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Offline teocaf

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2016, 04:44 PM »
what a great product idea. 
this of course begs to be packaged into one of those micro systainers that i saw at woodcraft one time.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2016, 05:11 PM »
absolutely brilliant idea!  Congrats.

next step... RF module that hooks into the cordless on/off to turn on the vac.  and voila no silly remote to lose!!

I didn't mention it earlier because I was already too wordy, but I do want to give a special thanks to Ryan Wenner of Seneca Woodworking (home of the DomiPlate) for graciously providing me with the rapid-prototype components to make sure everything fit in the module bay. Ryan and Ron are truly good friends and I am indebted to them both.

I mention that because Ryan made the same comment to me a couple weeks ago. While it is a great idea, I am reluctant to consider it because it would either require modifying a Festool product (which I will not do) or opens up needless liability for attaching something non-permanently to a power tool.

I can defend that Maxsys does not interfere with a Festool product, but I could not make the same claim with any sort of remote sensor. Sorry.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2016, 05:24 PM »
will this work on all vacs , even those out side of the usa

Yes. All research so far indicates that Maxsys will be totally universal to all countries, regardless what their power system involves. I have a friend in Australia that has done some special research for me, and in exchange, I will be giving him the very first Maxsys produced so that he can confirm all of our data that this is entirely universal for all countries.

I already know Maxsys is universal. The only thing I need to verify is that it is universal without any modifications from country-to-country. So far, everything is pointing to it being 100% universal for all countries.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2016, 06:46 PM »
Since it has been many years since the introduction of the CT 26 and CT 36, I would assume that all CT 22 and CT 33 models are out of warranty. Therefore developing a DIY version for the 22 and 33 would not be a warranty issue, only some very small possibility of a liability issue perhaps.

I think you have a very clever device here, but I am not yet ready to sell my Mini and 33 to buy a newer model just to use your remote.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2016, 07:30 PM »
Since it has been many years since the introduction of the CT 26 and CT 36, I would assume that all CT 22 and CT 33 models are out of warranty. Therefore developing a DIY version for the 22 and 33 would not be a warranty issue, only some very small possibility of a liability issue perhaps.

I think you have a very clever device here, but I am not yet ready to sell my Mini and 33 to buy a newer model just to use your remote.

This idea first hit me over a decade ago because I use my CT-mini for cleaning the house, and I have a 25-foot hose on it. I hate having to drag the hose all the way up the stairs, and then having to trudge all the way back down the stairs to turn the vac on. But I opened up the control board on the CT-Mini, and it just does not support the function. I wish it did, because I really, really want this function on my CT-mini more than any other vac I own.

I cannot advertise Maxsys for the CT22/33 because using it would require opening up the vac in a way that Festool cannot condone. That doesn't mean it can't be done, but I cannot market a product with that intent. I can't even say I would privately offer it, except the previous poster obviously knew enough about his CT22 to know how it might connect. He may be an exception, but certainly not the rule.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2016, 08:46 AM »
Congrats on an innovative and convenient idea, Rick. There will be naysayers but I hope it goes well for you.

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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2016, 03:41 PM »
Congrats on an innovative and convenient idea, Rick. There will be naysayers but I hope it goes well for you.

I find stepping over to the vac turning it off/on simple and reliable. I too love innovation, However this my be a case of a solution looking for a problem.
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2016, 04:13 PM »
I love this idea and am going to plug in an order. There's loads of applications I could find this handy with. Aerofix being number 1 in my mind.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2016, 04:56 PM »
So far in just the first 24 hours, the interest has been very strong, and even a few people have ordered multiple modules. So I've put in an inquiry with my supplier to ask if 4-button remotes are available. I won't know until after the weekend, though.

If they're available, and I'm pretty sure they are, I'll test them out to make sure they can pair to 2 receivers, and then offer those buyers the option of which type of remote they wish to have.

I hadn't considered that option before, so I'm glad I made this early announcement to get the feedback.  [thumbs up]

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« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2016, 05:12 PM »

So far in just the first 24 hours, the interest has been very strong, and even a few people have ordered multiple modules. So I've put in an inquiry with my supplier to ask if 4-button remotes are available. I won't know until after the weekend, though.

