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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #180 on: May 16, 2016, 04:48 PM »
Storm,
I think I just figured out how to integrate Maxsys into your existing controls without disabling your front panel On/Off buttons. If your machine is the same as the one shown in the document you sent last night, both of the contactors in the machine are the same. So if we add the voltage-controlled relay, you will have a spare/unused contactor already in place. We could then wire them up to work in parallel, with the upper contactor being controlled by Maxsys, and the lower contactor controlled by your onboard push buttons.

This is because your push buttons need a self-sustaining relay, but Maxsys does not. So the upper contactor would be active only when Maxsys is active, and the bottom one would operate in self-sustain mode for the push buttons.

So the first thing we need to do is get you that voltage-controlled relay and get it installed. Then we can do some manual testing to verify my assumptions about your contactors.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #181 on: May 16, 2016, 06:38 PM »
Storm,
I did some searching on eBay and I found a potential relay that I like and at a reasonable price. (Supco APR5) It is solid state, and universal with an adjustable pickup voltage. It also has a cutout feature to protect the motor windings if the motor fails to start.

Here's the catalog sheet on it.
supco.e-shop.co.il/itemfiles/151_potential%20relays.pdf

There are a few eBay listings, and you can search for a few more for yourself (or Amazon). For $20 I think it worth the minor risk to go ahead and order one of these for yourself. While you're waiting for it to arrive, we'll figure out how to connect it. (I'll need to trace the wires inside the control box, so take several pictures from slightly different angles because so I can see where various wires are overlapping each other.)
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #182 on: May 16, 2016, 07:58 PM »
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This is the remote for the Powermatic DC. This particular Powermatic came with a remote that really didn't work at a distance.
Now I can be in another room and the MAXSYS Wireless Remote picks it up.

Thanks again Rick,

Mark

Thanks Rick for pointing that out. I bought it used ( he didn't tell me how to use it) for both line boring and 35mm ( I think it's 35mm) hole boring for hinges.
  But I never took off the line boring accessory, didn't know it was an accessory,  I just took out all the drills and replaced them with the cup bit after I drilled the hole I would put the hinge in the hole and drill the two screw holes by hand with a guide bit.  [embarassed] [embarassed] [embarassed] [embarassed]
I always wondered what that black arm was for. I'm going to have to look at this thing again because I do like euro hinges.

Again thank you
Mark
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #183 on: May 16, 2016, 08:33 PM »
Mark,
Yeah, there should be 3 bore bits for the hinges, the big 35mm, and two 8mm.

You need to order your hinges with dowels, but they should actually be cheaper due to popularity by professional shops. The dowels are barbed plastic so they just press into the 8mm holes. But you can still unscrew the hinges if ever necessary, and the dowels just stay in the holes.

Not only are they faster, but you never have to worry about splitting the wood from a screw.

It took me a while to find a picture of one of them upside down, but here is a common hinge with the dowels.

 

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #184 on: May 16, 2016, 10:14 PM »
Rick,

Will the Maxsys work to power up the Vac-Sys?

Thanks
 Jack

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #185 on: May 16, 2016, 10:22 PM »
Rick,

Will the Maxsys work to power up the Vac-Sys?

Thanks
 Jack
Yes. All it would take is a power cord. Come to think of it, the new Vacsys could probably be wired right into the switch.

Edit to add, Didn't you get a Maxsys for your CT-22? If so, you could play with it to try on your Vacsys. The standard relay on Maxsys would easily handle the low power of the Vacsys.
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #186 on: May 17, 2016, 06:51 AM »
Rick,  That is great news.  Thank you for extra effort you are making.  I have attached a couple of pictures and will email the wiring diagrams.  If you think the SUPR APR5 is the way to go I will purchase one.  Is this Crouzet relay providing the same function just at higher price http://www.onlinecomponents.com/crouzet-control-88827103.html?p=47290544?

Thanks, Storm

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #187 on: May 17, 2016, 07:59 AM »
Rick,

Yes I have a Mxsys for my CT22 and my Jet dust collector. I will test it this weekend.

