Author Topic: One for the Aussies... (Read 362337 times)

Untidy Shop · « **Reply #390 on:** October 18, 2015, 04:13 PM »

http://www.bunnings.com.au/bosch-710w-corded-bench-drill_p6200464

@Kev @Larso.

Holmz · « **Reply #391 on:** October 18, 2015, 04:44 PM »

Quote from: Untidy Shop on October 18, 2015, 04:13 PM

http://www.bunnings.com.au/bosch-710w-corded-bench-drill_p6200464

@Kev @Larso.

That doesn't look too bad.

Kev · « **Reply #392 on:** October 18, 2015, 07:27 PM »

Quote from: Larso on October 18, 2015, 03:55 PM

Let us know how they go when you have used them,don't know what i would do with them but they wont be lonely with all the other things i have bought just in case they come in handy.I like the rotating battery although i am not sure how often you will use this,better to have a function and not use it than want one you don't have in the middle of a job though.

BTW the original plastic orange dogs from the workmate fit in the MFT,not perfectly but well enough for most things.

My makita laminate trimmer is one of only two plug in tools i carry in my van and couldn't do without it.Apparently a cordless one from makita is coming soon and it is made to suit the optional spring loaded and angled bases of the latest corded one.Hopefully it is a decent tool,i have used a friends cordless ryobi and for laminate trimming and routing hinge recesses it is pretty good but top heavy in use.
If you don't need a heavy duty drill the electronic bench drill in Bosch green at Bunnings looks like a reasonable option for most tasks.
Cant believe you sold tools i really struggle with that even when i clearly have no need for them,surprisingly i have found it easier to give them to family members then rather sell them off.My nephew refers to me as his favourite uncle which i am sure is because of the free kit he goes home with every time he visits.

I don't think I was mentally stable at the time

I need a high precision pedestal drill for some of the things I have planned - like the one I had

DB10 · « **Reply #393 on:** October 18, 2015, 08:20 PM »

Thanks for the update Kev,
I also like the look of the rotating battery and can see that feature coming in handy in tight spots.
BTW, I had a good clear out of some older tools a week or so back, as I needed the space and some of the tools were old cordless with Ni cad batteries that I wanted to get rid of.
I took them all down to Cash converters as I couldn't be bothered to advertise them locally, anyway after the initial formality of insulting my intelligence we agreed on what seemed like a fair price for a bunch of tools just collecting dust. Might even be enough to cover the purchase of the new Metabo angle grinder.

Holmz · « **Reply #394 on:** October 19, 2015, 08:39 AM »

@Kev
Which one did you have?

Kev · « **Reply #395 on:** October 19, 2015, 09:24 AM »

Quote from: Holmz on October 19, 2015, 08:39 AM

@Kev
Which one did you have?

@Holmz

This one: http://www.metabo.com.au/Product-catalogue-handheld-powertools.24128+M54336e132ca.0.html

None of the reseller sites I've looked at even have it listed .. mine's fresh off the boat!

It is in the Sep-Nov Metabo promo catalog

Kev · « **Reply #396 on:** October 19, 2015, 09:32 AM »

@Holmz

Found it in Adelaide for you ...

https://adelaidetools.com.au/cordless-tools/metabo-cordless-kits/metabo-18v-6-2ah-125mm-brushless-paddle-switch-angle-grinder-kit-wpb18ltxbl.html

Kev · « **Reply #397 on:** October 19, 2015, 09:40 AM »

FWIW a comparison of the top cordless brushless AG's

http://www.coptool.com/brushless-grinder-showdown-2015-milwaukee-makita-metabo/

DB10 · « **Reply #398 on:** October 19, 2015, 08:37 PM »

Quote from: Kev on October 19, 2015, 09:32 AM

@Holmz

Found it in Adelaide for you ...

https://adelaidetools.com.au/cordless-tools/metabo-cordless-kits/metabo-18v-6-2ah-125mm-brushless-paddle-switch-angle-grinder-kit-wpb18ltxbl.html

@Holmz @Kev
Adelaide Tools have been showing this online and in stock for a while now but when I checked on Monday they still hadn't got it in store and they didn't know when they were likely to receive it.

