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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2012, 08:21 AM » |
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Ordered Plans! Love the MFTB! and +1 what Kev said!
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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2012, 08:33 AM » |
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I got mine -- very detailed, great job!
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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2012, 10:18 AM » |
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Hi Tim, Just ordered mine too. Keep up the inspiring work!
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2012, 12:59 PM » |
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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2012, 03:00 PM » |
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You guys in the US that ordered plans , how does it work with PP . I click the link Tim provides on his website but its in Euros . Will is convert on its own ? Does the price include shipping to the US ?
Thanks Jerry
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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2012, 03:01 PM » |
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You guys in the US that ordered plans , how does it work with PP . I click the link Tim provides on his website but its in Euros . Will is convert on its own ? Does the price include shipping to the US ?
Thanks Jerry
I assume it works like it does for us in the UK! It automatically converts it for me into pounds £7.50 or something I think it was JMB
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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2012, 03:03 PM » |
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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2012, 03:31 PM » |
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Paypal automatically converts. Got my plans, very detailed!! 
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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2012, 09:04 PM » |
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Gonna get started on building these once I'm back in the shop, really looking forward to your jigsaw/router table update!!! That is gonna be handy as heck!!
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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2012, 05:44 AM » |
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You guys in the US that ordered plans , how does it work with PP . I click the link Tim provides on his website but its in Euros . Will is convert on its own ? Does the price include shipping to the US ?
Thanks Jerry
Yes, PayPal automatically converts the transactions. The exchange rate varies but it's about: 1 U.S. Dollar = 0.764006 Euros. The plans cost me $11.78 USD. Tim transmits them over the internet almost instantly. You can then save & print them.
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« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2012, 06:36 AM » |
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It sounds so much more in dollars, the annoying thing is that paypal almost takes a 10% fee  not to mention the local 54% income tax! btw, should anyone not get their plans sent within 12 hours then just mail me directly, i noticed paypal sometimes forget to notify me, thanks again!
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« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2012, 07:54 AM » |
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If people send you the money "as a gift" without you creating an invoice, there is no paypal fee.
Also, I leave the money received in local currency- not converted to my base currency- as I can always find something to buy with it later on in the same currency. Then you don't get hit with the currency exchange rate rip-off.
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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2012, 08:51 AM » |
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Tim,
If people send you the money "as a gift" without you creating an invoice, there is no paypal fee.
Also, I leave the money received in local currency- not converted to my base currency- as I can always find something to buy with it later on in the same currency. Then you don't get hit with the currency exchange rate rip-off.
Richard.
There is an option in PayPal transactions for the buyer to pay the exchange rate costs, which IMO is only fair for the buyer to cover (otherwise seller gets short-changed). Edited: Since I just purchased the plans... This option is not available apparently when using a purchase link from an e-commerce. It is possible to set this when simply sending money overseas.. (i.e as a gift)
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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2012, 11:46 AM » |
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Pay Pal sent Thank You Sal Theshipstore@msn.com
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« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2012, 07:36 AM » |
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Tim, please register as a charity - I could then make you tax deductible. 
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« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2012, 07:47 AM » |
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Just ordered my plans. I hope to build some soon.
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Kapex, Domino, HL 850, OF1400, MFK700, TS 55, PS 300, CXS, C15, MFT 800, MFT1080, MFT/3, CT 26, CT midi, DX93E, DX93 , DTS 400, RO 125, ETS 125, LR32 set, parallel guide, FS 3000/2, (2) FS 1400/2, FS 800/2, Syslite, tape measure, multi toolie, utility knife, safety glasses, stein, folding rule, head lamp, XL fleece, XL sweater,(2) XL t-shirt, XL long sleeve shirt, XL training shirt, XL polo shirt, beanie, hat, FOG cap, banner, anti fatigue floor mat. I got a blog, check it out! http://dustfreewoodworking.blogspot.com/
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« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2012, 05:48 PM » |
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Got mine brilliant thanks!  ; Love this site!!!! I should really post more but the amazing work by Tim, JMB, half inch, Brice, Kreg etc etc always makes me feel slightly inadequate  . However I'll post some pictures of the Van, workshop & of course projects shortly. Cheers all.