If they're available, and I'm pretty sure they are, I'll test them out to make sure they can pair to 2 receivers, and then offer those buyers the option of which type of remote they wish to have.

I hadn't considered that option before, so I'm glad I made this early announcement to get the feedback.  [thumbs up]

Glad to be part of this Rick. Let me know if your friend would be interested in coming up with a remote holder for the hose end. Would love to hear about it.

Cheers. Bryan.
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2016, 05:54 PM »
I'd love to pull the pin on this item as I'm always routing, vacuuming, sanding, vacuuming, Dominoing, vacuuming. The problem is I own a MIDI and a CT 22, so that pretty much eliminates me from the hunt.  [crying]

I also like the hose sleeve idea of Bryan's. The remote would always be readily at hand.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2016, 05:59 PM »
I was thinking that I might get someone to 3D print me one for my 27mm hose and one for my 36 and have the remote just slip into it. Was thinking it could be printed with the spirals so I slip the tool connection off and "screw" this adapter on and put the nozzle back on. I also like the Velcro, but think it would need to be somewhat durable.

Cheers. Bryan.
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Offline Jak147

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2016, 06:02 PM »
Great idea Rick. It's a shame that Festool is such a niche market. I'm sure there are plenty of other brands that would be enhanced by your product too.
Congrats on an innovative and convenient idea, Rick. There will be naysayers but I hope it goes well for you.
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2016, 06:12 PM »
I was thinking that I might get someone to 3D print me one for my 27mm hose and one for my 36 and have the remote just slip into it. Was thinking it could be printed with the spirals so I slip the tool connection off and "screw" this adapter on and put the nozzle back on. I also like the Velcro, but think it would need to be somewhat durable.

Cheers. Bryan.

Bryan you could try something like this and a couple of zip ties.

http://www.amazon.com/Remote-Kote-remote-cover-Tesla/dp/B00FKOO82C

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2016, 07:26 PM »


Bryan you could try something like this and a couple of zip ties.

http://www.amazon.com/Remote-Kote-remote-cover-Tesla/dp/B00FKOO82C

But then I might get it confused with my Tesla remote!  What if I am trying to vac out my P85d and my car takes off!!

;^)

I will come up with something...  I will see if Rick's "guy" has any thoughts. I could also just order the sleeve from Fastcap.

Cheers. Bryan.
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2016, 09:24 PM »
I've been using the wireless remote from FastCap for the past couple of years.  Really like the convenience.  But I had been thinking about the idea of a remote that would not require me to flip the manual / automatic switch when switching from a triggered tool to just the vac.  Glad to see this.

I also burned out a relay on the FastCap when I was ripping some white oak and ended up finding a replacement relay and soldering it in place.  The amp draw from the ripping was too much for the FastCap unit.

Congrats on a cool new addition.  I'll move the FastCap remote to my Midi now!

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2016, 10:47 PM »
I've got a ct26 and I've been looking to do this with a lightbulb and other ways .
This will be perfect and I ordered within a minute of the post going up
When I'm fitting a kitchen I can run the hose in through the window with a 240v lead with it (as I do now ) but when I just want to hoover up press the button but a can still use the auto on off with the power tools it's perfect .
If it works as well with my workflow as I hope I'll be ordering three more for the other vacs .

Thanks again for this dom

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2016, 04:48 AM »
Well my distributor tells me that a 4-button remote is available. I'm requesting a sample so I can test it out to ensure it functions as desired across 2 different receivers. For those that have already ordered 2 Maxsys modules, I will contact you separately to offer the option and discuss it.

Update: I don't know if I'll have to change this in the future, but for now, all pre-orders of multiple Maxsys modules can choose to have a 4-button remote at no additional charge, and i will contact each person before I ship to ask them for their choice. (Pending successful testing, of course.)

« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 01:03 PM by Rick Christopherson »

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #48 on: March 28, 2016, 04:55 AM »
I'd love to pull the pin on this item as I'm always routing, vacuuming, sanding, vacuuming, Dominoing, vacuuming. The problem is I own a MIDI and a CT 22, so that pretty much eliminates me from the hunt.  [crying]

I also like the hose sleeve idea of Bryan's. The remote would always be readily at hand.

