Author Topic: New Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool Variable Router Jig / MFS (US) (Read 13263 times)

Shane Holland · « **on:** November 28, 2017, 12:08 AM »

Ok, guys... I know many of you have been wanting the MFS since it was discontinued. Well, now there's an option! The new Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool Variable Router Jig has many of the same capabilities and features as the Festool MFS, as well as improvements.

Order deadline December 18th. Expected to ship in April 2018.

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Shane Holland · « **Reply #1 on:** November 28, 2017, 09:23 AM »

In case you missed it when this was posted late last night...

Welshdog · « **Reply #2 on:** November 28, 2017, 04:28 PM »

Looks like a decent substitute for the MFS. Just might be adding this to my Xmas list.
Wifey will buy me anything - that's how I got most of my Festool gear.

ben_r_ · « **Reply #3 on:** November 28, 2017, 04:41 PM »

Yeaaaa..... I might be ordering this one. Trying to decide if Id ever have a need for any of the extensions pieces though.

Shane Holland · « **Reply #4 on:** November 28, 2017, 05:45 PM »

Quote from: Welshdog on November 28, 2017, 04:28 PM

Looks like a decent substitute for the MFS. Just might be adding this to my Xmas list.
Wifey will buy me anything - that's how I got most of my Festool gear.

Sounds like a keeper.

rvieceli · « **Reply #5 on:** November 28, 2017, 05:50 PM »

@Shane Holland

Hey Shane have you seen these things or can you get some more info please?

In the video I only see a Metric scale, my assumption is the imperial scale is on the reverse side. Right?

On the slots for the perpendicular portion of the tightening mechanism (the part closest to the bolt head), do those slots go all the way through the extrusion?

It would appear that Woodpecker is farming out most of the production for these to GSH in Strongville. Is that correct? I assume that Woodpecker might etch the scales since they are set up for it. Any insight?

Thanks

Ron

Shane Holland · « **Reply #6 on:** November 28, 2017, 06:58 PM »

@rvieceli,

Hey, Ron. Thanks for the questions. Unfortunately, Woodpecjers does not send us a sample, so I would need to rely on the information provided along with the video and photos. Otherwise, I will gladly also reach out to Woodpeckers for answers to your questions.

I can see in the photos that there are metric scales on one side and imperial on the other. Also, I can clearly see that the slots do not go all the way through.

I don't have any information on where Woodpeckers sources components and I doubt they would share that information. I do know that they have full production capabilities in-house, but I suspect they got the extrusions from somewhere and milled and laser engraved them.

High resolution images attached for those interested.

Let me know if you need me to reach out to WP for further clarification on anything.

Thanks,
Shane

rvieceli · « **Reply #7 on:** November 28, 2017, 07:04 PM »

Thanks Shane

amt · « **Reply #8 on:** November 28, 2017, 08:02 PM »

Looks like a nice system, except the clamping solution. They couldn't manage to get the f-clamp to slide in the slot in the extrusion? If it can't then it's a botched design.

Svar · « **Reply #9 on:** November 28, 2017, 08:22 PM »

Quote from: amt on November 28, 2017, 08:02 PM

Looks like a nice system, except the clamping solution. They couldn't manage to get the f-clamp to slide in the slot in the extrusion? If it can't then it's a botched design.

Some f-clamps fit into slots, others may require just a bit of grinding on the sides. I have a pair of Bessey rail clamps, which fit as is.

Shane Holland · « **Reply #10 on:** November 28, 2017, 08:24 PM »

Mafell clamps are quite thin...

https://www.toolnut.com/mafell-205399-f-style-guide-rail-clamps-2-pack.html

ben_r_ · « **Reply #11 on:** November 28, 2017, 08:54 PM »

Quote from: amt on November 28, 2017, 08:02 PM

Looks like a nice system, except the clamping solution. They couldn't manage to get the f-clamp to slide in the slot in the extrusion? If it can't then it's a botched design.

They are trying to repurpose an existing design. The aluminum extrusions are not new ones, just modified from an existing rail they already sell.

JD2720 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 28, 2017, 08:55 PM »

Is Tool Nut going to sell the 48" & 60" tracks also? I do not see them listed.

My mistake.
After looking at the Woodpecker site again. I see the 48" & 60" are standard Super Track.

ben_r_ · « **Reply #13 on:** November 28, 2017, 09:00 PM »

Quote from: JD2720 on November 28, 2017, 08:55 PM

Is Tool Nut going to sell the 48" & 60" tracks also? I do not see them listed.

My mistake.
After looking at the Woodpecker site again. I see the 48" & 60" are standard Super Track.

But dont they have the cuts in them to accept the OTTs mounting blocks/bolts?

greg mann · « **Reply #14 on:** November 28, 2017, 09:44 PM »

A slotted extrusion from the kit could latch onto the super track but no extrusion could be attached to the end of a super track, unless the slots were added to it. In other words one way but not the reverse. That said, a simple jig would make the slot milling into a super track easy with a router. I suppose you could use the Variable Router Jig itself set up for the slot milling.

It is just plain stupid to not make this a standard item, especially with the mfs no longer available.

ben_r_ · « **Reply #15 on:** November 28, 2017, 09:49 PM »

Quote from: greg mann on November 28, 2017, 09:44 PM

It is just plain stupid to not make this a standard item, especially with the mfs no longer available.

