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Offline John Beauchamp

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #270 on: January 18, 2015, 10:07 PM »
My MFTC is almost done, still have to decide about systainers or drawers. I set it up for systainers but I only have 4 and they are for tools that won't go out on jobs most of the time. I followed Tim's instructions as close as possible (great instructions) but had to make a couple small mods as I couldn't find the exact parts he used. I will probably use this one as a prototype and give it away when I build another one. Now that I know the relationship between the parts It will be easier to change a couple things. Like others I was tempted to go 3/4" on the top but since Tim has been using it for awhile I figured he would have changed it if it didn't work. Until I use it I won't know if I want it bigger or heavier. Still don't know what the drawers or systainers will weigh when added and filled. I have about $100 in the metal things and maybe $40 in wood. I had all the wood laying here in leftovers so don't really know exact price. I got the wheels at Harbor freight  $7.50,  slides at CS Hardware $9 and the t-track at peachtree $55.  I will post pictures when I get the drawers in. If you build one I suggest having all the hardware in hand before starting so you can modify as needed without re-doing something.
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Online Scorpion

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MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #271 on: January 20, 2015, 09:21 PM »
Can someone show a pic of the "drawer" bottoms? Are you routing/cutting out provisions for the feet for the T-Loc style? What keeps the systainers from sliding forward?
« Last Edit: January 20, 2015, 11:25 PM by Scorpion »

Offline John Beauchamp

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #272 on: January 22, 2015, 09:57 PM »
There are four rectangular holes that match the feet on the systainers.  It's all in Tims plans  well worth the money.  (About $10)
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Offline Mitchewd

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #273 on: January 22, 2015, 10:12 PM »
Pretty simple, really.  Tim's plans are spot-on and worth the buy.  There are 50 pages of detailed drawings and step-by step instructions.


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« Reply #274 on: January 22, 2015, 10:28 PM »
There are four rectangular holes that match the feet on the systainers.  It's all in Tims plans  well worth the money.  (About $10)

My curiosity led me to ask the question. 

I've probably read this thread a dozen times and inspected everyone's work in it twice that.  I've enjoyed his website too. Very impressive. Plans ordered, I'm building one!

On more question? Was the MFTC XL ever completed?
« Last Edit: January 23, 2015, 08:53 AM by Scorpion »

Offline Francis_Beland

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #275 on: January 28, 2015, 10:33 AM »
Here's my version of the MFTC. I didn't need to exit my basement so I put small caster wheels. Since my "workshop" is 6' X 6', I needed something really small when not needed. It's made exclusively out of baltic birch. Somebody from another woodworking forum CNC'd me the top with a t-track slot so I can put a fence (see third picture). I still need to do the finish (I'm open to suggestions), add slides for more systainers and add the shelf underneath to put tools.







Offline Mitchewd

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #276 on: January 31, 2015, 10:19 PM »
Excellent work!  That looks very clean; try a plain Danish oil for finish.  A couple coats will give it a warm glow and still be a workable surface.

Offline grawil

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #277 on: February 17, 2015, 11:41 PM »
Does anyone know of a source for a good set of leveling feet? I cannot find anything like what the plans describe from my usual sources in Canada.

Offline carrera4s

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #278 on: February 18, 2015, 05:02 AM »
Does anyone know of a source for a good set of leveling feet? I cannot find anything like what the plans describe from my usual sources in Canada.

I also could not find any feet, so I simply used 4 x M20 bolts and nuts.  I drilled a 22mm hole into the bottom of the feet and then carefully freehand routed a recess for the nut and glued it into place.  The bolt new simply screw up and down in the nut.

Offline Alan m

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #279 on: February 18, 2015, 06:19 AM »
wow 6'x6' is very small. I assume you only store the tools in there.
you must have some nice storage ideas
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Offline grawil

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #280 on: February 19, 2015, 07:42 AM »
My only concern with using bolts is with scratching floors. I would need to cover these with rubber or plastic as well.

Offline carrera4s

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #281 on: February 19, 2015, 07:46 AM »
My only concern with using bolts is with scratching floors. I would need to cover these with rubber or plastic as well.

Correct.  I am using mine only in the garage at this stage so it does not bother me, but I did get some square plastic "cups" that is used for furniture feet to prevent scratching.  Unfortunately I could not find hexagonal cups.

But an even better solution would be a soft rubber covering.

Offline downtheroad

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #282 on: February 19, 2015, 07:50 AM »
My only concern with using bolts is with scratching floors. I would need to cover these with rubber or plastic as well.