@Cheese , You would be another exception. If I can determine that a Maxsys can fit inside of a CT22, you could bring your CT22 to my shop and I could install it for you. I'll examine my own CT22 in the next day or 2.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 04:58 AM by Rick Christopherson »

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« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2016, 09:51 AM »
Well @Rick Christopherson, I'd be all over this one.  [thumbs up] Thanks...just let me know...

It would be nice if that hose sleeve to hold the remote would also retain the end of the Plug it cord. I used a Velcro tie wrap to keep the cord from flopping around when I vacuum.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 10:08 AM by Cheese »

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« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2016, 03:01 PM »

Well my distributor tells me that a 4-button remote is available. I'm requesting a sample so I can test it out to ensure it functions as desired across 2 different receivers. For those that have already ordered 2 Maxsys modules, I will contact you separately to offer the option and discuss it.

Update: I don't know if I'll have to change this in the future, but for now, all pre-orders of multiple Maxsys modules can choose to have a 4-button remote at no additional charge, and i will contact each person before I ship to ask them for their choice. (Pending successful testing, of course.)

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Thanks Rick... Looking forward to the test results.

Cheers. Bryan.
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2016, 03:18 PM »
I have another question if you don't mind @Rick Christopherson ?

Is this powered by the extractor it's fitted in, or does it require batteries?
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2016, 03:19 PM »
Way to go Rick!

I'd be ordering one today if my vacs were compatible...

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« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2016, 03:42 PM »
I have another question if you don't mind @Rick Christopherson ?

Is this powered by the extractor it's fitted in, or does it require batteries?

Yes, the receiver is powered by the extractor, but it is such a low power consumption of just a couple milliamps that it does not trigger the built-in autostart. The receiver also has an intelligent power supply, and that is why the same model will function in any country regardless of voltage.

For safety, Festool disables all autostart functions when the vac is off or in manual mode. So Maxsys also won't draw any power unless the vacuum is in auto-mode.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2016, 04:07 PM »
Looks very nice.  Just ordered one for my CT26 and will replacement fobs be available and how to order.  I know myself!  LOL

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« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2016, 06:49 PM »
Looks very nice.  Just ordered one for my CT26 and will replacement fobs be available and how to order.  I know myself!  LOL

Yes, replacement Fobs will be available. I haven't set the cost yet, but I plan to keep them reasonable, as I don't like the idea of punishing customers for using or losing their tools.  8)

I ordered all of the electronics last night, including ordering a batch of 4-button remotes, even though I haven't tested them yet. I'm sure they will test OK, and I want to be prepared for those already requesting them.

I did some last minute tweaks on the plastics, and will be ordering them tomorrow after the manufacturer overnights some sample finishes to me. They have a guaranteed 15 day turnaround.

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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2016, 06:58 PM »
Rick, could/would you design a similar receiver that could be used with a 120v 2hp dust extractor (harbor freight) that could then be paired with the four button remote?  That way,  you could have one remote for both CT and the bigger extractor.
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Re: Announcing: MAXSYS Wireless Remote for CT-vacs
« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2016, 09:27 PM »
Rick, could/would you design a similar receiver that could be used with a 110v 2hp dust extractor (harbor freight) that could then be paired with the four button remote?  That way,  you could have one remote for both CT and the bigger extractor.

Yes, I can do that. You're the second person to ask. I think there may be a few more who want that option.  [thumbs up]

It would still use a Maxsys receiver, but I would need to pair it with a motor contactor to handle the 2 hp load.
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« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2016, 10:02 PM »
Yes, I can do that. You're the second person to ask. I think there may be a few more who want that option.  [thumbs up]

Rick I'd also be interested in that option for a 1 1/2 HP Jet cyclone. Wouldn't that mean you'd need to power the receiver with a battery?

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« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2016, 10:08 PM »
No, the receiver has a built-in switching power supply to operate from 85V to 250V. So the only thing I would need to get is a motor contactor rated for your motor. The contactor should have a coil voltage (control voltage) that is the same as your motor so that everything is powered from the same incoming power cord.