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Offline bryan1982

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #690 on: May 07, 2016, 12:58 AM »
So I've got some spare systainers, and some where I haven't been able to contact the person who requested them.
If you're interested, it's car boot sale time.
I'll be in the Altona, Melbourne area 5-6 and maybe 7th of May, after that driving back to the Gold Coast with a  stopover around the Central coast.   Attachment shows the items I have remaining and the prices, part numbers are as per the Tanos catalogue.  Contact via PMs.
(Attachment Link)

@ggc
Just want to say thanks to gavin for organising the pallet of systainers. met up with him this morning.

Cheers

Bryan


Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #691 on: May 08, 2016, 01:41 AM »
Looks like the local dealer has an PS300 barrel version in stock. It's included as part of the promotion this month with a set of blades.

The blade guides look a lot better too. Might have to grab this one......
Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline bryan1982

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #692 on: May 08, 2016, 02:42 AM »
Looks like the local dealer has an PS300 barrel version in stock. It's included as part of the promotion this month with a set of blades.

The blade guides look a lot better too. Might have to grab this one......

I recently had to send the psc 420 back the be repaired.
And i pulled out my old ps300 the guids on the older model are so much beter then the carvex. But i love not having the cords getting tangled with the planner .

Cheers

Bryan

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #693 on: May 08, 2016, 03:05 AM »
I'm more interested in the corded line of Festool tools, as I am replacing (and adding to) some tools that I had stolen years ago. Personally I'm not convinced on the cordless range, there are other companies that have more diversity in this area.

However, for the corded stuff......bring it on. [big grin]
Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #694 on: May 08, 2016, 03:13 AM »
I'm more interested in the corded line of Festool tools, as I am replacing (and adding to) some tools that I had stolen years ago. Personally I'm not convinced on the cordless range, there are other companies that have more diversity in this area.

However, for the corded stuff......bring it on. [big grin]

I got a a PS300 to dedicate to the CMS. Nothing wrong with it at all.

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #695 on: May 08, 2016, 10:40 PM »
That's good.

I have just purchased the PS300. I had a look at the underside of the PS400 and the PS300. I'm happy with my choice [big grin]

Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #696 on: May 15, 2016, 01:26 PM »
Back on Oz range and Conturo .. we don't get this offered ... Festool 500869

https://www.festoolusa.com/power-tools/work-tables/mft3-conturo-edge-bander-table-500869

Really poor that locally we need to doctor a perfectly good MFT/3 and buy and install all the parts when this is offered in other markets.


Offline jobsworth

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #697 on: May 16, 2016, 01:35 AM »
Kev,

Ya can't get one shipped in from the UK?

Pricey I know but the folks in the states mange to get stuff from Europe.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #698 on: May 16, 2016, 03:48 AM »
Kev,

Ya can't get one shipped in from the UK?

Pricey I know but the folks in the states mange to get stuff from Europe.

@jobsworth if I was going to ship something that bulky I'd make the load really worthwhile [wink] [big grin]

In reality I think Festool Australia has simply lost touch while the core distributor focuses on other brands. Their recent Conturo bundle is a brilliant example of being short of the mark ... the idea was right, but they missed the target by miles. What they should do is ask the best resource they have for ideas - their customers. Then look at putting the right combinations together for promotion at an attractive price point.

Another great example is the tool and vac combo ... some of us have plenty of vacs, but would happily benefit from a bonus for buying two or more tools (OR vacs) at once. A clever promotion would simply be 1 tool gets 0% discount, 2 tools gets 5% discount, 3 or more tools gets 10%. discount. This is the sort of promo that can engage everyone.

I also feel sorry for the retailers. Lack lustre promotions, along with the enforced Festool Australia retail price maintenance, gives them very little to entice customers desiring anything other than the narrowly focused offers.

