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« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2019, 11:31 PM »
Just got a notification from TSO that they will be making available a drill jig that will allow early purchasers of their squares to drill and tap the square to accept the Parallel Guide. Thanks TSO, great customer service.

https://tsoproducts.com/tso-products-guide-rail-squares/grs-16-series-upgrade-drill-fixture?mc_cid=4a255c8524&mc_eid=fe336b37dd

Tom

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« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2019, 08:33 AM »
Just got a notification from TSO that they will be making available a drill jig that will allow early purchasers of their squares to drill and tap the square to accept the Parallel Guide. Thanks TSO, great customer service.

https://tsoproducts.com/tso-products-guide-rail-squares/grs-16-series-upgrade-drill-fixture?mc_cid=4a255c8524&mc_eid=fe336b37dd

Tom

I received the same email yesterday. While mine is not an older one (so I don't have a need for it), I think it's amazing that @TSO Products didn't forget about their early adopters of their products. Definitely speaks volumes about them.

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« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2019, 07:21 PM »
all you subscribers to the TSO INSIDER will get a very detailed description with pictures of the TSO Parallel Guide System . The mail is programmed to go from east to west starting at the International date line - look for it around dinner time in the US on Sunday.

Thanks for all the questions and comments. Helps a lot in knowing what we need to address - really!
Pricing will go up on our website right after the TSO INSIDER announcement of availability has gone out.

Hans and Eric

Hi Hans

Can you clarify what the left hand and right hand sets are used for? This will help in making the correct selection of which set to order.

Tariq

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« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2019, 08:29 PM »
If you have the GRS you will need the R system. If you have the GRS PE you can use either the R or L system.

I have used the system L/R and both. If we have a lot of 96" long cuts we do use the L & R. If it's just one or two cuts we'll use a single arm.

Tom

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« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2019, 08:29 PM »
all you subscribers to the TSO INSIDER will get a very detailed description with pictures of the TSO Parallel Guide System . The mail is programmed to go from east to west starting at the International date line - look for it around dinner time in the US on Sunday.

Thanks for all the questions and comments. Helps a lot in knowing what we need to address - really!
Pricing will go up on our website right after the TSO INSIDER announcement of availability has gone out.

Hans and Eric

Hi Hans

Can you clarify what the left hand and right hand sets are used for? This will help in making the correct selection of which set to order.

Tariq

@tazprime38 - at the latest on Monday  21st January you along with all the other subscribers to the TSO INSIDER will receive a very detailed description of the TPG-30 with pricing to be announced next month when we start shipping. I know you've been waiting - and waiting [tongue] -thank you for your continuing interest and patience.

Hans
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« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2019, 07:38 PM »
Anyone got their TSO Insider with info? Patiently waiting :)

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« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2019, 07:51 PM »
Anyone got their TSO Insider with info? Patiently waiting :)

No not yet. I keep checking my emails lol.😂 but nothing yet.

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« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2019, 08:11 PM »
Got mine [big grin]

Signed up to purchase the $6 jig to retrofit my older TSO units.

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« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2019, 08:17 PM »
Not sure if this is insider info. or not (from Google). It is to me because I no longer have the TS75 [tongue] [tongue]

https://tsoproducts.com/tso-products-guide-rail-squares/tpg-30-parallel-guide/

« Last Edit: January 22, 2019, 08:20 PM by ChuckM »

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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2019, 08:51 PM »
Hans,

From reading the write-up, it appears that the cut length will be limited to 30". As I have a system for making the initial rip to width in the sheet, my interest in the guide was for making repeatable length cuts after ripping the material to width. I see the reason for fixing the length of the arm so it can be fitted in a Systainer, but a maximum length of 30" is a little restrictive.

Tom

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« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2019, 09:01 PM »
May be they will have the TPG-50 version, etc.?

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« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2019, 09:18 PM »
Pretty sure I have a 51" cut capable as a prototype.

Tom

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« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2019, 09:32 PM »
One of the bullet points on the page linked to above says:

-T-track length choice based- on full sheet yield width: multiples of 11.75” and 15.75”

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« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2019, 10:16 PM »
Hello FOGgers - tomorrow I will respond to every open posted REPLY Starting with # 35.
thansk for all your comments and understandable question.
Trivia for you all: THE TSO Paralllel Guide was originally called TPG-48. As we worked with the prototypes we  could not see any practical application requiring more than 30 inches. So tomorrow, give us specific examples why a cutting width of 30 inches does not allow required practical rip cut widths to be made?
what are you building that requires panels wider than 30"??
FESTOOL PG has shorter rip cut capacity and we did not see a storm or protest that this established product does not cut wide enough.

More tomorrow. good night now

Hans
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« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2019, 10:35 PM »
Hans,

I believe some are considering the 48-50" range for matched cross cuts.

Tom

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« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2019, 11:38 PM »
Hi Hans,

     Any suggestions for finding the TSO insider within my inbox? It seems some members have received there's however I have not. I tried signing up another email address I had, still no luck!

