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Offline AxminsterTools

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How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« on: December 23, 2016, 04:28 AM »
Hello Everyone!

Before we introduce a new product from our UJK range, I think it's best that briefly introduce ourselves for those that don't know us.

As the username firmly suggests we are Axminster Tools & Machinery.

We are a family business built on a foundation of strong customer service values offering an extensive range of quality, value for money tools and machinery. Our premium service has been delivered for over 40 years by a team of friendly, efficient and knowledgeable staff.

Located in Devon in the beautiful South West of England Axminster Tools & Machinery has established itself as a market leader in the mail order tools and machinery industry offering a friendly and personal service to many thousands of customers ranging from trade professionals and businesses to amateur DIY and hobby enthusiasts. We predominantly distribute across the UK, EIRE and mainland Europe but can deliver to most countries throughout the world.

If you want to know more about us then please click this link... Axminster Tools & Machinery - About us

Anyway.. onto our new product, the UJK Technology Dog Rail Clip (Pair).

These simple looking spring clips firmly secure a Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs or other 20mm diameter dogs. The whole point of using an MFT table and Parf Dogs is to achieve complete accuracy. Even though guide rails have anti-slip strips on their undersides, in the presence of wood dust there is always the possibility the ‘anti-slipperiness’ may not be as sticky as intended. If the rail moves fractionally during the cut, the finished piece will not be as accurate as you wish. The body of the Dog Rail Clip fits into your rail’s T-slot. Slide the Dog Rail Clip into position, then clip the spring around the 20mm bench dogs ensuring the rail is tight against the dogs and guarantees a precise result every time. Supplied as a pack of 2, UJK Technology Dog Rail Clips are designed and made in the UK. International delivery available.

Again, if you want further information, including pictures, or to order then please click this link, UJK Technology Dog Rail Clips.

We would of course welcome any feedback or questions so please get in touch.

Many thanks for reading.



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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2016, 09:11 AM »


These will be welcome in my shop!

FYI, Axminster's knock-off screw type rail clamps fit Festool rails and work at least as well at about half the cost of the Festool/Bessy clamps.

Offline PreferrablyWood

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2016, 11:01 AM »
I'll take two sets of those! Nice idea.
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Offline jimbo51

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2016, 12:00 PM »
I looked at the Axminster site and it says that when you submit an international order they will get back to you within a day with shipping info and costs.

Maybe some enterprising US/Canadian company could do a bulk order and make these items available from a more local site.

Offline bobfog

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2016, 12:39 PM »
Probably the UK"s best tool supplier - welcome to the forum.

Offline squarecut

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2016, 01:16 PM »
I looked at the Axminster site and it says that when you submit an international order they will get back to you within a day with shipping info and costs.

Maybe some enterprising US/Canadian company could do a bulk order and make these items available from a more local site.

I have used Axminster several times and have found their response time to an international price & ship quote to be extremely timely. Their customer service is very good.
But I do agree with having a local source of some of their product line on this side of the pond, however that might prove to be not in their best interest.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2016, 01:23 PM by squarecut »
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Offline Gwerner

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2016, 03:58 AM »
Yep, I would definitely love a set or two of these. I use my homemade MFT in this manner all the time for crosscuts and these would be a great help.

Online Claimdude

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2016, 08:45 AM »
I ordered a pair the day they made this post. Submitted order and within 1 hour I had the response back detailing the shipping charges. The email included a special PayPal link to use. The total cost including shipping in US was just a little north of $15. This was my first time to order from them. Very easy!

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Offline TinyShop

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2017, 05:13 PM »
I, for one, would appreciate some user feedback concerning these rail clips. Are any of the folks who purchased them willing to post an update? If so, thanks, in advance.

Offline live4ever

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2017, 07:10 PM »
They do exactly what they're supposed to...hold the rail firmly to the Parf dogs.  I wonder over time whether the springiness of the clips will fatigue, but so far they are working well.  They are tight enough that you can actually elevate the rail on the dogs to slide a workpiece in and out from under the rail. 

Note that Hans has said TSO will offer these clips in the USA shortly. 
"What you have to do tomorrow, do today.  What you have to do today, do now."  - a wise grandfather who was clearly talking about purchasing Festools

Offline Svar

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2017, 07:36 PM »
They do exactly what they're supposed to...hold the rail firmly to the Parf dogs.  I wonder over time whether the springiness of the clips will fatigue, but so far they are working well.  They are tight enough that you can actually elevate the rail on the dogs to slide a workpiece in and out from under the rail. 
Note that Hans has said TSO will offer these clips in the USA shortly.
@live4ever Are Parf Dogs magnetic? Some stainless steels are magnetic, 416, for example. Strong magnet instead of clips might work better.

Offline RustE

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2017, 07:47 PM »
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Note that Hans has said TSO will offer these clips in the USA shortly.

That would be great.

I thought that maybe Lee Valley would get these too since they sell the PGS in the USA.

Offline live4ever

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2017, 08:16 PM »
They do exactly what they're supposed to...hold the rail firmly to the Parf dogs.  I wonder over time whether the springiness of the clips will fatigue, but so far they are working well.  They are tight enough that you can actually elevate the rail on the dogs to slide a workpiece in and out from under the rail. 
Note that Hans has said TSO will offer these clips in the USA shortly.
@live4ever Are Parf Dogs magnetic? Some stainless steels are magnetic, 416, for example. Strong magnet instead of clips might work better.

@Svar
Just tested my Parf dogs...not magnetic.  Interesting application though if someone wanted to develop it using magnetic dogs and matching magnetic rail clips ...might end up being too expensive though. 
"What you have to do tomorrow, do today.  What you have to do today, do now."  - a wise grandfather who was clearly talking about purchasing Festools

Offline Svar

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2017, 08:22 PM »
@live4ever Are Parf Dogs magnetic? Some stainless steels are magnetic, 416, for example. Strong magnet instead of clips might work better.
@Svar
Just tested my Parf dogs...not magnetic.  Interesting application though if someone wanted to develop it using magnetic dogs and matching magnetic rail clips ...might end up being too expensive though.
I use 416 stainless rods as tall bench dogs. A strong magnet placed inside the t-slot should hold the rail well. I need to test that theory.

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Re: How to firmly secure your Festool guide rail to Parf Dogs
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2017, 09:07 PM »
They do exactly what they're supposed to...hold the rail firmly to the Parf dogs.  I wonder over time whether the springiness of the clips will fatigue, but so far they are working well.  They are tight enough that you can actually elevate the rail on the dogs to slide a workpiece in and out from under the rail. 

Note that Hans has said TSO will offer these clips in the USA shortly.
@live4ever is correct - we're just waiting for our Tall Dogs to get through anodizing so we can put both items on our site to ship from stock. Spring Life is not an issue as you will see when we get a video up on the site and explain its use - as noted above - and why the spring life will not be an issue - primarily very low extension  and resulting low cycle fatigue. The trick is to slip the Clip OVER the Dog and not attempt to snap it on. To make it even easier our Tall Dogs include a short lead-in taper on top.
We'll explain also why this is better than a rare earth magnet.

Darned, - wish I had thought of that first  [wink]
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