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Offline tazprime38

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #90 on: July 17, 2016, 06:27 PM »
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Klemm, I have just placed my order for the square and will be getting the PE version when it becomes availble.  Please remember to include some spare screws as others have requested.

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #91 on: July 17, 2016, 07:27 PM »
Richard/RMW in your recent pic, what is the black piece at about the midpoint of your rail?

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #92 on: July 17, 2016, 09:36 PM »
Mike,
great picture and glad it works for you as expected. Thanks for the feedback. Would you give us permission to add your picture to our web page and credit Mike A. ?
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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #93 on: July 18, 2016, 04:06 AM »
In good weather I sometimes do my breaking down in my most spacious shop area (=wide open spaces) I cut just a little oversize and do my final sizing inside. With this new square, I can see once I have one straight edge, I could probably do all outside cutting to dimensions.
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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #94 on: July 18, 2016, 08:33 AM »
Feel free to use them as you wish.

RMW


Richard, thank for your report "from the field". May we quote from it on our website and use your great pictures,too - with public or initials only credits?
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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #95 on: July 18, 2016, 08:36 AM »
@mike_aa - that setup pretty much obviates the need for parallel guides in many situations. Faster setup and equal results. I'll probably be using it a lot myself.

RMW


Gave my GRS-16 Guide Rail Square a bit of a workout today with super results.  It snapped right on the rail and was dead on square.  I needed to cut a good number of panels to the same size so I paired it with a Woodpecker's rule and rule stop and got consistent results.  Worked great!

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Thanks TSO!

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #96 on: July 18, 2016, 09:17 AM »
I'm away on holiday in Cyprus at the moment so not near my workshop but it's just occurred to me that this new rail square might be a great help in setting up the MFT3 hinged guide rail supports.
I have to remove mine regularly as we use it as an assembly table and when I put it all back together always like to check it or usually redo it to make sure it's bang on.
This might help simplify how I do that set up.

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #97 on: July 18, 2016, 10:06 AM »
Ordered, received, used. darn this is awesome as far as I am concerned [thumbs up]
Life is too short and the road is too long to drive anything less than a Festool

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #98 on: July 18, 2016, 10:41 AM »
Klemm, I couldn't help myself after reading the feedback, so order placed. I too would be interested in a Bosch/Mafell version if you go down that road. Just home use for me.
-Raj

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #99 on: July 18, 2016, 08:40 PM »
I just did my first test cut with this tool using my TS 55. I was cutting 23/32 inch oak faced plywood. The track was hand held without any clamps.

Using a Woodpecker 16-26 square, I was about one Post-it note thickness from dead on at 24 inches. According to Google, that is about 0.003 inches. Some of that 0.003 inches could also be due to variation in the Woodpecker square. I may also become more accurate with practice.

Like everyone commenting so far, I am impressed with the ease of use and accuracy of this tool.


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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #100 on: July 18, 2016, 10:31 PM »
Hans,

Gave my PG-16 it's maiden voyage, no fiddling with the setup, grabbed a rail - slide - click - cut... perfect!

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I checked the first 3-4 cuts, didn't find one with more run-out than perhaps 10-thou over 18" (1/4 MM), which probably came from something other than the guide. This is something we can use with confidence, no need to check the setup or results.

Great addition to the arsenal.

RMW

Richard, I see that you have the Woodpeckers precision 450mm square.  Did you just receive it?  I ordered one and have been wondering when it might show up. How do you like it?

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #101 on: July 18, 2016, 11:03 PM »
Quote from:  link=topic=47270.msg468963#msg468963 date=1468805793
Mike,
great picture and glad it works for you as expected. Thanks for the feedback. Would you give us permission to add your picture to our web page and credit Mike A. ?
Klemm

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Yes, of course.  Please use it any way you like.

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #102 on: July 18, 2016, 11:25 PM »
@mike_aa - that setup pretty much obviates the need for parallel guides in many situations. Faster setup and equal results. I'll probably be using it a lot myself.

RMW

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I agree with you.  Although the parallel guides might have an edge for longer multiple cuts, I do really like this set-up.  After I took the photo, I used the GRS to make a 30 inch cut and it was perfectly square.

Mike A.

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #103 on: July 19, 2016, 01:42 AM »
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Awesome service Klemm [thumbs up] [thumbs up]

So ... can I claim to have the first one in Australia? [big grin]


@Locky .. you're going to love this thing!

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #104 on: July 19, 2016, 04:07 AM »
Hi Klemm

New product looks very good and looks to solve the problem of using the guide rails accurately when out on site away from the workshop and MFT.
I may have missed it but can you confirm shipping costs and ETA to Mainland Uk, Central Scotland. FK postcode?
If it's easier send me over a shipping container full of them and I'll easily sell them here for you and send back the proceeds! [big grin]
Thanks and well done on what appears to be a great product.
Scott
Scott:
Until the end of July shipping is free to international as well as US purchasers for their own use to help give this new product market exposure. We do not plan to extend free shipping to orders received after July 31. There are no plans to sell through dealers in the US or overseas in the foreseeable future.
Klemm

All ordered, paid and already received follow up email from Klemm.
Great service and can't wait to receive it and it it to the "frontline".
Scott

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #105 on: July 19, 2016, 06:49 AM »
Hans,

Gave my PG-16 it's maiden voyage, no fiddling with the setup, grabbed a rail - slide - click - cut... perfect!

