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Offline Shane Holland

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Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« on: November 13, 2017, 04:22 PM »
Friendly reminder that today's the deadline to order this jig. Make your own MFT-style work surface with the 96mm on center 20mm hole grid just like the Festool MFT.

Scheduled to ship in Feb. 2018.

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 05:41 PM »
Hey Shane , does that template allow use of the festool 20mm boring bit #491072 ?

What size bushing would be required  ?

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 05:54 PM »
Hey Shane , does that template allow use of the festool 20mm boring bit #491072 ?

What size bushing would be required  ?

It includes two bushings, one for doing 20mm holes, one for doing 3/4” holes. Both are designed to be used with a 1/2” router bit.
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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 06:26 PM »
Hey Shane , does that template allow use of the festool 20mm boring bit #491072 ?
What size bushing would be required  ?
It includes two bushings, one for doing 20mm holes, one for doing 3/4” holes. Both are designed to be used with a 1/2” router bit.
So, the question boils down to what is the jig's hole size?
In order to use it with 20 mm boring bit one would need a bushing that fits tight in the hole. Looks about 40 mm or so to me.

In either case the bit and bushing must be perfectly coaxial for this to work. Otherwise the jig will be misaligned after re-positioning.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2017, 06:31 PM by Svar »

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 06:42 PM »
@Svar the bushings are included. Or maybe you’re just guessing on their diameter.
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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2017, 06:44 PM »
@Svar the bushings are included. Or maybe you’re just guessing on their diameter.
I realize they are included.
I'm guessing the diameter of holes in the plate, so it can be used with a third party bushing and a 20 mm boring (plunge) bit.

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 08:22 PM »
@Svar, unfortunately Woodpeckers is closed now and today is the last day to order. You can always order before tonight's deadline and if we get that info for you and it won't work out, you can cancel your order. But, if you don't order and miss the deadline, then there won't be another opportunity in the foreseeable future to get this item from Woodpeckers.

That said, I did some estimates in Photoshop based and it does indeed look to be about 40mm diameter holes (approximately at least). To be exact, I came up with 38.9mm just based on proportions.

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 08:44 PM »
Shane - I love you and the Tool Nut , but it's answers like these that make my skin crawl and give salesmen a bad name.

You didn't answer my question at all, simply repeated the marketing bullet points that are on the sell sheet and talked about in the video and on the websites.  On the surface it's like it was ignored entirely.  Perhaps I wasn't concise enough, but Svar understands what I'm driving at.

I want to know if this jig can be used with a 20mm boring bit - specifically Festool's part# 491072 ?   And , what size bushing / collar would be needed. It clearly is not included in the promo material, but  WP must have thought about it - no ?   I mean we have to provide our own bit anyway. 

Now, maybe it doesn't work.  And maybe you don't know the answer.  Both of which are reasonable and OK. But ignoring the question because might not shed the best light on a product's shortcoming (if that's the case) isn't the usual great service I'm used to from you. 

p.s.  I still love ya man [smile]


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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 08:54 PM »
@antss,

I wasn't intentionally ignoring or dodging your question. I thought I had answered your questions and didn't connect your dots. I was out running some errands and answered from my phone. At a glance, it seemed like you had missed the info about the bushings and which bit to use with them. So, apologies if it came across the wrong way.

As I've now said, I don't know the dimensions of the hole in the template. It was not published by Woodpeckers or provided in the information about the product. I took an educated guess. I would need them to answer that question.

I will see if I can get any info from the President of Woodpeckers if he answers late night emails and knows the answer.

For the record, I have no fear of saying when I don't know the answer to a question.  [smile] Thanks for the love. All good, buddy.

Shane
« Last Edit: November 13, 2017, 08:57 PM by Shane Holland »
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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 09:35 PM »
Like I said - I probably wasn't concise enough.

At least for phone sized multitasking text  [tongue]

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2017, 10:01 PM »
I need to order one of these fixtures. It’d be pretty slick for what I’m working on now.

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 12:36 PM »
@Svar @antss

I realize it's a little late at this point, but I just got a response from Woodpeckers.

The diameter of the holes in the jig are 1.4689 inches or 37.3mm.

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2017, 01:05 PM »
Thank you, Shane.
I wasn't going to buy. I just thought if the hole was sized to fit a standard bushing, or WP provided a tight fitting bushing for it, the system would be a little more versatile, i.e. allow for single plunge boring, that some might prefer.

Someone with a lathe could take a 1.5" bronze bushing and reduce it to fit. Even drill and sand paper could do the trick.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2017, 01:10 PM by Svar »

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 01:30 PM »
I just placed my order for this OTT on the Woodpeckers web site. Woodpeckers will usually accept orders for OTT offerings for 4-5 days after the deadline.

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2017, 01:48 PM »
I just placed my order for this OTT on the Woodpeckers web site. Woodpeckers will usually accept orders for OTT offerings for 4-5 days after the deadline.

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2017, 02:17 PM »
I just placed my order for this OTT on the Woodpeckers web site. Woodpeckers will usually accept orders for OTT offerings for 4-5 days after the deadline.

 [crying]

Sorry Shane...just letting anyone that missed the order deadline know that they still have a chance.  [tongue]

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2017, 04:03 PM »
Thanks Shane.

I guess that's the size that corresponds to making both a 20mm and 3/4 hole with a 1/2 router bit with standard bushings.  Clearly a lot of thought went into this. 

It's not for me because I don't believe moving the router around to clear out the hole is very efficient.  I'd have bitten if I could use a straight plunge bit in the setup.  Would have been easy enough to make the jig with a standard bushing that fits the jig holes and accepts a 20mm and a 3/4" plunge bit. 

I do look forward to Cheese's review though.

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Re: Last day to order Woodpeckers OneTIME DIY MFT Jig (US)
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2017, 04:13 PM »
It's not for me because I don't believe moving the router around to clear out the hole is very efficient. 
It takes a little more time, but no tearout at the bottom. I tried both ways. Even if you place it on a spoil board, boring bit cuts out a thin disk at the end of the plunge, then the disk starts spinning and burning. It takes good depth adjustment and plunging technique to avoid it. Better tolerance with just plunging though.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2017, 04:19 PM by Svar »