Seriously.

HarveyWildes · « **Reply #16 on:** November 28, 2017, 10:45 PM »

Quote from: ben_r_ on November 28, 2017, 09:00 PM

Quote from: JD2720 on November 28, 2017, 08:55 PM
Is Tool Nut going to sell the 48" & 60" tracks also? I do not see them listed.

My mistake.
After looking at the Woodpecker site again. I see the 48" & 60" are standard Super Track.
But dont they have the cuts in them to accept the OTTs mounting blocks/bolts?

@Shane Holland (or someone) looks like a business opportunity to me

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Steven Owen · « **Reply #17 on:** November 28, 2017, 11:08 PM »

Quote from: ben_r_ on November 28, 2017, 09:49 PM

Quote from: greg mann on November 28, 2017, 09:44 PM
It is just plain stupid to not make this a standard item, especially with the mfs no longer available.
Seriously.

Given the number of sheer number of people that make cutting boards with inlay wells and inlays on drawer faces, it a bizarre decsion to make it an OTT.

JD2720 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 29, 2017, 08:21 AM »

After looking closely at the videos, it looks like by making a simple template for the router, The slots could be easily be cut in the super tracks. That also opens up the option of making the tracks any length.

Taking that into account, this may be the first onetime tool I have purchased in many years. I have a complete Festool MFS, but this setup looks like it is a lot easier to setup. Plus the option of making custom length tracks.

Shane Holland · « **Reply #19 on:** November 29, 2017, 04:24 PM »

All, a new option has been added with longer profiles. The new kit will come with 18 x 32" profiles.

https://www.toolnut.com/hand-tools/measuring/woodpeckers-onetime-tools/woodpeckers-onetime-tool-variable-router-jig-18-x-32-mfs.html

jpmeunier · « **Reply #20 on:** November 29, 2017, 04:53 PM »

Quote from: Shane Holland on November 29, 2017, 04:24 PM

All, a new option has been added with longer profiles. The new kit will come with 18 x 32" profiles.

https://www.toolnut.com/hand-tools/measuring/woodpeckers-onetime-tools/woodpeckers-onetime-tool-variable-router-jig-18-x-32-mfs.html

Awesome, should I order now or wait for more to be added

ben_r_ · « **Reply #21 on:** November 29, 2017, 09:18 PM »

Quote from: jpmeunier on November 29, 2017, 04:53 PM

Quote from: Shane Holland on November 29, 2017, 04:24 PM
All, a new option has been added with longer profiles. The new kit will come with 18 x 32" profiles.

https://www.toolnut.com/hand-tools/measuring/woodpeckers-onetime-tools/woodpeckers-onetime-tool-variable-router-jig-18-x-32-mfs.html

Awesome, should I order now or wait for more to be added

Ill be waiting. Really no reason to "get in early". Just get in before the deadline, then wait your six months.

Shane Holland · « **Reply #22 on:** November 29, 2017, 09:21 PM »

If you guys are interested in some other Frankensteined together kit, let me know your thoughts. I can pitch it to Woodpeckers and see what they say. I communicate regularly with the guy that runs the show there, El Presidente.

ScoFF · « **Reply #23 on:** November 29, 2017, 11:00 PM »

So much cheaper than buying the Festool ones imported from eBay Germany. Also the mfs700 longest rail is only 27" so the Woodpecker 32" is even better. Hopefully the set screws won't strip as easy.
I'll be getting the 18x32 along with a pair of 32" rails.

JD2720 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 30, 2017, 05:02 AM »

Quote from: Shane Holland on November 29, 2017, 09:21 PM

If you guys are interested in some other Frankensteined together kit, let me know your thoughts. I can pitch it to Woodpeckers and see what they say. I communicate regularly with the guy that runs the show there, El Presidente.

Since this is a limited run, why not include the 48" & 60" tracks with markings & slots?

Cheese · « **Reply #25 on:** November 30, 2017, 08:39 AM »

Quote from: JD2720 on November 30, 2017, 05:02 AM

Since this is a limited run, why not include the 48" & 60" tracks with markings & slots?

I agree with this idea 100%.

This would be a lot more elegant solution.

One of the big disappointments with the 2000mm MFS rails is that they are not laser marked.

This is one of the reasons I contacted Woodpeckers to try to figure out how the 48" & 60" Super tracks are being integrated into the VRJ. The 18" & 32" rails are a refined aspect of the VRJ. The 48" & 60" rails seem to be just afterthoughts.

See reply 22.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/woodpeckers-new-one-time-tool-mfs-clone/msg530552/?topicseen#msg530552

jpmeunier · « **Reply #26 on:** November 30, 2017, 10:00 AM »

Sounds like a kit with (2) 18, (2) 32, (2) 48, and (2) 60. Also don't make them a OTT.

HarveyWildes · « **Reply #27 on:** November 30, 2017, 10:32 AM »

Couldn't resist the 18-32 combo...

Shane Holland · « **Reply #28 on:** November 30, 2017, 11:19 AM »

So, Woodpeckers said they could probably do longer extrusions, *but* they would not be marked with scales. Seems like it wouldn't be an ideal solution.

mwildt · « **Reply #29 on:** November 30, 2017, 11:24 AM »

Probably don't have a laser big enough to make the markings, which is fair I guess.