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« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2012, 06:02 PM » |
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Got mine brilliant thanks!  ; Love this site!!!! I should really post more but the amazing work by Tim, JMB, half inch, Brice, Kreg etc etc always makes me feel slightly inadequate  . However I'll post some pictures of the Van, workshop & of course projects shortly. Cheers all. welcome. to the fog. love the site too. great droup of members where are you based. cant wait to see the pics
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now ts 55+2 1400 rails+ 1 lr32 1400 rail, domino+assortment systainer+ domiplate, ct 22 with boom arm+home made thien baffel, lr32 set, rotex 150, home made MFT,home made work center, 6 t locs for other tools, of2000 , ro 90, mft 800, trion , ls 130 wish list of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2012, 09:36 PM » |
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Got mine brilliant thanks!  ; Love this site!!!! I should really post more but the amazing work by Tim, JMB, half inch, Brice, Kreg etc etc always makes me feel slightly inadequate  . However I'll post some pictures of the Van, workshop & of course projects shortly. Cheers all. welcome. to the fog. love the site too. great droup of members where are you based. cant wait to see the pics Not all of fall in to the "droup" group...Hmmmmm  Welcome to FOG... it really is mostly a good group of people... some do seem to be over achievers, LOL. Do update your info so we know were your from... it can be helpful if events are happening in your area..... Cheers, Steve
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"A Festool is a tool, Marian; much better than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A Festool is still only as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.” ~ Ode to Shane (the movie)
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« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2012, 02:25 AM » |
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Cheers Steve & Alan....... To be honest I could of listed the whole membership but thought that would be a bit odd! I did consider biging up everyone, but I didn't want to upset JMB  I'll start a new post with pics next week..
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« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2012, 02:53 AM » |
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i had a feeling you were on this side of the pond.
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now ts 55+2 1400 rails+ 1 lr32 1400 rail, domino+assortment systainer+ domiplate, ct 22 with boom arm+home made thien baffel, lr32 set, rotex 150, home made MFT,home made work center, 6 t locs for other tools, of2000 , ro 90, mft 800, trion , ls 130 wish list of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2012, 07:16 AM » |
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Awesome idea, ordered mine too.
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My Festool addiction fed currently by: Kapex 120, TS55R, DF500 & Domino accessories set, Rotex 125, ETS 150/3, DTS400, C12, Ti15 Impact Driver, Midi vac, Surefix Oiling/waxing Kit, OF1010 Router, Kapex 120 Wish List? Carvex420??, Belt sander with frame and planer with frame. Uncle Festool
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« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2012, 06:28 AM » |
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Anybody planned to make it their weekend project? I'm busy planning the router and jigsaw table top for it, hopefully i can get it built this weekend.
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« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2012, 06:31 AM » |
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Were you planning on doing the jigsaw tabletop version with a Carvex base-plate attachment like the CMS does or with generic clamping for any jigsaw?
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« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2012, 07:07 AM » |
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Were you planning on doing the jigsaw tabletop version with a Carvex base-plate attachment like the CMS does or with generic clamping for any jigsaw?
More like generic clamping, but especially designed for the carvex and of1010, but it can be adapted to your tools. I will simply route recesses under the top where the tool bases fit perfectly. I already figured out the ideal positioning so you have acces to the controls and still allow to open the lid with the tools attached. On the carvex i will put the guide rail base because it's a nice wide rectangle. And simply clamp them with toggle clamps. So no tools would be required to put them in and out.
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« Reply #55 on: May 25, 2012, 09:50 AM » |
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Were you planning on doing the jigsaw tabletop version with a Carvex base-plate attachment like the CMS does or with generic clamping for any jigsaw?
More like generic clamping, but especially designed for the carvex and of1010, but it can be adapted to your tools. I will simply route recesses under the top where the tool bases fit perfectly. I already figured out the ideal positioning so you have acces to the controls and still allow to open the lid with the tools attached. On the carvex i will put the guide rail base because it's a nice wide rectangle. And simply clamp them with toggle clamps. So no tools would be required to put them in and out. Post pictures when you can. Sounds like a great solution for many things. Cheers, Steve
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« Reply #56 on: May 25, 2012, 11:03 AM » |
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Just ordered the plans this morning. I expect I will make a handful as I cannot think of a better gift for my young gransons (and grandaughters). How cool to have a toolbox like gramps! They will have their first Festool related tool early in life, long before drinking the kool-aid.  I would urge anyone reading this thread to watch the video if they have not yet done so. One cannot appreciate the elegance and potential of this concept by looking at the pictures alone. Additionally, I think anyone who makes a facsimile without purchasing the plans should be ashamed of themselves. Without regard to the usefulness of the plans Tim's intellectual property alone is worth more than he is charging. Edited for spelling error
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« Reply #57 on: May 25, 2012, 12:40 PM » |
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Additionally, I think anyone who makes a facsimile without purchasing the plans should be ashamed of themselves. Without regard to the usefulness of the plans Tim's intellectual property alone is worth more than he is charging.
