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Offline Kev

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Offline TheTassieBFG

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #301 on: August 04, 2015, 11:07 AM »
in regards to pipe dream
1. wouldn't want to run out of fuel, ease up on th throttle too much or wipe out (not too mention run over more traditional surfers)
2. would like to see this in the next Bond/Croft/other mindless action film

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #302 on: August 04, 2015, 05:56 PM »
The prospect of something like this from a high performance paddle wheel and hydrofoil engineering perspective would be amazing.

Really curios now!

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #303 on: August 05, 2015, 08:11 AM »
Well Festool Australia, the new stuff is out ... you've taken your low to an even lower low [mad]

New HKC, but with OLD 4.2Ah batteries.

Has severe brain damage hit certain parts of Victoria or something?? Why would expect anyone half savvy to buy high drain equipment bundled with the old batteries.

In prior years I've spent between $20K and $30+K on Festool and have been happy despite the price premium we pay here. So far this year I've spent ZERO and I'm not seeing much to entice me to do otherwise.

This is both stupid and insulting on the part of Festool Australia.

There's still quite a few big ticket Festools I'd like to acquire, but I DO NOT like to be treated like a sucker and that's the way the Australian Festool customers seem to be treated right now.

I've got plenty of 18V's and I can obviously buy skins, but this behaviour polarises my opinion and I'm extremely stubborn.

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME !!! [mad]

No doubt Festool Australia is also way too aloof and self absorbed to even bother reading the FOG [wink]

...

My wife and I drink a lot of tea. We like quality and we buy a lot of the T2 stuff. On Monday we got a surprise parcel with over $200 worth of thank you for your business stuff inside. THAT IS HOW YOU TREAT LOYAL CUSTOMERS FESTOOL AUSTRALIA !!! It probably cost T2 very little, but why would I shop anywhere else?

Offline Mike B

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #304 on: August 05, 2015, 08:21 AM »
Yep I agree Kev, that is complete garbage. Must be using the Aus market as a dumping ground for all the leftover 4.2Ah packs.
Oh well, yet another new tool I don't even need to bother looking at.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #305 on: August 05, 2015, 08:35 AM »
Where did you get this info Kev? There is no mention that I could find on their Internet site.

If true, a pathetic decision, and as Mike says, probably made by the German HQ to dump old batts.

I was looking fwd to the release of this tool. Even have some Spring projects lined up where I could use it. What to do, buy a skin and one bat and wait for Festool to come to its senses, or just give it a big miss and continue to use the old but trusty corded DeWalt?!

@Kev  @Mike B
« Last Edit: August 05, 2015, 08:41 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #306 on: August 05, 2015, 08:43 AM »
Yep I agree Kev, that is complete garbage. Must be using the Aus market as a dumping ground for all the leftover 4.2Ah packs.
Oh well, yet another new tool I don't even need to bother looking at.

It wouldn't sting so much if all of the other brands were treating us like poo with the available battery capacities ... but we've had 5's available from companies like Metabo for ages now!

There was a point when I thought it would be a great idea to get into a battery adaptor product space .. initially I thought it would be prohibitive as the number of from brand / to brand combos would be crazy. I then realised that the model could simply involve something where you get two adaptor plates .. "from brand specific to common i/f" and then "to common i/f to brand specific". From there you'd also build a range of batteries that could interface with the "to common i/f" style.

Instead of the adaptors being painful, you'd actually enhance them so that they had some cool stuff such sturdy belt hooks, USB chargers (hate it when your phone goes flat?).




Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #307 on: August 05, 2015, 08:45 AM »
Where did you get this info Kev? There is no mention that I could find on their Internet site.

If true, a pathetic decision, and as Mike says, probably made by the German HQ to dump old batts.

I was looking fwd to the release of this tool. Even have some Spring projects lined up where I could use it. What to do, buy a skin and one bat and wait for Festool to come to its senses, or just give it a big miss and continue to use the old but trusty corded DeWalt?!

@Kev  @Mike B

Sorry, I should have posted the link ...

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564636/SubProducts/564627

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #308 on: August 05, 2015, 09:49 AM »
Where did you get this info Kev? There is no mention that I could find on their Internet site.

If true, a pathetic decision, and as Mike says, probably made by the German HQ to dump old batts.

I was looking fwd to the release of this tool. Even have some Spring projects lined up where I could use it. What to do, buy a skin and one bat and wait for Festool to come to its senses, or just give it a big miss and continue to use the old but trusty corded DeWalt?!

