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Offline tjbnwi

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VAC SYS on MFT 3
« on: May 25, 2016, 12:17 AM »
I'll start by thanking @Untidy Shop for posting the link to the Conturo manual that contains the MFT "brackets". @erock for the inspiration on hanging the pump off the MFT, and from what I understand @Rick Christopherson for the foot valve "holder".

I used the VAC SYS everyday, issue was set up and take down. I have this thing about putting items away. When I'm spraying I'll cover the system.

The MFT is set up to be an indeed table for my CMS.

I used drop off plywood from a set of shelves I'm fabricating for a pantry cabinet. I did ream the baseplate holes to 17/64" to accept 1/4" bolts.

Backplates for the "heads", doubled 3/4" plywood, 1/4-20 threaded inserts with shoulder. I do not have stock metric threaded inserts. This plywood was sanded with the RO 125-80 grit Granat rotex mode only prior to spraying 2 coats of SW KA+ BRE. 244530-0

2-1/2" long bolts were the proper length to mount the "heads".244532-1

The "bracket" for the pump. 244534-2244536-3244538-4244540-5

I chose to hang the pump under the MFT instead of it projecting outside the MFT. 244542-6

5/16-18x1.25" with tri-wing hand nut to retain the pump bracket. 244544-7

Both bolt assemblies installed and tightened. 244546-8244548-9

Close up of the bolt slot and v-groove insert.244550-10

Pump in its new home. 244552-11244554-12

The three items on the MFT. The head plates are retained by 5/16-18x2.25" bolts with tri-wing nuts. 244556-13244558-14

Nutserts and 5 stem bumpers installed on the bottom of the foot valve holder. 244560-15

With the pump under the MFT I used a remote control on the system.244562-16

What I would change---

The heads sit about 1/2" above the MFT surface. I used the specs in the manual, I would prefer if the heads were flush when loaded with the MFT surface.

I may change the foot valve plywood to 1/8" aluminum. I'll remove the leg bore and mount it on the aluminum plate. this will prevent the plate from sliding out from underneath the leg.

Tom



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Offline GarryMartin

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2016, 03:29 AM »
Very nice. I like that the pump swings under the MFT.

I'll have to take a closer look at my VAC SYS (the Systainer version here in the UK) to see whether one of the @Rick Christopherson MAXSYS modules would physically fit anywhere as a remote would be a great option to have when looking to keep the VAC SYS itself out of the way and not taking up physical work space.

Offline Kev

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2016, 04:15 AM »
This is exactly why I'm looking at the idea of making a dedicated narrow double VAC-SYS station.

Offline erock

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2016, 08:11 AM »
Nice !   Putting the pump under the table.     [doh] [not worthy]  I may have to modify my bracket now.  I'll have to check and see if the Fastcap remote will work for the pump.   Thanks for posting Tom !

Eric

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2016, 11:56 AM »
Very nice. I like that the pump swings under the MFT.

I'll have to take a closer look at my VAC SYS (the Systainer version here in the UK) to see whether one of the @Rick Christopherson MAXSYS modules would physically fit anywhere as a remote would be a great option to have when looking to keep the VAC SYS itself out of the way and not taking up physical work space.

I think it should be able to fit in front of the pump. Otherwise you could notch out the styrofoam back by the filter.



Tapping into the wiring will be a little tougher though. I haven't opened the switch enclosure, so I don't know how easy the connections will be.


Offline GarryMartin

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2016, 12:46 PM »
I forgot you already had the Systainer version Rick  [doh]

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2016, 12:53 PM »
I forgot you already had the Systainer version Rick  [doh]

Probably the easiest solution would be to take a plug-it cord, cut it in half, and put a Maxsys in the middle.

Offline GarryMartin

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2016, 01:17 PM »
Probably the easiest solution would be to take a plug-it cord, cut it in half, and put a Maxsys in the middle.

That would be quite interesting; an in-line MAXSYS. That would also work for multiple other tools like the CTL SYS etc. Hmmmm...

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2016, 07:18 PM »
Nice !   Putting the pump under the table.     [doh] [not worthy]  I may have to modify my bracket now.  I'll have to check and see if the Fastcap remote will work for the pump.   Thanks for posting Tom !

Eric

@erock

Thank you for the inspiration.

No reason it shouldn't work,  I run my Q4 turbine off an RCV.

Seeing as this was for me/the shop, I don't have a problem taking pictures or shooting video. When it comes to my jobs I dont' take the time to photo or video while I'm working . Breaking the rhythm of the job can be make it drag out.

