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Can someone throw in a few points I have not thought of?--part of me still wants to get this.

Hey @teocaf, the best part is that the sander is basically free.

Take the $99 price tag and subtract the $74 price of a Systainer 2, then subtract the price of a $44 Plug-it cord and you come up with a -$19 price tag. Who can't use an extra Systainer & extra Plug-it cord? Even if you never use the voucher...you're still ahead of the game. [popcorn] [popcorn]

Okay, you talked me into it.  I have an RO 125 in a classic systainer that I was going to buy a T-Loc for, so this comes with a spare cord and a spare sander.  I haven't used an ETS 125, but I just bought an ETS EC 125 for the shop last week, and I love it.  I was considering buying one for myself, but I'll go along with this.

Out of curiosity, @TylerC , is the PRO 5 German-made?

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Tempting for sure, but I have the previous version already. Not sure about the new hose connector, seems like it will be more of a mess.

@TylerC I do like the edge protector, anyone know if that one will fit the current model ?

May have to try it I guess.
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Out of curiosity, @TylerC , is the PRO 5 German-made?

@WastedP, yes, made in Germany.
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Is this u.s. Only haven't seen it for Canada yet.
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I did not really need this but it is just too good of deal to pass up, just ordered.
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Im happy to say that I ordered 2 because its too good to pass up. 
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I'm an easy sell, I ordered one.

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Out of curiosity, @TylerC , is the PRO 5 German-made?

Yes. The PRO 5 LTD is engineered and made in Germany.

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Is this u.s. Only haven't seen it for Canada yet.

It's available in the US and Canada.
$99 in the US.
$129 in Canada.

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Me too.  I sure feel like a sucker for buying an ETS 125 at full price years ago.  Is the PRO built to a lesser standard? I'll sure feel like a massive sucker if all the tools get discounted in a similar fashion.

Hey @Kodi Crescent ...don't feel like a sucker, you've used the sander for years and you've probably got your moneys worth out of it at this point.

What Festool is now embarking on is called market penetration. Festool is launching a huge effort to become a major player in the US tool market. This can be seen in their recent commitment to producing tools that have imperial markings rather than metric markings. Another aspect of it also pivots around them offering a loss leader to allow those folks that are on the fence, to purchase a Festool product and to experience the resultant Festool experience first hand.
If you offer a loss leader (think the new ETS 125) and it's a winner, thousands of product will be sold, but it's really not the product that they make a killing on, it's the disposables and future good will that is the target. Think about all of the pads, Systainers, Plug-its, dust collectors and abrasives that will be purchased for each new ETS 125 sold. [jawdrop]

It's really marketing 101 and they're off to a good start...now about those nasty Kapex problems... [poke] Festool...is there any body out there?

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Re: $99 PRO 5 Sander Promotion + $50 Voucher - New Festool REQ Sanders (US)
« Reply #100 on: October 04, 2016, 11:59 PM »
Thanks Shane, got one as well even though I already have the current model.

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« Reply #101 on: October 05, 2016, 12:11 AM »
Me too.  I sure feel like a sucker for buying an ETS 125 at full price years ago.  Is the PRO built to a lesser standard? I'll sure feel like a massive sucker if all the tools get discounted in a similar fashion.

Hey @Kodi Crescent ...don't feel like a sucker, you've used the sander for years and you've probably got your moneys worth out of it at this point.

What Festool is now embarking on is called market penetration. Festool is launching a huge effort to become a major player in the US tool market. This can be seen in their recent commitment to producing tools that have imperial markings rather than metric markings. Another aspect of it also pivots around them offering a loss leader to allow those folks that are on the fence, to purchase a Festool product and to experience the resultant Festool experience first hand.
If you offer a loss leader (think the new ETS 125) and it's a winner, thousands of product will be sold, but it's really not the product that they make a killing on, it's the disposables and future good will that is the target. Think about all of the pads, Systainers, Plug-its, dust collectors and abrasives that will be purchased for each new ETS 125 sold. [jawdrop]

It's really marketing 101 and they're off to a good start...now about those nasty Kapex problems... [poke] Festool...is there any body out there?

Ah, now it hits me that it's the Pro 5, as in 5" instead of the Pro 125 (mm).