I'll also throw in that here in Oz financial year end is June and the various brands are going crackers with promotions to get tradies' money. Though I'm not a tradie, I just went to satisfy my curiosity on some yellow stuff and accidentally dropped $2K in the process. It's a "share of wallet battle" and the phrase "think big to win big" was never more appropriate.

Offline Mr_Mod

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #699 on: May 16, 2016, 07:44 AM »
Kev,

Ya can't get one shipped in from the UK?

Pricey I know but the folks in the states mange to get stuff from Europe.

Have you enquired with this company. their service is good
http://www.nonpaintstore.nl/

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #700 on: May 16, 2016, 08:18 AM »
Have you enquired with this company. their service is good
http://www.nonpaintstore.nl/

@Mr_Mod

Interesting how they're significantly cheaper on some Festool items and not others. That site deffo gets a bookmark!

Thanks [wink]

Offline jobsworth

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #701 on: May 16, 2016, 02:31 PM »
Kev,

Ya can't get one shipped in from the UK?

Pricey I know but the folks in the states mange to get stuff from Europe.

@jobsworth if I was going to ship something that bulky I'd make the load really worthwhile [wink] [big grin]

In reality I think Festool Australia has simply lost touch while the core distributor focuses on other brands. Their recent Conturo bundle is a brilliant example of being short of the mark ... the idea was right, but they missed the target by miles. What they should do is ask the best resource they have for ideas - their customers. Then look at putting the right combinations together for promotion at an attractive price point.

Another great example is the tool and vac combo ... some of us have plenty of vacs, but would happily benefit from a bonus for buying two or more tools (OR vacs) at once. A clever promotion would simply be 1 tool gets 0% discount, 2 tools gets 5% discount, 3 or more tools gets 10%. discount. This is the sort of promo that can engage everyone.

I also feel sorry for the retailers. Lack lustre promotions, along with the enforced Festool Australia retail price maintenance, gives them very little to entice customers desiring anything other than the narrowly focused offers.

I'll also throw in that here in Oz financial year end is June and the various brands are going crackers with promotions to get tradies' money. Though I'm not a tradie, I just went to satisfy my curiosity on some yellow stuff and accidentally dropped $2K in the process. It's a "share of wallet battle" and the phrase "think big to win big" was never more appropriate.

Hey that will give a reason to fly over here and go to my BBQ Ill even throw a shrimp on the Barbie if ya want

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #702 on: May 17, 2016, 05:50 AM »
450 Euro before shipping for a Rotex. That's $700 AUD + shipping + new plug it lead.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2016, 05:53 AM by Grakat »
Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline Holmz

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #703 on: May 17, 2016, 06:17 AM »
There are the potential warranty dramas, and 30-day trial.

Secondly, If it was a deros or p1cc (or some other), then there is no choice as there is not an importer.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #704 on: May 17, 2016, 06:22 AM »
450 Euro before shipping for a Rotex. That's $700 AUD + shipping + new plug it lead.

@Grakat

The real bummer is that's "minus 3 years warranty" [sad] and technically I don't think it has an Australian 'C' tick.


Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #705 on: May 17, 2016, 07:34 AM »
Agree totally with you @Kev

The biggest risk would be receiving a lemon with no recourse. The pricing model from TTS here in Australia always makes overseas options look attractive. That, in a nutshell is the issue.
Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies... Cheap Dewalt BL hammer drill package
« Reply #706 on: May 18, 2016, 09:22 PM »
Yeh ... I'm talking about Dewalt [eek]

Because I recently grabbed a couple of Dewalt nailers (the $1399 bundle was too good to pass up) I decided I'd like 2x 2.0Ah batteries for the finish nailer.

One option would have been Ebay roulette (buying batteries on Ebay can be a bad experience). The other option was that thing called a "retail store" [cool]

Currently Dewalt have a pretty big promo on and apart from the nailers, I found a package that has 2x 2.0Ah batteries, charger, case and a brushless hammer drill (DeWalt DCD795D2-XE) for $269 .. Normally over $400. The drill appears to be a pretty OK drill too (even though it's yellow). I would have saved myself ~$80 if I'd just got the batteries, but that's counter intuitive to the way I think.

