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DUST DEPUTY FOR THE FESTOOL HAS LAUNCHED
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Turn your FESTOOL into THE ULTIMATE DUST EXTRACTION SYSTEM!!!!

The Dust Deputy for the Festool is now shipping!


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Innovation in Dust Collection
It's what Oneida does, it's who we are. And now, enjoy the versatility of our new translucent plastic Dust Deputy on your Festool with an extra large 9 gallon waste storage container!

Injection molded from static dissipating plastic, you now have even more options of mounting it in your shop, and easier hose connections with the tapered inlet and outlet (2" inner diameters). Oneida's patented Dust Deputy will transform your Festool. Attach the Dust Deputy and sand for hours.  Use larger tools like your planer or jointer.  It captures 99% of the dust before it reaches your Festool, no filter clogging, drastically reduce or eliminate bag changes, and no loss of suction. You will extend the life of your Festool and your bags and filters, saving you money on replacements!
 
What is the Dust Deputy?

The Dust Deputy is an extremely efficient, cyclonic pre-separator for vacuums. Trap dust in the barrel and not in your shop vacuum. The Dust Deputy will filter 99% of sanding dust, with only 1% going into the vacuum. Extend the life of your shop vacuum and your filters!

Complete Specifications

Injection molded from translucent, static dissipating plastic - Added to your existing shop vacuum, it uses centrifugal force to literally spin the material being conveyed right out of the airstream and into the bucket.
99% of the material NEVER reaches your shop vacuum! That means longer life for your shop vacuum filter as well as your vacuum itself. That translates into savings on replacements. Maintain maximum suction, no loss in airflow and an end to clogged filters!

Tapered Inlet & Outlet - accommodates different sized hoses and couplings without the hassle of hunting for the right size connection.
 
The Dust Deputy benefits anyone with a shop vacuum, not just woodworkers!
And yes, The Dust Deputy even works with Water!
The Dust Deputy is patented in the US (#7,282,074) and is EU Patent Pending.
Not intended for use with hot coals, ash or explosive / flammable dusts or liquids.

What the Dust Deputy Does For You

Increased Suction Power: Most shop vacuums clog up rapidly. The Dust Deputy knocks out most of the waste before your vacuum so filter stay clean and loss of suction is drastically minimized.
Longer Life: With less filter loading you will get longer filter life span and less wear on your vacuum.
Easier Dust Emptying: Now you can easily dump the dust out of the bucket without having to even open your vacuum.

What can I use the Dust Deputy for?
We have thousands of customers using our patented design with great success for a variety of applications: Wood Dust - Sanding Dust - Drywall Dust - Clay Dust - Concrete Dust - Bakery / Flour Dust - Panel Saws - Dental Laboratories - Anthropology Laboratories - Corn / Pellet Stoves - Pet Grooming - Central Vacuum Systems... The list goes on and on.
 
Flat Rate Shipping
For a limited time, receive flat rate shipping of only $10.50 to all lower 48 United States!

*Alaska, Hawaii, Canada and all other countries: extra shipping charges will apply and will be added after you place your order. Please call 800-732-4065 or email info@oneida-air.com for more information.
 
 


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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2010, 11:31 AM »

What if we already have DDs? How much for the Sysbucket alone?
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« Reply #2 on: February 1, 2010, 10:11 PM »

Will the short hose from the dd to the vac be included?
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« Reply #3 on: February 2, 2010, 09:43 AM »

$169.99 for the 9 gallon container that is designed to integrate with a Festool Dust Extractor.  The container is made of industrial strength static dissipating plastic.  You can also invert your the lid with the Dust Deputy attached and store it in the container.  A hose to attach the Dust Deputy to the Festool will be included. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 2, 2010, 02:32 PM »

I do not understand why you would include the hose to connect the Dust Deputy with the CT extractor with the container...  It is fine that this hose comes with the complete kit for $229, but I would think a better way to market the new container would be either with the kit or alone (without hose).   Please reconsider your marketing of this new container -- I would think you would sell more containers without hoses at $129 than containers with hoses at $169.

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« Reply #5 on: February 2, 2010, 03:33 PM »

Corwin,

I apologize for the ambiguity.  I answered two questions from above at once.  The 9gallon container for $169.99 - does not include the hose.  It is simply the container.  The full package at $229.99 includes the hose. Sorry again for the confusion.