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Re: $99 PRO 5 Sander Promotion + $50 Voucher - New Festool REQ Sanders (US)
« Reply #102 on: October 05, 2016, 12:54 AM »
Ordered!  Not sure why I need it yet, but I'm sure I'll find a use soon!

Small nit pick, but I don't think the video is in German!

Yeah, it's Dutch and even got Dutch subs??
Any of the US dealers ship to the EU, lol??
I have all the sanders except the 125 range, I really have no need for it but this deal is soooo sweeeet


Think you're correct, sounds Dutch/Flemish to me.


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Re: $99 PRO 5 Sander Promotion + $50 Voucher - New Festool REQ Sanders (US)
« Reply #103 on: October 05, 2016, 02:16 AM »
Are you guys going to have any of the new locking style tool ends for the vacuum hose for sale too ?

@antss, the new hose connector is included with this $99 sander. If you just want it separately, we have the bayonet-style connector available separately.


New hose connection compatibility with other currently owned sanders/tools:

Shane,

It is my understanding the new sander has the locking dust port connection, that will work in tandem with the included locking retrofit kit for current 27mm hoses.

Just a couple questions:

1) Will the included retrofit kit work on the tool end of the sleeved hose (which, if I am correct,  is tapered down to 22mm on the tool end)?

2) Since we will need to install the retrofit kit on our current hoses, in order to connect to the locking dust port on the sander, what happens if we switch to an older sander/tool (in my case, the RS 2E).  Will we need to revert the hose locking connection back to the standard fitting, just to use the existing "non-locking" dust ports?

*Please forgive me if I am missing an obvious answer or solution to this compatibility issue.  I have just not yet wrapped my head around switching to the new locking hose and dust ports Festool is beginning to release, and how it impacts existing hose and dust port connections.  It may very well be there is no conflict and I just don't see it yet.


**P.S.  Shane, to avoid any appearance of favoritism, I asked Bob these same questions on his thread.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2016, 02:38 AM by McNally Family »
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« Reply #104 on: October 05, 2016, 08:18 AM »
@McNally Family,

Good questions.

The retrofit connector included is for a 27mm hose. It will not work with a 22mm. Festool USA has not made the version for the 22mm hose available in the U.S. yet. 500668 is the part number, I believe.

The new style connector is backward compatible. So it will work with all of your tools that do not have the locking connector. It will just friction fit like the current connector on your hose.
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« Reply #105 on: October 05, 2016, 08:39 AM »
Is this u.s. Only haven't seen it for Canada yet.

It's available in the US and Canada.
$99 in the US.
$129 in Canada.

And only £280.80 ($357 US$) in the UK:

https://www.festool.co.uk/Products/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?pid=201238&name=Eccentric-sander-ETS-125-REQ-GB-240V 

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« Reply #106 on: October 05, 2016, 08:42 AM »
Festool USA has not made the version for the 22mm hose available in the U.S. yet. 500689 is the part number, I believe.

Hey Shane, the 22/27 version ia actually 500668.

https://www.festool.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/Detail.aspx?pid=500668&name=Hose-sleeves-D-27-22-DM-AS-CT

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« Reply #107 on: October 05, 2016, 10:27 AM »
How do those $50 coupons work?  They expire on dec 2017, can I use them anywhere that sells Festool or only at the same dealer we bought this sander from?
When we make a future purchase can we use a maximum of one coupon per order or can we use 5 coupons towards the single purchase and stack them?
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« Reply #108 on: October 05, 2016, 10:31 AM »
How do those $50 coupons work?  They expire on dec 2017, can I use them anywhere that sells Festool or only at the same dealer we bought this sander from?
When we make a future purchase can we use a maximum of one coupon per order or can we use 5 coupons towards the single purchase and stack them?

@ScoFF, good questions.

Vouchers are included in the sander Systainer. They expire on 12/31/2017. They can be used with any dealer (as long as it's the Tool Nut  [poke]). Seriously though, you can use it with any dealer. You cannot combine the vouchers on a single order. Nor can the voucher be used to purchase another PRO 5 sander. However, the voucher can be used in combination with a tool + vac/mft package deal.
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« Reply #109 on: October 05, 2016, 11:14 AM »
Voucher is only good for a tool purchase?

