10% off EVERYTHING in May at Carba-Tec
What's that America? 10% off only dominos?!
Aussies do it better :P
Say bye, bye to you credit card cool off ;-P
I see a TSC55 in your near future, lol.
Don't worry fellas... Tax return will be in soon to pay off that credit card! [big grin]
10% off EVERYTHING in May at Carba-Tec
What's that America? 10% off only dominos?!
Aussies do it better :P
10% off EVERYTHING in May at Carba-Tec
What's that America? 10% off only dominos?!
Aussies do it better :P
Not really a discount given their already premium prices on festool more than 10% more than other options in Australia. Plus they put their prices up significantly on everything else recently too.
Ha!
Well turns out you guys were right... What a disgrace Carba-tec (Perth) is!!
So I go there this morning to pick up the items I wanted and notice on their whiteboard they have a little * under the "Massive 10% off EVERYTHING".... *Excludes power tools!!!
Hmmm I thought...
Went in and the first thing on my list was the domino assortment systainer. I didn't even consider it a problem because it's obviously not a power tool... So wrong! "Oh no, that's not included in the sale cause it's a power tool accessory"... Exactly I say, it's not a power tool! "No, because it's an accessory of a power tool it's not included"
Incredulous I moved on... "OK, so the next thing I want is a CT-17 extractor, they must be included because they're on sale on your website". Reply was "no, that's a power tool as well" so I show him his own website where it clearly shows the 10% off.
http://www.carbatec.com.au/festool-ct-36-dust-extractor_c20208 (http://www.carbatec.com.au/festool-ct-36-dust-extractor_c20208)
"Oh ok, I'll check with the boss" he says
Comes back and says "I've checked with the boss and he says that the sale is only in Brisbane"!!!
Stupidly I continued arguing! Reminded him that the website is Australia-wide, not Brisbane specific blah blah... In the end I just shook my head and walked out...
In conclusion, Carba-Tec Perth = frauds!
That's my third dealing with three different local Fedtool dealers... 2 were horrendous, one was just average.
Why would I bother paying a premium for 'service' which is just bad?!
Might aswell buy from UK... Can't say I didn't try!
Not surprised Carbatec Perth are doing this. They almost always fall back on the "We are just a franchise store - not the same as the Eastern States stores" excuse. I'm sure it all makes sense to them with cost of shipping etc, but it gets tired really quick. It saddens me that that is the best (last) store Perth has for all things woodwork...
I'm more curious as to why Festool Australia hasn't pushed out a new specials catalogue, they are usually pretty reliable every three months.
Ha!
Well turns out you guys were right... What a disgrace Carba-tec (Perth) is!!
So I go there this morning to pick up the items I wanted and notice on their whiteboard they have a little * under the "Massive 10% off EVERYTHING".... *Excludes power tools!!!
Hmmm I thought...
Went in and the first thing on my list was the domino assortment systainer. I didn't even consider it a problem because it's obviously not a power tool... So wrong! "Oh no, that's not included in the sale cause it's a power tool accessory"... Exactly I say, it's not a power tool! "No, because it's an accessory of a power tool it's not included"
Incredulous I moved on... "OK, so the next thing I want is a CT-17 extractor, they must be included because they're on sale on your website". Reply was "no, that's a power tool as well" so I show him his own website where it clearly shows the 10% off.
http://www.carbatec.com.au/festool-ct-36-dust-extractor_c20208 (http://www.carbatec.com.au/festool-ct-36-dust-extractor_c20208)
"Oh ok, I'll check with the boss" he says
Comes back and says "I've checked with the boss and he says that the sale is only in Brisbane"!!!
Stupidly I continued arguing! Reminded him that the website is Australia-wide, not Brisbane specific blah blah... In the end I just shook my head and walked out...
In conclusion, Carba-Tec Perth = frauds!
That's my third dealing with three different local Fedtool dealers... 2 were horrendous, one was just average.
Why would I bother paying a premium for 'service' which is just bad?!
Might aswell buy from UK... Can't say I didn't try!
I've been led to believe that Festool Australia probably won't do a Q2 promo, just a late May/June EOFYS (end of financial year sale) to clear older stocks in readiness for new products and newly packaged products (think Protools and cordless tools pre 4.2Ah batteries clearout). So don't expect a flyer yet.
Back on CarbaTec - thing I hate about them is the fact that their OS suppliers are loyal (brands like Leigh), yet you'd get better pricing and service if you ordered direct (use shipito.com if you do consider this, but keep the lots under $1K)
Yep unfortunately Carba tec have got lazy because of the monopoly they have with some brands,I used to purchase from them all the time but the out of stock delays, poor response to enquires and generally lack of giving a SH*T has turned me off.
I am lucky in that my job(builder) is also my hobby and i am not generally a price sensitive purchaser, I buy just about everything (tool,jig etc)that takes my fancy so they dont have to work very hard to get my business but even common courtesy is lacking from these guys.
Online from O/S is usually cheaper more reliable and incredibly most often quicker.[/b]
Yep unfortunately Carba tec have got lazy because of the monopoly they have with some brands,I used to purchase from them all the time but the out of stock delays, poor response to enquires and generally lack of giving a SH*T has turned me off.
I am lucky in that my job(builder) is also my hobby and i am not generally a price sensitive purchaser, I buy just about everything (tool,jig etc)that takes my fancy so they dont have to work very hard to get my business but even common courtesy is lacking from these guys.
Online from O/S is usually cheaper more reliable and incredibly most often quicker.[/b]
What a fabulous world we'd live in if we could either standardise on mains power, or produce tools that didn't care.
On that, I'm amazed that some company hasn't produced a range of compact power converter modules that would allow manufacturers to "internationalise" their tools easily. I'm visualising high, medium and low current modules that accept variable voltage and frequency in and output a voltage specific to the manufacturers standard. It's gotta be doable if the volume market can be created ...
Yep unfortunately Carba tec have got lazy because of the monopoly they have with some brands,I used to purchase from them all the time but the out of stock delays, poor response to enquires and generally lack of giving a SH*T has turned me off.
I am lucky in that my job(builder) is also my hobby and i am not generally a price sensitive purchaser, I buy just about everything (tool,jig etc)that takes my fancy so they dont have to work very hard to get my business but even common courtesy is lacking from these guys.
Online from O/S is usually cheaper more reliable and incredibly most often quicker.[/b]
What a fabulous world we'd live in if we could either standardise on mains power, or produce tools that didn't care.
On that, I'm amazed that some company hasn't produced a range of compact power converter modules that would allow manufacturers to "internationalise" their tools easily. I'm visualising high, medium and low current modules that accept variable voltage and frequency in and output a voltage specific to the manufacturers standard. It's gotta be doable if the volume market can be created ...
If you mean smart modules within the tool Kev, that is a great idea. And with Festool you would only have to have the correct plug it lead for your country.
Yep unfortunately Carba tec have got lazy because of the monopoly they have with some brands,I used to purchase from them all the time but the out of stock delays, poor response to enquires and generally lack of giving a SH*T has turned me off.
I am lucky in that my job(builder) is also my hobby and i am not generally a price sensitive purchaser, I buy just about everything (tool,jig etc)that takes my fancy so they dont have to work very hard to get my business but even common courtesy is lacking from these guys.
Online from O/S is usually cheaper more reliable and incredibly most often quicker.[/b]
What a fabulous world we'd live in if we could either standardise on mains power, or produce tools that didn't care.
On that, I'm amazed that some company hasn't produced a range of compact power converter modules that would allow manufacturers to "internationalise" their tools easily. I'm visualising high, medium and low current modules that accept variable voltage and frequency in and output a voltage specific to the manufacturers standard. It's gotta be doable if the volume market can be created ...
If you mean smart modules within the tool Kev, that is a great idea. And with Festool you would only have to have the correct plug it lead for your country.
Exactly!
Well, every computer has a universal power supply so I'm sure building universal motors should be doable but if you try to stick the transformer coils in a tool with high wattage you are introducing a lot of extra heat from the transformation and weight of the coils.
I did find the PDC/18 on the site, even though its not listed with the other drills, it's on the main page you just have to scroll sideways:
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768928/SubProducts/768928 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768928/SubProducts/768928)
After some conversations at a tool show last week i was told the BHC18 still looks on track for mid August and were also getting the TSC55.... Possibly even as a Skin
But there was no talk of the venturo, wonder when that is coming
Festool AUST email just arrived with invitation to the Product Launch and demonstration of the Conturo, BHC, and TSC 55 at the ToolHouse in Dandenong Sth. (Melbourne) on Saturday July 19th, 9-12. Demonstration will be by Thomas Griess from Festool Germany.
Unfortunately a +2hr drive for me, and I will be working anyway.
And just when you purchased all that self adhesive edge banding Kev! [smile]
I still haven't organised pickup / delivery ... I'm tempted to just pay for it and give to any Melbournite that wants to pick it up. Any takers??
If you buy it this month apparently you will get one free battery even if purchased
The bigger problem is no systainer i reckon.
Friday I should be picking up my TSC and BHC + 2 batteries. I'll grab and extra charger.
Story is the 5Ah batteries are coming, otherwise I'd grab a couple more 4.2Ah's.
My understanding of the Flexi Option is such that you only buy the Parts you need.
For me i don't need another charger so I want BHC18 + 2 Batteries and thats all i have to pay for with Systainer included ( + Bonus Battery from Promotion ) So it's a build your own kit system.
I may even for now just buy one Battery since one comes for free.
If you were to buy a kit then it would likely be sold at the total price of all separates and you may have to pay for something yo don't need.
If my interpretation is correct when referring to XXXXXX Tools Then they are selling the BHC18 for $519 as skin only, which is as we now know the Festool RRP of $469
They seem to jack up the Festool prices indeed.
If my interpretation is correct when referring to XXXXXX Tools Then they are selling the BHC18 for $519 as skin only, which is as we now know the Festool RRP of $469
They seem to jack up the Festool prices indeed.
YEP!!!
But it's down from $788 [wink] ... and only $220 for a $60 RRP charger.
You've gotta love the TSC pricing too "43% off"
They're a bunch of stupid clowns!
I'm going to join you Kev.... picked up the BHC18 and 2 Batteries today ( free one and bought one ). Looking forward to putting it to work tomorrow.
Kev did you get the bumpers for the Batteries? or just belt clip versions?
Couldnt help myself today once i realised the flexi tools come in a systainer and now i have a 420 carvex and free battery.Should have grabbed another battery and charger so will go back on the w/end to complete the mission.
Hope Kev is right about a recipro coming sometime and i would love a cordless planer!
Will try hard to find something to cut with the carvex on the job tomorrow.
BTW does anyone know of a reliable online retailer of the Collins coping foot for the carvex who ships to Aus?
I have nothing cordless Festool at the moment, but was thinking of getting a jigsaw as my next purchase.
Hmm... have I got this right? Build it yourself is the most value?
Option 1 - Build it myself ($474 + blades)
At the moment the cordless barrel grip carvex flexi is $429 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/561735/SubProducts/561735) (in SYS 2) with a free 4.2Ah battery. Then I need to add a charger for $45 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/495226), bringing the total to $474. (And need to add some blades).
Option 2 - Hybrid Set (total $642)
$597 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/561634/SubProducts/561634) (Basic Set in SYS3 with 2.6Ah) and need to add the charger for $45 bringing the total to $642
Option 3 - the official starter set ($699)
If I got it as a set, it would be $699 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/561634/SubProducts/561632) (official set in SYS3 with a 3.2Ah and charger)
And it is cheaper than a plug in Trion at $515 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/561444/SubProducts/561444)
I'm going to join you Kev.... picked up the BHC18 and 2 Batteries today ( free one and bought one ). Looking forward to putting it to work tomorrow.
Kev did you get the bumpers for the Batteries? or just belt clip versions?
Bumpers... though I haven't checked them all.
'The Boss is back!'
With all the hoopla regarding Flexi Batt Tools, this one snuck under the radar!
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768939/SubProducts/768939 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768939/SubProducts/768939)
'The Boss is back!'
With all the hoopla regarding Flexi Batt Tools, this one snuck under the radar!
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768939/SubProducts/768939 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768939/SubProducts/768939)
It's been for sale through Festool AUST for over a week, but so far through my research, no dealer with internet presence has it advertised.
Festool Aust have a survey competition with a TSC55 as the prize.
'The winner will receive a TSC 55 Plus (561682) with 2 x 18V 4.1ah Lithium Ion Batteries and a Charger in a Systainer valued at $1,099 RRP!'
Check your email if it is registered with Festool Aust. As yet cannot find link on their web page.
Also look for details of possibility for end user sessions. See Peter's FOG post for details.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221 (http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221)
Festool Aust have a survey competition with a TSC55 as the prize.
'The winner will receive a TSC 55 Plus (561682) with 2 x 18V 4.1ah Lithium Ion Batteries and a Charger in a Systainer valued at $1,099 RRP!'
Check your email if it is registered with Festool Aust. As yet cannot find link on their web page.
Also look for details of possibility for end user sessions. See Peter's FOG post for details.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221 (http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221)
Festool Aust have a survey competition with a TSC55 as the prize.
'The winner will receive a TSC 55 Plus (561682) with 2 x 18V 4.1ah Lithium Ion Batteries and a Charger in a Systainer valued at $1,099 RRP!'
Check your email if it is registered with Festool Aust. As yet cannot find link on their web page.
Also look for details of possibility for end user sessions. See Peter's FOG post for details.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221 (http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221)
Link for TSC competition is -
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia (https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia)
Or
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia/app_834101733300988 (https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia/app_834101733300988)
Also look out for Apprentices competition for a BHC.
http://www.festool.com.au/apprentice/signup (http://www.festool.com.au/apprentice/signup)
Let's hope this time they don't cancel the competition again. [mad]
Just a reminder to the Festool owning Australian Tradies and DIYs as you knock off or think about it, that it is September 23rd tomorrow.
That leaves only 7 more days to get an entry in if you have'nt already done so. [smile]
Festool Aust have a survey competition with a TSC55 as the prize.
'The winner will receive a TSC 55 Plus (561682) with 2 x 18V 4.1ah Lithium Ion Batteries and a Charger in a Systainer valued at $1,099 RRP!'
Check your email if it is registered with Festool Aust. As yet cannot find link on their web page.
Also look for details of possibility for end user sessions. See Peter's FOG post for details.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221 (http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221)
Link for TSC competition is -
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia (https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia)
Or
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia/app_834101733300988 (https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia/app_834101733300988)
Also look out for Apprentices competition for a BHC.
http://www.festool.com.au/apprentice/signup (http://www.festool.com.au/apprentice/signup)
Thanks mate,very happy with this prize.
I now have 5 Festool track saws!!! [eek]
Did you receive an invitation from Festool Aust for training sessions on Oct 22?
I am left wondering if these are more a sales promotion than genuine training given the invitation's graphic style and information provided, the 'workshops' are shorter than 1/2 day, in fact 1/2 an hour, and that they are at a dealer rather than Festool Aust HQ. I do not want to travel 2 hrs to attend a sales event dressed up as 'training', but might if it was genuine 1/2 day.
What do other Aussies think?
