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Offline mark60

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #300 on: February 25, 2017, 08:33 PM »
My PE arrived yesterday and I put it to work today. Thanks TSO, and great job, this will be a very useful addition for me.

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #301 on: February 25, 2017, 08:57 PM »
our products work well because they are based on YOUR  input, -users in the field who know what is needed and share it with us. This connection with customers is one of the benefits of selling direct. We can take credit for actively "listening" and doing our best to integrate all the suggestions into beneficial product features.

One other ingredient that makes us tick is the expressions of appreciation we regularly receive  from customers - just scroll back through this thread and you'll see plenty of evidence.
thank you all for cheering us on!

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #302 on: February 27, 2017, 09:31 PM »
Fitting the latest GRS-16 PEs into Systainer Classic with a TS-55 does not work - but it does work with the current Systainer TL.
We wonder how many TS-55 users wish their older Systainer CLASSIC would accomodate our Guide Rail Square?

Comments anyone?
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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #303 on: February 28, 2017, 03:38 PM »
Would be nice, but what would the drawback be in the design ?

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #304 on: February 28, 2017, 08:44 PM »
Would be nice, but what would the drawback be in the design ?
@mwildt  - no drawback other than another very minor design change. But if there is no meaningful demand for the change, it would not pay us to go to the expense involved along with all the required  backup engineering documentation.

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #305 on: March 01, 2017, 12:18 AM »
I am (one of) the person who noticed the issue with a classic Systainer and I want to say that Hans at TSO has been nothing short of amazing in establishing a dialog about the issues involved. This is a proactive company. I had an original GRS-16PE (the two sided unit) which wouldn't fit in a systainer (this is well documented on their website) and was sent an updated, GRS-16PEs slightly shorter unit to try. It misses fitting in a classic with a track saw inside by about 1/8". I find the build quality and accuracy of the square to be impeccable and will continue to recommend it to others who might still be using a TS55 in an old style systainer.


Of course if you are using additional classic systainers to transport non-Festool items the square will fit in at a slight angle set on edge. You would need to verify the height required.


I am looking forward to the accessories being developed for the square.



Jim

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #306 on: March 01, 2017, 04:28 PM »
Hello all,

First post! w00t!

question about the GRS-16/PE:

1.  Could I use this to rip a parallel edge on lumber?  I'm a hybrid tool guy so I dimension my lumber using hand planes.  Once I get a reference edge, I would establish the length of the board using the GRS-16 as a guide to create a square cut.  Once I have a square 'end' then I would use that end to create a parallel edge from the reference edge.  Is this a good idea?

2.  What's the tolerance of the guide?  How much track span (I have a 75" and a 55" tracks I connect) before I start to go out of square? 

Thoughts?  Opinions? 

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #307 on: March 01, 2017, 04:57 PM »
Hello all,

First post! w00t!

question about the GRS-16/PE:

1.  Could I use this to rip a parallel edge on lumber?  I'm a hybrid tool guy so I dimension my lumber using hand planes.  Once I get a reference edge, I would establish the length of the board using the GRS-16 as a guide to create a square cut.  Once I have a square 'end' then I would use that end to create a parallel edge from the reference edge.  Is this a good idea?

2.  What's the tolerance of the guide?  How much track span (I have a 75" and a 55" tracks I connect) before I start to go out of square? 

Thoughts?  Opinions?

  Welcome to the forum!

I don't think that would be a good method to parallel rip a board. You would be using a very short reference (end of a board)       to square a  very long dimension. Lots of room for a very small error to become a very big error.

Seth

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #308 on: March 02, 2017, 12:33 PM »
  Welcome to the forum!

I don't think that would be a good method to parallel rip a board. You would be using a very short reference (end of a board)       to square a  very long dimension. Lots of room for a very small error to become a very big error.

Seth

Thanks for the reply and the welcome!  That's good to know, actually.  I guess I'll be using my tape measure and good old fashion elbow grease to do so.  :)

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #309 on: March 02, 2017, 01:52 PM »
  Welcome to the forum!

I don't think that would be a good method to parallel rip a board. You would be using a very short reference (end of a board)       to square a  very long dimension. Lots of room for a very small error to become a very big error.

Seth

Thanks for the reply and the welcome!  That's good to know, actually.  I guess I'll be using my tape measure and good old fashion elbow grease to do so.  :)

Or, you could make (or purchase) a parallel guide for your saw. Lots of info here on the forum on parallel guides...
Looks like your rabbit joint is a hare off! ;)

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #310 on: March 03, 2017, 03:53 PM »
I am (one of) the person who noticed the issue with a classic Systainer and I want to say that Hans at TSO has been nothing short of amazing in establishing a dialog about the issues involved. This is a proactive company. I had an original GRS-16PE (the two sided unit) which wouldn't fit in a systainer (this is well documented on their website) and was sent an updated, GRS-16PEs slightly shorter unit to try. It misses fitting in a classic with a track saw inside by about 1/8". I find the build quality and accuracy of the square to be impeccable and will continue to recommend it to others who might still be using a TS55 in an old style systainer.


Of course if you are using additional classic systainers to transport non-Festool items the square will fit in at a slight angle set on edge. You would need to verify the height required.


I am looking forward to the accessories being developed for the square.



Jim

Jim, you are lucky to have an updated version of the PE square. I jumped  and bought both when released to get promotional price. Now I see those prices are normal cost. In hindsight I should have waited as the updated version solves the storage issue and has the accessories fixing points which can be added to the older models. Nevermind, its a fantastic product that I am glad I have.

Jim could you take a pic of both older and newer version next to each other so I can see the differences including the size of each.

Tariq

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #311 on: March 03, 2017, 04:42 PM »
Tariq,


Sorry I can't, I sent the original back.


The two differences are the addition of 2 threaded holes (I believe there will be instructions posted for you to be able to add these yourself) and the reduction in length that is in the section of the square that goes under the track itself.


What I failed to notice but just checked out is that the unit will fit easily in the track transport bag. It is narrower than the rails themselves so if you are transporting rails to a job site just put the square in the bag.


Jim




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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #312 on: March 03, 2017, 04:48 PM »
  Welcome to the forum!

I don't think that would be a good method to parallel rip a board. You would be using a very short reference (end of a board)       to square a  very long dimension. Lots of room for a very small error to become a very big error.

Seth

Thanks for the reply and the welcome!  That's good to know, actually.  I guess I'll be using my tape measure and good old fashion elbow grease to do so.  :)

Two accurate marks place the guide rail and cut. No need for much elbow grease  [smile]

Seth