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Offline TheSergeant

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2018, 02:11 PM »
THese are some great mods. The fact that they're necessary really frustrates me.  I've owned 3 MFTS, which all gone now, as I made an MFTC that is much, much better.  These mods also really highlight the major issues with the MFT3 and the need for a major redesign/upgrade.  $720 for something that you have to modify the heck out of is crazy.   I'm tempted to go off on a rant here but won't.   

Excellent work OP for adapting the system to suite your needs. 
« Last Edit: March 24, 2018, 02:13 PM by TheSergeant »

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Offline Mgildersleeve

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2018, 06:19 PM »
A great upgrade.  Nice work.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2018, 08:18 AM »
@TheSergeant   What mods do you think are necessary?

The MFT is a portable work table that facilitates using the tracksaw at a job site. No modifications are required for that.

Did you expect to use the MFT for a different purpose?

Offline cubevandude

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2018, 01:11 PM »
I really like this idea.  I do not have the Festool hinge for the track as I have a Makita.  Does anyone have an idea how to make a hinge to work with this if they do not have the Festool setup as shown?

I spent a little time on 8020 working up a hinge with a plate. After using the Festool plate and hinge I never ordered anything. You might consider ordering the parts from Festool parts catalogue.  I can’t seem to copy the link from my iPad but google Ekat Festool.  Lookunder Workplace organization then MFT3.

Do you think something like this would work?  15 Series Universal Standard Structural Pivot
https://8020.net/shop/4356.html
I see your pieces are 10 series though.

Offline Hal M

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2018, 01:16 PM »
I really like this idea.  I do not have the Festool hinge for the track as I have a Makita.  Does anyone have an idea how to make a hinge to work with this if they do not have the Festool setup as shown?

I spent a little time on 8020 working up a hinge with a plate. After using the Festool plate and hinge I never ordered anything. You might consider ordering the parts from Festool parts catalogue.  I can’t seem to copy the link from my iPad but google Ekat Festool.  Lookunder Workplace organization then MFT3.

Do you think something like this would work?  15 Series Universal Standard Structural Pivot
https://8020.net/shop/4356.html
I see your pieces are 10 series though.

I am happy to reach out to my 8020 salesman and ask him for an idea for the hinge if you would like this week.  I used the 10 series because I was trying to minimize space.

Offline cubevandude

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2018, 01:30 PM »
I would appreciate that.  I do see these are available in 10 series also.  A plate on the top with a way to attach the track and it might work.
10 Series Universal Structural Pivot Nub, Part Number: 4186
10 Series “L” Structural Pivot Arm, Part Number: 4149

Here it is assembled:
10 Series Universal Standard Structural Pivot, Part Number: 4156
https://8020.net/4156.html
« Last Edit: March 25, 2018, 01:56 PM by cubevandude »

Offline Sean KS

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2018, 10:41 PM »
I think this pivot would be an option as well.

https://8020.net/shop/14011.html

It would allow you to attach and hinge the Festool rail without any further modifications.

The one thing I don’t know is the height from the top of the linear bearing to the top of the MFT. The pivot I’m recommending  could be too tall. Not sure, and I don’t have an actual MFT to check? It’s just shy of 2in tall when the Festool rail is lowered for a cut.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2018, 10:46 PM by Sean KS »

Offline Hal M

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2018, 06:58 AM »
I think this pivot would be an option as well.

https://8020.net/shop/14011.html

It would allow you to attach and hinge the Festool rail without any further modifications.

The one thing I don’t know is the height from the top of the linear bearing to the top of the MFT. The pivot I’m recommending  could be too tall. Not sure, and I don’t have an actual MFT to check? It’s just shy of 2in tall when the Festool rail is lowered for a cut.

I actually considered that hinge.  My concern was getting more than one connection to the rail so it had a better chance of keeping the rail square. I also thought the wider profile would help it stay square in the vertical plane in the bearing. After using it for a while it may make no difference. I will ask my sales rep today if he is working.

Offline Jig

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2018, 05:28 PM »
Hal M:  Thanks for thinking this up as I am ready for this modification to my MFT table.  I had forgotten just where this tread was and looked for ever!  You can only imagine my frustration of searching the FOG high and low..........!!

Thanks for sharing all your efforts! 8)

Jig

Offline John1102

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2018, 06:12 PM »
Great idea!  8020 parts are great!

Offline tmm286

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2018, 12:03 AM »
If you have the CNC file you should Contact the guys at Vonmod - http://vonmod.com/ .  They have a huge CNC for a modest fee I'm sure they would crank one our for you in a material of your choosing.

I work for a GC in Denver and contract them frequently for custom work.  I recently picked up an MFT and it's already my plan to ask them to make me a new top when mine wears out as I don't feel it's worth my time to do it myself. 

Offline cubevandude

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2018, 08:31 AM »
I was wondering if anyone has made this out of the 8020 aluminum instead of using the festool hinge?  I ended up going with the UJK Technology Dog Rail Clips and Veritas SS Parf dogs for my Makita saw and Slab top.
I don't have any easy access to 8020.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2018, 08:35 AM by cubevandude »

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Re: MFT 3 ideas for small shop
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2018, 08:33 AM »
If you have the CNC file you should Contact the guys at Vonmod - http://vonmod.com/ .  They have a huge CNC for a modest fee I'm sure they would crank one our for you in a material of your choosing.

This has been covered in other posts .. but just in case you don't have the .dxf files, you can get them via TSO Products for free.  TSO offers files for several different sizes of tops, while Seneca woodworking only has the MFT3 replacement top file.  Good luck.

Seneca woodworking MFT file

TSO Products MFT files