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« Reply #110 on: October 05, 2016, 11:15 AM »
Voucher is only good for a tool purchase?

Yes, correct. Tools only.
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« Reply #111 on: October 05, 2016, 11:20 AM »
@McNally Family,

Good questions.

The retrofit connector included is for a 27mm hose. It will not work with a 22mm. Festool USA has not made the version for the 22mm hose available in the U.S. yet. 500689 is the part number, I believe.

The new style connector is backward compatible. So it will work with all of your tools that do not have the locking connector. It will just friction fit like the current connector on your hose.

Thanks Shane,

If I understand you correctly, the hose retrofit kit, when used on a 27mm hose, is backward compatible with any older tool by using a "friction" connection, but not in a locking capacity.

For someone using the "sleeved hose", there will be a locking retrofit kit, but just not yet.

The new sander, having the locking dust port, can be used with a modified 27mm hose, but not with a sleeved hose then.

Is that correct?
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« Reply #112 on: October 05, 2016, 11:53 AM »
@McNally Family, yes, correct.

Hopefully, Festool USA will add the 22mm bayonet-style connector to their offerings soon for your sleeved hose. I will let the forum members know when that happens.
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« Reply #113 on: October 05, 2016, 12:20 PM »
 (Apologies if this was answered above). So how does this new connector on the new sander work with older hose? It just fits in friction style?


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« Reply #114 on: October 05, 2016, 12:31 PM »
(Apologies if this was answered above). So how does this new connector on the new sander work with older hose? It just fits in friction style?

@Christopher Fitch, yes, friction fit just like all other connectors.
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« Reply #115 on: October 05, 2016, 12:34 PM »
(Apologies if this was answered above). So how does this new connector on the new sander work with older hose? It just fits in friction style?

If I understand this correctly, based on Shane's earlier explanation, the sander will come with the required retrofit kit so you can use your existing 27mm hose with the new sander, after you modify your hose with the retrofit kit

Should you have a need to use a different tool with your modified 27mm hose, it will be backward compatible with older dust ports, but with friction only, and not the locking feature.   

I could be wrong, because this whole locking concept for both the tool dust port and hose modification is all brand new.  Plus, I am rather slow, so it may be I am just not grasping the entire concept.
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GREEN: In order of purchase = C18 5.2 Set w/Centrotec Installer's Set | CT26 w/Installer Cleaning Set | CT Wings | SYS-MFT | RS 2 E | Hose w/ Sleeve 3.5m | metric+imperial ZOBO bit sets | Centrotec Stubby Brad Point Bit Set 3-8mm |  HSS D3-10 CE/10x Metric Twist Drill Bit Set | 115mm X 226mm Hand Sanding Block | 80mm X 133mm Hand Sanding Block | HSK D21.5 5m hose | CT Boom Arm Bundle Set |  Won the CXS Li 2.6 90 Limited Edition on 06/20/2016 | Metric Parallel Guide Set | 1080 Plate for custom MFT | Clamping ElemenTS (1) | Quick Clamps For MFT (2) | Festool 300mm Screw Clamps set (1) | Festool 120mm Screw Clamps set (1) | Next  Purchase: Something else Metric |

RED: In order of purchase = Mafell P1cc w/tilting base | Complete range of Mafell blades | Collins Coping Foot |  F 160 (x1)+F 110 (x1)+F 80 (x1) w/Guide pocket, clamps & Connector (x1)  | Angle fence F-WA | Next Purchase :  TBD

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« Reply #116 on: October 05, 2016, 12:49 PM »
(Apologies if this was answered above). So how does this new connector on the new sander work with older hose? It just fits in friction style?

If I understand this correctly, based on Shane's earlier explanation, the sander will come with the required retrofit kit so you can use your existing 27mm hose with the new sander, after you modify your hose with the retrofit kit

Should you have a need to use a different tool with your modified 27mm hose, it will be backward compatible with older dust ports, but with friction only, and not the locking feature.   

I could be wrong, because this whole locking concept for both the tool dust port and hose modification is all brand new.  Plus, I am rather slow, so it may be I am just not grasping the entire concept.

This just in from another thread (a direct answer from Festool):

From Brent at Festool.

