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Offline thlambermont

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2017, 12:09 PM »
Hello everybody,

I'm new on the forum ! I'm looking for a way to use my domino XL nn finer thicknesses and I really like your prototype.
I made a fast prototype to change "clips". What do you think about it? I use the same process design as the LA-DF 500/700.

Here for exemple I used a wooden piece of 12mm. This way I can center the domino on a 16mm mdf board.

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Offline thlambermont

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2017, 03:26 AM »
It should be improved (a lot) but you can see what I had got in mind. We could imagine to put two tracks below with some screw holes (like LA-DF 500/700) and use it on smaller pieces. I'm going to look for a 3d printer near me and test it.

Offline sebcbien

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2017, 12:45 PM »
Hello @thlambermont
Please open a new topic for your project. Mixing two different projects in the same thread will confuse readers.
Thanks.

« Last Edit: October 12, 2017, 12:50 PM by sebcbien »

Offline sebcbien

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2017, 12:50 PM »
Hello everyone,
I've now sold some pieces of my prototype and the woodworkers are very happy with them.
Below is one plate being printed (+- 7 hours)



Offline thlambermont

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2017, 12:51 PM »
@sebcbien It's exactly the same tool, I copy the one you created and change the fixation system. But if your prototype works very well with the current fixation I would like to order one  [big grin] Thank you

Offline sebcbien

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2017, 02:38 PM »
Ok, didn't get that, sorry. :-[
This design has some good points, but as disadvantages, I see those:

- one is that it will take more place on the fence and then reduce the "agility" of the machine to go in small places
- An other one, is that I think that the plastic would "bend" lighty with the pressure of the arms of the clamping system, the plastic used by festool is harder and made under pressure, it's not the case with the ABS used by 3D printers.
- About the clamps, they are metal and I cannot make them.
Seb

Offline sylthecru

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2017, 03:14 PM »
Do you plan to release the .stl files or make the shims out of aluminum? I am interested in the .stl files as I have a 3d printer

Here is a video of my prototype of thickness adapter for the Festool DOMINO XL.

This solution solves two problems of the domishim.

I show you the use of the prototype for stock of 12 and 22 milimeters

The final product will have three plates to cover all common stock thickness:
Plate 1:  12 -22 mm
Plate 2:  9 - 18 -38 mm
Plate 3:  15 - 25 mm
It's easy to make also plate for imperial measurements. 1/2" 3/4" ...

It's only a prototype and I have still work to do to have the final product.

So please give your advice below and say if you would be interested by the final product.

Here is the video:


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Offline sebcbien

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2017, 03:32 PM »
Hi sylthecru,

Building my prototype required to print between 15 and 20 plates and it's impossible to count how many hours and days it took me to design it.
As well as I'm someone who shares A LOT on internet (and in the real world [laughing] ), takes time and appreciate to help others, for this work, I will not release it because it tooks me more than time, I've invested in a good 3D printer (3000€) and the cost of printing the prototypes is not cheap (3D printing is usually 10€ per hour, and it's between 4 and 9 hours to print a plate...)
Releasing the STL files means also that others will be able to sell the plates to people who don't own a 3D printer.
Hope you can understand,
Seb
« Last Edit: October 13, 2017, 04:19 PM by sebcbien »

Offline sylthecru

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2017, 09:28 AM »
I understand you are trying to recoup the cost of your investment. DO you have an idea of what the final adapter will cost? I am really interested.

Hi sylthecru,

Building my prototype required to print between 15 and 20 plates and it's impossible to count how many hours and days it took me to design it.
As well as I'm someone who shares A LOT on internet (and in the real world [laughing] ), takes time and appreciate to help others, for this work, I will not release it because it tooks me more than time, I've invested in a good 3D printer (3000€) and the cost of printing the prototypes is not cheap (3D printing is usually 10€ per hour, and it's between 4 and 9 hours to print a plate...)
Releasing the STL files means also that others will be able to sell the plates to people who don't own a 3D printer.
Hope you can understand,
Seb
TS55 REQ, Mini Dust Extractor, OF1400, DF500 Domino, MFT/3, LR32, RO125, Kapex, CT 36, CMS, Carvex

Offline sebcbien

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2017, 10:03 AM »
Hi,
The prices depend of the number of plates and the shipping costs.
The thickness of the plates also changes the price, the 7.5mm takes more time and materials than the 4mm.
As for the exact price, I'm not sure I can talk about it here...
So please mail me at: sjauquet (Gmail) or PM

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Offline Steven Owen

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2017, 01:48 PM »
Hi,
The prices depend of the number of plates and the shipping costs.
The thickness of the plates also changes the price, the 7.5mm takes more time and materials than the 4mm.
As for the exact price, I'm not sure I can talk about it here...
So please mail me at: sjauquet (Gmail) or PM

Envoyé de mon SM-N950F en utilisant Tapatalk

It looks cool.  Have you ever considered contacting Seneca to see if they will license your design to build this as a Domino accessory?

I think Seneca would be keen to develop your design.  They have the equipment to mass produce it with higher quality plastics.

Offline sebcbien

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2017, 04:25 PM »
Hi Steven,
I didn't contact Seneca, maybe later, maybe it's a good idea.

@sylthecru , I forgot to answer about the aluminium, the current design uses the flexibility of the plastic (ABS) to stick to the fence. Doing it in aluminium would require another design with no major advantages.

Seb

Offline Steven Owen

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Re: New Domino XL Thickness adapter project
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2017, 04:06 PM »
Hi Steven,
I didn't contact Seneca, maybe later, maybe it's a good idea.

@sylthecru , I forgot to answer about the aluminium, the current design uses the flexibility of the plastic (ABS) to stick to the fence. Doing it in aluminium would require another design with no major advantages.

Seb

You’ll have to get a couple of prototypes working that you can send to Seneca.  With international distribution, you’ll probably make more money selling or licensing your design to Seneca that you would trying to 3-D print them on your own.