Is this a dealer piggy backing on the recent Festool AUS training survey?
http://blog.festool.com.au/event/the-tool-house-festool-product-training/?instance_id=210 (http://blog.festool.com.au/event/the-tool-house-festool-product-training/?instance_id=210)
Recently on a post Kev published his picture wearing a Festool Cap.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/what-festool-promotional-or-rare-items-do-you-have/msg350785/#msg350785 (http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/what-festool-promotional-or-rare-items-do-you-have/msg350785/#msg350785)
Today looking at Festool Aust Facebook page and the item share with us what you are doing this weekend I see -
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia?hc_location=timeline (https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia?hc_location=timeline)
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Must be him, look at the number of Festools! [big grin]
Im blinnndddddddddd.. I canntt seee it feels like my eyes are bleeding
Thought this was Kev
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Hey Kev i noticed in the background of one of your pics a hammerlock workbench and thought you (and maybe others) might be interested in the plywood drawer cubes i made a while back for my hammerlock benches.Cool idea thanks [wink]
As my wife seems determined to stay in the Air Force and we are still moving around on a regular basis all my gear has to fit in a double garage as that is the only shed space i can be gauranteed to have in each location.
Over the last few years i have made heaps of different cupboards and benches etc which i can dismantle and re-establish quickly each time we move.The hammerlock started as a quick fix but with the addition of the drawers have become super handy and they do break down and go back together very easily.
Those of you on the Festool AUS email list would now know the Wings and Drawers will be down under in January and the Vecturo in March.
Looks like our NA friends are ahead of us this time! [eek] [big grin]
Those of you on the Festool AUS email list would now know the Wings and Drawers will be down under in January and the Vecturo in March.
Looks like our NA friends are ahead of us this time! [eek] [big grin]
Yeh - not happy Jane!!
Plus the eoy sale isn't that special .. picked up a cheap CHP45, AGP125, 6 more Protool TB's and a Winkel-angle-thing. They never put the stuff on sale I REALLY want ... so I just buy more "stuff" [embarassed]
10% off EVERYTHING in May at Carba-Tec
What's that America? 10% off only dominos?!
Aussies do it better :P
Not really a discount given their already premium prices on festool more than 10% more than other options in Australia. Plus they put their prices up significantly on everything else recently too.
10% off EVERYTHING in May at Carba-Tec
What's that America? 10% off only dominos?!
Aussies do it better :P
Not really a discount given their already premium prices on festool more than 10% more than other options in Australia. Plus they put their prices up significantly on everything else recently too.
I didn't think dealers were allowed to set their own prices.
Yes, heard that the 'no discount' was coming. Certainly will make a difference, as our RRP's seem to be high, compared to elsewhere.
Regarding pricing of Festool products in Australia....
I was advised last week by my main Festool retailer they have been told from the local importer that from next year (now) they must sell Festool at RRP. No discounting will be permitted. Has anyone heard similar information?
Regarding pricing of Festool products in Australia....
I was advised last week by my main Festool retailer they have been told from the local importer that from next year (now) they must sell Festool at RRP. No discounting will be permitted. Has anyone heard similar information?
[url=https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-authorises-minimum-retail-prices-on-festool-power-tools]https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-authorises-minimum-retail-prices-on-festool-power-tools (https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-authorises-minimum-retail-prices-on-festool-power-tools) [/URL]
I can see why Festool would want to alleviate the issue of real shops providing information and service, but online retailers making the sales. However, I buy my Festool gear through Just Tools in Sth Melbourne, who provide good service and generally have the cheapest prices.
Anyway, those retailers are going to be in luck now, with an instant bonus once they're "forced" to all sell at the same higher price!
And there is at least one other dealer in Melbourne that does not discount and whose service is just not in the same league!
And there is at least one other dealer in Melbourne that does not discount and whose service is just not in the same league!
+1.. If you're referring to a certain place in the south east, I was a little bit disappointed when I visited a couple of weeks ago, and knew more about the Festool range (after owning a few tools for 2 months) than the staff working that day.
I have purchased Festool in NSW,QLD and the ACT over many years and the dealers have always registered the tools for me and I then recieved confirmation etc by mail around 3 to 4 weeks later.
I bought several products last year and this was still the same. I have never even thought to try registering myself online as it has never been required.Thought this was normal but maybe i have just been lucky.
The ACCC acknowledge the introduction of Resale Price Maintenance (RPM) for Festool products in Australia will lead to some consumers paying more for Festool products.Yep It's all about greed, if Just tools can sell at a certain price and still make profit, what justification does Tooltechnic have to charge higher prices, after all Just tools must get their tools through Tooltechnic.
Price fixing will be good for most retailers but consumers will be 'slugged' with paying more for products that are already expensive. How much more will we be asked to pay? I can myself looking at other brands of power tools in the future.
Can anyone confirm April (1?) as the month this comes in to force.
The full judgement on page 27 says it comes into force from December 27th, 2014. It expires on December 31st, 2018. (Carn't wait?! [smile]).
Full judgement -
http://registers.accc.gov.au/content/trimFile.phtml?trimFileTitle=D14+166765.pdf&trimFileFromVersionId=1183406&trimFileName=D14+166765.pdf (http://registers.accc.gov.au/content/trimFile.phtml?trimFileTitle=D14+166765.pdf&trimFileFromVersionId=1183406&trimFileName=D14+166765.pdf)
The ETS-EC's here already? Aargh! How will I resist?!
New Products noted today on Festool Aust Website -
ETS-EC 150/3
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/sec0b7e15a304/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/571879/SubProducts/571878 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/sec0b7e15a304/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/571879/SubProducts/571878)
Vecturo Multi Tool
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/sec0b7e15a304/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/563010/SubProducts/563010 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/sec0b7e15a304/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/563010/SubProducts/563010)
TXS Mini Cordless Driil/Driver
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/sec0b7e15a304/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564516/SubProducts/564516 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/sec0b7e15a304/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564516/SubProducts/564516)
Assembly Wood Package
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/sec0b7e15a304/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/500875 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/sec0b7e15a304/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/500875)
Put my order in yesterday with JT, for my new ETS 150/3... Might get it before Easter with any luck.
Just checked out the New OS 400 Vecturo on their site and At $850, Think I'll be sticking with my Fein.
The new ETS . . . Going to try and register it today.
I can't see it there either, but they assured me it's out there.
My wallet has now gone into hiding.
Good news is that Festool Aus have just confirmed that the CXS definitely comes with two batteries and they will update their website to state this accordingly.
@Untidy Shop Yep, JT had registered it for me, there a good bunch of lads over there. Thanks for the heads up on that.
You got me started on Discounting now.
My local Festool Dealer is day dreaming when he said to me that price fixing will be good for their business, as all dealers will now have to play on a level playing field.
My local dealer has now become quite obsolete to me, there is no point for me to drive 45 mins burning up fuel to put an order in with a sales person who knows very little about festool, as the so called expert on hand is never there.
Only to find that most of what I need they won't hold in stock and will have to order in, resulting in a return trip usually a week later when the stock arrives.
When I can order on line with Festool Aus at the same prices, my orders usually come post free and arrive in one go a few days later.
There is only one business who will thrive with this arrangement and I wonder who that will be.
The last Festool I bought was an HL850, about six months ago from my local, with a nice discount. I honestly can't see when my next Festool purchase will be, with the already high prices, and no chance of getting a better than retail price.I too haven't bought a new Festool in the last six months. At my last visit (6 months ago)
Thing is, I'd like to keep my 1400 router in a table, and buy a 1010 for hand/guide rail use. I could have got the price down enough, that buying a Makita (for example) would cease to be an attractive option. I would pay the bit extra and not even think about it. Now, buying another brand and leaving that in the table, freeing up my 1400, seems like a much better idea.
I recently upgraded my TS55, and in the past would have checked out the 75 - but it make more sense to import a different saw direct from Germany.
Looks like the change has had an effect on me.
@Untidy Shop
My local dealer has now become quite obsolete to me, there is no point for me to drive 45 mins burning up fuel to put an order in with a sales person who knows very little about festool, as the so called expert on hand is never there.
Only to find that most of what I need they won't hold in stock and will have to order in, resulting in a return trip usually a week later when the stock arrives.
When I can order on line with Festool Aus at the same prices, my orders usually come post free and arrive in one go a few days later.
There is only one business who will thrive with this arrangement and I wonder who that will be.
We went through the same thing in the USA. Originally, there was the Sherman Anti-Trust Act that prohibited price fixing. Unfortunately, the Act was modified later which opened the gates for companies like Festool to set SELLING prices, not just Minimum Advertised Prices as was the case previously.You are forgetting that cars cost 3 times as much down here & Festools cost 10 times more.
From the last post: "...and we are talking about enough money here to buy a car..."
Ummm, actually about THREE cars! [eek]
I can't justify paying US$175 for a Syslite, though I'd love to have one. It would be nice if Festool "rewarded" me for my intense loyalty and purchases by sending me one as swag! Festool, are you listening? The hat was nice, but c'mon! Just saying.... [tongue]
Cheers,
Frank
Looks like those pictures of their shop were taken a few years ago,
if you had to take a guess, how many years?
Looks like those pictures of their shop were taken a few years ago,
if you had to take a guess, how many years?
Doh, I bumped into the Festool rep yesterday, and was having a chat, I had a few questions regarding the Kapex, sorry totally forgot to ask about the C18.
If you get a chance give Festool a call, because it was last week now that they said to me it's going up on their web site.
Although to be fair, that search probably wouldn't work anyway - I think it's a "C 18"
Did Festool notify you of the evening, went to tool house last year to but a load of stuff. I ended up walking out as one sales guy was to interested with his phone the other his cigarette at the door.Although I've always opted-in to any Festool-related email I could find, the answer is no - I found out about that evening by following Festool on Facebook. One thing I think Festool Aus could definitely work on is communicating with its customers. They have a fairly captive audience of loyal purchasers, and yet I get almost no emails from them, and the Facebook page often just has inane questions such as "When using a multi tool what is your favourite accessory and blade to use?" Brilliant! That'll get people engaged!
Ended up going to JT and got served much better and got a lot of things thrown in.
My understanding is that the warranty is provided by Tool House, and they've been offering it for a couple of years. Also - SHHHH! I want them to keep offering it :-D
Shhhh too late - see Festool Australia FaceBook page. Be quick! [eek]
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia (https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia)
@benwheeler
@benwheelerShhhh too late - see Festool Australia FaceBook page. Be quick! [eek]
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia (https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia)
@benwheeler
Shhhh! What are you referring to? I can't see anything bad on their FB page or website..
Pretty disappointing May/June promo catalogue from Festool Aus IMO...Yes agree - I was hoping following the introduction of fixed pricing in Australia there would be some good promotions. This would have been one way to appease price conscious buyers.
Hehe, the forum just changed d-a-m-n to d-a-r-n. Good old American squeamishness - violence is A-O-K, but don't swear in front of the children!
Only one month in from April 1, and we hear that The Tool House is offering a customer benefit not being offered or may be in fact not able to be offered by other dealers: that is; an extended Warrenty of 2 more years.
Surely this is not in the spirit of the level playing field promoted by the ACC decision.
Indeed it may even be in breach of that decision - page 26 Conditions, ' . details of any changes made to standard dealer contracts'. In other words is Festool Australia providing additional access to its service and warranty sections that are not able to be accessed by other dealers, or is TH totally covering these additional costs?
If TH is covering these additional warranty costs, how is this different to a dealer who before April 1 also cut into their operating costs but by discounting?
@benwheeler @DB10 @Mr_Mod @Linbro @Bohdan
Hi Untidy, I couldn't see the reply on Face book, but then I'm not a member, do you need to be on Facebook to see replies?
I'm not trying to be the last person alive who is not on Facebook, I just don't need the distraction, hard enough getting a days work in as it is.
Ah, thanks. I'm not sure what the best case scenario was from complaining to Festool. Perhaps he's a rival dealer [emoji16]
Anyway, good result from my point of view!
Wow! That was a long survey.
I've not looked at the survey yet, but it can't be any worse than the AEG survey that I filled in a couple of weeks back, that was an hour of my life I won't get back!
I've not looked at the survey yet, but it can't be any worse than the AEG survey that I filled in a couple of weeks back, that was an hour of my life I won't get back!Filled out the Festool survey, what a breeze compared to the AEG survey a few weeks back.
We blow all our spare cash on their products and now they wish for us to spend $250 to do the training.
Are you sure tea and biscuits are in the 'scope of delivery'. [wink]We blow all our spare cash on their products and now they wish for us to spend $250 to do the training.
Tea and biscuits are very expensive ... [smile]
Do not give up Kev and Ben.
Through working for a Hardware Franchise Store/TY, I have been told that competitions generate far more publicity than actual entries.
@Kev @benwheeler
While I'm in the Aussie area, I'd thought I'd ask - does anyone have any classic systainers, in good condition, they'd like to swap for t-locs? I've got mainly sys-2 & 3 to swap, looking for anything classic.
Lincoln.
While I'm in the Aussie area, I'd thought I'd ask - does anyone have any classic systainers, in good condition, they'd like to swap for t-locs? I've got mainly sys-2 & 3 to swap, looking for anything classic.
Lincoln.
I have some, but I'm in Sydney. That'd be a costly up and down I'd guess!
Re Survey Comp.
Congratulations to Jack from Geelong.
Do not know if you are a FOG member.
http://blog.festool.com.au (http://blog.festool.com.au)
We can now officially give up Kev and Ben. [big grin]
He chose the obvious great prize, but I was holding out for a PDC 18. However, if the new HKC had been released here, it would have been that. Oh well, Vecturo anyone!? [smile]
@Kev @benwheeler
Oh well - I can wait for the grand prize of a complete set of drills and sanders :-D
Re Survey Comp.
Congratulations to Jack from Geelong.
Do not know if you are a FOG member.
http://blog.festool.com.au (http://blog.festool.com.au)
We can now officially give up Kev and Ben. [big grin]
He chose the obvious great prize, but I was holding out for a PDC 18. However, if the new HKC had been released here, it would have been that. Oh well, Vecturo anyone!? [smile]
@Kev @benwheeler
Oh well - I can wait for the grand prize of a complete set of drills and sanders :-D
Re Survey Comp.
Congratulations to Jack from Geelong.
Do not know if you are a FOG member.
http://blog.festool.com.au (http://blog.festool.com.au)
We can now officially give up Kev and Ben. [big grin]
He chose the obvious great prize, but I was holding out for a PDC 18. However, if the new HKC had been released here, it would have been that. Oh well, Vecturo anyone!? [smile]
@Kev @benwheeler
I use Ideal Tools in Melbourne for all my festool purchases, always get back to you quickly on any inquirys and delivery is usually 2-3 days.
I ordered an MFT on Sunday night and had in my shop on tuesday morning.
Crabatec are only brand collectors supplying only parts of the range from any brand of tools, if you want something from the brand they have and not listed can take up to 6 months or more to get in so easier to order direct from that supplier.
Has anyone been tempted to splurge with the $20k instant write-off? Only time you'll get around 1/3 of Festool any time soon..
Festool Aprons
Personally I do not like wearing aprons or carpenters belts and bags. However I realise these can be important gear for some.
