Introducing Ryan’s SYS-Stacker Inserts: Router Bit StorageNo Longer Accepting Pre-Orders -- See Order Instructions at Bottom of Post
- 01-20-2017: Received approval from Festool/FOG to use their likeness - TylerC is even in for a pre-order!
- 01-21-2017: Updated this post with pre-order cutoff date, and more clarity on pricing (shipped CONUS)
- 01-25-2017: New production update posted at bottom of thread
- 01-27-2017: Added note about new 8mm euro shank option in the FAQ section
- 02-03-2017: Sent out Paypal invoices to all who pre-ordered; if you didn't receive an email, it's either because (a) I don't have your email or (b) it's stuck in your spam filter
- 02-09-2017: Making a small design change, increasing the thickness of each deck by 5mm (to 30mm) to increase the recess of each hole and provide more stability for your router bits - this change won't impact bit headroom or cost
- 03-13-2017: Prototyping is complete, but design changes and new tooling will push out the delivery ETA (see full post)
I’m happy to report that I’ve refined my original router bit insert design
, and am now going to produce these inserts in volume for fellow interested FOGgers! If you’ve got a spare Systainer and a respectable collection of router bits, I’m willing to bet you’re going to want one… or more! Without further ado:
So, what makes these inserts so cool?
- Mix and match to fit your specific T-LOC Systainer, from SYS1 to SYS5: two deck configurations, and three different “riser kits.” (For optimal configurations to fit your Systainer, see bottom of post.)
- A dual-shank hole design means you can insert your 1/2" and 1/4" router bits into the same hole! (Option available for 8mm bits as well -- see FAQ below for details.)
- Each deck is stackable, making it easy to quickly access your bits, no matter how far down you put them.
- Each deck is made from 25mm thick Baltic birch plywood, coated with a top layer of finish color-matched to Festool’s official RAL 6018 yellow/green.
- Incredible capacity: closed decks hold more than 200 bits, and open decks hold over 170 bits--limited only by the cutting diameter of your bits.
- Cut with CNC precision, so every piece fits perfectly.
- Ships flat-packed (to save on shipping costs), with easier-than-IKEA assembly and screws included.
- Have I mentioned the FOG logo on the handle? :-)
Let's discuss the decks: open or closed?
A closed deck is best for maximizing the router bit capacity, is ideal for smaller Systainers (SYS 1 and SYS2), and also works well as a lower or bottom deck on larger Systainers (SYS3 and up). The open deck serves as a perfect top-level for larger Systainers, and with this open design, you can store particularly tall bits in this area without having to worry about headroom.
What kit is best for my particular Systainer?
See below for my recommended kit, guaranteed to fit. (Note that I have not tested fitment on Systainer Classics; just the T-LOCs.) I've also added the total price (shipped CONUS) here, for maximum clarity.SYS 1 T-LOC Systainer – Recommended Configuration – $32 Shipped CONUS
Closed deck, small handle, plugs instead of risers. This configuration will accommodate router bits ranging from 70 to 80 mm in total length. SYS 2 T-LOC Systainer – Recommended Configuration – $32 Shipped CONUS
Closed deck, large handle, plugs instead of risers. This configuration will accommodate router bits ranging from 120 to 130 mm in total length. If you’ve got a router bit longer than that, I’d love to see it.SYS 3 T-LOC Systainer – Recommended Configuration – $61 Shipped CONUS
The preferred Systainer for this insert. One closed deck with medium handle and risers, one open deck with small handle and plugs instead of risers. This configuration will accommodate router bits ranging from 68 to 96 mm in total length, and the “open area” will accommodate bits larger than that. SYS 4 T-LOC Systainer – Recommended Configuration – $90 Shipped CONUS
Two closed decks with medium handle and risers, one open deck with small handle and plugs instead of risers. This configuration will accommodate router bits up to 96 mm long under the covered portions, and any bits longer than that can be stored in the open area. SYS 5 T-LOC Systainer – Recommended Configuration – $119 Shipped CONUS
Three closed decks, with small, medium, and large handles and risers. One open deck, with small handle and plugs instead of risers. This will fit any router bit you can dream up. Lots of ‘em.
I’ve tried to make it as simple as possible: $25 per deck (open or closed), with no additional cost for the handles, risers or plugs. Add $7 for shipping in CONUS (please add $4 to ship each additional deck). Clearly, this isn’t a money-making endeavor--just having some fun and covering material costs. Baltic birch (in 25mm thickness) is not cheap, nor is the General Finishes Pigmented Poly I'll likely be using for the topcoat. Only top quality for you, my friend. How to Order!
It's passed the pre-order date, so I'm not taking any orders at the moment. Focused on production right now. I will be making a few spares of each size, so do PM me if you're interested in ordering after production ends. I'll keep a log and fulfill these orders on a first-come-first-serve basis.When will you be producing these beauties?
My current plan is mid-March. I'll be accepting pre-orders up until February 24.I'm interested, but need shipping outside the continental United States. Can you still do that?
Sure, just note that shipping will be more expensive. Shoot me your address and I'll get a quote back to you. (Note that I'm just a dude, not a huge corporation, so I don't have great negotiated shipping rates. I'm just going to be passing my shipping charge on to you.)Can you provide a variant with 8mm and 12mm holes?
Yes: Send me a PM and note that you would like the 8mm euro option, and if you're ordering a multi-deck insert, be sure to specify to which deck it applies. Note that the only design change here is boring out the 1/4" holes to accommodate your 8mm bits; if you have 12mm bits, that's close enough to half-inch that no design change is necessary.Will you be making more decks like this?
I'll consider it, if the interest is there and the need is universal enough. Send me your ideas!Special thanks to epicxt for motivating me to finish this one...