Author Topic: NEW! Festool Sys-Rock, AirStream Batteries/Charger + Domino RTA Connectors (US)  (Read 10264 times)

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Festool USA has announced the introduction of the new SYS-ROCK BR 10 BlueTooth Radio, new AirStream batteries/chargers and new Domino RTA-Style Connectors. Coming April 3rd!

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Here are some videos to show the new products in action...









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Please note the 3.1Ah batteries are not AirStream.
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Will the new batteries work on the old chargers?

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Will the new batteries work on the old chargers?

Yes, they are compatible, but you don't have the benefits of Airstream and since the older chargers are TCL 3 (3-amp) the charge times will be slower than the new TCL 6 (6-amp) and AirStream SCA 8 (8-amp).
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I am excited to hear people's experience with the connectors. They look intriguing.
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@Gordon Bombay, here are a couple of videos from our resident FOG expert from across the pond, @Peter Parfitt. He goes over the connectors in detail. Very good videos and worth the watch.



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Will the new batteries work on the old chargers?

Yes, they are compatible, but you don't have the benefits of Airstream and since the older chargers are TCL 3 (3-amp) the charge times will be slower than the new TCL 6 (6-amp).

Only the SCA 8 (8-amp) has the AIRSTREAM technology.
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@Gordon Bombay, here are a couple of videos from our resident FOG expert from across the pond, @Peter Parfitt. He goes over the connectors in detail. Very good videos and worth the watch.





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Hey, @Shane Holland  , you might just want to see/consider if you can tweak the links that appear after the batt video away from some non Festool brands?  [eek] [eek]

I realise this may be outside your control of UTube and that your company sells more brands than just Festool.  [big grin]

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@Untidy Shop, that unfortunately is in the control of the person/company that originally posted the video. They can control that. I cannot.
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@Shane Holland do you guys have inventory yet?  I know you can't sell before the release date.

Hoping to fit the Airstream chargers and batteries in my existing TSC 55 Systainer?

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@Samo, no inventory but I can find out for sure. The batteries should fit I think. The charger likely will not. I know there will be new inserts for the AirStream cordless tools.

@Samo, there are no compatibility issues with using the new batteries on your existing 18v tools, which I have confirmed. But it sounds like you will need a new Systainer insert for the batteries and/or new charger to fit. We are checking with Festool to get part numbers so we can stock them for our customers who want to upgrade.

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@Samo, no inventory but I can find out for sure. The batteries should fit I think. The charger likely will not. I know there will be new inserts for the AirStream cordless tools.

Thanks Shane,

Bigger battery looks like a nice upgrade as well.  Wondering if it will work with cordless circular saw?

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Shane,

I may have missed it in the video... do you know if the SysRock will charge your phone will plugged into it (and while the SysRock is plugged into the power source)?

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Bigger battery looks like a nice upgrade as well.  Wondering if it will work with cordless circular saw?

@Samo, yes, shouldn't be a problem using higher capacity batteries on the TSC and HKC.


I may have missed it in the video... do you know if the SysRock will charge your phone will plugged into it (and while the SysRock is plugged into the power source)?

@Chance B, yes, I believe it will charge while connected but let me get confirmation.
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@TylerC @Shane Holland will the new Cordless tools come with Airstream batteries and charger?  Or will they be only accessories?

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@TylerC @Shane Holland will the new Cordless tools come with Airstream batteries and charger?  Or will they be only accessories?

@Tyler Ernsberger, there will be new versions of all of the cordless tools that will include AirStream chargers and the AS 5.2Ah battery.
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@Chance B - See this page - https://www.festool.com/Products/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?pid=200183

As I read it, these do not have USB out, so I doubt they will charge a connected phone.  Probably come with a mini-out cable similar to a headphone jack on your phone for wired connection.

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@TylerC @Shane Holland will the new Cordless tools come with Airstream batteries and charger?  Or will they be only accessories?

@Tyler Ernsberger, there will be new versions of all of the cordless tools that will include AirStream chargers and the AS 5.2Ah battery.

Based on availability at individual dealers, cordless tools will available with either Airstream or the traditional batteries for the time being. (Obviously, excluding non-18-volt tools, which won't have an Airstream option.)

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@Tyler Ernsberger, here's a link to the new cordless tools with Airstream chargers and batteries included.

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@Tyler Ernsberger, here's a link to the new cordless tools with Airstream chargers and batteries included.

Festool AirStream Cordless Tools

@Shane Holland thanks

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To answer an earlier question, the SCA 8 and TCL 6 are a different size to the TCL 3 so will not fit in existing Systainer inserts.
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Shane,

I may have missed it in the video... do you know if the SysRock will charge your phone will plugged into it (and while the SysRock is plugged into the power source)?


Just to confirm the dab radio will charge phones over the USB. I picked one up last weekend at a tool show- first to enter the country the rep said. So far been happy with it. The dab and phone charging capabilities is worth the upgrade in my opinion.