Kev · « **Reply #399 on:** October 19, 2015, 08:44 PM »

Quote from: DB10 on October 19, 2015, 08:37 PM

Quote from: Kev on October 19, 2015, 09:32 AM
@Holmz

Found it in Adelaide for you ...

https://adelaidetools.com.au/cordless-tools/metabo-cordless-kits/metabo-18v-6-2ah-125mm-brushless-paddle-switch-angle-grinder-kit-wpb18ltxbl.html

@Holmz @Kev
Adelaide Tools have been showing this online and in stock for a while now but when I checked on Monday they still hadn't got it in store and they didn't know when they were likely to receive it.

@DB10

Northern Abrasives ordered mine in for me and there was a few weeks wait for it to arrive in the country. I may have got one of the first ones last week!

Holmz · « **Reply #400 on:** October 20, 2015, 04:48 AM »

Sorry @Kev - I was referring to which drill did you have?

Quote from: Kev on October 18, 2015, 07:27 PM

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I need a high precision pedestal drill for some of the things I have planned - like the one I had

Kev · « **Reply #401 on:** October 20, 2015, 05:48 AM »

Quote from: Holmz on October 20, 2015, 04:48 AM

Sorry @Kev - I was referring to which drill did you have?

Quote from: Kev on October 18, 2015, 07:27 PM
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I need a high precision pedestal drill for some of the things I have planned - like the one I had

@Holmz

Sorry

They don't have an identical model on the Hare and Forbes site these days .. it was a floor standing, 1HP with a lid full of pulleys (think it was 16 speed). Cost me close to $1K many, many years ago. It was engineered with a metal working bias.

I never actually thought it had enough travel .. I had to mess with the table height and re-centre a few times when I wanted to drill deep with a long bit.

The one I'm currently looking at is the Jet via Carbatec https://www.carbatec.com.au/drilling-and-boring/jet-drill-press-floor-stand-single-carton but I think it could be a be "light on" in terms of grunt - a common use will be up to 40mm holes in ply for me.

Linshall, Garrick and Leda all seem to be selling nice looking units that all look the same ... http://www.ledamachinery.com.au/index.php/drill-presses/ledacraft-zqj-4132-heavy-duty-drill-press-detail

The variable speed and the wide table are nice features on the Jet though.

I am curious about this one .. http://www.redfoxmachinery.com.au/product/b28h-pedestal-drill-press/ but I've never heard of RedFox

Mike B · « **Reply #402 on:** October 20, 2015, 07:14 AM »

Quote from: Kev on October 20, 2015, 05:48 AM

I am curious about this one .. http://www.redfoxmachinery.com.au/product/b28h-pedestal-drill-press/ but I've never heard of RedFox

Don't know about RedFox but that is a rebadged Optimum B28H (can see the purple under the head and the branding on the chuck). H&F usually sell the Optimum brand but they don't sell this drill press. So perhaps RedFox have had to rebadge it in order to import it.
I believe Optimum is Chinese made/German managed with their own factory in China. Haven't seen any reviews though.
http://www.optimum-machines.com/home/index.html

Larso · « **Reply #403 on:** October 20, 2015, 10:43 PM »

I know its been mentioned on plenty of different threads but thought everyone should know 5.2ah batteries are available in Au now.
My local supplier doesnt have any in stock yet but they can be ordered.

Kev · « **Reply #404 on:** October 20, 2015, 10:52 PM »

Quote from: Larso on October 20, 2015, 10:43 PM

I know its been mentioned on plenty of different threads but thought everyone should know 5.2ah batteries are available in Au now.
My local supplier doesnt have any in stock yet but they can be ordered.

Great! .. Is there a buy back scheme for the dozen plus 4.2Ah's I have?