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« Reply #6 on: February 2, 2010, 08:34 PM »

For a lot less money you can get the regular DD and attach it to the CT 22/33 very easily. I don't see the advantage of the new system being worth $130 extra. Eek!
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« Reply #7 on: February 6, 2010, 05:37 PM »

$169.99 for the 9 gallon container that is designed to integrate with a Festool Dust Extractor.  The container is made of industrial strength static dissipating plastic.  You can also invert your the lid with the Dust Deputy attached and store it in the container.  A hose to attach the Dust Deputy to the Festool will be included. 

Now if you could invert the lid and stack more systainers on top, that might be worth considering. 
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« Reply #8 on: February 6, 2010, 05:56 PM »

As I've said before, the new 9 gallon box really does make a professional looking setup.  If I were contracting, going into people's homes I would want one if for no other reason than the professional, dustless impression it would make on customers.  Word of mouth is very important in that business!
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« Reply #9 on: February 7, 2010, 06:27 PM »

As I've said before, the new 9 gallon box really does make a professional looking setup.  If I were contracting, going into people's homes I would want one if for no other reason than the professional, dustless impression it would make on customers.  Word of mouth is very important in that business!


well spoken well  said  Cool Cool i can't for the life of me  understand why you would buy the best tools only to outfit them like Dr Seuss's work shop Scratching Chin Scratching Chin
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« Reply #10 on: February 8, 2010, 01:35 PM »

ordered mine today
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« Reply #11 on: February 8, 2010, 02:50 PM »

As I've said before, the new 9 gallon box really does make a professional looking setup.  If I were contracting, going into people's homes I would want one if for no other reason than the professional, dustless impression it would make on customers.  Word of mouth is very important in that business!


well spoken well  said  Cool Cool i can't for the life of me  understand why you would buy the best tools only to outfit them like Dr Seuss's work shop Scratching Chin Scratching Chin

Counterfix,

I just got my third Dust Deputy last week.  I stuck with the Dr. Seuss model.  Reason being, I don't take my vacs on the road and no one sees them.  So image isn't needed, just functionality.  So If I were buying all three complete units right now,  I'd save 390.00 with the Dr. Seuss models.  

I plan to use the saved money to improve the systems flaws for optimal performance with improved airflow, static reduction, zero flexing of the system,  zero stress on the cyclone when the hose is pulled, and totally dust free emptying.  After modifying everything, I doubt I will have spent all the savings but probably pretty close.

Besides, I always liked Green Eggs and Ham! Wink  "Different strokes for different folks"

But you are correct, If I were doing business in someones home, the more expensive sysbucket looks much nicer and has more capacity, which would be a 2nd benefit when mobile.
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« Reply #12 on: February 9, 2010, 07:28 AM »

I'm with you on that Wayne.  Mine stay in my shop so there are no customers to impress.  Two features that I prefer with the bucket is that I can visually check the level so I can tell when it's time to empty and I can empty the bucket a little faster than the box (no latches to undo).  In that respect I would be paying more for less convenience with the box.
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« Reply #13 on: February 9, 2010, 08:56 AM »

Ron,

I can't wait to get back in my shop and get these projects finished.  I still have to get two boom arms too.  When I get these completed with the 4 inch gates it's gonna be pretty slick.  I may change my main cyclone to two 35 gallon drums Y'd in to double the time between emptying.  Between the machine hookups, floor sweeps and auto emptying Festool/dust deputy vacs,  all dust and debris will end up in the Large cyclone bags.  I use 55 gallon bags in a 35 gallon drum so they are easy to pull out and tie off without re distributing any dust.
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2010, 01:19 PM »

Just got my first CT33 and the boom arm. Just wondering if the boom arm would get in the way of this new DD? As I have not used one before, any clues as to how this mounts to the vac would be appreciated. I assume you can stack them to save floor space?
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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2010, 02:33 PM »

Just got my first CT33 and the boom arm. Just wondering if the boom arm would get in the way of this new DD? As I have not used one before, any clues as to how this mounts to the vac would be appreciated. I assume you can stack them to save floor space?

Joe, I can't really answer your question but I'll assume the boom arm won't interfere since it doesn't get in the way of stacking Systainers. 
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2010, 03:52 PM »

Just got my first CT33 and the boom arm. Just wondering if the boom arm would get in the way of this new DD? As I have not used one before, any clues as to how this mounts to the vac would be appreciated. I assume you can stack them to save floor space?


A cyclone will not get in the way of the Boom Arm installed on your CT.  Before this new container option, several of us have found simple ways to mount a container and cyclone to the vacuums.  This new Systaier-like container will be even simpler since it fits on the vacs just like a Systainer of Sortainer do -- tip up the rear of container a little as you place it on your CT to allow front tabs to fit in position, then lower the back and slide the latches to capture the container.  With the container and cyclone in place, attach the hoses -- the length of D50 that came with the Boom Arm will most likely be a little too short to attach to the top of the cyclone, but the Dust Deputy package deal comes with a hose for this purpose.   