Greg, perhaps you have not seen previous postings of something like this on this board? There are at least 2 other people who already made something like this before. There's even a Dutch guy and member of this board, bror, who sells them on his website and eBay. FOG link.I full heartedly agree Tim's version is the best looking yet, but with all respect to his craftsmanship, that doesn't mean he's the one and only inventor all of a sudden. He's also a copycat, elaborating on an existing idea somebody else thought up first (and even patented). And it mainly looks so good because he decided to make it look exactly like the T-loc systainer, a Festool invention. Personally, I don't see any problem with that. But please, don't try to shame people into something. I'll be happy to make my own version whenever I need it. Perhaps I'll purchase some plans, perhaps not.
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« Reply #58 on: May 25, 2012, 01:59 PM » |
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Additionally, I think anyone who makes a facsimile without purchasing the plans should be ashamed of themselves. Without regard to the usefulness of the plans Tim's intellectual property alone is worth more than he is charging.
Greg, perhaps you have not seen previous postings of something like this on this board? There are at least 2 other people who already made something like this before. There's even a Dutch guy and member of this board, bror, who sells them on his website and eBay. FOG link.I full heartedly agree Tim's version is the best looking yet, but with all respect to his craftsmanship, that doesn't mean he's the one and only inventor all of a sudden. He's also a copycat, elaborating on an existing idea somebody else thought up first (and even patented). And it mainly looks so good because he decided to make it look exactly like the T-loc systainer, a Festool invention. Personally, I don't see any problem with that. But please, don't try to shame people into something. I'll be happy to make my own version whenever I need it. Perhaps I'll purchase some plans, perhaps not. i agree with you. nothing (physically or morraly) stoping some one making their own with out buying the plans. i bought them and am happy to reward tim for his work and make making it easier on me. i dont think the patent issue has a relivence to tims design. bror s version is only a table top. tims is a box and has a few improvment over brors version. i also own one of brors ones. its good but i want to make a few for other uses.
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now ts 55+2 1400 rails+ 1 lr32 1400 rail, domino+assortment systainer+ domiplate, ct 22 with boom arm+home made thien baffel, lr32 set, rotex 150, home made MFT,home made work center, 6 t locs for other tools, of2000 , ro 90, mft 800, trion , ls 130 wish list of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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« Reply #59 on: May 25, 2012, 05:12 PM » |
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Just ordered the plans this morning. I expect I will make a handful as I cannot think of a better gift for my young gransons (and grandaughters). How cool to have a toolbox like gramps! They will have their first Festool related tool early in life, long before drinking the kool-aid.  Hi Greg, i appreciate the compliments very much, though wouldn't go as far as saying people should not copy. I don't have anything against anyone copying this design or making something similar. In fact i made this based on a set of conditions it had to respect while not looking at existing designs, and the inevitable result is that there are strong resemblances with other boxes such as the patented systand. Simply because some things cannot be improved or made differently. Before releasing this i contacted the maker of the systand to see if was infringing on his patent (really nice guy by the way) and there were no problems. I also contacted Tanos to see if they had objections, and didn't get a response. Personally i'm not a buy plans kind of guy, i always think i can do better. but recently i bought Matthias Wandels tilting router lift plans and built it, partly because it was something complex and it made no sense going through the hassle of trying to copy it while you could buy the plans for a very reasonable price. But also because i respect what he does and i felt happy to support him. It's somewhat similar with the MFTB, i think anybody could make his own and it would inevitably resemble mine. But designing and figuring out details like the locking systems is rather complex and time consuming. So unless your time is worth less than a dollar an hour, then your better off just getting the plans. Which makes it worthwhile for me to spend time and effort in making them, and coming up with other things (which i have already  more about that tomorrow!)
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