Needless to say I now have a Dewalt drill that will probably find it's way into my son's tool chest (without the batteries) [wink]

I've only seen this offer at Sydney Tools https://sydneytools.com.au/dewalt-dcd795d2-xe-18v-2-0ah-xr-li-ion-brushless-cordless-hammer-drill-driver-kit but I suspect it's part of the wider Dewalt promo.

Offline Holmz

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #707 on: May 18, 2016, 10:23 PM »
Agree totally with you @Kev

The biggest risk would be receiving a lemon with no recourse. The pricing model from TTS here in Australia always makes overseas options look attractive. That, in a nutshell is the issue.

No recourse?
I was able to register all 6 tools, and one was a FT.
You would likely need to pay shipping.
But when you get 4 tool for the price of 3 you are ahead once you hit 4, unless you have 2 failures.

Hence I got a Mirka sander.

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #708 on: May 19, 2016, 12:55 AM »
@Holmz

I think the biggest problem will be that TTS Melbourne would turn around and refuse to cover the tools when you go to register them. Registering an imported Festool would kick seven kinds of s**t out of their price fixing model. (You cant get it cheaper, except at................)

Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #709 on: May 19, 2016, 03:00 AM »
@Grakat
I think what @Holmz was saying, was that the tools were registered with, for example; Festool UK, and that if things went south he would have to pay the expense of freight back to the UK.

My concern is beyond the Warrenty period with a tool requiring a minor fix, and that with freight the expense is beyond cost effectiveness.

Also does Festool's various international identities actually register sales from non residents? A proxy address might be needed? 

International Festool registration is probably a mixed bag. And after all would there not be  some agreement across the Festool International Agent Community? @Phil Beckley   

I have no doubt that Tools such as Mirka can be registered because there is no Australian agent.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 03:15 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #710 on: May 19, 2016, 05:38 AM »
@Untidy Shop

You'll giggle at this ... went to the big B today to pick up a couple of things I knew they had and there was a clearance rack with various stuff on it. Serco 75x3.06mm 3000 pacs for $14 (got 5 boxes) and hinges for $1 .. grabbed a few boxes of 20.

To think I went in for some garden fence hinges and a couple of strips of aluminium [embarassed]

Offline Holmz

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #711 on: May 19, 2016, 06:09 AM »
@Holmz

I think the biggest problem will be that TTS Melbourne would turn around and refuse to cover the tools when you go to register them. Registering an imported Festool would kick seven kinds of s**t out of their price fixing model. (You cant get it cheaper, except at................)

Well I registered it with FT Germany.
I would expect TTS to say no, so I suppose i would send it to Germany.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #712 on: May 19, 2016, 07:55 AM »
@Holmz

I think the biggest problem will be that TTS Melbourne would turn around and refuse to cover the tools when you go to register them. Registering an imported Festool would kick seven kinds of s**t out of their price fixing model. (You cant get it cheaper, except at................)

Well I registered it with FT Germany.
I would expect TTS to say no, so I suppose i would send it to Germany.

TTS here will fix a foreign tool, they just won't perform it as a warranty service - so you'll pay fix ticket on the repair. You'd need to make a judgement call on just how broken you tool is!

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #713 on: May 19, 2016, 08:22 AM »
@Untidy Shop

You'll giggle at this ... went to . . . .

Not at all @Kev.
See PM.
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #714 on: May 19, 2016, 08:57 AM »
Change of subject, have you guys any thoughts on the Masters situation?

 Sad for the employees and the small local business's that rely on the passing trade But what sort of business model sinks millions into setting up a big box store to rival the big B and then pulls the rug out before they have implemented their roll out, apparently some of the incompleted stores will never open.