Below is an old picture of my ClearVue cyclone on a CT22 with Boom Arm.  While this makes a great unit, the new Systainer-container discussed in this thread would be even nicer...



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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2010, 04:07 PM »

If the introductory price is $229.00, what will the regular price be?
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2010, 12:01 AM »

I'm with you on that Wayne.  Mine stay in my shop so there are no customers to impress.  Two features that I prefer with the bucket is that I can visually check the level so I can tell when it's time to empty and I can empty the bucket a little faster than the box (no latches to undo).  In that respect I would be paying more for less convenience with the box.

I think most who have gone through the trouble to make their DD work with their Festool system will say something similar to this.  I did feel it was a PIA to have to 1) build a stiffener lid(and find longer bolts), 2) cut out a 1/2" BB seat with notches and countersunk carrage bolts to attach the DD to the vac, and 3) find another hose to use as the supplied hose was not long enough.  Although all this only took a couple hours it would be nice to have a system that works without all the modifications.  I also think the supplied DD bucket lid leaves a bit to be desired too...

If I had not dealt with the hassle of getting my DD to work with my CT22  I would consider the new system.  Maybe when I get another Festool vac......
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2010, 09:00 PM »

This was the 3rd week of feb, anyone get one yet?
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2010, 08:02 PM »

I ordered one last week.  Hopefully it will be in this week....
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2010, 10:37 AM »

this is a thing of beauty, beats the  out of buying the lifetime bag for 30 bucks less, a lot more capacity vs my ct 22, now i'll be able to hook up my router table, table saw and kapex and not worry about going through 10 regular bags a day!
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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2010, 10:43 AM »

This was the 3rd week of feb, anyone get one yet?

I didn't order one but did see one in the wild at a local woodworking store. Very well made and worked great made me think about gettig one.
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« Reply #23 on: March 8, 2010, 05:42 PM »

Just a heads up.

I bought this unit today from a local supplier to use with my CT Midi. Arriving home the first thing I checked was how securely the two latched together. The short answer: They don't. At least not without modifications. The two latches on the left side of the CT clip on as expected, but the right side latches do not. They physically cannot. Unlike the CT 22/33s and hose garages which have fixed protrusions on the right side to secure systainers, the Mini/Midis use the basic green latch. Due to a design incongruency these latches will not clip onto the right side of the molded dust box. This would be simple enough to explain with a picture or two but I can't help there.

Looking at it, I'm thinking a sharp knife could actually remedy the issue easily enough. Then again I just paid close to C$300 after tax for seamless worry-free integration so why should I start hacking away at this thing without guarantee that everything will be golden.

To make it clear, those of you with a CT 22, CT 33, or hose garage shouldn't run into this problem. Mini and Midi owners, however, you may be disappointed.
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« Reply #24 on: March 8, 2010, 05:54 PM »

Actually you received a first run model. Models going forward will have the modification that you speak of done at the factory. 
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« Reply #25 on: March 8, 2010, 08:47 PM »

Actually you received a first run model. Models going forward will have the modification that you speak of done at the factory. 
Good Response,  We like that kind of answer.

Looking at it, I'm thinking a sharp knife could actually remedy the issue easily enough. Then again I just paid close to C$300 after tax for seamless worry-free integration so why should I start hacking away at this thing without guarantee that everything will be golden.

I am sure that there are no "hacks" on this forum Scared  It is my guess that Onida didn't even think to check out the MINI/MIDI til it was too late, it is always fun being an early adopter and having to massage the product to fit. Eek!

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« Reply #26 on: March 8, 2010, 10:21 PM »

For this product to work best within the Festool system, this container should be designed such that it can be latched to the top of a Systainer or Sortainer.  If so designed, it would also be able to attach to any of the Festool extractors.  Anything short of this is a design flaw for something that was supposed to be designed specifically for the Festool line.

Keep in mind that may of us want to attach a Systainer and/or Sortainer to the top of our vacs and then attach the cyclone's container on top of that stack.
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« Reply #27 on: March 9, 2010, 12:20 AM »

For this product to work best within the Festool system, this container should be designed such that it can be latched to the top of a Systainer or Sortainer.  If so designed, it would also be able to attach to any of the Festool extractors.  Anything short of this is a design flaw for something that was supposed to be designed specifically for the Festool line.

