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Offline Kodi Crescent

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Re: Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2016, 07:55 AM »
This may be an opportunity for a dealer here.  Dealers could purchase several sets of parts, sort them and packages them as "Build your own functional Festool accessory" bundles.  Assembly instructions may need to be created.  If the dealers can negotiate a better Ekat price than the end user, the dealer gets some form of profit incentive.  Add in a bit of extra for instructions and packaging.  The dealer makes money, the customer gets a convenient purchasing experience, a useful accessory, and an adult tinker-toy building experience.

Offline PreferrablyWood

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Re: Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2016, 11:04 AM »
I did the math on the parts it's not really a good idea economically.
RO 150, 850 HL E Planer rustic head standard head angle fence, MFS 400x2, MFS extensions MFS VB 700 x 1 MFS VB 1000 x 2 . CMS GE, sliding fence, VB and 2x VL extension tables, OF 2200, Accessory Set ZS OF 2200 M,36mm 5m antistatik hose, CMS OF+ CMS TS 75 insert modules. SYS-MFT Fixing-Set,  3.5m sleeved hose, Syslite duo, Sys 4 sort 3 x3, Sys Roll, Sys 1 Box x2 , classic Sys 3-Sort 4, classic Sys 3 Sort 6 x2, Sys Cart x3 Systainer 4 x2  as toolbox with selfmade inserts Systainer 5 as toolbox with insert.
Festool 18V HKC 55 Li 5.2 EB Plus FSK 420,FSK 250, Extra blade for the HKC 55 W32.TI 15, CXS 2.6 Ah version, RO 90 DX, PDC 18/4 plus DC UNI FF depth stop chuck,AD 3/8 square socket holder FF chuck, Centrotec Bits; -->Bit holder and bit selection BHS 65 CE TL 24x, ,Bradpoint DB WOOD CE SET ,Zobo (Forstner) D 15-35 CE-Zobo SET ,Masonary/stone bits DB STONE CE Set,Extender BV 150 CE, Countersink QLS D2-8 CE Hook turner HD D18, end centrotec<--.  TS 75 EBQ, PSC 420, OF 1010, RS 300 EQ, CTL Midi, MFT 3, Parf dogs x2pair +Bench dogs x2pair, FS 1080, FS 1900 .  will get Domino DF 700 XL,  CMS insert BS 120 Belt sander.

Offline Kodi Crescent

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Re: Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2016, 02:16 PM »
It may not be a good idea economically, but if given no other choice it may be the only option.

Offline PreferrablyWood

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Re: Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2016, 05:15 PM »
It may not be a good idea economically, but if given no other choice it may be the only option.
True enough, I'd say keep checking on the usual places for used gear.

some possible other routes

DIY version with a long in feed and out feed table.

Using a router for edge jointing with a long straight bit, I have a CMT 2 1/4 straight bit, which I can use on the OF 2200 in the CMS with the OF module.

Edge jointing with a tracksaw but does not work for short or smaller pieces though.

jointing with a hand plane on a bench..

Get a real jointer used..
RO 150, 850 HL E Planer rustic head standard head angle fence, MFS 400x2, MFS extensions MFS VB 700 x 1 MFS VB 1000 x 2 . CMS GE, sliding fence, VB and 2x VL extension tables, OF 2200, Accessory Set ZS OF 2200 M,36mm 5m antistatik hose, CMS OF+ CMS TS 75 insert modules. SYS-MFT Fixing-Set,  3.5m sleeved hose, Syslite duo, Sys 4 sort 3 x3, Sys Roll, Sys 1 Box x2 , classic Sys 3-Sort 4, classic Sys 3 Sort 6 x2, Sys Cart x3 Systainer 4 x2  as toolbox with selfmade inserts Systainer 5 as toolbox with insert.
Festool 18V HKC 55 Li 5.2 EB Plus FSK 420,FSK 250, Extra blade for the HKC 55 W32.TI 15, CXS 2.6 Ah version, RO 90 DX, PDC 18/4 plus DC UNI FF depth stop chuck,AD 3/8 square socket holder FF chuck, Centrotec Bits; -->Bit holder and bit selection BHS 65 CE TL 24x, ,Bradpoint DB WOOD CE SET ,Zobo (Forstner) D 15-35 CE-Zobo SET ,Masonary/stone bits DB STONE CE Set,Extender BV 150 CE, Countersink QLS D2-8 CE Hook turner HD D18, end centrotec<--.  TS 75 EBQ, PSC 420, OF 1010, RS 300 EQ, CTL Midi, MFT 3, Parf dogs x2pair +Bench dogs x2pair, FS 1080, FS 1900 .  will get Domino DF 700 XL,  CMS insert BS 120 Belt sander.

Offline mjh2157

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Re: Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2016, 11:10 AM »
Hi,

Mmtoolparts.com has one more  left.  Call them at +1 (877) 583-7278 and ask to speak to customer service.. I just ordered the other one they had.

Best Regards,
Matt

Offline ScotF

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Re: Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2016, 02:48 PM »
I think that a few dealers have them around if you look hard enough -- my local Woodcraft had one left and I was in a store in Boulder, CO in late October and they still had one left on the shelf.

Offline worldburger

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Re: Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)
« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2017, 09:16 AM »
I'm sorry i don't though your shop can easily work them out its only a handful of parts.

According to http://ekat.festool.com, you can find the schematic under Planing > SE-HL. Here's the parts list, quantities and prices in USD. You can order spare parts directly from Festool USA. Being a discontinued item, they may or may not have all of these.

Part No.DescriptionQtyPrice
715167Scale17.09
715146Bracket117.49
228547Cheese head screw M6 x 1060.91
774010Spring disc61.27
228566Square nut M680.91
612050Plate151.61
400598Screw M6 x 6011.27
200578Washer 6,4 mm10.91
228726Circlip11.24
200457Pendulum guard110.14
200460Torsion spring15.33
200458Axle14.2
200499Rotary knob27.54
200456Clamp17.74
200462Support166.76
200390Sleeve22.07
402875Cheese head screw M6 x 2010.91
715156Slip piece17.02
203806Raised-head screw M4 x 810.91
200762Spring disc10.91
200463Indicator17.54
772405Threaded pin M6 x 1010.91
436195Rotary knob20.91
200450Swiveling segment115.87
200461Stop129.81
440712Rotary knob M611.43
715148Bolt110.4
200454Holder125.55
440158Chain12.6

This is some creative thinking, S. Thanks.

Unfortunately, it nets to about $300, though, am I right?

Would you say this is still the only way to reasonably mount the 850 inverted? Any other ideas up that sleeve of yours?

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Re: Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2017, 05:30 PM »
@worldburger, the only other options I can think of are to look on the classifieds or ask one of the forums members on the other side of the pond to help you out.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2017, 10:35 PM »
I stopped at Woodcraft today to pick up some Dominos. While I was there I asked them if they would search to see if the HL 850 bench unit (485 017) was lingering in a dormant state in one of their branches/warehouses. They searched all Woodcraft stores in the US. The answer...NADA.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2017, 09:21 AM by Cheese »

Offline Coen

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Re: Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2017, 06:12 PM »
In the Netherlands I can still find multiple websites that list it as "stocked" with prices between ~ €105-125 incl 21% VAT, excl shipping.

But I wouldn't put any money on that stock indicator being accurate..