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Offline Dovetail65

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Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« on: March 30, 2018, 09:39 AM »
https://festools-online.com/500276-festool-11-1-2-ft-suction-hose-d27-22x3-5m.html

Just a heads up.

If this has been posted I apologize, but for 125.00 you cant go wrong. Even if you tool the sleeve off, a cord, a case and an old style hose for 125.00? It's well worth it. I only see this price at one place so far.
The one who says it can't be done should avoid interrupting the person doing it.

Offline dicktill

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2018, 10:24 AM »
Thanks Dovetail.

Does this have the old or the new hose end?

Regards, Dick

Offline nvalinski

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2018, 10:54 AM »
Maybe early, but do people have thoughts on this one vs. the new braided hose? Braided hose seems nicer as a hose, but the integrated cord is nice too. Seems odd to not to have something in the middle yet.

Offline c_dwyer

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2018, 12:26 PM »
Yes, thank you @Dovetail65 !

Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2018, 12:37 PM »
Mine had the old end. The new hoses are better of course, but 125 for a cord, a, case and a hose? It's a no brainer for me if nothing more than backups. I personally dont like the fabric cover for the hose in this kit, I may not even use it.
The one who says it can't be done should avoid interrupting the person doing it.

Offline RKA

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2018, 01:02 PM »
One thing to bear in mind, it's a 22mm hose at the tool end, so it's ideally suited for sanders and less so for saws, routers, planers.  The domino XL might be questionable (I don't really know).  It's certainly a good price, but if you're looking for airflow, the newer hose (500677 - $130) is smoother on the inside and 27mm all the way through at the tool end and 32mm at the vac side.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2018, 04:00 PM by RKA »
-Raj

Offline dicktill

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2018, 01:12 PM »
Mine had the old end. The new hoses are better of course, but 125 for a cord, a, case and a hose? It's a no brainer for me if nothing more than backups. I personally dont like the fabric cover for the hose in this kit, I may not even use it.

Thanks; ordered one!

Offline T. Ernsberger

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2018, 04:36 PM »
I’ve had my sleeved hose since it was released.  I would rather have a sleeved hose with the cord in the fabric vs the new hose when hooked to a tool.  With the older type of sleeved hose having the hose and cord in one is awesome.  I actually just bought two more. I’ve had no issues using it with my Domino 700 or MT55 or TS75. Only issue I have is when using it with the 1400 router,  it works awesome with everything else.  Plus I prefer this hose bc it still has the older style hose end which I prefer.  The new hose ends are garbage. 

Offline rmhinden

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2018, 06:36 PM »
I wonder if they are going to discount the older style hoses.  For example the 36mm Festool 452882 old style and the new style Festool 500681 are both $175.   

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2018, 07:04 PM »
I suspect that older hoses may be discounted in the future.  I have seen discounting happen in the past for older models but learned from dealers that they can't discount until the program is announced to them or they are given approval.

Peter

Offline MGDS

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2018, 09:13 PM »
Does this come with the systainer as pictured?

Offline c_dwyer

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2018, 09:49 PM »
@MGDS - yes, it comes with a Sys 3, at least that’s what the receipt says.

Offline Gregor

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2018, 07:04 AM »
One thing to bear in mind, it's a 22mm hose at the tool end, so it's ideally suited for sanders and less so for saws, routers, planers.  The domino XL might be questionable (I don't really know).
I use it for my XL700, TS 55 and RO 150 - the new 'bigger' hose might be better, but for me it's good enough.

Should it be available here (other side of the pond) for that price I would get another one without much further thought.

Offline Ster1154

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Was logging into Beaver Tools to check the status of another order and saw this deal on the Festool sleeved hose.  Figured I'd pass it along to the FOG brethren:

Sleeved Hose

Offline c_dwyer

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Hi @Ster1154 , yes @Dovetail65 posted that last week.  I ordered one and it arrived today.  Unfortunately, it won't fit my Ultra Dust Deputy due to a pair of mondo ridges inside of the collar at the vac-end. I'm now wondering if that's what most folks have been posting about regarding that hose.