You could use adjustable furniture glides
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Offline bobdny

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #283 on: February 26, 2015, 01:49 PM »
For adjustable feet, I used plastic leveler glides from Rockler http://www.rockler.com/plastic-leveler-glides screwed into 5/16" threaded inserts http://www.rockler.com/steel-threaded-inserts-select-size

Since I use thes plastic leveler glides for a lot of projects where I need adjustable feet, I also bought the 5/16" installation tool for the threaded inserts http://www.rockler.com/power-drive-threaded-insert-tool-power-drive-threaded-insert-tool


Offline grbmds

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #284 on: February 26, 2015, 02:00 PM »
For adjustable feet, I used plastic leveler glides from Rockler http://www.rockler.com/plastic-leveler-glides screwed into 5/16" threaded inserts http://www.rockler.com/steel-threaded-inserts-select-size

Since I use thes plastic leveler glides for a lot of projects where I need adjustable feet, I also bought the 5/16" installation tool for the threaded inserts http://www.rockler.com/power-drive-threaded-insert-tool-power-drive-threaded-insert-tool

Are these glides adjustable from underneath? Do they have a weight rating? (I couldn't find a weight limit on Rockler's site.)

I am looking for adjustable feet to install in a planned cabinet on which I would set my MFT. The cabinet would have completely retractable casters (Rockler) and could be lowered onto its "feet" to plant it solidly in place. However the cabinet would have drawers and other storage for some of my Festools in systainers, so I imagine the weight would be significant.
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Offline bobdny

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #285 on: February 26, 2015, 02:27 PM »
For adjustable feet, I used plastic leveler glides from Rockler http://www.rockler.com/plastic-leveler-glides screwed into 5/16" threaded inserts http://www.rockler.com/steel-threaded-inserts-select-size

Since I use thes plastic leveler glides for a lot of projects where I need adjustable feet, I also bought the 5/16" installation tool for the threaded inserts http://www.rockler.com/power-drive-threaded-insert-tool-power-drive-threaded-insert-tool

Are these glides adjustable from underneath? Do they have a weight rating? (I couldn't find a weight limit on Rockler's site.)

I am looking for adjustable feet to install in a planned cabinet on which I would set my MFT. The cabinet would have completely retractable casters (Rockler) and could be lowered onto its "feet" to plant it solidly in place. However the cabinet would have drawers and other storage for some of my Festools in systainers, so I imagine the weight would be significant.

Imagine using a 5/16" bolt for a foot. To adjust it you simply screw it in or out. These glides are just like that, except they have a round plastic end instead of a bolt head. I don't know what their weight rating would be, but I use them for a lot of things, some of which I stand on (I weigh about 250 lbs.)
If I was really concerned about holding up a very, very heavy cabinet, I would use these Heavy Duty Glides from Lee Valley: http://www.leevalley.com/US/Hardware/page.aspx?p=71902&cat=3,40993,41283&ap=1 (they are rated at 330 lb. per glide)

Offline grbmds

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #286 on: February 26, 2015, 04:19 PM »
For adjustable feet, I used plastic leveler glides from Rockler http://www.rockler.com/plastic-leveler-glides screwed into 5/16" threaded inserts http://www.rockler.com/steel-threaded-inserts-select-size

Since I use thes plastic leveler glides for a lot of projects where I need adjustable feet, I also bought the 5/16" installation tool for the threaded inserts http://www.rockler.com/power-drive-threaded-insert-tool-power-drive-threaded-insert-tool

Seems like those woudl be a good option since I could mount them on the outside of the cabinet near each corner and they would be more easily reachable for adjustment. I assume the Rockler version are meant to be installed underneath in each corner.
Are these glides adjustable from underneath? Do they have a weight rating? (I couldn't find a weight limit on Rockler's site.)

I am looking for adjustable feet to install in a planned cabinet on which I would set my MFT. The cabinet would have completely retractable casters (Rockler) and could be lowered onto its "feet" to plant it solidly in place. However the cabinet would have drawers and other storage for some of my Festools in systainers, so I imagine the weight would be significant.

