I picked up a CT Mini Dust Extractor (583 360) that came on today.  I'm not to familiar with the model history but is this an old or current sku?     Was there any updates like a newer style hose garage I should be aware of, or maybe mine is good and modern?

It said it was 99cfm

The festool website shows the current mini with item# 574786.  It looks like a side rotating (new style systainer locking mechanism) is on the side of the latest one.

99 CFM ,the CT SYS is 106 CFM .
$326.25 plus tax that's more then what it cost new $300 back in the days .I don't know what years this catalog is ,it got the Mini 583 360 for $300 .

http://www.talasonline.com/images/PDF/Festool/Catalog-Dust-Extraction.pdf

I cancelled my order for the 99cfm mini.  It should be popping up again.

I was tempted but learned they offer a C18 and T18 drills that are larger like I'm used to in Yellow color.  It seemed like a mini drill to me.

I just bought the CXS that came up for sale.  I had been interested in this drill the last 2 times it came up on the recon sale, but I think they only came with the 1.5AH batteries.  This time it was being offered with the 2.6AH batteries so I bought it.

I hope I made the right decision.  I got the Bosch Flexiclick 5 in 1 back in September 2017 so I didn't really need another drill of this type (right angle attachment).  Although I will say I didn't really like how the Bosch fit in my hand.  I thought it would have been more comfortable, but it just felt kinda weird.  I'm mostly used to my 18V Makita impact driver and the 18V drill/driver.

I get the sense from most post, comments, and YouTube videos that just about everyone absolutely loves their CXS.

Would appreciate your feedback when you receive your CXS.  I'm torn between getting the CXS or Bosch FlexiClick myself and would like to hear your comparison and input.  Especially since the CXS does not have the offset chuck the Bosch has.

Quote from: DIY WoodWerx on February 15, 2018, 06:34 PM

Quote from: GoingMyWay on February 15, 2018, 01:22 PM

I just bought the CXS that came up for sale.  I had been interested in this drill the last 2 times it came up on the recon sale, but I think they only came with the 1.5AH batteries.  This time it was being offered with the 2.6AH batteries so I bought it.

I hope I made the right decision.  I got the Bosch Flexiclick 5 in 1 back in September 2017 so I didn't really need another drill of this type (right angle attachment).  Although I will say I didn't really like how the Bosch fit in my hand.  I thought it would have been more comfortable, but it just felt kinda weird.  I'm mostly used to my 18V Makita impact driver and the 18V drill/driver.

I get the sense from most post, comments, and YouTube videos that just about everyone absolutely loves their CXS.

Would appreciate your feedback when you receive your CXS.  I'm torn between getting the CXS or Bosch FlexiClick myself and would like to hear your comparison and input.  Especially since the CXS does not have the offset chuck the Bosch has.

I hope you get your feedback.  I just wanted to mention that the reason the CXS /TXS don't have offset chucks like the other Festool drills is due to their slender nose and body size. 

Peter

So will the CXS and TXS get as close as the offset on the Bosch or other Festool drills with offset chuck?

I just bought the CXS that came up for sale.  I had been interested in this drill the last 2 times it came up on the recon sale, but I think they only came with the 1.5AH batteries.  This time it was being offered with the 2.6AH batteries so I bought it.

I hope I made the right decision.  I got the Bosch Flexiclick 5 in 1 back in September 2017 so I didn't really need another drill of this type (right angle attachment).  Although I will say I didn't really like how the Bosch fit in my hand.  I thought it would have been more comfortable, but it just felt kinda weird.  I'm mostly used to my 18V Makita impact driver and the 18V drill/driver.

I get the sense from most post, comments, and YouTube videos that just about everyone absolutely loves their CXS.

You’ll love it. I’ve had mine for maybe three or four years now with the small batteries and it is a great little driver.

Quote from: GoingMyWay on February 15, 2018, 01:22 PM

I just bought the CXS that came up for sale.  I had been interested in this drill the last 2 times it came up on the recon sale, but I think they only came with the 1.5AH batteries.  This time it was being offered with the 2.6AH batteries so I bought it.