Larso · « **Reply #405 on:** October 20, 2015, 10:58 PM »

I am in the same boat,i asked the rep if they would swap some and he said he would bring it up at the next meeting but given there is no official acceptance of any issue with the 4.2ahs i wouldn't hold your breath.
I think i will wait for the next cordless tool release and start collecting them that way.

I'm tipping a cordless planer soon!!!!

Kev · « **Reply #406 on:** October 21, 2015, 12:16 AM »

Now that I've invested in Metabo batteries the scene is set for me to get a cordless recipro ... If the need hits soon it'll be the current (and very average) Metabo cordless recipro, otherwise I'll try and hold out for a brushless Metabo or a Festool offering.

I could also be looking to get rid of my Senco Fusion and grab the Dewalt cordless framer and finisher pair when they hit ... putting the evil yellow in my camp as an option too

For some sad reason I dug our my cordless Dremel multi tool the other day to cut one thin rusted screw in a garden gate I was repairing ... it couldn't do it, such a sad little tool!! Metabo cordless angle grinder to the rescue

Larso · « **Reply #407 on:** October 21, 2015, 01:07 AM »

Apparently a new makita cordless nail gun range on its way but no details of what they are,talk of Milwaukee range as well but not soon so you might want to hang on to the fusion for a while and see what happens with other brands.The dewalt is out there now if you cant wait.

Did you buy the fusion expect a nailer some where down the track like i did.Some times it pays to wait a little before jumping in.

If you do end up with some dewalt guns the battery is the same one in their excellent cordless multitool so maybe dewalt could work out

Brushless 18v and 36v makita recip saws to be released next year,and the garden tools are surprisingly good on the Makita platform as well.
Metabo brushless cant be too far down the track though.

benwheeler · « **Reply #408 on:** October 21, 2015, 01:14 AM »

Yes @Kev I'm interested in knowing why you're getting rid of the Senco too. I've had mine for a few years, but it's only been used
for one major job. I was very happy with it..
Ps bought mine from overseas when the dollar was flying high. Even with buying a $100 transformer plus paying for shipping, I was a few hundred dollars ahead. Crazy..

Kev · « **Reply #409 on:** October 21, 2015, 01:39 AM »

Quote from: Larso on October 21, 2015, 01:07 AM

Apparently a new makita cordless nail gun range on its way but no details of what they are,talk of Milwaukee range as well but not soon so you might want to hang on to the fusion for a while and see what happens with other brands.The dewalt is out there now if you cant wait.

Did you buy the fusion expect a nailer some where down the track like i did.Some times it pays to wait a little before jumping in.

If you do end up with some dewalt guns the battery is the same one in their excellent cordless multitool so maybe dewalt could work out

Brushless 18v and 36v makita recip saws to be released next year,and the garden tools are surprisingly good on the Makita platform as well.
Metabo brushless cant be too far down the track though.

A big YEP on Fusion expectations - I thought Senco was going to "nail" the market, but they've faltered and I'm left with a one off that's "ok", but you'd at least expect a consistent framing, finish and pinning / stapling offering with a common platform. Has this simply not happened because the roles in the trade rarely overlap and the demand for commonality doesn't exist?

I'd love it if Stihl introduced a recipro - that'd match all of my gardening gear

Kev · « **Reply #410 on:** October 21, 2015, 01:46 AM »

Quote from: benwheeler on October 21, 2015, 01:14 AM

Yes @Kev I'm interested in knowing why you're getting rid of the Senco too. I've had mine for a few years, but it's only been used
for one major job. I was very happy with it..
Ps bought mine from overseas when the dollar was flying high. Even with buying a $100 transformer plus paying for shipping, I was a few hundred dollars ahead. Crazy..

As a finish gun it's fine .. haven't had an issue, but haven't used it that much either. If I was going to standardise, I'd aim to do it while the Senco is in a state that holds most of it's value!