 I visited them a couple of times and bought some lights and the wife saw a kitchen that she liked on display, when we enquired about the kitchen we were told that they can't actually supply that kitchen, apparently it was installed in their show room before they found out that they couldn't actually source the kitchen, from Germany of all places, begs the question why they wern't sourcing local products. The other kitchens that we looked at all had a 12 week lead times and this store was placed right next to IKEA, I wonder how many potential buyers went next door.

 I always had a look at the power tools but apart from the odd Hitachi and Panasonic it was the usual cheap buy anywhere tools being touted.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #715 on: May 19, 2016, 09:08 AM »
Change of subject, have you guys any thoughts on the Masters situation?

 Sad for the employees and the small local business's that rely on the passing trade But what sort of business model sinks millions into setting up a big box store to rival the big B and then pulls the rug out before they have implemented their roll out, apparently some of the incompleted stores will never open.

 I visited them a couple of times and bought some lights and the wife saw a kitchen that she liked on display, when we enquired about the kitchen we were told that they can't actually supply that kitchen, apparently it was installed in their show room before they found out that they couldn't actually source the kitchen, from Germany of all places, begs the question why they wern't sourcing local products. The other kitchens that we looked at all had a 12 week lead times and this store was placed right next to IKEA, I wonder how many potential buyers went next door.

 I always had a look at the power tools but apart from the odd Hitachi and Panasonic it was the usual cheap buy anywhere tools being touted.

Not a particularly amazing business model ... copy someone else, but don't do is quite as well. Fail early is the obvious outcome.

It's always sad when a business of any sort fails as the collateral damage is always the little guys.

I do believe that Woolworths is greedy and evil .. all of the blame sits squarely at the head of Woolworths, nowhere else!

Offline Toasta

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #716 on: May 19, 2016, 09:10 AM »
Cheers for the heads up mate.  Gonna go have a look see.

Been eyeing off a few things lately.

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #717 on: May 19, 2016, 06:19 PM »
Hi there

If you want 600mm and 1000mm Bessey clamps Masters stock them. The last time Carbatec had a sale on them Masters price matched it. They only stock the two sizes though, so get in before the whole lot is gone.

@DB10 was that Masters Marsden Park? They have an IKEA next door.
Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #718 on: May 19, 2016, 07:58 PM »
Hi there

If you want 600mm and 1000mm Bessey clamps Masters stock them. The last time Carbatec had a sale on them Masters price matched it. They only stock the two sizes though, so get in before the whole lot is gone.

@DB10 was that Masters Marsden Park? They have an IKEA next door.
@Grakat  Nope, over in Adelaide, near the Airport, it's only been open for about 18 months.
Good point about the Bessey clamps, I'll check them out this weekend,
 I hope that any sale Masters have Is more encouraging than the Dick Smith's closure sale.

Offline Holmz

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #719 on: May 19, 2016, 10:26 PM »
Well, every computer has a universal power supply so I'm sure building universal motors should be doable but if you try to stick the transformer coils in a tool with high wattage you are introducing a lot of extra heat from the transformation and weight of the coils.


Yes, but what if Festool developed an 'intelligent motor' that could run on multiple power supplies due to chip control. This motor could consequently also deal with long extension cords and power fluctuations, particularly in remote areas or from portable generators.

Reiska, my ignorance beyond the basic physics of electrical conductivity gives me the advantage of challenging the preconceptions of those who really know.  [smile]

I still think Kev is on to something here.

Best wishes.

The Mafell ones work with a Universal motor so 50 - 60 Hz.
Yeah they cost more... I think my MT55 was the same price imported as the TS55 is internally.
The trans were cheaper.
And the p1cc a few $ more than a carvex, but most of the extras were included, just the angle base was an extra charge.
And the Mirka was about the same as an ETS EC, or maybe a bit cheaper.
I am not sure if the Mirka is "universal", but it is a DC brushless, so it would only be the xformer that matters.

If one is doing a 230v 50-Hz on US 220v-60Hz, then it matters if the motor is universal.