So whilst doing my weekly check if the Festool Aus website I noted that the Festool Aprons are available in Aus for a limited time.
See-
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/F28375 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/F28375)
Got an email from Festool inviting me to a Sydney based training program:-
"Please note places are limited to 10 people per session to ensure maximum value for participants. Registrations are first in first served.
Further sessions will be scheduled - dates to be confirmed
The Sydney training session will be held at Parramatta District Men's Shed, 1 Fleet Street, North Parramatta on Friday 4th September and Saturday 5th September"
Got an email from Festool inviting me to a Sydney based training program:-
"Please note places are limited to 10 people per session to ensure maximum value for participants. Registrations are first in first served.
Further sessions will be scheduled - dates to be confirmed
The Sydney training session will be held at Parramatta District Men's Shed, 1 Fleet Street, North Parramatta on Friday 4th September and Saturday 5th September"
Didn't get an invite [mad] [sad]
Got an email from Festool inviting me to a Sydney based training program:-
"Please note places are limited to 10 people per session to ensure maximum value for participants. Registrations are first in first served.
Further sessions will be scheduled - dates to be confirmed
The Sydney training session will be held at Parramatta District Men's Shed, 1 Fleet Street, North Parramatta on Friday 4th September and Saturday 5th September"
Didn't get an invite [mad] [sad]
Interesting! I did Kev.
Perhaps they have mixed up their Melb and Sydney email lists! [eek]
@Kev
Festool Sydney Training (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=festool+sydney+training)
Yep, Melbourne training's this Fri/Sat - looking forward to finding out why those from the old country rave about it!
Yep, Melbourne training's this Fri/Sat - looking forward to finding out why those from the old country rave about it!
So Ben and Bohdan, who is who!?
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1653882294825390&id=1443009462579342 (https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1653882294825390&id=1443009462579342)
Oh dear! [eek]
I'm the young whipper-snapper with no eyeballs; @Bohdan is the extra-tall bearded gentleman.
It's been quite interesting so far - I think the main stuff I want to know about is coming tomorrow. Don't ask me how many $$$$ I've already mentally spent today though!!
@Bohdan @benwheeler
Festool Sydney Training (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=festool+sydney+training)
Never knew how search worked on the internet thingy [wink] [big grin]
At least they're not charging a crazy amount of money for this .. hopefully some people will get value out of it.
It'll be interesting to see if they develop a positive reputation for actual training. An extended tool feature demonstration to entice buying won't cut it, it'll have to deliver techniques that really improve proficiency.
Re Vecturo Comp -Would you believe.. Cap, coffee cup and ruler? I'll be able to open a shop for those 3 items soon!
Anyone received the good news yet?
Re the workshop in Melb
Did you get anything to take home?
@Bohdan @benwheeler
Re Vecturo Comp -Would you believe.. Cap, coffee cup and ruler? I'll be able to open a shop for those 3 items soon!
Anyone received the good news yet?
Re the workshop in Melb
Did you get anything to take home?
@Bohdan @benwheeler
Note to self: you've been to too many Festool events recently.
Anyway, my ruler's coming in very handy today :-D
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/13/9657a09ea473347ea36b805438551be4.jpg)Re Vecturo Comp -Would you believe.. Cap, coffee cup and ruler? I'll be able to open a shop for those 3 items soon!
Anyone received the good news yet?
Re the workshop in Melb
Did you get anything to take home?
@Bohdan @benwheeler
Note to self: you've been to too many Festool events recently.
Anyway, my ruler's coming in very handy today :-D
Yes I would! [smile]
They could have had a door prize, not a Kapex but say a CXS.
Anyway do not dismiss those rulers, they are great for measuring up sheet goods.
@Bohdan @benwheeler
Anyone tried the new Carbatec website yet? Much sexier.. Also, there's a 10% off promo til the end of the month. So if, unlike me, you haven't completely blown your budget on Sawstops and Festools, some discounted Veritas gear could be yours!
Perhaps I could stretch the budget to a few Bessey clamps..
Ps sorry for my dimwittedness - didn't get the Peppa pig reference [emoji22]
Anyone tried the new Carbatec website yet? Much sexier..
Ps sorry for my dimwittedness - didn't get the Peppa pig reference [emoji22]
Anyone tried the new Carbatec website yet? Much sexier..
Ps sorry for my dimwittedness - didn't get the Peppa pig reference [emoji22]
Ben
Jigsaw as in JigSaw Puzzle! ABC Kids television programming. Oh well if you still don't get it, let's move on. [smile]
Ben, Kev and DB10
Re the new 'Sexy' Carbatec website. A change yes but I think the old Menu was far more comprehensive and functional.
Re Festool Vecturo Comp, anyone heard anything?
@benwheeler @Kev @DB10
Ben
Jigsaw as in JigSaw Puzzle! ABC Kids television programming. Oh well if you still don't get it, let's move on. [smile]
Ben, Kev and DB10
Re the new 'Sexy' Carbatec website. A change yes but I think the old Menu was far more comprehensive and functional.
Re Festool Vecturo Comp, anyone heard anything?
@benwheeler @Kev @DB10
Interesting that this thread started in April 2014 discussing the 'limits' of Carbatec's Customer Experience [eek] and here we are again discussing these limitations over one year later!
Fortunately there has been great and fascinating reading in between! [smile]
Ps sorry for my dimwittedness - . . .
Nope ... I'm beginning to thing the actual workings of a "promotional giveaway" is beyond their ability to comprehend !!
Twenty one days and still no announcement of the Vecturo Comp Winner.
Perhaps, given the out of context quote above, Ben is the winner! Just, he does not realise it, yet! [eek] [big grin]
@benwheeler @Kev
Ps sorry for my dimwittedness - . . .
Nope ... I'm beginning to thing the actual workings of a "promotional giveaway" is beyond their ability to comprehend !!
Twenty one days and still no announcement of the Vecturo Comp Winner.
Perhaps, given the out of context quote above, Ben is the winner! Just, he does not realise it, yet! [eek] [big grin]
@benwheeler @Kev
Someone parked a car in his driveway a year ago .. and to add to the insult a strange company called the RTA is asking him to pay for its registration [eek]
There's no RTA in Victoria mate! Funny you should say that though - we moved house around a year ago, and my spare car lay dormant for a year until I needed it recently..
Where are you hiding? What's going on here?!
(And where's my Vecturo?)
(And where's my Vecturo?)
(And where's my Vecturo?)
Apparently Ben, Nick has it! [eek]
Congratulations Nick. I trust they also shouted you some yogurt. [smile]
http://blog.festool.com.au/general-information/vecturo-competition-winner/ (http://blog.festool.com.au/general-information/vecturo-competition-winner/)
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Kev
I note he is from NSW.
Probably one of the Northern Beaches Festool Bretherin. [big grin]
@benwheeler @Kev
... I get the impression his wife wears the Festool apron! [wink](And where's my Vecturo?)
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Kev
I note he is from NSW.
Probably one of the Northern Beaches Festool Bretherin. [big grin]
@benwheeler @Kev
... I get the impression his wife wears the Festool apron! [wink](And where's my Vecturo?)
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Kev
I note he is from NSW.
Probably one of the Northern Beaches Festool Bretherin. [big grin]
@benwheeler @Kev
Wouldn't that be nice!
[Ie as regards allowing purchases!]
@Kev
... I get the impression his wife wears the Festool apron! [wink](And where's my Vecturo?)
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Kev
I note he is from NSW.
Probably one of the Northern Beaches Festool Bretherin. [big grin]
@benwheeler @Kev
Wouldn't that be nice!
[Ie as regards allowing purchases!]
@Kev
My better half it pushing me to go and buy a bunch of 36V Stihl gardening gear as I type this .. she wants the pole pruner, blower, hedger and is contemplating the mower. I'll probably draw the line at the mower, but if I instead add an electric chain saw and brush cutter (the chain saw on the pole pruner isn't that big) I can refresh a load of gear that's old (not really), in need of service (not really), boring and noisy (yah, got it).
But !!! I suppose I am curious about the mower. It you stay on top of the garden and keep it "manicured" it's probably a good choice.
To be clear, this is for a suburban lot - I have no delusion about what's needed for a real plot of dirt!! [wink]
Do not underestimate that mower as you have only a suburban allotment.
Welcome Scottan.
Where are you living in area - Nth, Sth, East, West?
http://youtu.be/lDi9uFcD7XI (http://youtu.be/lDi9uFcD7XI)NO WAY [eek] [eek] [eek]
Yep I agree Kev, that is complete garbage. Must be using the Aus market as a dumping ground for all the leftover 4.2Ah packs.
Oh well, yet another new tool I don't even need to bother looking at.
Where did you get this info Kev? There is no mention that I could find on their Internet site.
If true, a pathetic decision, and as Mike says, probably made by the German HQ to dump old batts.
I was looking fwd to the release of this tool. Even have some Spring projects lined up where I could use it. What to do, buy a skin and one bat and wait for Festool to come to its senses, or just give it a big miss and continue to use the old but trusty corded DeWalt?!
@Kev @Mike B
Where did you get this info Kev? There is no mention that I could find on their Internet site.
If true, a pathetic decision, and as Mike says, probably made by the German HQ to dump old batts.
I was looking fwd to the release of this tool. Even have some Spring projects lined up where I could use it. What to do, buy a skin and one bat and wait for Festool to come to its senses, or just give it a big miss and continue to use the old but trusty corded DeWalt?!
@Kev @Mike B
Sorry, I should have posted the link ...
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564636/SubProducts/564627 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564636/SubProducts/564627)
Hi all, long time lurker here! Since the price fixing business came in I've refused to buy any new gear at full price. Hence its been a dry few months. Just wondering if anyone has heard any whispers of upcoming promos? I thought the last was a little underwhelming so had my fingers crossed for another starting this month. This is looking more and more unlikely... Thanks :)Welcome Scottan
With all the good tools, they have a harder job.
I am sensing that you are no adibing the Koolaid @Kev
... but the local sales and distribution is giving me the toms.
... but the local sales and distribution is giving me the toms.
toms?
I suppose that it "'toms' you to tears"?
I will probably have to wait a couple of weeks before I can get the domino out again. That recharges my Kool-aid.
... but the local sales and distribution is giving me the toms.
toms?
I suppose that it "'toms' you to tears"?
Nope .. rhyming slang .. tom tits = 5h!+5
... but the local sales and distribution is giving me the toms.
toms?
I suppose that it "'toms' you to tears"?
Nope .. rhyming slang .. tom tits = 5h!+5
Yep.. I think he got it!
Don't bother entering Ben, you would be wasting your time! [smile]
But in case you do, Good Luck.
Who knows.. Maybe Kev could win with 50 words of brutal honesty?
News Flash - Deceased canary enters and wins Festool competition - I can't wait to see the photo from the prize giving event. ClassicWho knows.. Maybe Kev could win with 50 words of brutal honesty?
No, I'm going to get my wife, daughter, son, father, sister, brother-in-law, mother-in-law, dog and deceased canary to enter on my behalf. I'll win all nine prizes, but won't actually want any of them .. so I'll list them on eBay France for my very best friend to acquire at about 5% below RRP.
I will be looking to acquire nine tool brand t-shirts specifically for the promotional tool prize giving picture events ... I'm thinking Mafell, Metabo, Bosch, Dewalt, Hitachi, Makita .. then Ryobi, Triton and Ozito for the dud prizes.
[big grin] [wink]
I'd prefer some decent 'promotions' rather than a series of competitions requiring entrants to write fifty words of ingratiating comments.
He's pining for the fjords!
He's pining for the fjords!
Or he is Holden out...
Where is this strange foreign land called "Melbourne" ?
I might pop in on Friday arvo. I think the diamond cutting system would be awesome. I never actually have to cut concrete / tiles etc. What other justification could I use?
I might pop in on Friday arvo. I think the diamond cutting system would be awesome. I never actually have to cut concrete / tiles etc. What other justification could I use?
Fibro / weatherboard sheets, etc.
We've been known to use that stuff in the warmer zones - no sure about "Melbourne"
[wink]
I might pop in on Friday arvo. I think the diamond cutting system would be awesome. I never actually have to cut concrete / tiles etc. What other justification could I use?
Fibro / weatherboard sheets, etc.
We've been known to use that stuff in the warmer zones - no sure about "Melbourne"
[wink]
I might pop in on Friday arvo. I think the diamond cutting system would be awesome. I never actually have to cut concrete / tiles etc. What other justification could I use?
Fibro / weatherboard sheets, etc.
We've been known to use that stuff in the warmer zones - no sure about "Melbourne"
[wink]
[big grin]
No further comment than this required -
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sydney-storms-thousands-of-homes-without-power-as-rain-wind-lash-nsw/story-fni0cx12-1227313192720 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sydney-storms-thousands-of-homes-without-power-as-rain-wind-lash-nsw/story-fni0cx12-1227313192720)
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@Kev
@Untidy Shop Demo day Sounds fun. Unfortunately I'm only allowed into the big city once a year and that will be in two weeks time.. So come on then, tease us..... what was in the swag bags?
To be fair, this time I emailed them directly, rather than FB; received a kind reply and it has been rectified [ie no Festool Sporrans Kev [smile]].
@Kev @jjowen
I weakened [embarassed]
Today - Vecturo and HL850 ... and that's after the Freehand Diamond Cutter and FS-AG-2 on Saturday [huh]
No HKC55's in the shop, otherwise I would have got one of them too.
So I've also got two 90th Compartment Systainers too [smile]
This on . . . . . . .
I'll only invest in a Festool product via Oz distribution when I need it as they're doing absolutely nothing to separate me from my money. . . . .
I weakened [embarassed]
Today - Vecturo and HL850 ... and that's after the Freehand Diamond Cutter and FS-AG-2 on Saturday [huh]
No HKC55's in the shop, otherwise I would have got one of them too.
So I've also got two 90th Compartment Systainers too [smile]
Haha, oh boy, you sure showed them!!
...Seriously though, I'm interested in your impressions of the planer and Vecturo. I couldn't see myself spending a grand on a multi-tool at this point, unless there's something magical that makes it so much better than the competition. If I was doing more carpentry at the moment the HKC55 and HL850 would be on the list.
This on . . . . . . .
I'll only invest in a Festool product via Oz distribution when I need it as they're doing absolutely nothing to separate me from my money. . . . .
Just a reminder Kev; you wrote this on August 17th! [eek] [eek] That is by my count, three purchases ago! [smile] [big grin] [big grin]
You were not out for the knockout long! [smile]
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Enjoy, and I am particularly interested on your thoughts re the HL850.
@Kev
Anyone heard re winning 90th annerversary CXS comp?
Trust we are all enjoying and entering the 9 tools in 9 weeks comp! [smile]
quote - No, I'm going to get my wife, daughter, son, father, sister, brother-in-law, mother-in-law, dog and deceased canary to enter on my behalf.
How are the relations and pets going Kev? [big grin]
@Kev
Anyone heard re winning 90th annerversary CXS comp?
Trust we are all enjoying and entering the 9 tools in 9 weeks comp! [smile]
quote - No, I'm going to get my wife, daughter, son, father, sister, brother-in-law, mother-in-law, dog and deceased canary to enter on my behalf.
