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« on: February 18, 2011, 03:25 PM »

Hi,

After lurking on this forum for a couple off months the time has come for my first post/question.

My name is Oscar van de Leur, I live in Eindhoven in the Netherlands and I am an fanatic do-it-yourself-er continuously improving our house.
I started my trip down the green slippery slope when I purchased a DTS400 a year ago. And the angle of the slope only increased when I discovered the FOG.

So far your enthusiasm for the green stuff has cost me a TS55, a CTL26, a professional cleaning set, 2 T-Loc Box's to hold screws, a T-Loc II to hold my hammer drill, an MFT/3 replacement top, a Qwas Super Pack, a couple of Adjustable Bench Dogs from Toolimprovements and a Festool fence.  

And I thank you for that! My projects have become a lot more enjoyable.

So far I have turned my B&D Workmate into a semi-MFT:


And using that I am creating a Systainer storage cabinet utilizing the otherwise wasted space above the boiler of our solar heating system:


My next project will be to design and build a MFT/3 systainer/CTL26 port similar to the one that Steve Row created and the one (reply #14) that jonny round boy has designed.

But as I do not own a MFT/3 yet (I am planning to buy the profiles and corner brackets as parts from my local dealer when funds permit  Grin) I need the help of a MFT/3 owner.
I would like to start building the systainer/CTL port and use it temporarily with the top I now have on the Workmate. I want to put the space below the top to good use and I need wheels! I am done with lifting the MFT-top and Workmate each time I need to move it.

Would someone please be so kind to flip their MFT/3 over and measure the length and width between the edges of the corner brackets?
I am going to mount it like Steve Row and need to know how big the top surface of my systainer port needs to be to properly support the MFT (I want the corner brackets to just fall over the edge of the top surface).

Thanks very much in advance!
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 04:44 PM »

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(I am planning to buy the profiles and corner brackets as parts from my local dealer when funds permit  Grin)
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You might want to check the prices of all the parts you will need before ordering.  You may be better off by simply ordering a MFT/3 and removing the legs.

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 04:53 PM »

Would someone please be so kind to flip their MFT/3 over and measure the length and width between the edges of the corner brackets?
I am going to mount it like Steve Row and need to know how big the top surface of my systainer port needs to be to properly support the MFT (I want the corner brackets to just fall over the edge of the top surface).


I asked Steve the same question (I don't have an MFT3 yet either). His reply with the dimensions is here in the thread you linked to.

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(I am planning to buy the profiles and corner brackets as parts from my local dealer when funds permit  Grin)
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You might want to check the prices of all the parts you will need before ordering.  You may be better off by simply ordering a MFT/3 and removing the legs.


It all depends on whether you want the rail hardware, or if you're going to do it with bench dogs. I looked into it last year. The UK prices on EKAT for the corner pieces, edge profiles, nuts & bolts and a top, were less than half the price of a complete MFT3. Plus, he already has the top...
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 05:05 PM »

 Doh! And I thought I had thoroughly read that topic!

Thanks!

I also looked into the EKAT and for the profiles, corner pieces and screws and nuts I will have to pay about 310 Euros. A complete MFT/3 will cost me 685 Euros in Holland.
I am indeed going to use it with the Qwas and Toolimprovement dogs ( I really love them; they are so flexible!) so I don't need the rail hardware. 

And now that I have the dimensions I need I will get started on the build!
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 05:22 PM »

I've just uploaded my (unfinished) design to the SketchUp 3D Warehouse so you can have a look at it/alter it/build it etc.

To reduce the file size, I've removed the systainer models, but if you want those too they're all in my Festool Power Tools Model Collection.

The MFT/3 model was done by another FOGger, ehuss. I've been told it's accurate, but I based the cabinet top on Steve's dimensions.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2011, 10:31 AM »

Thanks.

Impressive drawing! I wish I was that good with SketchUp.
Very nice to be able to look at it close-up and from all sides.

Mine will look very similar but will house my CTL26 and two columns of Systainers.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2011, 11:03 AM »

Now that is a nice design Johnny.  I hadn't thought about making a recess on the end to hang items.  Another option would be to have a recess on both ends to hang clamps and the sort instead of using the vertical shelf pullout that I used.

Oscar and Johnny - please post pictures when you have completed your projects. 
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 06:22 PM »

The excellent model Jonny Round Boy created has inspired me to have a go at SketchUp and it turned out to be less complicated then I expected.
Thanks Jonny! It's really helpful to be able to model something this way before I start cutting wood.

I took your model apart and created a model of my own mobile base.
I included a couple of Systainers to give you an idea of the layout, the big empty bay will house my CTL26.
For my actual base I want to use Footmaster GD-40F wheels, these will stabilize the table and bring the top at the same height as a standard MFT/3.

This is a snapshot of the front:



And this is a snapshot of the rear:



I still have to cut some holes in the CTL26 bay so the exhaust air is not obstructed.

The 1080mm guide rails below the table is there just for fun, I created it based on Jonny's 800mm guide rail.
(I was not able to alter the label on the rails so it still shows it to be an 800mm rail  Embarassed)
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2011, 07:52 PM »

The 1080mm guide rails below the table is there just for fun, I created it based on Jonny's 800mm guide rail.
(I was not able to alter the label on the rails so it still shows it to be an 800mm rail  Embarassed)


Glad I've inspired you to try SketchUp - it's very easy to use once you get into it.

And here's a little present for your efforts. Big Grin
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2011, 06:01 PM »

Thanks, I'm honored!

Now that the label is correct I have moved the guide rail to the top of the table in full view.  Wink

Hope to buy some key pieces of wood tomorrow so I can start the build.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2011, 06:27 PM »

Hi Oscar,
It was nice to see your workmate setup and shop area. Nice "Sysport" built in the wall there. Be sure to post some pictures showing the build process for your mobile base.
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