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Offline MarkoSharko

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Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« on: April 19, 2015, 08:02 PM »
Hi,

I designed a moxon vise specifically for the MFT/3.  The vise uses table connector hardware so the back (fixed) jaw can be slipped on or off quickly.  You can go to the URL below has both the instructions and the SketchUp file used in construction of the vise.

    http://www.seasholes.com/Projects_Plans_Page.html

Attached here are just the instructions and two photos (that can also be found in the  PDF).  Hope people can find this useful.

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Offline suds

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2015, 08:54 AM »
I've got a 1080 and have been thinking about doing the same with my Moxon.  How much did your Moxon end up weighing?  Have you thought about holes in the top of the Moxon?
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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2015, 05:01 PM »
Thanks Marko, this is just what I've been designing myself (albeit with a lot more complicated attachment system) -> need to try this out this summer.
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Offline MarkoSharko

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2015, 03:43 AM »
Hi. For the weight ... Don't know exactly ... It's at least 10 lbs

What is the more complicated attachment system?  Please describe if possible.

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2015, 01:32 PM »
Well, I was planning on routing this V-groove profile in solid wood which would act as the rear jaw and have a similar groove-locking mechanism on it as drafted in the sketch below:

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Offline MarkoSharko

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2015, 09:43 AM »
Thanks for the picture of the routed groove.  Very nice.  It is a nice touch.  You have managed to do what I was thinking about.  Turns out, with the horizontal clamping force, the vertical forces are not too much.  Also, adding the connector bar as I did helps a lot.

I like the drawing a lot and find it very helpful!

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2015, 09:47 AM »
Two more thoughts about the routed groove in the fixed (rear) jaw of a Moxon vise.  I'm very happy that the top of my vise is level with the top of the MFT.  This allows me to keep the vise on all the time and still cut wood with my track saw.

Also, one needs room behind the fixed jaw to attach the hardware.  I made the rear jaw very thick and then sunk the hardware inside.  The drawing above presumably has the hardware out the back and above the table.  Keep these points in mind as the hardware is not small.


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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2015, 05:25 PM »
If you are making your own set up with the Moxon, this video despite being in German has great ideas. 

Offline Slider613

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2017, 06:08 PM »
Bumping this one up to the top, wish someone would make a commercially available kit with a Moxon Vice for the MFT, I would Certainly buy one.

Just having some trouble visualizing this project, would be nice if someone wanted to document the making of one with a video.

I'm serious BTW, if someone wants to make one for me, I'd be glad to pay them.
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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2017, 06:51 PM »
I did not know about this thread and built a far less than perfect prototype vice which I described in this video from about the 2 minute 55 second point:



I am currently working on a far simpler idea which uses a pair of clamps rather than the vice threads.

Peter


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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2017, 07:14 PM »
Marko it looks great, well done.

Slider
Just my opinion but don't count out making a typical Moxon to set on top the bench. Making it is half the fun and being able to move it to another bench to use or to set it aside is very handy. 

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2017, 07:50 PM »
Would love to see your upcoming project. I might end up doing something similar to your vise, I just thought it would be very nice to have something that I could always leave on my MFT/3

I did not know about this thread and built a far less than perfect prototype vice which I described in this video from about the 2 minute 55 second point:



I am currently working on a far simpler idea which uses a pair of clamps rather than the vice threads.

Peter
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Offline Slider613

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2017, 07:51 PM »
You are probably right, might just do that.

Marko it looks great, well done.

Slider
Just my opinion but don't count out making a typical Moxon to set on top the bench. Making it is half the fun and being able to move it to another bench to use or to set it aside is very handy.
TS 75 EQ, Router 1400 OF, Carvex PS420 EQB, Rotex 90 and 125, ETS 150/3, Domino DF 500 + Kit, CXS Drill set, T18 Drill Set, MFT/3, Rails 75" and 2x 55" with Connector and Case, Compact Cleaning Kit, Sys 4 TLsort/3, CT 48 with 27mm and 36mm anti static hose, Sys MFT-FX set.

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2017, 07:54 PM »
@Slider613

It might be 3 weeks away depending on other tasks. I will create a thread here on the FOG for it when it is done.

Peter

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2017, 08:18 PM »
@Slider613

It might be 3 weeks away depending on other tasks. I will create a thread here on the FOG for it when it is done.

Peter

I'll definitely hold off till then. Looking forward.
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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2017, 01:17 AM »

I'll definitely hold off till then. Looking forward.

... no pressure then !

My idea is very simple as I think that will make it easier to make, more useful (if it works) and not such a waste of time if it fails.

Peter

Offline suds

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2017, 11:00 PM »
i built one a couple of years ago and I love it.  I'm going to make a similar one for my "outside" worktable made out of pallets.  I use it for so many tasks and while the mounting of mine isn't exactly what I want I can't imagine being without it.  I'm a little concerned about the weight and mounting it to the side slots on my 1080.  I know one member had his mounted along the side rails but he had a cabinet supporting the weight.  I used fairly heavy Oak and between that and the hardware it is pretty hefty.  I put a lip on the back of it and simply clamp it to the MFT 1080.  Paul Marcel had a interesting version and build video of his Moxon Vise and David Barron has some good additions I am going to put on mine.
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Offline MarkoSharko

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2017, 05:10 PM »
Hi All,

Just checked back and read all the comments.  I agree with Slider613 that there is a trade-off here.  A "benchtop" vise has the advantage that it can be moved around to other counters and table tops.  My "MFT vise" has the advantage that it is level with the top of the MFT/3 and still allows use of large projects with the track saw and other items.

Thank you to Peter Parfitt for sharing his video as well as to "rst" for sharing the German video.

Finally, the only problem I'm having with my Moxon vise comes from the MFT/3 design.  The table rocks and moves more than a solid woodworkers bench.  So, my vise is fine for handcutting dovetails, but less good when it comes to planing.

Best,

Mark

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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2017, 01:47 AM »

Finally, the only problem I'm having with my Moxon vise comes from the MFT/3 design.  The table rocks and moves more than a solid woodworkers bench.  So, my vise is fine for handcutting dovetails, but less good when it comes to planing.
From the pictures on the top of this post, it doesn't seem that you added the MFT-3QT cross members to your MFT. I found that they DO add SOME stability and are helping with hand planing... Every little bit helps, I guess. I like that the MFT is still able to be collapsed and moved after you add the cross members.
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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2017, 03:54 AM »
Since making the rather awkward double screw vice above I made another that was much simpler to make and uses a pair of Festool (other makes are available) clamps:



Dave Stanton has taken the concept further and built something similar for his "Stanton Bench":



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Re: Moxon Vise Specifically for the MFT/3
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2017, 05:23 AM »
Thanks for the mention @Peter . The racking issue isn't really a problem if deeper sections are held by the vise. For holding small pieces as you showed I guess low profile dogs on the top of the bench would be the easiest way to secure them. There will be many variations of this kind of vise for years to come and each will have its pluses and minuses.   [cool]
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