How are the relations and pets going Kev? [big grin]
@Kev
As Week 7 ends, has anyone heard any good news, including the 90th Aniversary CXS?
A N Y O N E?
All very quite over here as well.
@Kev Has your new brushless Metabo angle grinder with the new Hi-Li batteries turned up yet? My dealer still hasn't managed to get any stock in, I would be interested to know your initial thoughts when you get your hands on it.
@Kev Thanks for the heads up on the Metabo Kits.
I'm pretty much just cutting the usual stuff that you would use an angle grinder for, although I have been cutting quite a bit of 19mm cement sheets lately, If I happen to have much more of this to cut I would probably just buy the Festool Diamond tipped blade for the TS 55 and use that.
But ultimately I want to get away from having a cable on my angle grinder and the cordless angle grinder I have is an old Makita non brushless running on old batteries. So I thought when I upgrade, if I switch over to the new Metabo cordless angle grinder with the Hi-Li 6.2 batteries I'll be able to use these new batteries on my SCMS as well.
Kev,
what type of wood carving blade are you intending to use and can you re-position the battery, from the pic it looks as though it can be turned around to suit the job?
Kev,
what type of wood carving blade are you intending to use and can you re-position the battery, from the pic it looks as though it can be turned around to suit the job?
@Larso
Yes, the battery holder "neck" rotates to give you clearance for different attack angles.
I'll grab a Turboplane and an Industrial Woodcarver from Arbotech.
(must admit I've been curious about their power chisel and mini grinder too)
I had an early Woodcarver on a Hitachi that I sold a while back .. it was a dumb move to get rid of it in all honesty, along with pedestal drill, scroll saw and Makita laminate trimmer. I really don't know what was going through my mind when I did that [embarassed] [sad]
http://www.bunnings.com.au/bosch-710w-corded-bench-drill_p6200464 (http://www.bunnings.com.au/bosch-710w-corded-bench-drill_p6200464)
@Kev @Larso.
Let us know how they go when you have used them,don't know what i would do with them but they wont be lonely with all the other things i have bought just in case they come in handy.I like the rotating battery although i am not sure how often you will use this,better to have a function and not use it than want one you don't have in the middle of a job though.I don't think I was mentally stable at the time [eek]
BTW the original plastic orange dogs from the workmate fit in the MFT,not perfectly but well enough for most things.
My makita laminate trimmer is one of only two plug in tools i carry in my van and couldn't do without it.Apparently a cordless one from makita is coming soon and it is made to suit the optional spring loaded and angled bases of the latest corded one.Hopefully it is a decent tool,i have used a friends cordless ryobi and for laminate trimming and routing hinge recesses it is pretty good but top heavy in use.
If you don't need a heavy duty drill the electronic bench drill in Bosch green at Bunnings looks like a reasonable option for most tasks.
Cant believe you sold tools i really struggle with that even when i clearly have no need for them,surprisingly i have found it easier to give them to family members then rather sell them off.My nephew refers to me as his favourite uncle which i am sure is because of the free kit he goes home with every time he visits.
@Kev@Holmz
Which one did you have?
@Holmz
Found it in Adelaide for you ...
https://adelaidetools.com.au/cordless-tools/metabo-cordless-kits/metabo-18v-6-2ah-125mm-brushless-paddle-switch-angle-grinder-kit-wpb18ltxbl.html
@Holmz
Found it in Adelaide for you ...
https://adelaidetools.com.au/cordless-tools/metabo-cordless-kits/metabo-18v-6-2ah-125mm-brushless-paddle-switch-angle-grinder-kit-wpb18ltxbl.html
@Holmz @Kev
Adelaide Tools have been showing this online and in stock for a while now but when I checked on Monday they still hadn't got it in store and they didn't know when they were likely to receive it.
...
I need a high precision pedestal drill for some of the things I have planned - like the one I had [crying]
Sorry @Kev - I was referring to which drill did you have?...
I need a high precision pedestal drill for some of the things I have planned - like the one I had [crying]
I am curious about this one .. http://www.redfoxmachinery.com.au/product/b28h-pedestal-drill-press/ (http://www.redfoxmachinery.com.au/product/b28h-pedestal-drill-press/) but I've never heard of RedFox
I know its been mentioned on plenty of different threads but thought everyone should know 5.2ah batteries are available in Au now.
My local supplier doesnt have any in stock yet but they can be ordered.
Apparently a new makita cordless nail gun range on its way but no details of what they are,talk of Milwaukee range as well but not soon so you might want to hang on to the fusion for a while and see what happens with other brands.The dewalt is out there now if you cant wait.
Did you buy the fusion expect a nailer some where down the track like i did.Some times it pays to wait a little before jumping in.
If you do end up with some dewalt guns the battery is the same one in their excellent cordless multitool so maybe dewalt could work out
Brushless 18v and 36v makita recip saws to be released next year,and the garden tools are surprisingly good on the Makita platform as well.
Metabo brushless cant be too far down the track though.
Yes @Kev I'm interested in knowing why you're getting rid of the Senco too. I've had mine for a few years, but it's only been used
for one major job. I was very happy with it..
Ps bought mine from overseas when the dollar was flying high. Even with buying a $100 transformer plus paying for shipping, I was a few hundred dollars ahead. Crazy..
...while the Senco is in a state that holds most of it's value!Hmm.. Good point. I should probably sell up since I haven't used it for a couple of years, and use air tools for any occasional jobs..
Now that I've invested in Metabo batteries the scene is set for me to get a cordless recipro ... If the need hits soon it'll be the current (and very average) Metabo cordless recipro, otherwise I'll try and hold out for a brushless Metabo or a Festool offering.
I could also be looking to get rid of my Senco Fusion and grab the Dewalt cordless framer and finisher pair when they hit ... putting the evil yellow in my camp as an option too [sad]
For some sad reason I dug our my cordless Dremel multi tool the other day to cut one thin rusted screw in a garden gate I was repairing ... it couldn't do it, such a sad little tool!! Metabo cordless angle grinder to the rescue [big grin]
Why not paslode?
Why not paslode?
The Sencos and DeWalts are gasless..
After the Senco came out one of my store reps said they were dropping it as they were use getting to many coming back from being unreliable.
I've actually never seen a gasless gun used onsite.
Sure paslode require gas and have there issues but aren't they the best out of the bunch available other than going back to air guns?
I'm more curious than anything
http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b6f3c69ae3721143f67db2411&id=f5518d8447&e=4ef4b2d347 (http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b6f3c69ae3721143f67db2411&id=f5518d8447&e=4ef4b2d347)
Finally!
@Kev
http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b6f3c69ae3721143f67db2411&id=f5518d8447&e=4ef4b2d347 (http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b6f3c69ae3721143f67db2411&id=f5518d8447&e=4ef4b2d347)I couldn't see any mention of whether the bonus battery is a 5.2 or a 4.2v, just says plus 18v Bonus Battery!
Finally!
@Kev
I assumed the most likely; still 4.2 stock to move.http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b6f3c69ae3721143f67db2411&id=f5518d8447&e=4ef4b2d347 (http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b6f3c69ae3721143f67db2411&id=f5518d8447&e=4ef4b2d347)I couldn't see any mention of whether the bonus battery is a 5.2 or a 4.2v, just says plus 18v Bonus Battery!
Finally!
@Kev
http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b6f3c69ae3721143f67db2411&id=f5518d8447&e=4ef4b2d347 (http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b6f3c69ae3721143f67db2411&id=f5518d8447&e=4ef4b2d347)I couldn't see any mention of whether the bonus battery is a 5.2 or a 4.2v, just says plus 18v Bonus Battery!
Finally!
@Kev
I'm currently looking at overhauling my entire onsite setup atm, getting a new trailer built around fitting systainers and transfering all of my tools into T-loc systainers and sortainers. I've got too much wasted space from boxes etc.
Anyone know of the best place in Aus to purchase systainers, also is it possible to get Tanos systainers over here that aren't upwards of $250 a pop?
Awesome thanks mate.
Was thinking of possibly buying direct from Germany posting to a UK parcel forwarder, anyone done this? I've done it for US stuff in the past, it's quite good. The language barrier though..
There's also an Italy based dealer that sells on Ebay and ships to Aus, anyone use him before? Been thinking of buying a 700 XL and his price is a good 700 cheaper than here.
I'm currently looking at overhauling my entire onsite setup atm, getting a new trailer built around fitting systainers and transfering all of my tools into T-loc systainers and sortainers. I've got too much wasted space from boxes etc.
Anyone know of the best place in Aus to purchase systainers, also is it possible to get Tanos systainers over here that aren't upwards of $250 a pop?
Finally a good Festool Australia discount:
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/F28456/SubProducts/F28456 (http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/F28456/SubProducts/F28456)
Bought 10 of them, good start for the systainer conversion
Just picked up 7. Awesome at $29 each. [big grin]
Think I will grab another 7 on monday. [embarassed]
I'm currently looking at overhauling my entire onsite setup atm, getting a new trailer built around fitting systainers and transfering all of my tools into T-loc systainers and sortainers. I've got too much wasted space from boxes etc.
Anyone know of the best place in Aus to purchase systainers, also is it possible to get Tanos systainers over here that aren't upwards of $250 a pop?
Dont know if you noticed but the 90th aniversary Sys 1's are only $29 at the momment, just bought 20 because of the price. Its only a $50+ saving of a regular sys 1
Dont know if you noticed but the 90th aniversary Sys 1's are only $29 at the momment, just bought 20 because of the price. Its only a $50+ saving of a regular sys 1
Dont know if you noticed but the 90th aniversary Sys 1's are only $29 at the momment, just bought 20 because of the price. Its only a $50+ saving of a regular sys 1
Peer pressure [sad]
I just ordered 10. Not even using the two I already have [embarassed]
Dont know if you noticed but the 90th aniversary Sys 1's are only $29 at the momment, just bought 20 because of the price. Its only a $50+ saving of a regular sys 1
Peer pressure [sad]
I just ordered 10. Not even using the two I already have [embarassed]
Where'd you order them Kev? I looked at them this morning, then decided to call a shop tomorrow, being tight trying to avoid shipping. Then when I saw that everyone's buying them up, I tried to order some this evening on the Festool site and it was rejected..
[quotes author=Kev link=topic=32415.msg426241#msg426241 date=1446693654]I'm currently looking at overhauling my entire onsite setup atm, getting a new trailer built around fitting systainers and transfering all of my tools into T-loc systainers and sortainers. I've got too much wasted space from boxes etc.
Anyone know of the best place in Aus to purchase systainers, also is it possible to get Tanos systainers over here that aren't upwards of $250 a pop?
There's a Aussie FOG member than can import in bulk - I'll dig up his details for you. Gets all the cool Tanos range.
Good news on the Tanos front, I can make a pallet load order happen at a reasonable price. Bad news is that I need to place an order this week to connect with the cheap shipping I have access to. Other bad news (for me) is that the container lands in Melbourne instead of the Gold Coast, but I reckon a motorhome relocation holiday/roadtrip will fix that problem
Realistically that doesn't leave a lot of time to organise a group buy and collect money, but to get to a decent discount from Tanos it really needs to be a full pallet, and I just don't need that many systainers in my life.
Sooo, if people send me a request via PM for what they want, I'll add it to the order until i reach a pallet load. No payment up front (there's still a chance I won't make the shipping cut-off), but you'll only have 2 weeks to pay (direct transfer or paypal) after it lands in Australia before I put it on ebay.
Pricing will be as per Tanos 2015 pricelist (tanos.de - service- downloads)except for the Tloc Sortainers and SYS-combis which are available on the tanos website or in the 2016 pricelist if you can find it.
Further price reduction will be based on discount received from Tanos - 20% to cover customs/European transport/international money transfers/shrinkage/risk/stress etc.
So if the order is big enough and I get a 30% discount from tanos, the price to the individual will be 10% (30%-20%) less than the tanos rrp* the exchange rate. Based on current exchange rate, that means an empty SysIV would be around $82AUD.
All shipping in Australia to be the responsibility of the purchaser, but it looks like I can arrange pickup in Melbourne or the Gold Coast. Can also package up an order for pickup by courier.
also, it needs to fit in a systainer or maxi-sys to maximise the shipping volume, so no roll carts or tanos mobil
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Whoops!
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Whoops!
Yeh [embarassed]
The ten that just got delivered here, along with the two I received recently with new tools, has put me in the same position!
All the inserts where in-stock lat week. All the coloured systainers should be available, but I guess there's always a chance that they might be low on a few items. The only one they didn't have were the rolls of anti-slip matting, but that's not really a systainer thingIn case anybody was wondering what a pallet load of systainers looks like, here is a photo of the order I did back in 2012.
Just to out do you all, I ordered -
One!
[big grin] [big grin] [smile]
@Kev @benwheeler @Holmz @Mr_Mod
Today I called into a local Festool dealer. While there I thought I'd pick up a spare blade for my Kapex 120. I asked for a price and was quoted $239. I asked if this was the best price and the sales assistant said they only discount on orders over $10,000!! Any suggestions on alternative blades?
@Kev
For reasons like this, was my thinking and justification why I initially went for the cordless Metabo miter saw, apart from the mobility of course I wanted to take some of the lesser cuts away from the Kapex. I for one couldn't afford to cut laminate flooring on a Kapex
I have just put my second new Erwin blade on the Metabo and at $32 per blade you don't need to worry.
neelman's post just shows how we get ripped off down here at times.
All of which is one of the reasons I am ensuring that my trusty Makita Compound stays in good condition. Currently has a FLAI installed.
Since suggesting I would purchase a KAPEX here on the FOG around two years ago I have purchased three other FESTOOLS. I no longer see the Kapex as a justified purchase. When the Makita goes, will most likely look at corded Metabo or Milwaukie.
Next FESTOOl purchase will most likely be a HKC but am awaiting either for -
. News I won it in the recent Festool Comp (fat chance),
. The corded version to be released in Aus.
@Kev @DB10 @Michael1960
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As an aside at the hardware this afternoon when selling a Blue Bosch drill, the customer tradie said its a pity you guys do not sell Festool! [eek] [eek] [eek]
All of which is one of the reasons I am ensuring that my trusty Makita Compound stays in good condition. Currently has a FLAI installed.
Since suggesting I would purchase a KAPEX here on the FOG around two years ago I have purchased three other FESTOOLS. I no longer see the Kapex as a justified purchase. When the Makita goes, will most likely look at corded Metabo or Milwaukie.
Next FESTOOl purchase will most likely be a HKC but am awaiting either for -
. News I won it in the recent Festool Comp (fat chance),
. The corded version to be released in Aus.
@Kev @DB10 @Michael1960
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As an aside at the hardware this afternoon when selling a Blue Bosch drill, the customer tradie said its a pity you guys do not sell Festool! [eek] [eek] [eek]
All of which is one of the reasons I am ensuring that my trusty Makita Compound stays in good condition. Currently has a FLAI installed.
Since suggesting I would purchase a KAPEX here on the FOG around two years ago I have purchased three other FESTOOLS. I no longer see the Kapex as a justified purchase. When the Makita goes, will most likely look at corded Metabo or Milwaukie.
Next FESTOOl purchase will most likely be a HKC but am awaiting either for -
. News I won it in the recent Festool Comp (fat chance),
. The corded version to be released in Aus.