Thanks
Jack

Rick,

Will the Maxsys work to power up the Vac-Sys?

Thanks
 Jack
Yes. All it would take is a power cord. Come to think of it, the new Vacsys could probably be wired right into the switch.

Edit to add, Didn't you get a Maxsys for your CT-22? If so, you could play with it to try on your Vacsys. The standard relay on Maxsys would easily handle the low power of the Vacsys.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #188 on: May 17, 2016, 08:26 AM »
Rick,
Will the Maxsys work to power up the Vac-Sys?

That's a slick idea, my vacuum pump is located about 10 feet from my workbench, located on a lower shelf on the wall and the large production table of the drill press hangs overhead...rather inconvenient.  [eek]

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #189 on: May 17, 2016, 11:41 AM »
Looks very nice.  Just ordered one for my CT26 and will replacement fobs be available and how to order.  I know myself!  LOL

Just wanted to let you know how much I love this unit!  I have used it doing pocket holes and routing and has saved me many steps.  Thank you Rick!

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #190 on: May 17, 2016, 11:57 AM »
I've been loving my MAXSYS but was wondering about the range and how long the buttons should be pushed.  Do you guys just give it a quick click or do you hold down for a second?  Sometimes I do a quick click and it doesn't activate, so I'm trying to figure out if it's the button-pushing or the antenna (which I may need to adjust).

This is really a nice product.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #191 on: May 17, 2016, 02:19 PM »
This really is a game changer for how I use the CT-26.  I had a remote on the vac before from FastCap.  Always had to walk back to the vac to switch from auto to manual.  Now I NEVER turn it to manual.  The wireless remote is hanging from the hose on the boom arm and it's so convenient to connect to a tool or a vac brush for cleanup.

Really great job, Rick. 

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #192 on: May 17, 2016, 04:46 PM »
I really love hearing all of these success stories. It is really surpassing my expectations when I first envisioned this project. You'd be amazed at how many business associates told me this was a dumb idea, but I pursued it anyways. Boy, did they miss the mark!!  [doh] I'm supposed to be working today, but I haven't been able to break away from email inquiries since I woke up this morning.  [thumbs up]

What has really caught me off guard is how many people want to utilize Maxsys to control so many other things in their workshop. It's falling into the whole Festool concept of a system-wide controller for so many different tools in the workshop. That's something that I didn't see coming.

As quickly as I can, I have been developing different versions of the Maxsys system to universally control other devices in the workshop. What may not have been immediately apparent at first is that ALL of the Maxsys modules within the workshop will work together so that one remote will allow you to control several different machines. Because every Maxsys module includes another remote, this means you will have several duplicate remotes that can control all of your machines!

Because the core Maxsys module is so flexible, I can set this up for so many different uses specific to your shop's needs. The same core Maxsys module that can intelligently control your Festool CT-Vac, can also control your cord-connected tool, or even control your high-power stationary tools. And the beauty of this is that you can do it all with the same remote.

The default 2-button remote will work with 1 or 2 modules. If you order more than 2 modules, I automatically upgrade you to the 4-button remote to control up to 4 different modules.

So keep the comments coming!!!! I love it!!!

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #193 on: May 17, 2016, 04:53 PM »
Hey Rick,
 [eek]  Looks like I'll be ordering a 3rd module...for the vacuum pump.  [cool]  very  [cool]

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #194 on: May 17, 2016, 05:08 PM »
Hey Rick,
 [eek]  Looks like I'll be ordering a 3rd module...for the vacuum pump.  [cool]  very  [cool]

OK, cool. Looking forward to meeting you. My workshop is spotless, but the rest of my house is a disaster. Make sure your tetanus shots are up to date. [scared]