Tom


Offline erock

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2016, 07:49 PM »
Nice !   Putting the pump under the table.     [doh] [not worthy]  I may have to modify my bracket now.  I'll have to check and see if the Fastcap remote will work for the pump.   Thanks for posting Tom !

Eric

@erock

Thank you for the inspiration.

No reason it shouldn't work,  I run my Q4 turbine off an RCV.

Seeing as this was for me/the shop, I don't have a problem taking pictures or shooting video. When it comes to my jobs I dont' take the time to photo or video while I'm working . Breaking the rhythm of the job can be make it drag out.

Tom

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 Trust me.....I know this all too well !    Especially when I've got 3 cameras in the shop and I'm trying to get all fancy with some of the shots.       I think I do more video work than actual woodworking.    But it's all fun.

Eric

Offline Flatsawn

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2016, 10:02 PM »
Is the remote to shut off the vac system otherwise you must unplug it from the wall?

Mark

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2016, 10:12 PM »
Is the remote to shut off the vac system otherwise you must unplug it from the wall?

Mark

There is a switch on the pump. With the pump hung under the MFT, it's not real easy to get to the switch.

Tom

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2016, 10:14 PM »
Nice !   Putting the pump under the table.     [doh] [not worthy]  I may have to modify my bracket now.  I'll have to check and see if the Fastcap remote will work for the pump.   Thanks for posting Tom !

Eric

@erock

Thank you for the inspiration.

No reason it shouldn't work,  I run my Q4 turbine off an RCV.

Seeing as this was for me/the shop, I don't have a problem taking pictures or shooting video. When it comes to my jobs I dont' take the time to photo or video while I'm working . Breaking the rhythm of the job can be make it drag out.

Tom

@tjbnwi
 Trust me.....I know this all too well !    Especially when I've got 3 cameras in the shop and I'm trying to get all fancy with some of the shots.       I think I do more video work than actual woodworking.    But it's all fun.

Eric

With me you get unedited photos and videos from my iPhone. Sometimes I don't watch the videos or look at the pictures before I upload them.

Tom

Offline Knight Woodworks

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2017, 09:40 AM »
My apologies for bumping an old thread. Want to thank Tom for sharing his Vac Sys set up. I recently purchased a Vac Sys and mounted it on my MFT. Tom's photos and write up were very helpfull.

John 

Offline Joe Church

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2017, 05:04 PM »
Very nice. Thanks   
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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2017, 08:27 PM »
My apologies for bumping an old thread. Want to thank Tom for sharing his Vac Sys set up. I recently purchased a Vac Sys and mounted it on my MFT. Tom's photos and write up were very helpfull.

John

Happy it helped you.

Thank you for the mention.

Tom

Offline Flatsawn

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2017, 10:24 PM »
Tom, As you mention about changes, did you lower the vac to meet with the top of the mft? If so, how could you turn a panel on the vac without knocking all the stuff sitting on the top of the mft? What do you see as a benefit other than extra support, if that's the point.



Mark

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2017, 04:04 PM »
Tom, As you mention about changes, did you lower the vac to meet with the top of the mft? If so, how could you turn a panel on the vac without knocking all the stuff sitting on the top of the mft? What do you see as a benefit other than extra support, if that's the point.



Mark

Never lowered it. Decided it was not a good idea.

Tom

Offline Flatsawn

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2017, 09:52 PM »

Tom,

Thanks for the reply. I just ordered one, not a great time because I'm getting a new heating and air conditioning system,  but I thought if I wait a few months that's not a good time either because I made my $50 card worthless as was mentioned in a different discussion.
 So in keeping with tradition I waited until the eleventh hour and clicked,  the ORDER tab. I do hope it's all everyone says about its benefits.
Thanks for the pics. I have copied your setup for the mounting of the system on the mft. That looks to be a good solution. I wish I could post pics I wasn't able to with my previous phone and was hoping this pixel would make it easy but I see with new technology comes more difficult procedures. I'm' just thankful that those who can, do, very helpful.

Mark

Offline Knight Woodworks

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2017, 10:41 PM »
I mounted mine flush with the MFT for additional support, very happy with the location.

John

Offline rst

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Re: VAC SYS on MFT 3
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2017, 07:18 AM »
 I used 8020 extrusions for legs that extend down the sides of my MFT.  The support arms are height adjustable, but I generally keep the height so that the vac is level with my table.
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