@Kev @DB10 @Michael1960
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As an aside at the hardware this afternoon when selling a Blue Bosch drill, the customer tradie said its a pity you guys do not sell Festool! [eek] [eek] [eek]
@Untidy Shop
I REALLY want to know what you said in response to that!
All of which is one of the reasons I am ensuring that my trusty Makita Compound stays in good condition. Currently has a FLAI installed.
Since suggesting I would purchase a KAPEX here on the FOG around two years ago I have purchased three other FESTOOLS. I no longer see the Kapex as a justified purchase. When the Makita goes, will most likely look at corded Metabo or Milwaukie.
Next FESTOOl purchase will most likely be a HKC but am awaiting either for -
. News I won it in the recent Festool Comp (fat chance),
. The corded version to be released in Aus.
@Kev @DB10 @Michael1960
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As an aside at the hardware this afternoon when selling a Blue Bosch drill, the customer tradie said its a pity you guys do not sell Festool! [eek] [eek] [eek]
I've never used a Kapex, but owned a few Makita's, used DeWalts and Milwaukee's, I bought a 12" Bosch GCM with the axial action about 12 months ago, easily the best drop saw I've ever used.
All of which is one of the reasons I am ensuring that my trusty Makita Compound stays in good condition. Currently has a FLAI installed.@Untidy Shop
Since suggesting I would purchase a KAPEX here on the FOG around two years ago I have purchased three other FESTOOLS. I no longer see the Kapex as a justified purchase. When the Makita goes, will most likely look at corded Metabo or Milwaukie.
Next FESTOOl purchase will most likely be a HKC but am awaiting either for -
. News I won it in the recent Festool Comp (fat chance),
. The corded version to be released in Aus.
@Kev @DB10 @Michael1960
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As an aside at the hardware this afternoon when selling a Blue Bosch drill, the customer tradie said its a pity you guys do not sell Festool! [eek] [eek] [eek]
@DB10
That fan looks "cool" ... I've got too many Syslites to consider Metabo lighting at the moment, but a fan could be useful.
Congrats Untidy!
Perhaps FOGgers are automatically disqualified as fanboys who need no further encouragement?
But the good news is I just got the all clear on a large Polyp recently removed from my bowel.
@Kev
Congrats Untidy!
Perhaps FOGgers are automatically disqualified as fanboys who need no further encouragement?
But the good news is I just got the all clear on a large Polyp recently removed from my bowel.
@Kev
That's the sort of news I like to hear [thumbs up]
(is the use of the thumbs up emoji in good taste in this context?)
@Untidy Shop
http://blog.festool.com.au (http://blog.festool.com.au)
I won the c18
Cheers
Bryan
As toy can see, I've won all nine tools and there's flying me to Hawaii for the gifting ceremony ...
I don't think any of those winners are FOGgers and I'd find that really hard to believe!
I'm consoling myself because I already have all of the prize tools anyway, but anything would have been cool for my son [sad]
I suppose I'm just lucky in love [wink] [big grin]
Well - I fancy the idea of using lacquer. Where does on get it in Oz?
The Bunnings expert said poly-ureathane is lacquer.
I am no chemist, but my spelling ain't to bad.
No doubt those Ausies on the 'Just Tools' email list would have received the news tonight that, like the Canadians, our Festool prices will rise from 5-8 percent on Jan 1St.
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Well - I fancy the idea of using lacquer. Where does on get it in Oz?
The Bunnings expert said poly-ureathane is lacquer.
I am no chemist, but my spelling ain't to bad.
No doubt those Ausies on the 'Just Tools' email list would have received the news tonight that, like the Canadians, our Festool prices will rise from 5-8 percent on Jan 1St.
(Attachment Link)
Well - I fancy the idea of using lacquer. Where does on get it in Oz?
The Bunnings expert said poly-ureathane is lacquer.
I am no chemist, but my spelling ain't to bad.
PPG Precat lacquer is available from the Haymes store in Geelong in various gloss levels.
Well - I fancy the idea of using lacquer. Where does on get it in Oz?
The Bunnings expert said poly-ureathane is lacquer.
I am no chemist, but my spelling ain't to bad.
PPG Precat lacquer is available from the Haymes store in Geelong in various gloss levels.
It is a long drive to Geelong (go the Cats), but I have contacted Durabond.
What is the experience with a 2-pac automotive clear? I suspect that the coefficient of expansion is not well matched to wood so it might craze. But it is locally available.
I am looking to apply it onto Veneer, which could be tung/linseed oiled first...
I suppose some test pieces might be what I SHOULD do?
Between the price rises, fixed pricing and the sad state of promotional catalogues, I really feel Tooltechnic are putting all their eggs in one basket - that being the quality of the actual Festool product. Somewhat risky seen s its the only thing they don't directly have any control over.
Tooltechnic are doing a fantastic job of removing any and all goodwill I feel towards them or my interest in new Festool products. Wonder if/how that's translating to profits?
No doubt those Ausies on the 'Just Tools' email list would have received the news tonight that, like the Canadians, our Festool prices will rise from 5-8 percent on Jan 1St.
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@Untidy Shop
Not impressed with this. I wouldn't be surprised to see Festool dumped by Just Tools and others (when I say Festool, I'm really saying Tooltechnic). If I was a Festool re-seller in Australia I'd be making certain the lion share of my income wasn't dependent on them.
Festool bread and butter differentiation of DC, track saw, etc is fast vanishing ..
Save for anything new and the odd spend on crazily overpriced consumables, there's probably less than half a dozen Festools in the current range that I may buy. I'm in no rush either as none impact anything I need today or in the near future.
Between the price rises, fixed pricing and the sad state of promotional catalogues, I really feel Tooltechnic are putting all their eggs in one basket - that being the quality of the actual Festool product. Somewhat risky seen s its the only thing they don't directly have any control over.Mike - well said.
Tooltechnic are doing a fantastic job of removing any and all goodwill I feel towards them or my interest in new Festool products. Wonder if/how that's translating to profits?
Today, in Melbourne, I visited my favourite dealer. Noted plenty of signs offering 10-20% discount on accessories. Twenty percent on related accessories if you purchased a Festool tool. [smile]
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I also looked at some Milwaukie drills for the first time. Thought the finish was a little rough on some edges. Was surprised by this. Leaving aside Festool, the Metabo finish looked much better.
Happy new year to fellow members!
@Untidy Shop My Carve . . . . . . .
That $50 dollar cash back isn't a cash back it's $50 dollar off your next tool spend. So it means more money spent to save a few dollar.
How about a decent promotion like introducing a discount on newly released products for a limited time, something like $50 off the new CTL Sys or $25 off of the new systainers just to get the year started.
http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/Store/Shops/tooltechnic/MediaGallery/files/campaigns/Festool_Jan-
http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/Store/Shops/tooltechnic/MediaGallery/files/campaigns/Festool_Jan-
@Untidy Shop
Am I reading the brochure correctly?
Container Boxes
Plastic container box 60x60x71/6 SYS-SB | 500066 | $19
Plastic container box 60x120x71/4 SYS-SB | 500067 | $23
Plastic container box 180x120x71/2 SYS-SB | 500068 | $25
For stupid little plastic boxes ... does the /n mean you get n for the $'s ?
Cripes!!
Silly question......
I know the tools cannot be purchased through Amazon et al, but what about the accessories. Some of the accessories appear to be cheaper on Amazon et al than they do through Tooltechnics.
Regards
Graham
Fair enough.
I guess that I need to judge each case on its individual merits. There are some things like the quick action clamps that you can almost get 2 for the price of one, as they are $89.00 each locally.
Regards
Graham
As @Kev mentioned a few years ago when the Ausie dollar was high it was an attractive proposition to purchase from overseas. But now it hardly seems worth the bother especially for items like clamps. When you factor in the airmail charges and possible long wait because the overseas dealer says he has something in stock and he doesn't and then you find out the item you ordered is on back order with Germany and then add to that the risk of items just not turning up, suddenly popping into a local store and picking things up becomes pretty hassle free.Fair enough.
I guess that I need to judge each case on its individual merits. There are some things like the quick action clamps that you can almost get 2 for the price of one, as they are $89.00 each locally.
Regards
Graham
A few years back, buying Festool accessories and consumables from the US made A LOT of sense. I got several big boxes full of "stuff" back then. The crash of the Aussie dollar relative to the $US has made it less attractive. It's also far less attractive from UK/Europe.
There's several US manufactured things I looking at buying but I'm hesitant as I don't think it's the optimal time to buy if I don't have an immediate need.
Festool hasn't made it great for shops seller there products have they....
Other than hopefully the shop person can answer a question a question or two you may have or advise this way or that way but other than that why wouldn't you just order it from festool direct and have it delivered to your door.
Eg, I could order the ctl sys and probably have it delivered to my door by Thursday, maybe Friday at the latest or I can have the closest festool dealer hold one for me when they come in , maybe Friday and then drive 35 mins each way
Festool hasn't made it great for shops seller there products have they....
Other than hopefully the shop person can answer a question a question or two you may have or advise this way or that way but other than that why wouldn't you just order it from festool direct and have it delivered to your door.
Eg, I could order the ctl sys and probably have it delivered to my door by Thursday, maybe Friday at the latest or I can have the closest festool dealer hold one for me when they come in , maybe Friday and then drive 35 mins each way
If you buy online directly from Festool Australia and you need warranty service will Festool organise pick up from your home / place of business? I would not want to take it to a retailer when I bought on line. Why should a dealer support me when they are not involved in the transaction. In any case my nearest dealer is a pretty ordinary outfit....
If you buy online directly from Festool Australia and you need warranty service will Festool organise pick up from your home / place of business? I would not want to take it to a retailer when I bought on line. Why should a dealer support me when they are not involved in the transaction. In any case my nearest dealer is a pretty ordinary outfit....
My info is that the dealer that you nominated gets a slice and is therefor the one required to handle the warranty claim.
If you buy online directly from Festool Australia and you need warranty service will Festool organise pick up from your home / place of business? I would not want to take it to a retailer when I bought on line. Why should a dealer support me when they are not involved in the transaction. In any case my nearest dealer is a pretty ordinary outfit....
My info is that the dealer that you nominated gets a slice and is therefor the one required to handle the warranty claim.
Are you an optimist or a realist?
If you buy online directly from Festool Australia and you need warranty service will Festool organise pick up from your home / place of business? I would not want to take it to a retailer when I bought on line. Why should a dealer support me when they are not involved in the transaction. In any case my nearest dealer is a pretty ordinary outfit....My understanding is the same as Bohdan's, so that means if you buy lets say an RO 150 on line and your tool needs to go back to service for repair, it will be down to you to get the RO 150 back to your nominated store. They then contact Festool, who send a courier out to collect your tool from the store, well that's how it works in theory in reality there is a lot that can go wrong.
In theory the repair on my Mafell tools would problematic, but I doubt I need to progress past a theoretical chin scratching.
People talk about the great repair and warranty on Festool gear.
That should be more theoretical than experiential, and not an expectation that it will certainly be required in due time.
"Up to me to get it back to my nearest store", is 1600+km in any direction.
At that point I might as well order a new one right from Germany, as I can get stuff couriered around the world faster than from the Eastern suburbs to most other states.
Luckily the courier picked up my CT26 and returned it, and I did not need to drive interstate.
@Untidy ShopOh, Really !!? [big grin]
I wish mine was further away [embarassed] [sad]
@Untidy Shop
I wish mine was further away [embarassed] [sad]
I guess most of us have got used to it by now, but it doesn't mean we like it.Fully agree about price fixing taking the sport out of buying new Festools. It's no fun any more!!!
They (TTS) have taken the sport out of buying new Festools, who doesn't like to find what their looking for cheaper somewhere else from another dealer that you trust. I'd never just go to my local dealer if I was say buying a Dewalt, I would have a good search around first to see what's on offer, then maybe give the local guy a chance to match this price, just like I would if I was purchasing a new fridge.
Shame on the A triple C
I guess most of us have got used to it by now, but it doesn't mean we like it.
They (TTS) have taken the sport out of buying new Festools, who doesn't like to find what their looking for cheaper somewhere else from another dealer that you trust. I'd never just go to my local dealer if I was say buying a Dewalt, I would have a good search around first to see what's on offer, then maybe give the local guy a chance to match this price, just like I would if I was purchasing a new fridge.
Shame on the A triple C
PM sent.
I agree in one regard, at least Festool USA post onto this forum and participate in discussions with the customer base.
I wish TTS would do the same.
Now back to dreaming about the next Festool purchase. Got a box to make [big grin]
Graham
PM sent.
I agree in one regard, at least Festool USA post onto this forum and participate in discussions with the customer base.
I wish TTS would do the same.
Now back to dreaming about the next Festool purchase. Got a box to make [big grin]
Graham
At least it hasn't held me back [big grin]
Festool ETS150/3 followed me home yesterday. Got the deal with a box of sandpaper for free with the sander. Going to be christening it today.
Regards
Graham
At least it hasn't held me back [big grin]
Festool ETS150/3 followed me home yesterday. Got the deal with a box of sandpaper for free with the sander. Going to be christening it today.
Regards
Graham
That's not to be sneezed at, I like the Granat paper but why a box of 100 papers of the same grit when it's a new sander, mixed grits say 10 or 20 of each grit would make more sense. It's an expensive exercise kitting out the 150 with a good selection of papers.
At least it hasn't held me back [big grin]
Festool ETS150/3 followed me home yesterday. Got the deal with a box of sandpaper for free with the sander. Going to be christening it today.
Regards
Graham
That's not to be sneezed at, I like the Granat paper but why a box of 100 papers of the same grit when it's a new sander, mixed grits say 10 or 20 of each grit would make more sense. It's an expensive exercise kitting out the 150 with a good selection of papers.
Unfortunately that was what the deal offered. If you purchased the 150/3 then you got 180 grit paper, if you purchased the 150/5 you got 100 grit paper.
I agree that 20 of all the popular sizes would have been more user friendly. Now I have lots of 180 grit for everything and 1 x disc of 80 grit that came with the sander, and that's it.
As an aside, what grits are you guys buying. As mentioned, I need to stock up. [big grin]
Regards
Graham
You haven't factored in the cost of replacement backing pads and interface pads yet.
For most of my work with the ETS 150, I prefer using the blue hard backing pad over the soft pad that comes with the sander.
Just a side note, I checked the price of a new backing pad and it's being advertised at $71.20 but this includes a 20% limited time discount, this can't be right can it,
as the last one I bought I'm sure was $50 something last year, that makes the new price when the discount ends to be about $85, for a backing pad?
@Kev my mistake I was looking at item, 496210 @ $71.20.You haven't factored in the cost of replacement backing pads and interface pads yet.
For most of my work with the ETS 150, I prefer using the blue hard backing pad over the soft pad that comes with the sander.
Just a side note, I checked the price of a new backing pad and it's being advertised at $71.20 but this includes a 20% limited time discount, this can't be right can it,
as the last one I bought I'm sure was $50 something last year, that makes the new price when the discount ends to be about $85, for a backing pad?
@DB10 surely that's 20% off the current list of $63.20 (Festool website) when you're buying them with a sander ... [eek]
you don't expect to pay $10K for a set of tyres for your car.