I paid full local

benwheeler · « **Reply #411 on:** October 21, 2015, 03:26 AM »

Quote from: Kev on October 21, 2015, 01:46 AM

...while the Senco is in a state that holds most of it's value!

Hmm.. Good point. I should probably sell up since I haven't used it for a couple of years, and use air tools for any occasional jobs..

doctr-dan · « **Reply #412 on:** October 21, 2015, 05:53 AM »

Quote from: Kev on October 21, 2015, 12:16 AM

Now that I've invested in Metabo batteries the scene is set for me to get a cordless recipro ... If the need hits soon it'll be the current (and very average) Metabo cordless recipro, otherwise I'll try and hold out for a brushless Metabo or a Festool offering.

I could also be looking to get rid of my Senco Fusion and grab the Dewalt cordless framer and finisher pair when they hit ... putting the evil yellow in my camp as an option too
For some sad reason I dug our my cordless Dremel multi tool the other day to cut one thin rusted screw in a garden gate I was repairing ... it couldn't do it, such a sad little tool!! Metabo cordless angle grinder to the rescue

Why not paslode?

benwheeler · « **Reply #413 on:** October 21, 2015, 05:57 AM »

Quote from: doctr-dan on October 21, 2015, 05:53 AM

Why not paslode?

The Sencos and DeWalts are gasless..

DB10 · « **Reply #414 on:** October 21, 2015, 06:07 AM »

Quite funny that @Kev should mention the sad little Dremel.
As I also dragged mine out on Sunday to do a small job around the house.
The old Dremel finally gave up the ghost almost straight away, it had been getting quite temperamental of late so I wasn't surprised.
I had never really liked the model I had, it was a 400 digital and was about 8 years old. Although I didn't use it that often I like having one around as they can be useful for certain jobs, anyway I was thinking of replacing the old model with the cordless version as I thought being cordless It would be more handy & I might be more inclined to use it even more.
Does anyone know how the Dremel cordless version compares to the current 3000 and 4000 mains models, does it have the same amount of power.

Kev · « **Reply #415 on:** October 21, 2015, 07:28 AM »

Quote from: benwheeler on October 21, 2015, 05:57 AM

Quote from: doctr-dan on October 21, 2015, 05:53 AM

Why not paslode?

The Sencos and DeWalts are gasless..

Exactly ...

... must be Back to the Future day or something

doctr-dan · « **Reply #416 on:** October 21, 2015, 08:09 AM »

After the Senco came out one of my store reps said they were dropping it as they were use getting to many coming back from being unreliable.
I've actually never seen a gasless gun used onsite.
Sure paslode require gas and have there issues but aren't they the best out of the bunch available other than going back to air guns?
I'm more curious than anything

Kev · « **Reply #417 on:** October 21, 2015, 08:56 AM »

Quote from: doctr-dan on October 21, 2015, 08:09 AM

After the Senco came out one of my store reps said they were dropping it as they were use getting to many coming back from being unreliable.
I've actually never seen a gasless gun used onsite.
Sure paslode require gas and have there issues but aren't they the best out of the bunch available other than going back to air guns?
I'm more curious than anything

You could be right about Paslode. Personally I'm not the sort of person that wants to mess with both gas AND batteries .. but to my prior comment about roles in the trade, the Paslode could be the favourite for cordless framer users.

Time will tell.

DB10 · « **Reply #418 on:** October 21, 2015, 08:28 PM »

Sure it's Paslodes on site wherever you look & if I was using a framer most days I would have replaced my old Paslode with a newer one when it died.
But if you only need to use a framer once a month or even every couple of weeks like I do now then the battery only framers like the Dewalt are a good alternative, plus you can use the batteries for other Dewalt bare tools, also not having to mess with gas and having to purchase new gas when it goes out of date all helps.

Untidy Shop · « **Reply #419 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:41 AM »

http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b6f3c69ae3721143f67db2411&id=f5518d8447&e=4ef4b2d347

Finally!

@Kev