Just a couple questions:

1) Will the included retrofit kit work on the tool end of the sleeved hose (which, if I am correct,  is tapered down to 22mm on the tool end)? Yes.  The tool end of the hose is the same diameter even though the hose diameter is different.

2) Since we will need to install the retrofit kit on our current hoses, in order to connect to the locking dust port on the sander, what happens if we switch to an older sander/tool (in my case, the RS 2E).  Will we need to revert the hose locking connection back to the standard fitting, just to use the existing "non-locking" dust ports? No.  The new connector will work on all Festool tools old and new 


I think I am starting to understand all this......so, according to Festool, my sleeved hose will work with the retrofit kit (hose is tapered down to 22mm, not the hose connector).    There will be no compatibility issues and the new connector will work on all Festool tools, new and old (either friction or locking).

Guess I can stop worrying and go back to bed. 
GREEN: In order of purchase = C18 5.2 Set w/Centrotec Installer's Set | CT26 w/Installer Cleaning Set | CT Wings | SYS-MFT | RS 2 E | Hose w/ Sleeve 3.5m | metric+imperial ZOBO bit sets | Centrotec Stubby Brad Point Bit Set 3-8mm |  HSS D3-10 CE/10x Metric Twist Drill Bit Set | 115mm X 226mm Hand Sanding Block | 80mm X 133mm Hand Sanding Block | HSK D21.5 5m hose | CT Boom Arm Bundle Set |  Won the CXS Li 2.6 90 Limited Edition on 06/20/2016 | Metric Parallel Guide Set | 1080 Plate for custom MFT | Clamping ElemenTS (1) | Quick Clamps For MFT (2) | Festool 300mm Screw Clamps set (1) | Festool 120mm Screw Clamps set (1) | Next  Purchase: Something else Metric |

RED: In order of purchase = Mafell P1cc w/tilting base | Complete range of Mafell blades | Collins Coping Foot |  F 160 (x1)+F 110 (x1)+F 80 (x1) w/Guide pocket, clamps & Connector (x1)  | Angle fence F-WA | Next Purchase :  TBD

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« Reply #117 on: October 05, 2016, 01:06 PM »
We need @Phil Beckley to do a video on the new locking hose connectors.

Let me see if I can do a quick list of the permutations to explain.

Bayonet hose -> New tool with bayonet connector = Locking fit
Bayonet hose -> Old tool without bayonet connector = Friction fit
Old hose -> Old tool without bayonet connector = Friction fit
Old hose -> New tool with bayonet connector = Friction fit

The PRO 5 sander will come with the bayonet-style hose connector, which you can retrofit onto your 27mm hose. It's pretty simple to swap out, you'll just need a standard screwdriver or something you can use to depress a tab to release the connector.

Hopefully that helps.
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« Reply #118 on: October 05, 2016, 01:23 PM »

This just in from another thread (a direct answer from Festool):

From Brent at Festool.

Just a couple questions:

Yes.  The tool end of the hose is the same diameter even though the hose diameter is different.

Sorry to be the harbinger of bad news but the adapter will NOT fit sleeved hoses. The sleeved hose has a plastic retaining ring that clamps the cloth sleeve to the plastic end that screws in to the hose. It's visible in the first picture. The OD of the retaining ring is 1.66". The ID of the original fitting is 1.70", while the ID for the new bayonet fitting is 1.54".

The correct fitting for the 27/22 sleeved hose is 500668 and is presently NAINA. In post #113 Shane has already said that he will notify us when and if this fitting becomes available.

https://www.festool.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/Detail.aspx?pid=500668&name=Hose-sleeves-D-27-22-DM-AS-CT
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« Reply #119 on: October 05, 2016, 01:27 PM »
This just in from another thread (a direct answer from Festool):

From Brent at Festool.

Just a couple questions:

1) Will the included retrofit kit work on the tool end of the sleeved hose (which, if I am correct,  is tapered down to 22mm on the tool end)? Yes.  The tool end of the hose is the same diameter even though the hose diameter is different.

@Brent Shively can you just clarify that statement? I understood the retrofit kits are part number 500669 which is for standard 27mm hoses. For the 27/22 tapered, sleeved hose, my understanding was that part number 500668 was required as pictured below...

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