@Kev  @Mike B

Sorry, I should have posted the link ...

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564636/SubProducts/564627

Mmmm! Bonus battery pack for limited time only! Says something!
@Kev @Mike B
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #309 on: August 05, 2015, 08:26 PM »
Underwhelmed doesn't even come close.
  I was lead to beleive that we were supposed to see the release of the new 5.2 batteries whith the release of the New tools! That's what I was told when I enquired about the new batteries some time back.

 I was also told by Festool Aus that with the introduction of price fixing We will start to see some new benifets, so far I've seen nothing.
  It took 5 weeks to get my TSC repaired, I still had to call them to find out what exactly had been repaired once the saw we returned, shouldn't have to do that after a five week wait.
 These repaire time frames, would not be tolerated  In NA or Europe, nor the release of new tools with old batteries, as someone said it's an arrogance at head office that the Ausies will suck it up!

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #310 on: August 05, 2015, 09:54 PM »
While we're expressing ... another thing that gets on my tender bits is the fact that the combo kits and deals are all angled at the first time Festool customer to attract them ... but you are severely disadvantaged if you already have a good cross section of Festool products. It's a bit like the disgusting behavior of banks with credit cards ... come here, get a new account and bring your debt with you for 12 months interest free ... while the long term customers just get a "screw you, pay your 22%".

I've go nothing against offers that attract new business, but it should never be done in a way that simply spits in the face of long term loyal customers.

The list of potential buys for me on the new Festool front could easily amount to an other $30K .. a full Conturo setup, BS105, Planex, CT36L HD to name just a few potentials ... then there's all the new EC ETS's and coming cordless stuff.

As a hobbyist I've obviously invested more in Festool that I need, but it's a passion (woodworking, not Festool) and furnishing the nest with the tools I like is part of the pleasure. My Festool re-seller does go to the effort to make me feel special, but they're limited by the antics of Festool Australia.

 [mad]  [sad]


Offline Scottan

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #311 on: August 05, 2015, 10:16 PM »
Well I'm here to add my name to the list of disappointed persons. I really like the brand but I've always needed the little deal sweeteners to justify the exspense. Since the price fixing this has meant the deals would have to be that little bit sweeter. Unfortunately in my opinion we've just seen the opposite.

I've been on the lookout to invest in a line of cordless tools. So I've been holding out to see what festool can offer. Unfortunately for me it just doesn't stack up against the competitors. As much as I'd like to continue buying Festool it is just now beyond the realm of justification for myself.

Scott

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...latest promotions on line.
« Reply #312 on: August 06, 2015, 02:38 AM »
Latest Promotion Brochure on line.
All generally as speculated in last few days of posts.
http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/Store/Shops/tooltechnic/MediaGallery/promotions/2015-08.pdf

Note C18 price as basic.
It's all 4.2 as bonus packs across the 18V range.



« Last Edit: August 06, 2015, 02:44 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
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Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #313 on: August 06, 2015, 06:59 AM »
Yah - a 2.6Ah 18V battery with your old "new" Syslite valued at $101 [eek]

Makes you really want to celebrate 90 years of Festool with Festool Australia. NOT

Honestly, I didn't think they would do anything that would make me feel more insulted ... maybe I'm just so cranky I'm looking for it now!

They're even trying to "bundle" out the old ETS's.

At least we've now been insulted in FULL COLOUR.

Offline Mike B

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #314 on: August 06, 2015, 07:37 AM »
Is Aus still getting the older version of the Syslite?

So the Festool Promotional catalogue is now just a selection of items at full RRP with a Systainer thrown in for set buyers? This has to be some sort of bad joke.

Unless I've missed something, this is worse than the last one...

Offline Michael1960

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #315 on: August 06, 2015, 08:22 AM »
Hi all, long time lurker here! Since the price fixing business came in I've refused to buy any new gear at full price. Hence its been a dry few months. Just wondering if anyone has heard any whispers of upcoming promos? I thought the last was a little underwhelming so had my fingers crossed for another  starting this month. This is looking more and more unlikely... Thanks :)
Welcome Scottan
It looks like I'm heading for a dry 2015 - no new Festool tools so far!  The latest 'promo' is underwhelming. 


Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #316 on: August 06, 2015, 10:51 AM »
More out of disbelief than anything else, I've reread the "promo" brochure.