@DB10 based on the prices on gettoolsdirect.com.au ... these pads are now $79.00, which says the $63.20 prices is less the 20% discount.
Fixed price ROBBERY !!! [mad]
. . . . .... you don't expect to pay $10K for a set of tyres for your car.
So I guess it's a case of grabbing the blue backing pad ASAP. Looks like the pricing model is a brief discount followed by a price hike.@Grakat You are learning quickly, That Tooltchnic don't give anything away for free.
I see the special on the Domino at the moment. Buy a Domino and get the Domino systainer for free. $1750.00. I think it will be a while before a Domino graces the workshop
@DB10 based on the prices on gettoolsdirect.com.au ... these pads are now $79.00, which says the $63.20 prices is less the 20% discount.
Fixed price ROBBERY !!! [mad]
. . . . .... you don't expect to pay $10K for a set of tyres for your car.
So, Kev I assume you are yet to replace those tyres on the Ferrari!? [smile]
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Re the pads - you only forget to put the sanding disc on once!
So I guess it's a case of grabbing the blue backing pad ASAP. Looks like the pricing model is a brief discount followed by a price hike.@Grakat You are learning quickly, That Tooltchnic don't give anything away for free.
I see the special on the Domino at the moment. Buy a Domino and get the Domino systainer for free. $1750.00. I think it will be a while before a Domino graces the workshop
The price of the domino has gone up quite a bit from last year and by my reckoning has gone up nearly $200 since I first entertained the idea of purchasing one, with the current price structuring the revelation of the domino will unfortunately for me remain a fantasy.
Yes I found that too. Maybe now would be a good time for someone to start an argument with their dealer. [big grin]
Does anybody know how long the DF500 + domino systainer going to be available?
Three weeks since the new price rises and my premium dealer can't be ar*ed to put up any of the new prices, so if you want to know the price of something you have to que up and wait for them to price check it. Couldn't be bothered so left.
BTW hope you all have a great Australia Day. Spent mine getting the lawn under control, as this rain/sun cycle promotes vigorous lawn growth.Hi,
Lamb goes on the Weber tonight. [big grin]
I was told that the Sys Rock is coming to Aus soon.
It's not at the top of my shopping list but it will Be interesting to see how they price it.
I was told that the Sys Rock is coming to Aus soon.
It's not at the top of my shopping list but it will Be interesting to see how they price it.
@DB10
I won't be lining up for it !
The only way I'd end up with one would be if it was a promotional give away.
@Kev when did you buy the TSC 55? And can you spend the voucher on anything Festool or does it have to go towards another power tool.
@Kev The new Sys Rock should be with us before June, not sure if it counts as a power tool though.
@Kev My $50 voucher turned up in the post today, This was also in relation to my TSC 55 purchase. I was a bit surprised as I bought the saw nearly a year ago, got until June to use it, I don't need anything Festool 18v either at the moment, I might take a look again at the HKC.
Does anyone know when the new cordless super cut will hit Australia.
Cheers
Bryan
ROTFL - having a bad day Kev?
Notice anything suddenly missing from the Festool Aust. Sander lineup?
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Categories/Sanders/random-orbital-sanders
Yes it appears there is no ETS150/3.
Yet it still appears on UK site -
https://www.festool.co.uk/Products/Pages/Product-Competence.aspx?foc=online_exzenterschleifer
Am I correct - is it being phased out down here, or in UK/Europe and NA?
Hello All,
Wife gave me my birthday present today. Very happy indeed. Managed to score a Sys4 sort 3 drawer unit. It's going to fit in well.
Are you now sporting three frying pan sized bruises Kev [big grin] Hope she doesn't knoack you out, and then you wake up with a thirst for the Ozito range of tools. [big grin]
Are you now sporting three frying pan sized bruises Kev [big grin] Hope she doesn't knoack you out, and then you wake up with a thirst for the Ozito range of tools. [big grin]
Aussies don't bruise. Those are love pats. [big grin]
Through the 'fog' created by the fry pans,Are you now sporting three frying pan sized bruises Kev [big grin] Hope she doesn't knoack you out, and then you wake up with a thirst for the Ozito range of tools. [big grin]Aussies don't bruise. Those are love pats. [big grin]
Each one creates a beautifully different tone as it clangs up against the side of my head [wink] Ozito? Big difference between impaired and idiot!! [eek]
Life is pretty good down in the Rocks. ;)
Anyone else getting confused other than me?
Anyone else getting confused other than me?
Me too... I got on the plane Wednesday and didn't arrive until Friday. [eek]
Carbatec have a 4 day sale this long weekend - see
http://us11.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d28d6d34d644d1c5dfa25a138&id=b2905025e9&e=80ef83ab64
Carbatec have a 4 day sale this long weekend - see
http://us11.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d28d6d34d644d1c5dfa25a138&id=b2905025e9&e=80ef83ab64
@Untidy Shop And those four day public holiday Carbatec sales used to include 10% off of Festool purchases, which was always a good excuse to top up on consumables, without that now I seldom pop in.
I wonder if ozito ends up like gmc
Following a viewing of Erocks video review of the ETS-EC125/3 I went to check it out on the Australian Website. Thought I might add it to the 'one day' list!
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tool-reviews/video-comparison-of-the-ets-ec-1253-eq-and-ets-125-eq/msg448366/?topicseen#msg448366
Short of embarrassing myself again (See # 591-3 ), I looked and looked and looked! I even checked my Dealer's site and the latest Festool Promotion Catalogue.
So guys, is it available here or not, embarrass me again please!? [eek]
@Kev @Grakat @Locky
Sorry to say Untidy, but not yet I'm sure they will though. I'm heading down to festool hq in Melbourne mid April, so I might see some new products .
Kev lives so close to the beach his timber door is rusting [big grin]
Dilemmas dilemmas. Shall I get the Domino before the sales end or shall I roll the dice and hope it doesn't go up on 1st April.
Ok sounds good. I don't need it right now, in fact would have more work for an OF1400 right now than the Domino.
@Kev
it did not take me long to use the Domino, But the (on the otherhand) I got the Zeta, which seems way more useful and was almost idiot proof. (The joints were also simpler).
If I had real wood and the Hausboss wanted real wood then it may be different.
Secondly the DD40 is also useful.
But then I build a gate and a door and needed the Domino.
If @Grakat needs a 1400 now, then it makes some sense to get the 1400 now.
@Untidy Shop The Festool rep mentioned to me last month that the corded version of the HK 55 was due for release here in Australia around May this year.[/size]
@Untidy Shop The Festool rep mentioned to me last month that the corded version of the HK 55 was due for release here in Australia around May this year.[/size]
Thanks @DB10 . If it is May, that is perfect timing re finances and projects.
Thanks for that @Locky
I've got the Domino set sitting on the floor in front of me so on the price front I should be pretty safe. I think Kev's prediction is getting accurate, the Systainer count is climbing.
I am sure that it's an error! Must be, because it's my favourite dealer.
When publicising that the Festool Promotion ends March 31st, they offer the TXS/CXS Mini Cordless 2.6 sets for A$399 reduced from A$415 when the Tooltechnic price on the Festool website is $399. [eek] Must be the Free Freight! [smile]
http://justtools.com.au/festool-108v-lithium-ion-cxs-mini-cordless-drilladriver-set-564540-cxs-li-26-set
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectID=234617
I have emailed them.
Domino 101 today.
Made a few mistakes but they were in scrap pieces of timber. Finished off the day by using the domino to put together my clamp rack project. The joints are very strong once they are glued up. I tried to seperate one....no chance.
I figure the more I use it the better I will get at it.
@Kev
Agree on the additional dominos. Once I get going I'm going to use a lot.
...
If @Grakat needs a 1400 now, then it makes some sense to get the 1400 now.
@Untidy Shop are you keeping the Wera in a pouch with other essentials? I'm pondering a small acreage future and I'm guessing "the shed" being more than 10 metres away creates some tool logistics issues.
and in NZ
Ka maumahara tonu tatou ki a ratou. We will remember them
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I'm on the path of a couple of jet fighters that always do a low, high speed flyover .. they don't seem to want me to forget . . .
Let's see now; how can we make it just a little bit harder for our customers to enjoy our Facebook page! [blink] [eek]
Is this 'security check' the work if Tooltechnic Aust., or Facebook?
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Probably bagging out their price fixing arrangement while asking them when they are going to do any product demos in NSW.
But you are a preferred customer Kev. I'm guessing you have Valet parking, and they lend you a Sysrock when you go to the drive in movies.
The rest of us plebs get the security check lol
Well at times I have been critical here of Tooltechnics Aust. [smile]That's interesting .. I've asked two questions publicly ... one has been ignored and the other one has vanished [mad]
But today I want to congratulate them and especially Lauree in Marketing.
I have projects coming up that will be enhanced by an HK55 EQ240V; that is, the corded version. My dealers main Festool rep last week did not know, "may be a year"! [eek]
So just now I sent a Message via Festool's Facebook and within 10 mins received the following reply -
Hi Stephen, the HK will be released in Australia but we are waiting for approval here is Australia and supply from Germany. It will be released the second half of this year. Kind regards Lauree (marketing executive Festool Australia)
Outstanding. [smile] [smile]
That's interesting .. I've asked two questions publicly ... one has been ignored and the other one has vanished [mad]@Kev
@Untidy Shop
Will they be bringing out the HK85 in a corded version. I could see a need for that if it was to become available in Australia.
Went to the local premium dealer on Sunday, their stocks seemed down. Didn't even have an RO150 on display [embarassed] There were a few other items not on the shelf either.
Yeah the SDS bits with the BHC skin makes it very tempting.@Locky @Untidy Shop @thylaxene @Grakat
They also have the conturo kit on sale which is a good deal, $923 off
They also have the conturo kit on sale which is a good deal, $923 off
Some time in the very near future at Northern Abrasives -
H E L L O Kev. [big grin]
Edit - A great joke, even if I do say so myself, slammed down by just 19 seconds difference in posting time. [eek]
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Interesting that these additional promotions are not part of the main promotion catalogue. If it was not for Locky and Kev, I would have missed it. Not that these items are on my future list though, but for some customers who are - ??!
@Locky @Kev
Good news on the Tanos front, I can make a pallet load order happen at a reasonable price. Bad news is that I need to place an order this week to connect with the cheap shipping I have access to. Other bad news (for me) is that the container lands in Melbourne instead of the Gold Coast, but I reckon a motorhome relocation holiday/roadtrip will fix that problem
Realistically that doesn't leave a lot of time to organise a group buy and collect money, but to get to a decent discount from Tanos it really needs to be a full pallet, and I just don't need that many systainers in my life.
Sooo, if people send me a request via PM for what they want, I'll add it to the order until i reach a pallet load. No payment up front (there's still a chance I won't make the shipping cut-off), but you'll only have 2 weeks to pay (direct transfer or paypal) after it lands in Australia before I put it on ebay.
Pricing will be as per Tanos 2015 pricelist (tanos.de - service- downloads)except for the Tloc Sortainers and SYS-combis which are available on the tanos website or in the 2016 pricelist if you can find it.
Further price reduction will be based on discount received from Tanos - 20% to cover customs/European transport/international money transfers/shrinkage/risk/stress etc.
So if the order is big enough and I get a 30% discount from tanos, the price to the individual will be 10% (30%-20%) less than the tanos rrp* the exchange rate. Based on current exchange rate, that means an empty SysIV would be around $82AUD.
All shipping in Australia to be the responsibility of the purchaser, but it looks like I can arrange pickup in Melbourne or the Gold Coast. Can also package up an order for pickup by courier.
also, it needs to fit in a systainer or maxi-sys to maximise the shipping volume, so no roll carts or tanos mobil
I think the theme of this promotion is that TTS have a lot of vacuum cleaners to shift. [big grin]
Seems you only get a discount if you buy a tool with the extractor. Even jigsaws, which don't really benefit from the extractor, get the treatment as well. The OF1400 is not on special, that is the normal list price.
Every promotion I've waited to see if the OF2200 set would be discounted ... [sad] never is - so tonight I bit the bullet. One of the few Festools I didn't have that I wanted.
Every promotion I've waited to see if the OF2200 set would be discounted ... [sad] never is - so tonight I bit the bullet. One of the few Festools I didn't have that I wanted.
About time you got your self a real router set.
So I've got some spare systainers, and some where I haven't been able to contact the person who requested them.
If you're interested, it's car boot sale time.
I'll be in the Altona, Melbourne area 5-6 and maybe 7th of May, after that driving back to the Gold Coast with a stopover around the Central coast. Attachment shows the items I have remaining and the prices, part numbers are as per the Tanos catalogue. Contact via PMs.
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Looks like the local dealer has an PS300 barrel version in stock. It's included as part of the promotion this month with a set of blades.
The blade guides look a lot better too. Might have to grab this one......
I'm more interested in the corded line of Festool tools, as I am replacing (and adding to) some tools that I had stolen years ago. Personally I'm not convinced on the cordless range, there are other companies that have more diversity in this area.
However, for the corded stuff......bring it on. [big grin]
Kev,
Ya can't get one shipped in from the UK?
Pricey I know but the folks in the states mange to get stuff from Europe.
Kev,
Ya can't get one shipped in from the UK?
Pricey I know but the folks in the states mange to get stuff from Europe.
Have you enquired with this company. their service is good
http://www.nonpaintstore.nl/
Kev,
Ya can't get one shipped in from the UK?
Pricey I know but the folks in the states mange to get stuff from Europe.
@jobsworth if I was going to ship something that bulky I'd make the load really worthwhile [wink] [big grin]
In reality I think Festool Australia has simply lost touch while the core distributor focuses on other brands. Their recent Conturo bundle is a brilliant example of being short of the mark ... the idea was right, but they missed the target by miles. What they should do is ask the best resource they have for ideas - their customers. Then look at putting the right combinations together for promotion at an attractive price point.
Another great example is the tool and vac combo ... some of us have plenty of vacs, but would happily benefit from a bonus for buying two or more tools (OR vacs) at once. A clever promotion would simply be 1 tool gets 0% discount, 2 tools gets 5% discount, 3 or more tools gets 10%. discount. This is the sort of promo that can engage everyone.
I also feel sorry for the retailers. Lack lustre promotions, along with the enforced Festool Australia retail price maintenance, gives them very little to entice customers desiring anything other than the narrowly focused offers.
I'll also throw in that here in Oz financial year end is June and the various brands are going crackers with promotions to get tradies' money. Though I'm not a tradie, I just went to satisfy my curiosity on some yellow stuff and accidentally dropped $2K in the process. It's a "share of wallet battle" and the phrase "think big to win big" was never more appropriate.
450 Euro before shipping for a Rotex. That's $700 AUD + shipping + new plug it lead.
Agree totally with you @Kev
The biggest risk would be receiving a lemon with no recourse. The pricing model from TTS here in Australia always makes overseas options look attractive. That, in a nutshell is the issue.
@Holmz
I think the biggest problem will be that TTS Melbourne would turn around and refuse to cover the tools when you go to register them. Registering an imported Festool would kick seven kinds of s**t out of their price fixing model. (You cant get it cheaper, except at................)
