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Offline Mgildersleeve

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Transportable System
« on: January 07, 2018, 09:56 PM »


I got into Festool a couple months ago when I got a lead shop job making products for high end homes and needed to install the products on site. I consigned my shop tools to buy the Festool. Still developing this system, but it’s working out pretty well. I also use it in the shop to make cross cuts, sanding, etc.. Same as everybody. But, it packs up and transports well.  My fence gains a few inches over the Festool fence and is much easier to set up, for me anyway.  Hopefully the designers and builders will be impressed. If there’s any interest I can draw up plans. There’s a preview of an overhead milling kind of thing I’m not done with.

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Offline neilc

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2018, 10:36 PM »
First, welcome to FOG!

That's setup is fantastic!  So many great ideas, and portable to boot!

The rifle laser is a killer idea!

Thanks for sharing!  Would love to see plans!

We look forward to seeing some of your commercial work!

neil

Offline Wooden Skye

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2018, 11:55 PM »
Great setup and unique ideas!
Bryan

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Offline mackenzie

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2018, 04:28 AM »
@Mgildersleeve brilliant, lots of custom jigs and fixtures, well done.

Can you do another video please so we can see the hardware used to slide into the T slots and the locking thingy on your MFT fence where you screw the 2 knobs down onto the MFT surface securing the fence, if that makes sense?

Really liking this one, please continue to develop your ideas and share them.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2018, 05:28 AM »
Very nice. Makes a great portable or semi-fixed work station. Wish I had room in my small basement shop for something like this. Maybe I can incorporate some of your excellent ideas and jigs though.

Question on the drop-down saw shelf. Did you consider making it so the shelf is to the inside under the MFT top and not protruding out front? I have been positioning the Systainer for my TSC55 under the MFT and using the top as a place to park my saw between cuts, but you shelf would be a better choice.
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Offline UncleJoe

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2018, 08:58 AM »
Looks great. A lot of very good ideas and execution. Could you show some detail on the leveling system for hte table tops?
I am not young enough to know everything!

Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2018, 10:39 AM »
THAT is what I call real stable genius!
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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2018, 10:48 AM »
An excellent system, @Mgildersleeve.  Very well done.  I'm looking forward to your improvements.   [smile]
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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2018, 11:17 AM »
that is a well thought out system.it truly is both a shop and site work shop. well done

Offline Cheese

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2018, 11:30 AM »
Very nice...my favorites are the recessed panel that ties the LH cabinet to the MFT, the rifle laser, the rail height shim for the router and the adjustable surface heights for the LH & RH cabinets.  [thumbs up]

Offline Svar

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 12:04 PM »
The rifle laser is a killer idea!
Wouldn't it be simpler to have a pointer on the router attachment and a measuring tape attached directly to the guide rail? It's hard to read a bright red spot several mm in diameter.

Offline mike_aa

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 12:59 PM »
Wow, you've got some great ideas and designs!  I like the way you lock the systainers into the drawers.  That's an idea that can also be used to make a DIY Sys-Cart.

Thanks for the inspiration!

Mike A.

Offline Mgildersleeve

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2018, 05:16 PM »
Thank you everybody. This project doesn’t seem like it will ever be finished. I don’t know if work benches ever are, though.

Wooden Skye - Yes, I will post some detail pics of this stuff this week. It was a lot to shoot. I have another recent post about my MFT jig that shows the expanding “bench anchors” as Lee Valley calls them. These keep the hole system fences in place. Instead of the Lee Valley type, I made my own for a more specific purpose. I rounded over some 1.5” long 3/4” dowels, then put a bullnose groove around the shaft right where the fence meets the table, so right in the middle. That allows the dowel some relief to hinge and expand on the ends. Then, I drilled a countersunk 1/4” hole in the middle. Then, I used a dovetail saw to cut the end of the dowel into eight slices up to the relief groove.  I used a countersink head machine screw to act as the wedge. Knob on the other end to tighten. I drilled a 3/4” hole in a 2x4 and put the dowel in it to use as a miter. Twisted it an 1/8 turn four times until I had the eight slices. Lee Valley’s bench anchors only expand in one direction. These expand in eight, so self centering. There is an issue of the bolt wanting to spin sometimes, but it seemed to work better after it was broke in.  I am trying to talk the wood shop that CNC’d the MFT template for me to make and sell the templates. If so, I will make the anchor pegs used in it. The template is 4’x4’. To extend that beyond 4’ in a given direction the template needs to move and be aligned. I use these to realign them.

As far as the ripping guides, I’ll have to show in pictures. It’s just a thin piece of oak that sits in the t track and a t bolt, though.

Bob D - Yes, I considered putting the saw tray on the right, as I’ve seen others do. I’m a lefty, though, and this feels better for my work flow.