I hope I made the right decision.  I got the Bosch Flexiclick 5 in 1 back in September 2017 so I didn't really need another drill of this type (right angle attachment).  Although I will say I didn't really like how the Bosch fit in my hand.  I thought it would have been more comfortable, but it just felt kinda weird.  I'm mostly used to my 18V Makita impact driver and the 18V drill/driver.

I get the sense from most post, comments, and YouTube videos that just about everyone absolutely loves their CXS.

Would appreciate your feedback when you receive your CXS.  I'm torn between getting the CXS or Bosch FlexiClick myself and would like to hear your comparison and input.  Especially since the CXS does not have the offset chuck the Bosch has.

The refurbished CXS arrived yesterday.  It has a manufacture date of May 2017.  My initial impressions are:

The Bosch feels slightly heavier (I can weigh the 2 to compare if anyone is interested, but it does feel heavier in my hand).  The Bosch seems to be a little more "front heavy" than the CXS.  The CXS feels much more balanced and natural in my hand with either my index or middle finger on the trigger.  The Bosch feels slightly more powerful than the CXS.  I think I like the CXS more than the Bosch

It sounded like you were most interested in comparing how close you could get with the Bosch with the offset vs the CXS.  What's the use case for that scenario?  Screwing into a 90 degree corner?  Was there anything else specifically that you wanted compared?

I took a bunch of pictures showing the various combinations of Bosch and Festool chucks.  A lot of the pictures illustrate that the bit will simply not be able to drive the screw in so I've only attached the images that actually show a viable means of screwing a corner bracket into a corner.

I'd say that the Bosch Flexiclick Offset chuck works most effectively, well because this is seemingly exactly the situation that it was designed for.



The Festool right angle chuck works almost equally well with or without the addition of the Centrotec chuck - although the green Centrotec chuck release did rub against the wood leaving a slight mark.




You'd probably be best served using a longer bit or bit holder with either the Bosch Offset or Festool right angle chucks (without the Centrotec chuck) otherwise you need to angle the bit a little which as we all know tends to cause cam out.





I did note a couple of things:

I still prefer the way the CXS feels in my hand compared to the Bosch.
The belt hook seems very handy, although I have yet to actually try hooking it to myself.

The magnetic chuck on the CXS was a really nice feature - none of the Bosch chucks are magnetized so the screw kept falling off when I was setting up the pictures (annoying just like what happens in real life).  I was using Bosch impact bits, which are are not magnetized so I suppose I could have used some other bits that were magnetized or use a magnetized bit holder.

I was also drilling some 1 1/8" Bosch Daredevil Spade bit holes through some 2x4's.  The CXS didn't have the power to drill a single hole.  The Bosch was able to drill the 4 holes that I needed, mostly without problem.  In most cases you'd use a more powerful drill when using a spade bit, but I thought I'd just mention again that the Bosch is in fact more powerful.

I hope this was helpful.  Please let me know if you wanted me to take pictures of anything other type of comparison.

I took a bunch of pictures showing the various combinations of Bosch and Festool chucks.  A lot of the pictures illustrate that the bit will simply not be able to drive the screw in so I've only attached the images that actually show a viable means of screwing a corner bracket into a corner.

I'd say that the Bosch Flexiclick Offset chuck works most effectively, well because this is seemingly exactly the situation that it was designed for.

The Festool right angle chuck works almost equally well with or without the addition of the Centrotec chuck - although the green Centrotec chuck release did rub against the wood leaving a slight mark.

You'd probably be best served using a longer bit or bit holder with either the Bosch Offset or Festool right angle chucks (without the Centrotec chuck) otherwise you need to angle the bit a little which as we all know tends to cause cam out.

I did note a couple of things:

I still prefer the way the CXS feels in my hand compared to the Bosch.
The belt hook seems very handy, although I have yet to actually try hooking it to myself.

The magnetic chuck on the CXS was a really nice feature - none of the Bosch chucks are magnetized so the screw kept falling off when I was setting up the pictures (annoying just like what happens in real life).  I was using Bosch impact bits, which are are not magnetized so I suppose I could have used some other bits that were magnetized or use a magnetized bit holder.