I've got all of your stuff sitting here waiting, but if you get the 3rd module I'll reset everything to include the 4-button remotes.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #195 on: May 18, 2016, 01:07 PM »
This is another shout-out to Rick for offering such a great product and service. I ordered the Maxsys a few weeks ago and installed it when it arrived, but it wasn't functioning. The Maxsys would click, but the vac wouldn't turn on wirelessly. I emailed Rick with a description of the problem and minutes later we were emailing, then talking on the phone. Turns out the control board in my ct26 was faulty (part number 496274 for future reference). Purchased the part through Festool service dept (vac is long past the 3-yr mark) and received it yesterday. Replaced it this morning using detailed instructions Rick had emailed me and everything is functioning as it should.
Thanks again for all the support, Rick!
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #196 on: May 20, 2016, 05:41 PM »
I received my MaxSys last week (only three days after ordering) and got it installed.  Installation was at least as easy as it appeared in the instructions.

I am very pleased with the purchase.  It really makes using my CT-36 much more user-friendly.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #197 on: May 22, 2016, 05:23 PM »
Hi Rick,

Fantastic Idea!

Would you be willing to further pursue a solution for the CT(L)-SYS? (In my case 230V) I would love being able to start it remotely, even if it would be some kind of separate box.

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #198 on: May 22, 2016, 05:46 PM »
Rick

Looks like I need another one as well, just bought another VAC

Regards

Dale

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #199 on: May 22, 2016, 09:18 PM »

Would you be willing to further pursue a solution for the CT(L)-SYS? (In my case 230V) I would love being able to start it remotely, even if it would be some kind of separate box.


I have a huge deadline right now. So I can't even take the time to go look at a CT-Sys for at least a week. However, an idea just occurred to me about making Maxsys work inside of a CT-Sys if there is enough room for a 1x2x3 (25x50x75mm) box inside the case.

If you or someone else were willing to pop the 4 screws from the top of the motor housing and email me some pictures, it would at least tell me if there was enough space inside to bother looking for a solution. It looks like there might be some unused space under the accessory outlet location.
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #200 on: May 22, 2016, 10:56 PM »
Rick

Looks like I need another one as well, just bought another VAC

Regards

Dale

Dale,
If you remind me that you already have a Maxsys at the time you order, I'll at least set up the new one to work from Button-B and set the jumper for 2 modules.

You'll have to move the jumper on your original Maxsys and teach it to recognize Button-B from the new remote. Plus teach your new Maxsys to recognize Button-A from your original remote. This is covered on the back page of the instructions. This will permit both of your remotes to operate both of your Maxsys modules. (This is something I normally do when someone orders multiple Maxsys systems at the same time.)

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #201 on: May 23, 2016, 11:05 AM »
Great product! I use in conjunction with my erika. it allows me to have the vac and saw on two different outlets for when the draw is too much for a residential breaker. Gotta start playing with the aerofix and max sys!

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #202 on: May 23, 2016, 02:41 PM »
I finally ordered one last night - really looking forward to working with it.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #203 on: May 23, 2016, 06:25 PM »

Would you be willing to further pursue a solution for the CT(L)-SYS? (In my case 230V) I would love being able to start it remotely, even if it would be some kind of separate box.


I have a huge deadline right now. So I can't even take the time to go look at a CT-Sys for at least a week. However, an idea just occurred to me about making Maxsys work inside of a CT-Sys if there is enough room for a 1x2x3 (25x50x75mm) box inside the case.

If you or someone else were willing to pop the 4 screws from the top of the motor housing and email me some pictures, it would at least tell me if there was enough space inside to bother looking for a solution. It looks like there might be some unused space under the accessory outlet location.

I'll go downstairs and do it right now - will post pictures within short time :) Although I'm in no hurry and don't want to rush you in anyway to anything. :)

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #204 on: May 23, 2016, 06:34 PM »
I have been cleaning and organizing my basement shop this past week and this thing has been great!  For a while, my SCMS and my MFT are about 20 feet apart. Instead of connecting a hose and an extension cord, I have been using this to turn the vac on and off remote.

Been using this a lot and am really glad I got in early on it.

Thanks again Rick!