(Attachment Link)


(Attachment Link)

I checked the first 3-4 cuts, didn't find one with more run-out than perhaps 10-thou over 18" (1/4 MM), which probably came from something other than the guide. This is something we can use with confidence, no need to check the setup or results.

Great addition to the arsenal.

RMW

Richard, I see that you have the Woodpeckers precision 450mm square.  Did you just receive it?  I ordered one and have been wondering when it might show up. How do you like it?

Clint

@thudchkr - that square is from the first round of that particular OTT, 2013-ish. Great tool, I have both the 450mm and 300mm versions and they get used quite a bit.

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #106 on: July 22, 2016, 12:25 AM »
we have had several requests for spare 8-32 x.375 Imperial Screws to be included with the tool shipment.
The logistics of including after the launch of production with customers waiting for their tool seemed counterproductive. We shipped all the tools without extra screws to avoid delay.
TO begin with we are wondering why someone would want a spare part before  there is any evidence of need - and especially in light of the likelihood that no one will remember where they placed two small screws several years before the need arises - if it ever arises.

We think the best thing is for customers who need a spare part to contact us and we will provide it expeditiously if and when a need arises. For overseas customers it is possible they would also need a 9/64" Allen hex wrench - an item which we can buy for a little under $ 2.00 each plus shipping to us..

We are really gratified by the acceptance of our new tool and look forward to hearing from all of you with ideas, suggestions and concerns as we continue to  improve our offerings.
Look for the GRS-16 PE tool with Parallel Edges to be announced later in August including a special offer for buyers of the Standard GRS-16 before the PE version became available.

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #107 on: July 22, 2016, 12:45 AM »
we have had several requests for spare 8-32 x.375 Imperial Screws to be included with the tool shipment.
The logistics of including after the launch of production with customers waiting for their tool seemed counterproductive. We shipped all the tools without extra screws to avoid delay.
TO begin with we are wondering why someone would want a spare part before  there is any evidence of need - and especially in light of the likelihood that no one will remember where they placed two small screws several years before the need arises - if it ever arises.

We think the best thing is for customers who need a spare part to contact us and we will provide it expeditiously if and when a need arises. For overseas customers it is possible they would also need a 9/64" Allen hex wrench - an item which we can buy for a little under $ 2.00 each plus shipping to us..

We are really gratified by the acceptance of our new tool and look forward to hearing from all of you with ideas, suggestions and concerns as we continue to  improve our offerings.
Look for the GRS-16 PE tool with Parallel Edges to be announced later in August including a special offer for buyers of the Standard GRS-16 before the PE version became available.

Hans aka "Klemm"

That makes perfect sense to me and I have no problem with that. I also have no intent on removing the clamp for any reason! [wink] [big grin]

In markets like Oz, we still have access to imperial threads and tools in the engineering space.

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #108 on: July 22, 2016, 05:25 PM »
I wish mine would hurry up and get here, it took only 3 days to make it all the way from the US to the UK, now its been 5 days in transit from London

What have the delightful UK post office done? strapped it to a tortoise? >:(

Regards

Dale


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« Reply #109 on: July 22, 2016, 05:41 PM »
I wish mine would hurry up and get here, it took only 3 days to make it all the way from the US to the UK, now its been 5 days in transit from London

What have the delightful UK post office done? strapped it to a tortoise? >:(

Regards

Dale

I doubt you'll get the express tortoise service ...

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #110 on: July 22, 2016, 07:29 PM »
Has any one in the UK received their square and if yes, did you have to pay any customs duty tax?

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #111 on: July 23, 2016, 05:33 AM »
Hi folx, hi TSO
Sorry, i might be a bit daft, but are the freight charges to europé, anyone any idea?
Just for today..

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« Reply #112 on: July 23, 2016, 05:35 AM »
Hi folx, hi TSO
Sorry, i might be a bit daft, but are the freight charges to europé, anyone any idea?

@charley1968 zero if you order RIGHT NOW

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« Reply #113 on: July 23, 2016, 05:48 AM »
Ta, Kev. Just gotta convince meself...done.
Just for today..

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« Reply #114 on: July 23, 2016, 01:48 PM »
Since I missed out on the WP version, I am so all over this.
Time to go order...can you ship so it get's delivered on Sunday...(jk)

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #115 on: July 23, 2016, 02:34 PM »
What was the woodpecker square like, any links?

Edit. Just done a sesrch and found it.

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Is it possible to incorporate a way to cut a 45° mitre on the new parallel  square as it would be useful. Just a thought☺


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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #116 on: July 23, 2016, 02:41 PM »
tazprime
try this link http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/latest-woodpecker-ott-track-square/
one major difference is that the GRS-16 Guide Rail Square your purchased does not require the use of the additional reference square described in the WP OTT Track Square product offering.
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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #117 on: July 23, 2016, 02:42 PM »
@TSO Products Is there a way get "faster" shipping (for a fee) within the US?

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #118 on: July 23, 2016, 02:46 PM »
tazprime
try this link http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/latest-woodpecker-ott-track-square/
one major difference is that the GRS-16 Guide Rail Square your purchased does not require the use of the additional reference square described in the WP OTT Track Square product offering.
Hans

Thanks for that. So glad ordered the GRS-16☺. What about the 45° option on the 😉.

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Re: A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review
« Reply #119 on: July 23, 2016, 02:49 PM »
The woodpecker square is not really any different in pricipal to the dewalt and now triton rail square. I have the multiangle version but it was not easy getting accurate setting on it for 90°. I suppose that was the downside to buying the multiangle one. I shall be putting that on ebay.