@Holmz
I think the biggest problem will be that TTS Melbourne would turn around and refuse to cover the tools when you go to register them. Registering an imported Festool would kick seven kinds of s**t out of their price fixing model. (You cant get it cheaper, except at................)
Well I registered it with FT Germany.
I would expect TTS to say no, so I suppose i would send it to Germany.
@Untidy Shop
You'll giggle at this ... went to . . . .
Change of subject, have you guys any thoughts on the Masters situation?
Sad for the employees and the small local business's that rely on the passing trade But what sort of business model sinks millions into setting up a big box store to rival the big B and then pulls the rug out before they have implemented their roll out, apparently some of the incompleted stores will never open.
I visited them a couple of times and bought some lights and the wife saw a kitchen that she liked on display, when we enquired about the kitchen we were told that they can't actually supply that kitchen, apparently it was installed in their show room before they found out that they couldn't actually source the kitchen, from Germany of all places, begs the question why they wern't sourcing local products. The other kitchens that we looked at all had a 12 week lead times and this store was placed right next to IKEA, I wonder how many potential buyers went next door.
I always had a look at the power tools but apart from the odd Hitachi and Panasonic it was the usual cheap buy anywhere tools being touted.
Hi there@Grakat Nope, over in Adelaide, near the Airport, it's only been open for about 18 months.
If you want 600mm and 1000mm Bessey clamps Masters stock them. The last time Carbatec had a sale on them Masters price matched it. They only stock the two sizes though, so get in before the whole lot is gone.
@DB10 was that Masters Marsden Park? They have an IKEA next door.
Well, every computer has a universal power supply so I'm sure building universal motors should be doable but if you try to stick the transformer coils in a tool with high wattage you are introducing a lot of extra heat from the transformation and weight of the coils.
Yes, but what if Festool developed an 'intelligent motor' that could run on multiple power supplies due to chip control. This motor could consequently also deal with long extension cords and power fluctuations, particularly in remote areas or from portable generators.
Reiska, my ignorance beyond the basic physics of electrical conductivity gives me the advantage of challenging the preconceptions of those who really know. [smile]
I still think Kev is on to something here.
Best wishes.
Got to chase up the Festool shop tomorrow.
When I picked up the PS300 it was supposed to come with a special set of jigsaw blades as part of the sale. The jigsaw was in stock (got the last one at the premium dealer) but the blades are on back order.
You would think they would be in stock before the sale. The jigsaw is brilliant though. Very happy with it. [big grin]
Hi all
The wife chased up the blades on Saturday. There wasn't a code number assigned to them when I got the saw but there is a code now. Should have them this week. Big plug to the wife for chasing it up, she did it all on her own accord [big grin]
Been at the in laws stopping up their ceiling cracks. They were impressed when I was able to sand it all back with the ETS150/3 and due to the CT26 was able to get 100% dust extraction.
Now, anybody know where I can hire a Planex?
@Kev Hmmmm let me think.
New Planex from Festool $1989.00
Kevs Planex, low kilometres, one careful lady driver.......$2500
Sounds like an awesome deal, I'll pick it up shortly.....not! [big grin]
Hello All,
Hope none of you are being flooded out at this point in time.
Can anybody shed some light on the Centrotec Installers set. My initial search is showing it as NAIA (not available in Australia). Has anybody got one of these sets? Did you have to import it?
Trust you guys living in the Northern Beaches do not have soggy Festools to deal with. Some 'interesting' storm footage featuring the Northern Beaches on the National News this evening.
@Kev. @Locky
He's getting a message from a hottie with jabba the huts figure and personality right now. She has him pretty greased up. Sadly Kev didn't hire me. I guess it was because the bikini panties I was auditioning in had a print of Barney the Dino on the back.
No accounting for taste huh?
Trust you guys living in the Northern Beaches do not have soggy Festools to deal with. Some 'interesting' storm footage featuring the Northern Beaches on the National News this evening.
,
@Kev. @Locky
@Untidy Shop @Locky
Locky should be high and dry. We're a bit damp, some wet carpet and a a few solid core doors I hadn't sealed may be a problem. People a in a few of the low spots aren't so lucky [sad]
The wind is still howling outside [scared]
Wot, no Milwaukee retail price maintenance lol
We purchased about $3k of the stuff at work, it has all performed flawlessly so far. So far Milwaukee has impressed me.
Did any of you Sydneysiders go to the Timber show this weekend?
AHHH !!!! [scared] [eek] [embarassed]
I'm finding it very hard not to buy stuff under the pressure of my inbox getting smashed by tantalising offers [sad]
Anyone in Oz folded badly on specials?
AHHH !!!! [scared] [eek] [embarassed]Saving all my coin for this years big Festool Spring time sale.
I'm finding it very hard not to buy stuff under the pressure of my inbox getting smashed by tantalising offers [sad]
Anyone in Oz folded badly on specials?
AHHH !!!! [scared] [eek] [embarassed]
I'm finding it very hard not to buy stuff under the pressure of my inbox getting smashed by tantalising offers [sad]
Anyone in Oz folded badly on specials?
Saving all my coin for this years big Festool Spring time sale.
Yes it's a promo not a sale. Is there an ETA on the HK85. Wonder what that puppy will set us back. Price of a small car perhaps?
Built a clamp rack on the weekend, used the PS300 a fair bit. It cut like a hot knife through butter, I love that jigsaw.
So is the HK85 coming to Australia because I need to buy a new skill saw
@Kev if your pricing model is anywhere accurate I will be drooling it as well. Festool haven't really got anything in the big saw lineup for rough sawing other than the TS75.
@Kev if your pricing model is anywhere accurate I will be drooling it as well. Festool haven't really got anything in the big saw lineup for rough sawing other than the TS75.
@Kev if your pricing model is anywhere accurate I will be drooling it as well. Festool haven't really got anything in the big saw lineup for rough sawing other than the TS75.
@Grakat other than the sword saw and the HK132 eh?
@Kev if your pricing model is anywhere accurate I will be drooling it as well. Festool haven't really got anything in the big saw lineup for rough sawing other than the TS75.
@Grakat other than the sword saw and the HK132 eh?
The sword saw is not available down under. I know the HK132 is a beast. I resaw rough lumber to convert it for furniture use, a big saw is a necessity. The TS75 is lower powered than the HK85.
Is that recently available or has it been re released?
Is that recently available or has it been re released?
@Grakat its recent in green, but was available quite a while back in orange.
@Untidy Shop pretty sure you'd need to order Snappy if you want a square drive Centrotec.
Done it too.
My responses very similar to Untidy Shop. Might get to win something........ [big grin]
You'd win a Sysrock Kev. Herr Dr Festool knows how much you love them [big grin]
If anybody has a CXS body that want to get rid of drop me a line. I have the batteries, charger,chucks and systainer but need a replacement body after knocking mine into the water of a marina yesterday, when talking to my supplier today when I went to buy my new PDC 18 they reckon TTS won't sell just the body and I waste enough money on stuff I don't need from festool as it is.
@Kev
Ah, decisions!
I was glad to see the HK55 at tool only, was only a fraction over what I anticipated. I thought $550. However looking at the specs, the HK85 may be better suited to my needs. [eek] Think I might keep saving rather than compromise. Nearly there!
Did I not read that the 85 was better suited to the 670 rail due to the practicality of the larger blade size when compared to the 55? If true why not have the 670 in a rail package?
Last year I needed a piece of Laminex coated MDF to colour match a kitchen door replacement and was quoted over $300 for a sheet, and they couldn't match the edgebanding. It only came in 2400 x 1200 and I couldn't find any local cabinet maker that had any offcuts.
Finished up making new doors and drawers in solid hardwood, it worked out cheaper but did take longer.
Yeah thinking Ryobi One system brad nailer. As they have a stapler as well which might come in handy one day. So having some of their batteries might be good.
Cheers.
Yeah just got the Ryobi brad. So will see how the battery goes.
Cheers.
Hello again
The Masters sale ends this Wednesday. FYI they are good fasteners, the Stainless bolts I got were Bremick. They don't look like they came from the Dong Shing #1 screw factory [big grin]
I only want 2 x 1000mm clamps and then the set is complete. I hope they are some left in Sydney at the rate you lot seem to be buying them up. :-\
That's an awesome price! Care to share the source? ;)
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My late father worked as a maintenance carpenter in that plant for around 15 years until 1975 when he retired. This plants other claim to fame and historical fact of note is that it built the worlds first ever Ute pre WW11.
Expected end, but still a sad day.
Curious how we'll go on the next Festool price hike. I'm betting the price out of Germany will be bumped up for everything to offset their US giveaway spree. I don't begrudge people getting a deal, but I'll be extremely angry if it's funded by other markets. Plus Oz being a "poor cousin" and not a Festool direct business makes us further vulnerable (and then there's the local price fixing).
Haven't seen a decent "special" from Festool Oz in a long time [sad]
Curious how we'll go on the next Festool price hike. I'm betting the price out of Germany will be bumped up for everything to offset their US giveaway spree. I don't begrudge people getting a deal, but I'll be extremely angry if it's funded by other markets. Plus Oz being a "poor cousin" and not a Festool direct business makes us further vulnerable (and then there's the local price fixing).
Haven't seen a decent "special" from Festool Oz in a long time [sad]
Went out to run an errand in the ute.
The ol barstard would not even click.
I checked the lights... (The were off)
Went to pop the bonnet and it was already cracked open.
Looked inside... And no battery.
Call the Coppers to see if they wanted to know.
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Question #6, "Did you see them take it?"
Answer #7, "If I did I would be calling about assault and battery, but I am only calling about the battery."
Luckily I had not yet loaded up the ute.
Went out to run an errand in the ute.
The ol barstard would not even click.
I checked the lights... (The were off)
Went to pop the bonnet and it was already cracked open.
Looked inside... And no battery.
Call the Coppers to see if they wanted to know.
...
Question #6, "Did you see them take it?"
Answer #7, "If I did I would be calling about assault and battery, but I am only calling about the battery."
Luckily I had not yet loaded up the ute.
@Holmz
This is what's wrong with the world ... the thieves are lower that scum. Take the entire car and you'd notice, steal your battery and you wouldn't know - but you could be in a life threatening emergency [mad] [mad] [mad] I mean, just leave the bonnet up or something [sad]
The perfect future for people like this is becoming fertiliser.
It is a system @Kev
I see now that one comment on the Festool Aust FB page which basically told me to 'get over it' [Dont take it so seriously - he is just p__s farting around] has received a 'Like' from Festool Aust.
Very professional! [eek]
If I was them, I would have just ignored me or any comment directed at me by others. [smile]
@Kev @Grakat @Holmz @Michael1960
I see now that one comment on the Festool Aust FB page which basically told me to 'get over it' [Dont take it so seriously - he is just p__s farting around] has received a 'Like' from Festool Aust.
Very professional! [eek]
If I was them, I would have just ignored me or any comment directed at me by others. [smile]
@Kev @Grakat @Holmz @Michael1960
@Untidy Shop I just had to comment too ... [sad]
Edit: And now the whole FB post has been removed! A good descission.[/font]
'One for the Aussies' started with a discussion about Carbatec offering a 10% discount. Well on Boxing Day I bought 4 Bessey K Body 800mm clamps and received a 20% discount. (Storewide *10% off + another 10% for buying 4 or more)That same discount was also available through Carbatec in the lead up to Christmas. It is good that they repeated this for Boxing day. I have enough clamps for the moment, so I resisted the temptation :-)
Really pleased as I didn't have any 800mm.
Good promo Carbatec.
* unfortunately a few brands were excluded. say no more!
Wonder how much?
Then around April there will be a sale......with the prices on select equipment at 2016 prices.
I thought they had to get approval from their mates at the ACCC to increase prices under their price fixing deal. With the letters that the ACCC have received from us about TTTS not meeting their obligations under the price fixing deal the price increase should have been refused.
@Kev
You may have to sell some of those Festools to purchase -
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@Kev
@Kev
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Yes @Untidy Shop we're still looking for a local importer of the Chernobyl Holstein cattle breed ... I believe we could successfully use them for milk, beef and to power the micro reactor on the farm [big grin]
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Who knows, I may even get as radical as @Holmz when it comes to sourcing tools [big grin]
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Who knows, I may even get as radical as @Holmz when it comes to sourcing tools [big grin]
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I have never cheap referred to as radical.
When one can buy a MT55 for less than a locally sourced TS55, it seems a no brainer.
But I was a chemist, then I would prefer to be a free radical.
@Untidy Shop
The last time I read the determination for the price fixing deal there were levels of monitoring for prices across certain tools and pricing had to be reviewed by the ACCC prior to implementation.
Doesn't mean its been followed though, as TTTS do not appear to have held up their end of the bargain.
@Holmz as soon as I settle and get sorted in a new place a DD40 is on the shopping list .. and you know for sure that's a Euro buy!!
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@Holmz as soon as I settle and get sorted in a new place a DD40 is on the shopping list .. and you know for sure that's a Euro buy!!
( I really wish there was one model with a gearbox instead of two [mad] )
@Holmz as soon as I settle and get sorted in a new place a DD40 is on the shopping list .. and you know for sure that's a Euro buy!!
( I really wish there was one model with a gearbox instead of two [mad] )
I'm a builder and hobby joiner.
What advantages applications are there for the DD40 over a domino?
@Holmz as soon as I settle and get sorted in a new place a DD40 is on the shopping list .. and you know for sure that's a Euro buy!!
( I really wish there was one model with a gearbox instead of two [mad] )
I'm a builder and hobby joiner.
What advantages applications are there for the DD40 over a domino?
Well the Festool Jan 1 price rises are now known. For example now -
Kapex 120 - A$1945.00
Domino 500 - A$1550.00
Domino 700 - A$2150.00
TS55R - A$950.00
HK55 with FSK420 - A$835.00
ROTEX 150 - A$965.00
More on Festool Aust. Website.
Overall increases are 'moderate to high''; for example the HK55/FSK420 deal was A$810.00. That's roughly an 8% increase. So the yearly creep in prices continues, and within a market in which many other brands have decreased their prices through competition.
Well the Festool Jan 1 price rises are now known. For example now -@Untidy Shop You are right, as a matter of interest I was checking the prices on some of my Metabo 2015 tool purchases and comparing them to the current 2017 prices. In 2015 I paid $489 for my KGS 216 LTX cordless mitre saw (skin) today the same saw can be bought for $299. That's a massive drop in price. The same story with some of my Milwaukee purchases which have also seen prices go down.
Kapex 120 - A$1945.00
Domino 500 - A$1550.00
Domino 700 - A$2150.00
TS55R - A$950.00
HK55 with FSK420 - A$835.00
ROTEX 150 - A$965.00
More on Festool Aust. Website.
Overall increases are 'moderate to high''; for example the HK55/FSK420 deal was A$810.00. That's roughly an 8% increase. So the yearly creep in prices continues, and within a market in which many other brands have decreased their prices through competition.
Well with the Down Under price rises on Jan 1; today, Jan 3, there were some new tools released.
KS 60
RTS400
DTS400 and ETS 125 new models
ETS-EC 125/3
And this time some, such as the KS60, before NA. [big grin]
Details - http://www.festool.com.au
@Kev
Are you currently using a consolidated shipping service? I have a few more Festool purchases to make, but TTS are giving me the you know whats. Looking at options.........