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #205 on: May 23, 2016, 07:06 PM »

Would you be willing to further pursue a solution for the CT(L)-SYS? (In my case 230V) I would love being able to start it remotely, even if it would be some kind of separate box.


I have a huge deadline right now. So I can't even take the time to go look at a CT-Sys for at least a week. However, an idea just occurred to me about making Maxsys work inside of a CT-Sys if there is enough room for a 1x2x3 (25x50x75mm) box inside the case.

If you or someone else were willing to pop the 4 screws from the top of the motor housing and email me some pictures, it would at least tell me if there was enough space inside to bother looking for a solution. It looks like there might be some unused space under the accessory outlet location.

I'll go downstairs and do it right now - will post pictures within short time :) Although I'm in no hurry and don't want to rush you in anyway to anything. :)

Kind regards,
Oliver

Back upstairs, here are the promised pictures :)

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244432-1

244434-2

244436-3


Kind regards and again, thank you very much!
Oliver

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #206 on: May 23, 2016, 07:22 PM »
Thank you Oliver. It looks like there is enough space up at the front of the Systainer for my module. The space I previously thought was open is probably occupied by the main control board.

If you still have this open, can you shoot a picture of the front of the control board located behind the accessory outlet. I really doubt we'll find it, but it would be really cool to discover the control board already had terminals for remote control.

Even if it doesn't, I can still make Maxsys work with the CT-Sys, but it won't be plug-and-play like it is with a CT-26/36/48. It would require reconnecting some wires.

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« Reply #207 on: May 23, 2016, 07:30 PM »
Hi Rick,

I don't have it open anymore but I have no problem re-opening - just not today, I'll do it tomorrow, or better in the morning as we have already 1:30 AM here in Germany ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #208 on: May 23, 2016, 10:52 PM »

Would you be willing to further pursue a solution for the CT(L)-SYS? (In my case 230V) I would love being able to start it remotely, even if it would be some kind of separate box.


I have a huge deadline right now. So I can't even take the time to go look at a CT-Sys for at least a week. However, an idea just occurred to me about making Maxsys work inside of a CT-Sys if there is enough room for a 1x2x3 (25x50x75mm) box inside the case.

If you or someone else were willing to pop the 4 screws from the top of the motor housing and email me some pictures, it would at least tell me if there was enough space inside to bother looking for a solution. It looks like there might be some unused space under the accessory outlet location.

I'll go downstairs and do it right now - will post pictures within short time :) Although I'm in no hurry and don't want to rush you in anyway to anything. :)

Kind regards,
Oliver

Back upstairs, here are the promised pictures :)

(Pics removed from quote...)

Kind regards and again, thank you very much!
Oliver


Thank you Oliver. It looks like there is enough space up at the front of the Systainer for my module. The space I previously thought was open is probably occupied by the main control board.

If you still have this open, can you shoot a picture of the front of the control board located behind the accessory outlet. I really doubt we'll find it, but it would be really cool to discover the control board already had terminals for remote control.

Even if it doesn't, I can still make Maxsys work with the CT-Sys, but it won't be plug-and-play like it is with a CT-26/36/48. It would require reconnecting some wires.

Hi Rick,

I don't have it open anymore but I have no problem re-opening - just not today, I'll do it tomorrow, or better in the morning as we have already 1:30 AM here in Germany ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver

Hi Rick,

since I couldn't sleep anyway, I decided to do it early. And given that this CT(L)-SYS had still 2 years and 6 months of warranty left I guess it shows how much faith I have into Festool products.  [eek]  [scared]  8) [big grin]  [wink] - I hope Festool ain't gonna ban me...  [scared] [scared] [scared]

Here are some pictures of the mainboard - front and back. Hope it helps. :)

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244448-1

244450-2


Kind regards,
Oliver

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #209 on: May 24, 2016, 12:55 AM »
I took pictures of the CT-SYS earlier to post. But Oliver has beat me to it. Interestingly the guts on the US model are black. That space where it looks a like a small box will fit ...... I get 2" x 3" x 7/8".

Seth