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Shane,

I may have missed it in the video... do you know if the SysRock will charge your phone will plugged into it (and while the SysRock is plugged into the power source)?


Just to confirm the dab radio will charge phones over the USB. I picked one up last weekend at a tool show- first to enter the country the rep said. So far been happy with it. The dab and phone charging capabilities is worth the upgrade in my opinion.

Just to be clear, the *new* DAB+ version of the SYSROCK BR 10 available in Europe can charge a mobile device via an integrated USB port. The non-DAB+ version of the BR 10 (which I believe is what will be sold in the US) does not have this capability.
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Shane,

I may have missed it in the video... do you know if the SysRock will charge your phone will plugged into it (and while the SysRock is plugged into the power source)?


Just to confirm the dab radio will charge phones over the USB. I picked one up last weekend at a tool show- first to enter the country the rep said. So far been happy with it. The dab and phone charging capabilities is worth the upgrade in my opinion.

Just to be clear, the *new* DAB+ version of the SYSROCK BR 10 available in Europe can charge a mobile device via an integrated USB port. The non-DAB+ version of the BR 10 (which I believe is what will be sold in the US) does not have this capability.

That's correct. The version sold in NA is SYSROCK BR 10. Only the SYSROCK BR 10 DAB+ has the integrated USB interface.

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@Chance B, it would seem no USB port on the U.S. version of the Sys-Rock. Thanks for the assist, @TylerC and @GarryMartin.

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Please note that the prices have increased slightly on some of the cordless tools that will now have AirStream included. Just sharing info so everyone can make the best purchasing decision.  [wink]
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hi shane! does the sysroc come with a built in battery like the syslite? not sure if that was covered.
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hi shane! does the sysroc come with a built in battery like the syslite? not sure if that was covered.

@#Tee, good question. No internal battery. You can power it with AC power or with an external Festool battery pack.
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thanks shane, maybe in the future they can make a sys roc lite, led flash light built in speaker would be the ultimate :), im sad theres no usb support for the us version :(
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hi shane! does the sysroc come with a built in battery like the syslite? not sure if that was covered.

@#Tee, good question. No internal battery. You can power it with AC power or with an external Festool battery pack.

Here's a look at the backside. With the AC power, you have a hanging hook. You can just slide that part off and replace it with a battery pack.

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thanks shane, maybe in the future they can make a sys roc lite, led flash light built in speaker would be the ultimate :), im sad theres no usb support for the us version :(

There you go tee!!

Kind of like a centrotec setup for the battery platform. Battery in back, lights with control board and switch, USB charging plate, radio interface, all sorts of things!

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The SysRock does not have a built in battery like the KAL II SysLite?  If not, that's a problem.  You can't use the hook when an auxiliary battery is in place so you are forced to use the AC adapter cord anytime the hook is used?  That really limits when you can use the hook. 

And the Syslite Duo does not have a standard tripod socket or an on/off switch but the SysRock and SysLite do?  Quirky design decisions.  A little common sense, please.
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And the Syslite Duo does not have a standard tripod socket...
Really? Is it a non-standard thread, or is it also non-standard in some other awkward way?
That does seem a bit of an odd thing to do. I'd considered a Duo, but I'd want to be able to attach it to all sorts of combinations of photographic tripods, booms and contraptions that I already have access to.

With regard to an on/off switch for the Duo, is there any reason - apart from the feeling that perhaps one shouldn't have to, and voiding any warranty of course - one could not (or should not) introduce an in-line switch into the cable?

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The SysRock does not have a built in battery like the KAL II SysLite?  If not, that's a problem.  You can't use the hook when an auxiliary battery is in place so you are forced to use the AC adapter cord anytime the hook is used?  That really limits when you can use the hook. 

And the Syslite Duo does not have a standard tripod socket or an on/off switch but the SysRock and SysLite do?  Quirky design decisions.  A little common sense, please.

Nope, no internal battery for the Sys-Rock. You can use AC power or a Festool flat pack battery.

And, the DUO does not have a standard thread/socket. Correct.
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The SysRock does not have a built in battery like the KAL II SysLite?  If not, that's a problem.  You can't use the hook when an auxiliary battery is in place so you are forced to use the AC adapter cord anytime the hook is used?  That really limits when you can use the hook. 

And the Syslite Duo does not have a standard tripod socket or an on/off switch but the SysRock and SysLite do?  Quirky design decisions.  A little common sense, please.

Nope, no internal battery for the Sys-Rock. You can use AC power or a Festool flat pack battery.

And, the DUO does not have a standard thread/socket. Correct.

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One last question about the SYS-ROCK. Does it come with a DC adapter or do I have to purchase a separate one? Either generic or Festool? Thanks!

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One last question about the SYS-ROCK. Does it come with a DC adapter or do I have to purchase a separate one? Either generic or Festool? Thanks!