Does anyone know what replacement collar is needed to fix that?  Seems like a real pain.

Offline Ster1154

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2018, 07:59 PM »
Ah crud - sorry to jam up the FOG. 

@c_dwyer I ended up getting a Festool blast gate and it connects the hose to the dust deputy.  Kind of a pain and I'd love to know if there's a better fix.

Offline deepcreek

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2018, 11:11 AM »
I bought two of the sleeved hoses and they came exactly as pictured with a 16ga Plug-It cord in a T-Lok Sys-3.

Beaver Tools (Festools-Online) shipped them out super fast via Fed-Ex.

I had a minor problem with the shipper and the seller was quick to make amends.  Wasn't their fault but they took care of the problem.  Very impressed.

I'm currently trying to convince myself I need another one of these!
Joe Adams
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Houston, Texas

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Offline rst

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2018, 11:22 AM »
Just a tip on the sleeved hose with plugit.  I've had one since they first came out.  I replaced the vac end with another tool end as it can plug it into my 36mm hose tool end.  This gives me a very long vac hose with minimal pressure drop.  I use a short 12 ga extension cord to extend the plugit.  Works great for me.  I'm trying desperately not to buy the new covered 7m 36mm hose but probably will lose the argument to the voices in my head.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2018, 11:24 AM by rst »

Offline awshucks

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2018, 12:39 PM »
Just to be clear, (seeing as how I already ordered one!) Can I remove the fittings on these hoses and replace with ones I already own? I managed to buy a couple of the old fittings before they disappeared. Also saw on the same site a T-18-3+, and was wondering about battery compatibility with my existing drills. I know thats been covered elsewhere but Im still a bit in the weeds about it. Would love to get the drill at that price but want to get a blue tooth battery soon....

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2018, 01:36 PM »
@awshucks these should come with old style adapter on the tool end.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2018, 03:01 PM »
Just received the old sleeved hose and to the positive it does have the old style rubber tool end but on the negative side it has a new (to me) vac end sleeve that has internal nubs (starting 12mm from the business end) that prevent it from engaging the Dust Deputy pipe. I'd already cut down the excessively long taper on the DD pipe so I don't want to cut that any shorter.

Had anyone cut out the nubs in the hose hub and plugged the resulting holes with something? Did that work or is there another solution?

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2018, 03:25 PM »
Michael got a photo please?

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2018, 03:35 PM »
Michael got a photo please?

I've forgotten how to post a photo of my own  [unsure]

The nubs are positive on the inside but negative on the outside of the hub.

They form a groove on the outside into which a positive locking mechanism could engage but I haven't seen anything like that on Festool  dust extraction equipment.

Offline copcarcollector

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2018, 03:45 PM »
@Michael Kellough  Do these photos show what you are describing..?








Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2018, 03:57 PM »
@copcarcollector  that connector is what I expected but not what I received. Also, what I received does not have the AS symbol.

Offline copcarcollector

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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2018, 03:59 PM »
@copcarcollector  that connector is what I expected but not what I received. Also, what I received does not have the AS symbol.

My photo is 500940 / 201778 the 10 meter sleeved hose, I figured they would be the same... sorry that was not more helpful!

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2018, 04:03 PM »
Attempting to post photo of vac end hose connector.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2018, 04:05 PM »
Son of a gun! Worked on the first try thanks to Seth's tutorial. It is sideways but good enough.

Offline Dick Mahany

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2018, 04:26 PM »
Why two different styles of connectors?  I wanted to get one of those reduced price hoses, but that connector with the two internal ribs won't work for me  [sad]

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Old hose but at 50% still a great deal
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2018, 04:29 PM »
Why two different styles of connectors?  I wanted to get one of those reduced price hoses, but that connector with the two internal ribs won't work for me  [sad]

It's not good for me either. Did anyone else get this connector on a new old hose?