Well with the Down Under price rises on Jan 1; today, Jan 3, there were some new tools released.
KS 60
RTS400
DTS400 and ETS 125 new models
ETS-EC 125/3
And this time some, such as the KS60, before NA. [big grin]
Details - http://www.festool.com.au
I'm pretty interested in the KS 60, bit ill wait for some reviews.
I'd use it purely as my saw for fixes, I've currently got the Bosch X glide 12", but it is huge to be lugging around for everything.
KS 60 appeals to me given it's likely precision and dust extraction for stuff like MDF.
It's price point isn't to bad either. Even the decent smaller drop saws from Makita etc are around $700, most good SCMS are around $1000.
Yes it's an interesting promotion. The Routers and the ETS sanders are the stand outs for this one. I have the ETS150/3 sander, would consider the 5mm but was going to cover that off with the Rotex.
I have a cheap Ryobi multi tool, which can't cut custard. Is the Festool Vecturo any better? Can anyone shed any insight?
All going well, will pick up the OF1400 this time around. Decisions decisions :-\
What i found interesting between the ks60 and ks120
Was is the weight.
Ks120 weight about 21kg and the trolley is about 10kg
Ks60 weight about 17.8 and the trolley with adapter is about 13kg
So the foot print of the new saw is only smaller if you dont put it on the stand
And they weight basically the same.
Hi All,
I saw an ad in Gumtree, and followed up a little...
Looks like Vijays Power Tools (897 Botany Rd, Rosebery NSW) is clearing out Festool. The Gumtree ad says they will not entertain queries over the phone, but I gave them a call anyway and he was happy to tell me if he had a specific item in store. He wouldn't disclose any prices over the phone but said it was better than RRP . . . . . . . . . . . .
Well we have had the price rise, now comes the promotion. We had no promotion catalogue in the last 1/4 of 2016, but the Jan - March, 2017 has been released.
The Catalogue celebrates the release of the KS60 with a promotion price on saw/stand combination. And there are considerable sander 'discounts' particularly on the ETS150/3/5s with discounts of A$139 which nearly brings them back to the price I paid over ten years ago! [eek]
The three main router models are also discounted, in this case by A$100 each., and yes @Kev with discounts over A$300 on the Vecturo range, there is room for sales speculation. Fein anyone ; or even a Blue Boch, DeWalt or AEG!
But it is great to to see some real discounting at last;
no matter what the reason. [thumbs up] [thumbs up]
http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/Store/Shops/tooltechnic/MediaGallery/files/campaigns/Festool_Jan-Mar_17_Campaign_Spreads_low.pdf
Untidy,@Trosey
Is that a yellow Australian kangaroo embryo?
The Boss has me scheduled to do the bath cabinet and countertop...@Holmz ?? looked at dhgate http://au.dhgate.com/product/home-decoration-single-handle-bathroom-sink/385708447.html?utm_source=pla&utm_medium=GMC&utm_campaign=eimin&utm_term=385708447&f=bm%7c385708447%7c019022-Faucets,ShowersAccs%7cGMC%7c228938908%7cpla%7ceimin%7cAU%7c019022017-BathroomSinkFaucets%7ct%7c%7c&gclid=CNj6quG05dECFU8FKgodBWMCyg
Any noteworthy plumbing fixture supply places in the big smoke(s)?
(We are looking for some copper fixtures, and want to find some larger or more upscale shops.)
@Holmz Have you tried Earlysettler.
The issue with that is there are already 2 distributors for veritas in Oz, carbatec and the wood works. My main job is sales, I can guarantee veritas won't be shipping dogs only to another party down here.
The issue with that is there are already 2 distributors for veritas in Oz, carbatec and the wood works. My main job is sales, I can guarantee veritas won't be shipping dogs only to another party down here.
Sounds to me that one or both of those should consider stocking the PGS.
Peter
Well the Airstream 6.2Ah batteries are available on the rest of the planet ... but here we go again with Tooltechnic supply retardedness!!!
Anyone want to place a bet on when we'll see the 6.2Ah's on the shelves locally? .. I'm going to go with November [mad]
I've got a UK trip coming up soon, might pay me to bring a couple back with me, I take it that you can charge them up with the older style charger, but how long will they take to charge fully charge, anyone hazard a guess?
Good point @Kev I'll check with the airline beforehand. I was thinking a couple of 6.2 airstream batteries for the TSC would be perfect.I've got a UK trip coming up soon, might pay me to bring a couple back with me, I take it that you can charge them up with the older style charger, but how long will they take to charge fully charge, anyone hazard a guess?
Careful on a plane - hit and miss with significant batteries through security .. but yes, the standard charger will just be slower than the airstream charger.
I'm guessing the guts is pretty much the same as the Metabo batteries (that were available here yonks ago).
Why does one get multiple customer satisfaction surveys when multiple items are purchased within one transaction? I gave my dealer 9/10 by the way. 😀😀
Does this happen elsewhere in other Festool markets? @TylerC @Phil Beckley I suspect it might because the emails have Festool Aus as CC, implying the sender is Festool HQ.
Just spent half the day sanding a Camphor Laurel bench I have laminated up. Wishing I had purchased the 5mm orbit ETS while it was on special, the 3mm is going to take forever [big grin]
Happy Easter.
New Festool Australia promotional flyer is out and I can only assume times must be tough at Festool Aus HQ.
http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/Store/Shops/tooltechnic/MediaGallery/files/campaigns/49593_Festool_Apr-Jun17_Campaign_WEB_spread.pdf
I'll save you a click though, the only things on offer are free Sys 1 Box ($130) with any new "featured" tool purchase, and a discount on a couple of the Quadrill electric drills.
I seriously don't know why they bother....
Hmmm, I've only had festool gear for a few months now but after my dealings with their service/inquiries I think I'll just stick to Bosch for future purchases. To top it all off, I work part time at a festool dealer too! Got to the point with the amount of time required to sort out an issue with one of my purchases, I ended up contacting them again with "you have until the days end to provide a satisfactory outcome or I'll just give myself a new one off the shelf and send you the credit note" :o
Don't give it up, change dealers. Try Anthony from idealtools.com.au fantastic service and backup. Can't go wrong
Don't give it up, change dealers. Try Anthony from idealtools.com.au fantastic service and backup. Can't go wrong
Don't give it up, change dealers. Try Anthony from idealtools.com.au fantastic service and backup. Can't go wrong
After having spent the past 3 months trying to get my money back from them for goods that were never delivered. Sent them many emails and left messages on their answer machine as no one ever picked up the phone. I certainly would not recommend them and will stick with JT in South Melb.
According to FB, Festool Aust are saying Batt Sanders are due down here in early 2018.
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia/posts/1940833289463621:0
According to FB, Festool Aust are saying Batt Sanders are due down here in early 2018.
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia/posts/1940833289463621:0
Amazing isn't ... faster to travel to Australia as a convict 200 years ago. We really have fallen to the bottom rung when it comes to new products and product updates. Warranty is the only reason to buy local and it's sad that you'd need to worry a lot about warranty with a premium brand tool!
Hope you all are keeping well.
@Kev the battery sanders aren't really on the radar for me. The selling point of Festool is supposed to be dust extraction via the CT range. They all require 230v. So it's a bit dumb to have a cordless sander that should be used with a corded CT.
Only a few more things to go and my needs will be largely met anyway.
Hi,
I am thinking of ordering an TSO Products GRS-16 PE, but before I order I thought I would check to see if anyone near Sydney wants to partner up and we could take advantage of the combination set that comes with both (https://tsoproducts.com/tso-products-guide-rail-squares/grs-16-and-grs-16-pe-guide-rail-square-combination-set/)?
As the posted price of the combination is $USD320, then the GRS-16 (non-PE) would drop to $USD150 posted.
Please PM me if interested.
Cheers!
Hope you all are keeping well.
@Kev the battery sanders aren't really on the radar for me. The selling point of Festool is supposed to be dust extraction via the CT range. They all require 230v. So it's a bit dumb to have a cordless sander that should be used with a corded CT.
Only a few more things to go and my needs will be largely met anyway.
Hi Graham
You may be missing the point with the cordless sanders. I must confess that I had wondered why have a cordless sander but I have completely changed my mind. Have you tried them yet?
They do give you complete freedom from the power cord and the vacuum hose. Dust collection is pretty good despite that. Imagine working overhead or certainly above shoulder height for extended periods - say when working on the house. The weight reduction by having no hose or power lead has an immediate effect and will reduce fatigue by quite a margin. I had to nip out to do a quick sanding job on a piece of furniture that I had made for someone and would have managed with just one of these but had to take a CT along as well.
You can connect them to an extractor and also have them powered from the mains which gives even greater flexibility.
There is no loss of performance due to them being a cordless tool. I tried them all recently in Germany and would recommend that everyone should try one or all three out before making a judgement.
Here is a clip, not available to the general public:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJMXLkySQAI
Peter
New Festool Aust. Promotion Catalog is out, featuring new Sword Saw and rail discounts. I thought the Sword Saw had already been released here? I am pretty sure @Kev has one!?
Nothing in there in the Cat, that 'rocked my socks'.
Pity those new battery sanders are not here yet! Next year apparently! [eek]
http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/Store/Shops/tooltechnic/MediaGallery/files/campaigns/Festool_Aug-Oct17_Campaign_brochure.pdf
Anyone know a decent dealer in Melbourne they would be able to do me a deal?
Spoke to a few I've bought from before and some ruled it out.
I own a HKC55 and it's an absolute ripper, changed the way I do a lot of things.
It's prompted me to pull the trigger the the HK75.
I'm wanting to do a deal with a different size track, as I already have the 420, my preference would be the smaller one, as I have other tracks from my TS to use on sheet goods.
I may even buy 3 x 1050 tracks in the same order.
The fact that Festool Australia's pricing these days irritates the snot out of me is no secret. Can't believe they're saying $199 is a "special" price for the old sortainers ... and I bet everyone is rushing out to buy a $95 "Y" hose connector!@Kev For me it was a no brainer, I bought my domino 500 in the UK rather than in Aus and saved just under $700 Aus by doing so. This is a crazy price difference, more than the price of an ETS 150 sander in Aus.
It's as if they've given up trying to offer a real promotion and these promotional brochures are just a "going through the motions" thing.
When you can fund a quick visit to Europe with the savings you could make on a handful of Festool items you really have to ask if the fear of no local warranty is enough to keep you buying locally.
The fact that Festool Australia's pricing these days irritates the snot out of me is no secret. Can't believe they're saying $199 is a "special" price for the old sortainers ... and I bet everyone is rushing out to buy a $95 "Y" hose connector!@Kev For me it was a no brainer, I bought my domino 500 in the UK rather than in Aus and saved just under $700 Aus by doing so. This is a crazy price difference, more than the price of an ETS 150 sander in Aus.
It's as if they've given up trying to offer a real promotion and these promotional brochures are just a "going through the motions" thing.
When you can fund a quick visit to Europe with the savings you could make on a handful of Festool items you really have to ask if the fear of no local warranty is enough to keep you buying locally.
My domino was registered automatically by the UK tool shop at my parents house in the UK, so if it does go wrong I can ship it both ways back to the UK for less than $100, only down side I see is I could be without the tool for probably longer if It does need repairing but in saying that the last tool I sent back to Festool Australia for repair ended up taking a six weeks due to their total incompetence.
In their defence they probably did not believe that they use power tools in SA with the power grid... [eek] [wink] [embarassed] [crying]
Hello All,
I can't remember which insurance company it was, but it had a green logo. There is a TV advert for business insurance where the featured business was a cabinetmaking/joinery business. For the keen of eye Festool was plugged quite heavily.
<<comment deleted>> - Peter Halle Moderator
I have work for the RO150 and am hoping it comes up on promo. Call me a cheapskate but if its $100 off then that's money in my pocket. It and the OF1400 are the two items on the need to have list.
As a hobbyist I'm not losing money while I wait.
@aloysius
Who do you deal though for this process. Would you be so kind as to share some details either here or by PM and I will look into it.
Festool Aust, via FB, is promoting its Summer Deals.
Interesting that level of discount on many items is no longer listed. Just - 'Save at $2700'. Many other items appear to have no discount. Intro promotion on new Hybrid Sanders looks to be the real promotion.
http://ttsfestoolprods3.s3.amazonaws.com/festool/media/festool%20images/download%20files/campaign_brochure.pdf
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Yes it is interesting... Just wondering if they have reduced the prices of a few products (as opposed to a sale promotion)
@Untidy Shop
I am happy to prepare and submit a submission to the ACCC in regards to retail price maintenance. If I can get a copy of the old submission that would be great. Also, if anyone has any specific examples where they believe that the service they received was not what was promised with RPM can you also send these through to me so they can be used as examples.
Regards
Graham
The Aussie distributor’s lack of customer support and blatant price gouging is why 90percent of my festool purchases have been online from overseas.
Am disappointed that Festool HQ allow this, but, business is business.
Dear Sir/Madam
The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (the ACCC) has received a notification from Tooltechnic Systems (Aust) Pty Ltd, which is proposing to engage in resale price maintenance (RPM) with regard to its Festool and Fein power tools.
The ACCC invites you to comment on the arrangement.
A copy of the RPM notification and supporting submission is attached. A full copy of the RPM notification and its attachments will be available on the ACCC’s website tomorrow: www.accc.gov.au.
If you intend to provide a submission in relation to this RPM notification, please do so by 27 February 2018.
If you wish to discuss any aspect of this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me on (03) 9290 1835 or adjudication@accc.gov.au.
Regards,
Tess Macrae
Assistant Director | Adjudication | Merger and Authorisation Review
Australian Competition & Consumer Commission
Level 17 | 2 Lonsdale Street Melbourne, VIC 3000
T: + 61 3 9290 1835
www.accc.gov.au
The ACCC acknowledges the traditional owners and custodians of Country throughout Australia and recognises their continuing connection to the land, sea and community. We pay our respects to them and their cultures; and to their Elders past, present and future.
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Part of the problem is the way the Australian government hits you on importing ...
Last Friday I officially retired as a team member at the 'Green Shed' [/size][/font][code for a major Australian Hardware Chain].
@Untidy Shop[big grin] @Grakat
. . . . . Was it an untidy green shed lol.
Just received this Email from ACCC. FESTOOL Aust. Continues to have Retail Price Maintenance in Aust. [eek] [mad]
The ACCC has decided not to take further action at this time in relation to Tooltechnic’s resale price maintenance notification for its Festool and Fein power tools lodged with the ACCC on 12 February 2018. This means that the legal protection afforded by Tooltechnic’s notification will continue and allows Tooltechnic to impose a minimum price for the retail sale of these tools.
Please refer to the ACCC’s Statement of Reasons and letter for further information.
I received the same e mail from the toothless dog they call the ACCC. Clearly Tooltechnic Systems have told a good story and managed to get RPM for another 3 years.
I noticed the bias in the ACCC documentation, there was not very much put forward in regards to our submissions as to why they shouldn't have retail price maintenance. In particular the shortcomings we raised were not addressed.
Might have a look at the next steps. Last time I tried the Commonwealth Ombudsman but that went nowhere.