Chuck Kiser
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« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2009, 06:21 PM » |
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It also states that class will be for onsite cabinet construction. Not many cabinet makers that I know of do much of there work onsite.
Chris
Chris, I think that is the thrust of Festools class. As a cab. builder I used to build only in my shop. With the addition of the Festool product line I now build wherever is most suitable. Depending on the project the customers garage or backyard may actually be preferred. The class may be geared toward cabinets but any similar 'built-in' would/could be built using the same techniques. With the decrease in new building I see an upswing in remodels. One good way to add value and a fresh look to a home is with new cabs., bars, hutches ect. Maybe Festool is hoping that other finish carpenters will start actively looking at this market. We know many of the bigger cab. shops have closed their doors and that leaves a void. Just one mans opinion of course. Chuck
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maxtool
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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2009, 08:45 PM » |
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Like a lot of people I would have learned a lot in this class - and wish I had made it into the class. It would have been easier to figure out what was going on if Festool had: 1. Sent an automatic e-mail confirming receipt of my completed survey. 2. Sent me an e-mail notifying me that I had not been selected.
I hope they are able to figure out how to give more of us this opportunity. For me, I imagine that during the class I'd discover several additional tools that would be "must haves" for me (so they'd sell more tools). AND with better skills I'd do a better job of inspiring others to try and use Festool.
In the meantime, I'm glad I can count on this forum to help me learn.
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Shane Holland
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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2009, 08:19 AM » |
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Mac, this was partially my fault. My understanding is that we had every intention of notifying those who were not selected by email. I didn't realize that had not happened when I posted that selected participants had been notified. We needed to wait for all of them to confirm their ability to attend before we could notify those not selected. Regarding receiving an email confirmation that the survey was received, I will need to check to see if that's something that we can do and will be sure to pass that feedback along to the person who administers the surveys. This is a new program and we will need to continue to refine the process based on feedback for both the selection process and the class itself.
Again, I would like to remind all applicants that there will be additional opportunities to participate in end-user training. I have recommended that we choose the next set of attendees from existing applications.
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« Reply #33 on: November 2, 2009, 05:12 PM » |
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Just thought I would share a few photos that I popped in and took throughout the day. I wasn't in the classroom but I know some of what was covered was cutting down sheet goods with the TS and parallel guides, routing dadoes with the OF 1010, using the LR 32 system for hinges and shelf pins, and the Domino for joining panels and face frames.
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Bob Marino
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« Reply #34 on: November 2, 2009, 05:21 PM » |
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Shane,
Thanks! How about some names for the faces?
Bob
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« Reply #35 on: November 2, 2009, 05:47 PM » |
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Bob, just like with the last class, I would prefer to let folks identify themselves or remain anonymous as they so choose. I suspect some of them will be posting up more photos over the next few days. I saw some cameras.
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Brice Burrell
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« Reply #36 on: November 2, 2009, 07:34 PM » |
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I would have liked to have gone, it seemed like it would be a fun couple of days. Thanks for posting the pics Shane and I'm looking forward to the users posting their feedback.
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« Reply #37 on: November 2, 2009, 07:46 PM » |
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You should have set up out side today for the class. It was a beautiful November day in Indiana.
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Peter Halle
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« Reply #38 on: November 2, 2009, 07:48 PM » |
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Brice,
I thought that it would have been neat for you and Per ( if he is still around ) to go. Granted, I personally thought that it would have been neater for ME to go but just like the first class, this is a class to work some of the bugs out and the people chosen had more experience than I.
Peter
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« Reply #39 on: November 2, 2009, 08:03 PM » |
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Bob, just like with the last class, I would prefer to let folks identify themselves or remain anonymous as they so choose. I suspect some of them will be posting up more photos over the next few days. I saw some cameras.
Ooops, good point! Bob
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« Reply #40 on: November 2, 2009, 09:43 PM » |
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Hay that is me in green t shirt. I'm here having a great time. The festool staff are a great bunch of people. The class is filled with great tips.
I am a cabinet installer from Pittsburgh PA.
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« Reply #41 on: November 2, 2009, 09:47 PM » |
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Welcome A...., Enjoy the atmosphere, the people, and the knowledge. It is great. Let us know some of what you learned when you get a chance. Welcome to the forum.  Peter
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TS-55, RO 150, RAS 115, TDK 12, CT-22, 1400, Domino, MFT/3, Guiderail Acc, lots of sandpaper, other systainers and sortainers, long rail, domino assortment, 4mm cutters, centrotec imperial drill bits.
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Peter HS
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« Reply #42 on: November 3, 2009, 04:37 AM » |
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Were there any new tools being prototyped or just the current off-the-shelf products? I like the photo of the training room. The wall looked like it was Systainer heaven. It was nice to see the MFT/3 and I never doubted anything but Festool products would have been used. I love my MFT/3 and the worktop height is absolutely perfect and it's a nice safe height to work at. Finally, if Festool UK ever offer a training day I'd love an invite. True, I'm only a hobbyist and will hopefully post some photos of my first builtin wardrobe at home. I will never work at the same level as the seasoned professionals do and I guess that disqualifies me from any invitation. Still, there's no harm done by asking. 
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« Reply #43 on: November 4, 2009, 04:24 PM » |
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Were there any new tools being prototyped or just the current off-the-shelf products? I like the photo of the training room. The wall looked like it was Systainer heaven. It was nice to see the MFT/3 and I never doubted anything but Festool products would have been used. I love my MFT/3 and the worktop height is absolutely perfect and it's a nice safe height to work at. Finally, if Festool UK ever offer a training day I'd love an invite. True, I'm only a hobbyist and will hopefully post some photos of my first builtin wardrobe at home. I will never work at the same level as the seasoned professionals do and I guess that disqualifies me from any invitation. Still, there's no harm done by asking.  we used all off the shelf tools. however tuesday afternoon we were shown several new tools that will be introduced here in the us next year. a vacume holding device.. great. the drywall sander, excellant and several drill and fostner bit sets. the added router station to attach to the mft 3 table. I think it is the cms. several other items.
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« Reply #44 on: November 4, 2009, 04:35 PM » |
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Good thing you were not required to sign an NDA.  we used all off the shelf tools. however tuesday afternoon we were shown several new tools that will be introduced here in the us next year. a vacume holding device.. great. the drywall sander, excellant and several drill and fostner bit sets. the added router station to attach to the mft 3 table. I think it is the cms. several other items.
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« Reply #45 on: November 6, 2009, 12:19 PM » |
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Congratulations to Festool and envy to the participants!! This is exactly the kind of hands-on training that I envisioned and advocated when I attended the Festool fantasy camp in Henderson way back in April, 2008. Building a cabinet was an excellent project choice. I hope Festool will offer many more in the future.
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