That's probably a safe assumption to make. Again, we have not received ours yet to play with so I cannot personally confirm.

You can certainly mount the OF2200 in a CMS module - just don't know if it's on Festool USA's shopping list.

It may seem expensive to you guys - but from an international perspective you're getting the bargain of the century (that said, only being a router table today diminishes it somewhat).

I had two privileges at the last Festool class I attended, first was having Brice as a partner, second was getting to use the CMS. It is a truly amazing router table. It was the one tool I knew if it ever became available I would purchase it. I just told Tom to put me on his list (sorry Peter I know this is your thread but, Tom has been my dealer for a few years now).

Tom

The module is the same for all the routers. You wont be able to mount a OF2200 to it because Festool will not be supplying the plastic inserts specific to the OF2200 as confirmed by Shane in the consolidated thread. I don't want to give anyone any bad ideas but those items are very small and plastic/lightweight......in fact you may need only one or two plastic centering rings.

Peter, the guys on JLC are fighting over who will get the first stool, get ready, Eric

I have read and commented in the thread you started about the stool at JLC. As I stated there, as far as I know you are bashing a product you have yet to see, most there think it is over priced. Until I see it and can judge its quality, I refrain from passing judgement. As I posted on JLC, I bought my first Snap-On "hot dog wagon" bottom tools box in 1970 for $2000.00. By the way, that was a lot of money for a 14 year old (my age in 1970). I have 12k in Snap-On tool boxes, all working very well all these years latter. Including that "hot dog wagon" which was my 3rd bottom box. Now imagine what all the tools and equipment cost to fill those boxes and chests, to support my first trade.

So no one is fighting over there. They are more surprised I am buying the CMS. The one that you falsely priced at $2400.00 on JLC. We all know that is not the actual price of the unit, but that is what is believed over at JLC, due to your misinformation.

For the current work I do I do not need the stool. Just because it does not fit my work profile at the present time does not mean I should bash the offering. As I stated over at JLC, if I was still restoring Pantera's I would consider the stool and the work center. I believe they would both work very well with the car on the rotisserie. I thought this may have come from the automotive division of Festool and I now know it has. If I recall correctly, it is the same division that developed the Rotex.

I make no apologies for being curse here. I don't like when a pot is stirred with falsehoods and misinformation. You are entitled to your opinion.  

Tom

You have used the CMS how many times? How do you know it is the 2200 is the only router worth uding in the CMS. How about the 2200 use it often?

The CMS is NOT $2400.00, plain and simple. The most expensive set up is $1600.00. I bet your favorite dealer will confirm this.  I know I'm not going to pay $2400.00 for the full CMS set up. No special deal, just paying the listed Festool price.

Tom

Mighty big "if" you open your post with.

Seeing as in NA you cannot purchase a CMS that accepts the 2200 your point is mute. The least you can do is put forth truthfull information. I bet those who buy this table already own a 1010 or 1400. If they do their work as "contractors" I bet like mine, they (the routers) have more than paid for their spot in the arsenal.

Do you really think that someone who will purchase the CMS does not have some experience with Festool?  

The 1400 out prefoms the 3.25 horsepower Bosch router I have in my router table. I think the only Festool router I own that does not out preform the Bosch and Porter Cable routers I own is the 700. The 700 is a better router than the Bosches and PC's just not as powerful.

Here is a link that shows the cost of the CMS in various configurations. I don't see any at $2400.00.

http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=Router+table&x=0&y=0

I sure your preferred dealer is not selling them for $2400.00 either.

By the way if the need arises and it improves work flow, I'll buy a second router for the CMS. My choice to spend the additional funds at a future date. The CMS will still have only cost $1600.00.

Tom

Not ticked, upset or put off in anyway. Nothing to be upset about.

Tom

Eric, The drawer would be a good place to store your two (2) Syslites...        

Eric, in your experience, how does the OF 1400 compare to the PC 7518?  The 2200, IMHO, is in a league of it's own.  Sure it'd be wonderful to pop in the CMS day one when it comes out on October 1st, but from many reliable folks, who have a ton of experience, an OF 1400 will most that a 7518 can do, if not more.  NOT speaking from experience here.

I have a 2 questions for users of the 2200 in the CMS in other parts of the world:

1.  Is the opening in the table (appropriate mounting module) smaller than the opening in the bottom of the router?  In other words, can you use a larger diameter cutter in the 2200 handheld versus in the CMS?

2.  What is the maximum cutting width bit that can be used in the CMS?

I admit that I am confused by nformation that I have gotten from several people and suspect that others might be too.  I realize that at the current time there will not be this option from Festool USA, but we have readers all over the world.

Thanks,

Peter

Tom,

You can use a CMT 3 1/2" panel raising bit in the 2200 freehand size wise - correct?  Will that same bit fit in the hole in the module with or without rings (if the bit takes up all the room you don't need rings)?  If not, what is the maximum size of the bit that will fit?

Peter

Thanks.. you saved me a trip to the garage!

Yes!

Having the OF2200 in the CMS does not restrict the cutter size.

Jmb