Imagine using a 5/16" bolt for a foot. To adjust it you simply screw it in or out. These glides are just like that, except they have a round plastic end instead of a bolt head. I don't know what their weight rating would be, but I use them for a lot of things, some of which I stand on (I weigh about 250 lbs.)
If I was really concerned about holding up a very, very heavy cabinet, I would use these Heavy Duty Glides from Lee Valley: http://www.leevalley.com/US/Hardware/page.aspx?p=71902&cat=3,40993,41283&ap=1 (they are rated at 330 lb. per glide)
Randy

Offline bobdny

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #287 on: March 07, 2015, 09:41 AM »
I think this MFTC portable workshop is a perfect design! I purchased the plans and started to build one last year, but had to stop in the middle to get back to other projects and responsibilities. I had some drawer slides for it, but I just ordered some "Touch and Release" drawer slides for it based on the recommendations made in this thread. I plan to get back to it and finish it soon! Meanwhile, you can get a glimpse of my partially completed MFTC at the end of this short video: (It is just behind, and to the right of my Kapex at the very end of the video)

Offline Baremeg55

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #288 on: March 07, 2015, 10:03 AM »
Bob, nice little video!!! 

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #289 on: March 07, 2015, 01:52 PM »
<snip>you can get a glimpse of my partially completed MFTC at the end of this short video...

Great production, but I don't recognize anybody in the credits...

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Offline Greg M

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #290 on: March 07, 2015, 02:44 PM »
I found this thread a few days ago and ordered my plans today.  Just waiting for them to show up so I can make my shopping list!  I'll also have to reread this thread to find out what parts and suppliers people are using.

I haven't seen the plans yet but has anyone used the sys drawers?  Seems to me that those would save a little bit of weight.

Offline Greg M

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #291 on: March 25, 2015, 08:27 PM »
Here's some parts that I found at a very good price.

T-track
http://www.orangealuminum.com/t-slot-framing-systems-and-tracks/t-track.html

I just got some of this track and Festool clamps do work with it.  I bought extra track because it was cheap and shipping costs didn't change much.
6 - 4ft pieces shipped from coast to coast for $58.63

Slides
http://www.custommaker.net/fineslide/store/product_info.php?cPath=56_63&products_id=351

These 14" push to open full extension slides work very well.  I just installed them and I'm pleased with how they work.  I can't tell you how they hold up over time but they look well made.

Offline carlb40

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #292 on: April 25, 2015, 06:13 AM »
Hi Tim i thought i would post this in here.  It looks like an ebay seller is selling what looks like your plans of the MFT cart as his own.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Festool-MFT-Homemade-Cart-/221739552772?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item33a0b51004

Also a warning to any other members who find it on ebay.
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Offline c_dwyer

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #293 on: April 25, 2015, 07:52 AM »
The chap was even nice enough to include a picture of himself via the reflection in the computer screen. Well done indeed…..

Offline SittingElf

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #294 on: April 25, 2015, 07:57 AM »
I'm glad this thread came back up...even just to report nefarious copyright ripoff (Like Ted's Woodworking Plans)

I had forgotten about this build, and had lost the brain cells that were supposed to make me remember to get the plans....and so to offset the ebay ripoff, I just ordered and received the combo plans from Tim's site....LEGALLY! AWESOME Plans and Instructions!

Thanks Tim! [big grin]

Cheers,

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Offline socaljohn

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #295 on: April 25, 2015, 08:04 AM »
I clicked the "ask the seller a question" link but it doesn't show up on the public ebay page.
Others may want to remind this guy that he's busted too.

This is what I asked him:

Dear zacluvin76,

Aren't these plans stolen from Tim Wilmots who spent a year optimizing the design?

http://www.benchworks.be/mftc.html

????????????

Offline SittingElf

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #296 on: April 25, 2015, 08:19 AM »
I just reported copyright violation to eBay. The listing is also on the USA eBay site:

MFTC eBay USA

Tim should follow up and screw this dude. The amount of woodworking plan ripoffs is getting really really bad. The "Ted's Woodworking Plans" ripoff is still showing up on many sites and YouTube all the time. All of us should proactively go after these rips and support those who have put the pain and effort into producing the originals.

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Offline GarryMartin

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #297 on: April 25, 2015, 08:51 AM »
I just reported copyright violation to eBay. The listing is also on the USA eBay site:

I've done the same and encourage others to do so too. Shocking violation of Tim's intellectual property.
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Offline Davej

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #298 on: April 25, 2015, 09:06 AM »
I just reported copyright violation to eBay. The listing is also on the USA eBay site:


Just reported it as well . little sh*t.
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I've done the same and encourage others to do so too. Shocking violation of Tim's intellectual property.
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Offline Davej

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Re: MFTC portable workshop
« Reply #299 on: April 25, 2015, 01:09 PM »
I messaged the seller and got a reply saying he hadn't stolen the plans (  I never accused him of theft just said they were very similar to Tim's) and as he had made some minor modifications to suit his needs he seems to regard them as his . If not theft then it's blatant plagiarism.
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