I was also drilling some 1 1/8" Bosch Daredevil Spade bit holes through some 2x4's.  The CXS didn't have the power to drill a single hole.  The Bosch was able to drill the 4 holes that I needed, mostly without problem.  In most cases you'd use a more powerful drill when using a spade bit, but I thought I'd just mention again that the Bosch is in fact more powerful.

I hope this was helpful.  Please let me know if you wanted me to take pictures of anything other type of comparison.

Thank you for the photos.  The Bosch 12V Flexiclick has quickly become my most reached for drill.  It is more powerful than I had expected and an all around excellent tool for its size.  Can't beat it for the price.  I do like my T18 and have never even held a CXS, but for 85% of what I typically do, the Flexiclick is hard to beat. 

Does the Festool Centrotec adapter and Centrotec Chuck fit the Bosch FlexiClick drill?

The Centrotec chuck will not fit onto the Bosch Flexiclick.  I haven't tried this, but I believe the Centrotec bit holder should fit into the Bosch as it's just a standard 1/4" hex, but I don't see the point since it won't positively engage the detent and will fall out when turned vertically.

My plan was get the Flexiclick and get some centrotec bits.  Thanks for the quick reply.  I was interested in the centrotec bits after reading they were high quality and long lasting.  To bad the CXS doesn’t have an offset chuck option.

Turns out I was slightly mistaken about the bit holder falling out when turned vertically.  The fit is tight enough that the hex shank will stay in with or without the locking bit chuck (see attachments).  It still might pull out if you have a very tight fitting screw head though.

I just discovered that you could buy this Centrotec adapter that you could screw into the Bosch's jacob's chuck so you could use the Centrotec chuck: https://www.festoolproducts.com/festool-496450-keyless-chuck-centrotec-adapter.html.  This of course takes away from the sleek form factor when trying to get into tight spaces however.

I'll check out that adapter for the centrotec.  Maybe someone has a video or review out there of it on the Bosch Flexiclick.

Thanks for the followup reviews and pics.  Very helpful

I just missed out on buying the refurbished MFT/3 that just came up.  I was in the process of checking out but I made a mistake in the Cardholder name field so it got rejected and I had to re-enter that information.  By the time I had done that it had sold out.  I don't know if my mistake actually cost me the purchase or not.

I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad.  The final price with tax was going to be $572.40.  I know a lot of people have complaints about the stability of the MFT and its ability to make square cuts.  I've always wanted one since it seems like it would make things easier than the current setup of a custom top made with the Parf Guide System that I'm using.

I kinda hesitated in making the purchase because it's pretty expensive and it's gonna be pretty hard to hide from my wife, unlike just another systainer.

I'm sure another will come up soon. 

I still have mixed feelings on the MFT.  I have two of them now, and for my current situation, they make perfect sense.  But just a year or two ago, I couldn't understand why in the world people bought them.  So what changed for me?

1)  My shop size shrunk from small garage space to tiny due to an ongoing renovation that will probably continue for the rest of time.
2)  My cabinet saw essentially had to be broken down / not usable in the same way it was before necessitating smaller work that I'd do easily on the tablesaw to be done with tracksaw.
3)  Most of my permanant shop storage (cabinets, under-bench storage, drawers, etc.) went bye-bye.
4)  Everything had to become not just mobile but REALLY mobile; able to be taken out, shuffled around, and put away efficiently on a close to daily basis

If it weren't for all of this, I'd be squarely in the it's-over-priced, build-your-own category.

Does anyone have thoughts on "flipping" recon items? There's a guy near me who is clearly buying a good amount of festool recons and listing them for much more on offerup/craigslist, while calling them "like new."

Not that there's anything illegal about it, but it's bush league if you ask me.

I don't think there's anything wrong with it, though I wouldn't do it because most of these deals don't seem to be that great of a bargain and you'd risk not making a profit.  I mean, if someone wants to buy a recon VAC-SYS for $1,500 (one of the items today) and try selling it for close to the brand-new price of $1,800, good luck with that.