Uncle Joe - Yes, I’ll take some detail pics of the case tops. It is essentially a t nut underneath to hold a 3/8” set screw. Under that I screwed in a wood screw with a magnet as a washer to use as a hard seat in the case itself, magnetized because magnets are cool.

I use 3/8” set screws and 1/4” socket cap screws as they both use the same Allen head driver, 3/16” I believe. It’s whatever Incra uses on their stuff. I love Incra products and just want to have one tool that works on everything in the shop.

Svar - Yes, it could easily prove to be more effective to attach a measure to the fence. I’ll have to figure out an easy way to register the fence to the hinge plate in that case. Either way,  the laser was something I thought of one night when I couldn’t sleep. Saw it was only $11 and wanted to try it. The laser is another thing to have to keep square, though. I just want to play around with an easy to mount laser for a bit.

Thank you everybody else. This has been a fun project. But, it started off as just the cases and the rolling bases. It keeps evolving and nickeling and dining me to no end. This is my first experience with a hole system, though. I love the functionality of hole systems. I want to get the router milling aspect operational soon, because I want to start making an assembly system with it. I am blessed with a great boss that wants me to rebuild and streamline his shop. If anybody has any links for assembly jigs, I’d love the information. I see tons of youtubes of people showing off their freshly built assembly tables, but I haven’t seen anybody use them. I don’t see why a large MFT’d assembly table can’t assemble carcasses, face frames, or whatever. That’s what I’ve been mentally tinkering around with lately. Speedy dynamic set up, speed assembly, perfect squareness. To be honest, this is my first real cabinet making job. I’ve built props in the entertainment industry and done residential finishing work mostly.  Lots of furniture for fun.  So, production cabinet assembly is new to me. I’m sure there’s tons of speed tricks, though. And, I’d love any help with this. It’s a small shop. So, making everything as dynamic as possible is the goal.





Offline Mismarked

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2018, 08:49 PM »
This entire setup is truly remarkable.  Thanks for sharing. 

Offline SoonerFan

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2018, 09:07 PM »
@mgildersleeve that is fantastic work.  Many great ideas.  As you mentioned, projects like this are never really done but at least you have come far enough to have something extremely useful.

Nice work.  Thanks for sharing.


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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2018, 10:13 PM »
Very nicely done!!!!  The folding saw shelf is slick.  The carts are a nice take on a systainer only sysport.  Seems to me the open drawers would be very handy!
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Offline jtwood

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2018, 11:01 PM »
A very functional and creative system.  I'd love to see plans.
I'm going to be moving to a new place where I'll need to take down the MFT and accessories when not in use, so something like this would be terrific for me.

Steve

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2018, 08:11 AM »
Not seeing the video today, did you remove it from your first post?
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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2018, 08:26 AM »
@Bob D. , just as an FYI the video is still visible to me on my browser.

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Offline mrB

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2018, 08:30 AM »
Wow! That is a really great set up. Very impressed.
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

Offline Bob D.

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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2018, 09:03 AM »
Yes, I could see it yesterday but today on the same computer using the same browser it's gone. But if I go to Chrome it is there so it's something on my end. I'll figure it out.
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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2018, 01:20 PM »
Very clever and well done! Makes me glad I never have to work mobile so I dont have to worry about coming up with neat, mobile, compact ideas like these!
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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2018, 02:01 PM »
@Mgildersleeve  - my hat's off to you for this demonstration of creative problem solution AND execution! a "TEN" !
Your video with title explanation is the icing on this cake - well done.

Please share more of your approach to work on the FOG

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2018, 10:02 PM »
Thank you for all the nice the feed back. I’m trying to post some detail pics of what some people have asked about. I don’t see how to attach more than one file. Can anybody please recommend the suggested path for posting pics?


Offline Bob D.

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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2018, 10:41 PM »
right below the "Attachments and other options" click on (more attachments)
« Last Edit: January 10, 2018, 08:46 AM by Bob D. »
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Offline Gregor

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2018, 07:35 AM »
Very nice build!

Offline eddomak

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2018, 08:00 PM »
That's a fantastic build! Although I am in a garage workshop, I was aiming to have most things mobile anyway, so will hopefully utilise some of these ideas. Thanks for sharing.

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« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2018, 09:04 PM »
You should be a lifetime member of Mensa! :)
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Offline Mgildersleeve

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2018, 04:12 PM »
Here’s some detail pics of a self centering, expanding dowel and a guide rail clamping stop. I keep forgetting to take a picture of the fence.

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Re: Transportable System
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2018, 04:17 PM »
Also, there’s a picture of the pass through fence stop. There’s a piece of grit tape, the kind used on exterior steps, on the back of the stop for extra holding power.