Freebies are limited to 2.6 and 4.2 batteries, stirrers, 90 year systainers, tape measures, abrasive systainers and the absolute best is a Festool advertising polo shirt "valued at $55" if you buy a CT [eek] no pricing discounts at all.

Don't expect a free abrasive systainer if you're buying a new ETS150 EC and a CT either ... seems the freebie is only for someone buying the old ETS's with a CT.

How are those poor Festool resellers going to cope with the massive surge in demand this promotion is going to cause?

In the past I've NEVER hesitated buying a Festool on promotion if I believed I have a future use for it ... their loss.

Offline Holmz

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #317 on: August 06, 2015, 05:28 PM »
With all the good tools, they have a harder job.
I am sensing that you are no adibing the Koolaid @Kev
I ain't no mathematician but i have some negative and positive screwdrivers
I ain't no pilot but i have some planes.
I ain't no sucker but i have a vacuum.
And I has me some saws, and some sandpapers.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #318 on: August 07, 2015, 12:28 AM »
With all the good tools, they have a harder job.
I am sensing that you are no adibing the Koolaid @Kev

It's not tasting so good of late @Holmz [sad]

I do like the products and my local reseller, but the local sales and distribution is giving me the toms.

Offline Holmz

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #319 on: August 07, 2015, 02:23 AM »
... but the local sales and distribution is giving me the toms.

toms?
I suppose that it "'toms' you to tears"?


I will probably have to wait a couple of weeks before I can get the domino out again. That recharges my Kool-aid.
I ain't no mathematician but i have some negative and positive screwdrivers
I ain't no pilot but i have some planes.
I ain't no sucker but i have a vacuum.
And I has me some saws, and some sandpapers.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #320 on: August 07, 2015, 05:02 AM »
... but the local sales and distribution is giving me the toms.

toms?
I suppose that it "'toms' you to tears"?


I will probably have to wait a couple of weeks before I can get the domino out again. That recharges my Kool-aid.

Nope .. rhyming slang .. tom tits = 5h!+5

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #321 on: August 07, 2015, 05:04 AM »

... but the local sales and distribution is giving me the toms.

toms?
I suppose that it "'toms' you to tears"?


Nope .. rhyming slang .. tom tits = 5h!+5

Yep.. I think he got it!

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #322 on: August 07, 2015, 05:15 AM »

... but the local sales and distribution is giving me the toms.

toms?
I suppose that it "'toms' you to tears"?


Nope .. rhyming slang .. tom tits = 5h!+5

Yep.. I think he got it!

Ah yes .. you're right !

Today was a looooong day [sad]

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...new Festool Aus Competition
« Reply #323 on: August 16, 2015, 10:45 PM »
Just launched this morning [AEST]

Win one of two signed
Limited Edition 90th Year Commemoration CXS sets.



Details-
http://blog.festool.com.au/general-information/festool-90-year-competition/

_______________________________

Don't bother entering Ben, you would be wasting your time!  [smile]
But in case you do, Good Luck.
@benwheeler
« Last Edit: August 16, 2015, 10:57 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...new Festool Aus Competition
« Reply #324 on: August 16, 2015, 11:25 PM »
Don't bother entering Ben, you would be wasting your time!  [smile]
But in case you do, Good Luck.

Well, what the heck - I enjoy wasting my time!

Thanks for the heads-up, and good luck to the OzFOGgers..

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #325 on: August 17, 2015, 02:30 AM »
This one isn't even going to get my time ... neither is the enticing value offered in the Aug - Oct promotion.

As things stand I'll only invest in a Festool product via Oz distribution when I need it as they're doing absolutely nothing to separate me from my money.

Sad really [sad]

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...9 tools in 9 weeks Comp.
« Reply #326 on: August 31, 2015, 02:31 AM »

Festool Aust have posted new image on their FaceBook Page. As yet no further details.




https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia/photos/a.1443012142579074.1073741827.1443009462579342/1670261079854178/?type=1
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #327 on: August 31, 2015, 02:52 AM »
Mmmm... C18...

Maybe it's a Conturo next week? Fingers crossed!!

Offline Michael1960

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #328 on: August 31, 2015, 03:52 AM »
I'd prefer some decent 'promotions' rather than a series of competitions requiring entrants to write fifty words of ingratiating comments. 

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #329 on: August 31, 2015, 04:22 AM »
Who knows.. Maybe Kev could win with 50 words of brutal honesty?