Thanks

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« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2019, 12:24 AM »
     Any suggestions for finding the TSO insider within my inbox? It seems some members have received there's however I have not. I tried signing up another email address I had, still no luck!

Did you check your junk mail?

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« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2019, 12:28 AM »
I am not getting my insider e-mails. Thoughts?

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« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2019, 01:53 AM »
I signed up in advance and haven't heard a peep as yet. I've been checking my spam folder religiously too.

I'd love to hear (and see if possible) about the narrow ripping side of things. I gather there are rods similar to the Woodpecker version but I'd like too know more. In particular, the minimum thickness of stock you can work with while keeping the rail flat and without having to shim under the stock. The Rip Dogs guides I have use Incra track which is about 13mm high going under the track... and that makes narrow rips of thinner material a "creative process".

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« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2019, 06:12 AM »
Well Hans and Eric, some cabinets are tall. So some panels are 24” +/- and of any height ie vertical orientation. I understand there are limitations to this type of system and cannot truly replace a sliding table saw but you asked.

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« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2019, 08:51 AM »
what are you building that requires panels wider than 30"??
stuff. We are making stuff. And stuff is every time bigger than expected. So we need bigger stuff to deal with it. This is the story of business.  [big grin] ;)
FESTOOL PG has shorter rip cut capacity and we did not see a storm or protest that this established product does not cut wide enough.
So why make a Festool alternative if it is to do the same ?

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« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2019, 09:40 AM »
Well Hans and Eric, some cabinets are tall. So some panels are 24” +/- and of any height ie vertical orientation. I understand there are limitations to this type of system and cannot truly replace a sliding table saw but you asked.

24” is six inches less than the designed capacity.
The other direction is limited only by the guide rail length.

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« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2019, 09:57 AM »
what are you building that requires panels wider than 30"??

Full sized fridge depth cabinets as opposed to buying a small cabinet depth fridge
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« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2019, 10:16 AM »
what are you building that requires panels wider than 30"??

Full sized fridge depth cabinets as opposed to buying a small cabinet depth fridge

How big is full size?

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« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2019, 10:17 AM »
I haven't gotten the email either, even in Junk.

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« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2019, 11:14 AM »
what are you building that requires panels wider than 30"??

Full sized fridge depth cabinets as opposed to buying a small cabinet depth fridge

How big is full size?

Exceeding 30 cu ft. After looking at some models at local stores I am planning to build my fridge cabinet to about 32-34” deep (with adjacent pantry the same depth) so these large fridges have plenty of air space in back and aren’t poking so far out.
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« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2019, 12:21 PM »
to all who are missing TSO INSIDER mailing via MailChimp:
if you have not received the expected TSO INSIDER, the quickest and more certain way is to email us info@tsoproducts.com
subject line:
"request TSO INSIDER by email"

Hans
PS: Eric is working on a method for archiving current and past issues on our website but needs to resolve technical difficulties to make it happen.
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« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2019, 01:32 PM »
  @tomp @ChuckM @tjbnwi @RobBob  @glass1 @lerabotperche  @Michael Kellough @Paul G

TPG-50 coming! – we hear you [big grin]
We will make a 50 inch cutting T-Track width version available as a stand-alone SKU for those who need it. Thanks for the examples you had in mind: "Refrigerator cabinet".
We’re producing the extrusions in heat-treated 20 ft + length before all the secondary operations. So the lengths we offer are limited only by practical commerce considerations such as shipping cost – just like the extra long guide rails which need to $hip by LTL truck line. For everyday needs it pays  to keep things under 48 inch max. shipping length to avoid UPS/FedEx length surcharges kicking in at that point. Beyond that: whatever you’re willing to pay for.

Don’t laugh: one of our BETA Testers, Duane H., early on needed a super length track for cross-cutting-to-matched-length paneling boards for a high-end auto dealership interior. The GRS-16 helped him get perfect square and equal length cross cuts. So yes, there are extremes which can, on some projects, justify extreme tools. We will keep a few full length 20 ft extrusions back for just such one-off requirements – seriously, only at TSO  [smile]

Hans
PS: look for another Post addressing Narrow Stock questions
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« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2019, 01:52 PM »

Snip.

We will keep a few full length 20 ft extrusions back for just such one-off requirements – seriously, only at TSO  [smile]

Hans
PS: look for another Post addressing Narrow Stock questions

Seriously, the best entrepreneurial spirit on display!

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« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2019, 02:21 PM »
TPG-30 / TPG-50 Narrow Stock capability

@Roachmill @tazprime @dr.r.lam and others remind us to point out that not only do we offer a Narrow Stock capability, but one of the Design Objective we overlooked to mention was that we are able to handle narrow stock as thin as ¼ inch / 6mm material!

For Narrow Stock ripping both RIGHT Hand and LEFT Hand sets are needed just like all other parallel guide systems on the market.

Hans
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