Let me verify, but I do not believe it comes with an auto adapter. It does come with a plug for use with AC power.
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Thanks Shane, I meant AC...  [embarassed]

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Thanks Shane, I meant AC...  [embarassed]

Yes, AC adapter included.

Also confirmed no auto adapter. The SysRock is 18v internally and auto is usualy 12v so not compatible.
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thanks shane, maybe in the future they can make a sys roc lite, led flash light built in speaker would be the ultimate :), im sad theres no usb support for the us version :(
It's not really a U.S. version it's just the original sysrock that we've had here for a year or more. In sure in a years time you'll have the new version we've just got. That's if you use DAB in the States I don't know ??

Mines arriving tomorrow

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Awesome @Shane ! I just ordered one from you guys  [smile]

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thanks shane, maybe in the future they can make a sys roc lite, led flash light built in speaker would be the ultimate :), im sad theres no usb support for the us version :(
It's not really a U.S. version it's just the original sysrock that we've had here for a year or more. In sure in a years time you'll have the new version we've just got. That's if you use DAB in the States I don't know ??

Mines arriving tomorrow

We finally implemented chip readers for our credit cards in 2016. 
So, yeah, the only DAB we do is a drug or a dance. 😂

Honestly, we do have something similar, HD Radio.  But no end user, and I mean no end user, utilises it.  Youngsters stream on their phones.  Elders either stick to analog or pay a premium for a subscription satellite service. 

 


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Really? Is it a non-standard thread, or is it also non-standard in some other awkward way?

See http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tool-reviews/syslite-duo-with-tripod/ for some great, hi-res photos.
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Thank you Gerry; I'd missed that earlier thread re. the Duo.

The baseplate opens up some possibilities - as @PreferrablyWood was planning - especially as in stock form it appears the Duo cannot be tilted on its own tripod; I would like sometimes to be able to 'bounce' the light off of a ceiling.

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thanks shane, maybe in the future they can make a sys roc lite, led flash light built in speaker would be the ultimate :), im sad theres no usb support for the us version :(
It's not really a U.S. version it's just the original sysrock that we've had here for a year or more. In sure in a years time you'll have the new version we've just got. That's if you use DAB in the States I don't know ??

Mines arriving tomorrow

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Can someone clarify something for me please.  I am ready to buy the HKC plus FSK today, but am wondering if it will be available with Airstream batteries early April? 

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Can someone clarify something for me please.  I am ready to buy the HKC plus FSK today, but am wondering if it will be available with Airstream batteries early April?

Yes, there will be versions of the HKC 55 with Airstream. Here are the product number:

HKC Basic: 201359
HKC Plus:    201371
HKC Set-FSK: 201374

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We have all of the AirStream cordless tools on our website for preorder.

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Thank you Gerry; I'd missed that earlier thread re. the Duo.

The baseplate opens up some possibilities - as @PreferrablyWood was planning - especially as in stock form it appears the Duo cannot be tilted on its own tripod; I would like sometimes to be able to 'bounce' the light off of a ceiling.
. Hah, I posted this exact request in the Festool Wish section for a modified tri-pod that would allow just this.  I knew going in when buying my Duo about the mounting and non-Tilting , but hope someone comes up with a clever mod for the Tilt portion.
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ICYMI, new Festool wares coming in two weeks.

Pre-order yours now from The Tool Nut!  [thumbs up]

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Hey, can someone confirm the clip location and type for the new air batteries? Referring to the PDC set being offered. Thanks.

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Hey, can someone confirm the clip location and type for the new air batteries? Referring to the PDC set being offered. Thanks.

@escan, welcome to the forum.

The AirStream batteries do not appear to feature a belt clip.

However, the PDC has an integrated belt clip on it. You can see them in Peter's review video at the 14:30 mark.

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Shane,

I may have missed it in the video... do you know if the SysRock will charge your phone will plugged into it (and while the SysRock is plugged into the power source)?


Just to confirm the dab radio will charge phones over the USB. I picked one up last weekend at a tool show- first to enter the country the rep said. So far been happy with it. The dab and phone charging capabilities is worth the upgrade in my opinion.

Just to be clear, the *new* DAB+ version of the SYSROCK BR 10 available in Europe can charge a mobile device via an integrated USB port. The non-DAB+ version of the BR 10 (which I believe is what will be sold in the US) does not have this capability.

That's correct. The version sold in NA is SYSROCK BR 10. Only the SYSROCK BR 10 DAB+ has the integrated USB interface.

So much for buying one of these.
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Friendly reminder!

The new Sys-Rock radio, AirStream charger and batteries, and Domino connectors begin shipping on Monday.

Please note that we just learned from Festool that some of the updated cordless tools, which will now include Airstream batteries and charger, will be delayed by about a week. The expected ship date for these are noted on our website. This does not affect the Airstream batteries and chargers themselves.


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Friendly reminder, New wares ship on Monday.
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