Keep in mind that may of us want to attach a Systainer and/or Sortainer to the top of our vacs and then attach the cyclone's container on top of that stack.


Yeah, I guess the original pictures shown here is what I was expecting, color difference aside -- It's now black, not grey. Had what I actually purchased today looked just like this I'd probably be keeping it. But it doesn't quite, obviously because of the right side not latching at all (apparently fixed in Oneida's second run), but also because the familiar square edged double-pronged tabs on the side, as seen in those pics, are now in fact a single sort of rounded nub which the green latches don't 'click' onto in the way I'm accustomed; the firm click that tells me things are locked down. Call me picky, but it's the little things.

So overall I'm a bit underwhelmed considering the price and it's headed back to the store. Having had time to look it over I'm thinking I'd be happier going the DIY route and securing a basic Dust Deputy to a Sys 5 as I've seen in another thread.
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« Reply #28 on: March 9, 2010, 01:52 AM »

For this product to work best within the Festool system, this container should be designed such that it can be latched to the top of a Systainer or Sortainer.  If so designed, it would also be able to attach to any of the Festool extractors.  Anything short of this is a design flaw for something that was supposed to be designed specifically for the Festool line.

Keep in mind that may of us want to attach a Systainer and/or Sortainer to the top of our vacs and then attach the cyclone's container on top of that stack.

+1  Attaching it to a Sortainer was my plan as well.
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« Reply #29 on: March 9, 2010, 06:40 PM »


Keep in mind that may of us want to attach a Systainer and/or Sortainer to the top of our vacs and then attach the cyclone's container on top of that stack.

Corwin,

Also keep in mind that if you put your dust deputy set up on top of  a systainer, the hose supplied by Oneida may not reach between the vac and the top of the cyclone.  

I have the old bucket style, in fact I just installed my third one this weekend.  I used the large hose that comes with the boom arm to go between the vac and the top of the cyclone.  The Oneida supplied hose was to short.  

I believe the buckets are a little taller than the systainer style.  That is just an observation from the pictures, not a measurement.  And I don't know the length of the hose that Oneida sends with the Festool systainer type bucket either.  This is an unwieldy connection though since there is  90 degree bend out the side of the vac turning upwards, and another 180 degree turn at the top to come down onto the cyclone.  A stiffer hose works better since it won't collapse as easy under vacuum as it goes around the bends.  

The hose that came with my last Dust Deputy was plenty stiff and won't collapse.  It was just too short, so thats why I used the 50mm hose supplied with the boom arm for this connection.

On my first Dust Deputy setups, the Oneida supplied hose was more flexible and easier to collapse on the sharp bends, and it was too short.  On those set ups, I used 2 1/2 inch wire reinforced clear hose like they sell at woodcraft.  And even it scrunched down under suction as it made the 180 degree turn at the top of the cyclone.  

The best set up would be to have a large radius solid piping at the top of the cyclone that made the 180 degree loop and a large radius 90 degree coming attached to the vac pointing up.  then the section of hose between these fittings would be easier to manage and could be just about any type of hose.  Of course you would still have to adjust the length according to accommodate the extra systainers added to your stack.

On the system I set up this weekend, I used the old style double bucket attached to a board that latches into the systainer pocket on top of the CT.  I used the Boom arm 50mm between the vac and cyclone.  I used 2 1/2 inch clear wire reinforced hose from the cyclone up the boom arm to the tip.  At the tip I threaded it through a three inch PVC 45 degree street EL that is mounted to the tip of the boom arm.  The Street EL supports the bend and keeps the hose from kinking as it makes the turn towards the floor.  I also stripped back the wire from the wire reinforced hose on both ends to connect to the Festool ends to complete the circuit to maintain the anti static properties.   I simply wrapped the wire around the Festool plastic and clamped it with a circle clamp.  Finally, I attached a 15 foot electric cord from the vac up the boom arm to the tip with wire ties.  And attached the Festool cords to both Festool hoses (27mm and 36mm) with velcro strips.  

When you attach the Festool hose to the boom arm for use, it has much better reach since it attaches on the end of the boom arm.  Even though my vac is mobile, It has enough reach to use everywhere I usually work without moving it.  And I tested the suction to see if I could notice any reduction.  Set up as described, I still have to reduce the suction when sanding with my ETS 150/3 to make it "float".  I believe the reduction in suction is minimized since the hoses start large at the vac 50mm, then through the cyclone, then to 2 1/2 inch, then to the work hoses.  And total length is about 25 feet.  The whole set up took about two hours including assembling the boom arm, cutting the mounting board.

I will try to add some pics but it's a pretty simple set up as described.

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