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« on: May 18, 2012, 04:07 AM »

Presenting the MFTB!



There have been a few systainer worktop designs in the past but i found them to be be either too limited or too simple to actually be useful.
So i set on designing a wooden worktop that also functions as a systainer/toolbox. And the result is the MFTB.

It's a wooden toolbox that locks to either classic or T-loc systainers equipped with an MFT-type top with lots of clamping abilities.
I initially designed this as a workbench, but from testing a prototype in real life conditions it seems that the most useful part is the storing space inside.
It's incredibly handy to have all the stuff you need in a box at a comfortable height next to you.
By example when installing doors i put all the little parts and hardware for the lock and knobs in there next to me, and took it along as i moved from door to door.
What also happened was that at the end of the day i had to distribute back all the tools that had been placed in there by fellow workers, simply because it's so convenient.
the holes in the top allow you to drop all the little stuff like bits or drill and small hardware in there, and not lose them and put em back where they belong at the end of the day.

During the testing period i didn't take it with me on one occasion, and i regretted doing that because i had to trim some stuff with no table or work surface around.
From now on it's always at the top of my stack, it's weight is almost neglect able and it can carry more weight than my arms can. I can also jump on it without it breaking.

I initially thought i would share plans, but designing, testing and building this took way longer than i expected. And the only way for me to go through with it was to ask a small fee for the plans. I am finishing a 25 plus page instruction manual with pictures, plans and details that i will sell to anyone interested.
for myself i made a sys1,2 and 4 version, the 4 version is intended to be used as a portable router/jigsaw table that i will finish later on.

Web page with link to purchase here.

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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2012, 10:22 AM »

great job. when i first looked at the first pic i only thought you made the top piece and not the grey box part. that is how good it looks.

im definetly interested in plans  etc.
definetly like the top opening. other designs waste that space.
being able to open it with something clamped i good too
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2012, 10:39 AM »

Well done
love the design
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2012, 11:10 AM »

Tim, looks real cool, whats the shipping cost to the Bury, USA?
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2012, 11:40 AM »

What's it made out of? Is it painted MDF?
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2012, 12:05 PM »

Super cool.  Go into production.  You'd sell'em
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2012, 01:11 PM »

Really cool, you should get "patent pending" otherwise festool might copy an awsome idea!

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2012, 01:20 PM »

Really cool, you should get "patent pending" otherwise festool might copy an awsome idea!

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They'll just surcharge him for using the T-Loc patent.... Big Grin
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2012, 03:05 PM »

AWESOME
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2012, 04:48 PM »

Thanks for the comments, those who want the plans can PM me, the plans are in metric but there are directions for those who use imperial.
they are directed towards building these in series, i actually built 8 at the time. It's made using plywood, mdf, pine and beechwood. i painted mine with duplicolor light gray, it's a near perfect match with systainer gray.
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2012, 05:00 PM »

Very nice! The label is a great finishing touch. I really like that you don't have  to remove the work / clamps to get into it.


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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2012, 05:06 PM »

Just looked at the additional pics.  I see you have pasrt of the clamping elements in the front of the  #ii size as well as a couple holes. Do those work out to hold pieces vertically?


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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2012, 05:25 PM »

Seth, i added a video, i hope that answers most questions!
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2012, 05:36 PM »

Wow - really well thought out.
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2012, 05:39 PM »

i actually built 8 at the time.

I agree with the others that you've made a good thing there. Instead of building 8, build 800 and start selling them. Smile Your tool box looks really good, as if it was made by Festool themselves. I think there could be a market for this, instead of just selling the plans only. I know I could have used this quite a few times when I was in the field.  

Just one question, the prongs that are meant for the classic systainer's latches, what material are they made of? They look like they're just wood, if so, they wouldn't hold up long.
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2012, 06:00 PM »

Just one question, the prongs that are meant for the classic systainer's latches, what material are they made of? They look like they're just wood, if so, they wouldn't hold up long.

The prongs are made of hardwood, beech in my case. I wouldn't worry about them breaking, they are also reinforced at the bottom because they are covered by the hardwood blocks underneath that are used to position the box on T-loc systainers.
I hung an insane amount of weight on my prototype expecting it to fail, but it never did, while the new design is even more reinforced.







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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2012, 11:19 PM »

great job. when i first looked at the first pic i only thought you made the top piece and not the grey box part. that is how good it looks.

This is what I thought as well.

Your MF-TB is impressive! I know that clamping ability would come in handy on every single job.

I'd like to see the router table version  Smile I'm picturing it will hook up to whatever CT it's sitting on.
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2012, 11:30 PM »

Very nice work! Very well thought out.

This would be a very nice product that if you could make it and sell it in the US I would be ordering today!

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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2012, 06:59 AM »

Excellent I keep seeing these types of systainer bench tops and keep thinking I need one, yours is the best yet well done.
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2012, 11:11 AM »

Nice , on first look thought you'd just added top to a systainer .
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2012, 12:42 PM »

Just received Tims plans. The only thing he could do more to help you, would be to fly to your town and build it himself. Lots of very helpful pics, templates, and text, but lots of pics. Seems like a tricky project but looks very rewarding and Tim covers all the details very well. I wont be able to get to this one for awhile, will post how it goes when i do. Nice Job, Tim.
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2012, 01:34 PM »

Awesome Job!
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2012, 05:03 PM »

Great desigh.  Just ordered the plans.

Curious which size you use most?  I'm thinking the Sys1 just for compactness but curious what you have found in your use of the three sizes.

Thanks!

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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2012, 05:36 PM »

Thanks Neil, so far i only used the sys1 prototype in the field. The sys2 version i made was a last minute decision when i was cutting out parts i though why not.
And i think it was a great decision. Depending on the job i think i will take either one, but you will see that the plans are optimized for serial work, so i suggest you make at least both versions, and why not a 4 version for when i come up with a router table/jigsaw update.
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2012, 11:39 PM »

Very impressive, please update this thread when you're ready to sell the plans to make these.  I can't promise I'll buy, but I'm interested.  Thanks.

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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2012, 02:04 AM »

I love the design, so cool, I have just purchased the plans, can't wait to build it.
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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2012, 02:28 AM »

Very impressive, please update this thread when you're ready to sell the plans to make these.  I can't promise I'll buy, but I'm interested.  Thanks.

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You can now get em here, i made a page on my site.

For those who build them make sure you let me know if theres anything not clear enough, and make sure you post the pics here or send me some. I would be delighted to add them on my site.
I'm also adding all the mail addresses to a mailing list so i can send any updates or upgrades like the router table extension when i finish it.
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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2012, 03:41 AM »

I've bought the plans and they are very good and detailed, with details of jigs to help build several of them if you require.
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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2012, 05:34 AM »

Very impressive, please update this thread when you're ready to sell the plans to make these.  I can't promise I'll buy, but I'm interested.  Thanks.

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You can now get em here, i made a page on my site.

For those who build them make sure you let me know if theres anything not clear enough, and make sure you post the pics here or send me some. I would be delighted to add them on my site.
I'm also adding all the mail addresses to a mailing list so i can send any updates or upgrades like the router table extension when i finish it.


Just PAYPALed you - don't know that I'll ever make one though ... just like your effort  Big Grin
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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2012, 07:46 AM »

Same as Kev! Ordered the plans. Love your creativity and hope to utilize your idea in various ways.
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