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Offline Richard83

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One for the Aussies...
« on: May 02, 2014, 10:20 PM »
10% off EVERYTHING in May at Carba-Tec

What's that America? 10% off only dominos?!

Aussies do it better  :P

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2014, 03:14 AM »
10% off EVERYTHING in May at Carba-Tec

What's that America? 10% off only dominos?!

Aussies do it better  :P

Oh dear [eek] ... and they sell Festool

I'm going to be curious how that goes down with Tooltechnic and the "fixed price" Festool credo [smile]


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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2014, 05:03 AM »
Say bye, bye to you credit card cool off ;-P

I see a TSC55 in your near future, lol.
The sky's the limit in my workshop, literally. [big grin]

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2014, 05:25 AM »
Say bye, bye to you credit card cool off ;-P

I see a TSC55 in your near future, lol.

May is looking frightening [scared] [eek]

I was seriously considering swapping my A4 for an SQ5 before our June 30 financial year end ... just had the A4 detailed and ordered new wheels and tyres instead!

There's some amazing Metabo specials on at the moment, this Carbatec promo has me looking as at bucket load of Leigh gear and apart from a new road bike, I was considering an e-bike [embarassed]

April turned out to be a $10K toy month, May is looking like a cash-flow disaster month [crying] (also need a new pool heater).

Offline Richard83

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2014, 07:07 AM »
Don't worry fellas... Tax return will be in soon to pay off that credit card! [big grin]

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2014, 07:38 AM »
 
Don't worry fellas... Tax return will be in soon to pay off that credit card! [big grin]


Mmmmmmmmmmmmm!!   [eek] [eek] [eek] [eek] [eek] 2
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2014, 10:05 AM »
I blew it all in April (Incra LS Supersystem, MFT3-VL, Precision plate, Precision parallel guides, a Performer JC70 trike with 250W electrics, Wifes long weekend to Switzerland...) Annual bonus came and went  [embarassed]
Thank goodness they don't seem to have any specials here at the moment  [unsure]
The sky's the limit in my workshop, literally. [big grin]

Offline mike68au

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2014, 11:18 AM »
I had to force myself to stay away today..... i was less than 100m from Carba-tec.  Need to put new wheels and tyres on the Van first.

Offline Psych101

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Re: Re: Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2014, 07:28 PM »
10% off EVERYTHING in May at Carba-Tec

What's that America? 10% off only dominos?!

Aussies do it better  :P

Not really a discount given their already premium prices on festool more than 10% more than other options in Australia. Plus they put their prices up significantly on everything else recently too.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Re: Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2014, 03:13 AM »
10% off EVERYTHING in May at Carba-Tec

What's that America? 10% off only dominos?!

Aussies do it better  :P

Not really a discount given their already premium prices on festool more than 10% more than other options in Australia. Plus they put their prices up significantly on everything else recently too.

Exactly,!   [eek]
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Offline bryan1982

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2014, 06:40 AM »
I dont buy off them because of there customer service and lack of comunication when items are out of stock and on back order

No more orders from me

Cheers

Bryan

Offline Richard83

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2014, 10:37 PM »
Ha!

Well turns out you guys were right... What a disgrace Carba-tec (Perth) is!!

So I go there this morning to pick up the items I wanted and notice on their whiteboard they have a little * under the "Massive 10% off EVERYTHING".... *Excludes power tools!!!

Hmmm I thought...

Went in and the first thing on my list was the domino assortment systainer. I didn't even consider it a problem because it's obviously not a power tool... So wrong! "Oh no, that's not included in the sale cause it's a power tool accessory"... Exactly I say, it's not a power tool! "No, because it's an accessory of a power tool it's not included"

Incredulous I moved on... "OK, so the next thing I want is a CT-17 extractor, they must be included because they're on sale on your website". Reply was "no, that's a power tool as well" so I show him his own website where it clearly shows the 10% off.
http://www.carbatec.com.au/festool-ct-36-dust-extractor_c20208
"Oh ok, I'll check with the boss" he says

Comes back and says "I've checked with the boss and he says that the sale is only in Brisbane"!!!

Stupidly I continued arguing! Reminded him that the website is Australia-wide, not Brisbane specific blah blah... In the end I just shook my head and walked out...

In conclusion, Carba-Tec Perth = frauds!

That's my third dealing with three different local Fedtool dealers... 2 were horrendous, one was just average.
Why would I bother paying a premium for 'service' which is just bad?!
Might aswell buy from UK... Can't say I didn't try!

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2014, 10:55 PM »
Ha!

Well turns out you guys were right... What a disgrace Carba-tec (Perth) is!!

So I go there this morning to pick up the items I wanted and notice on their whiteboard they have a little * under the "Massive 10% off EVERYTHING".... *Excludes power tools!!!

Hmmm I thought...

Went in and the first thing on my list was the domino assortment systainer. I didn't even consider it a problem because it's obviously not a power tool... So wrong! "Oh no, that's not included in the sale cause it's a power tool accessory"... Exactly I say, it's not a power tool! "No, because it's an accessory of a power tool it's not included"

Incredulous I moved on... "OK, so the next thing I want is a CT-17 extractor, they must be included because they're on sale on your website". Reply was "no, that's a power tool as well" so I show him his own website where it clearly shows the 10% off.
http://www.carbatec.com.au/festool-ct-36-dust-extractor_c20208
"Oh ok, I'll check with the boss" he says

Comes back and says "I've checked with the boss and he says that the sale is only in Brisbane"!!!

Stupidly I continued arguing! Reminded him that the website is Australia-wide, not Brisbane specific blah blah... In the end I just shook my head and walked out...

In conclusion, Carba-Tec Perth = frauds!

That's my third dealing with three different local Fedtool dealers... 2 were horrendous, one was just average.
Why would I bother paying a premium for 'service' which is just bad?!
Might aswell buy from UK... Can't say I didn't try!

Sounds like a Monty Python skit [smile]

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2014, 11:00 PM »
Just looked at the Carba tec website, nothing indicates any exclusions on locations or product types / ranges.

Did you try on the 1800 658 111 ordering number? (common to the east coast)

 

Offline Mike B

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2014, 12:01 AM »
Not surprised Carbatec Perth are doing this. They almost always fall back on the "We are just a franchise store - not the same as the Eastern States stores" excuse. I'm sure it all makes sense to them with cost of shipping etc, but it gets tired really quick. It saddens me that that is the best (last) store Perth has for all things woodwork...

I'm more curious as to why Festool Australia hasn't pushed out a new specials catalogue, they are usually pretty reliable every three months.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2014, 12:45 AM »
Not surprised Carbatec Perth are doing this. They almost always fall back on the "We are just a franchise store - not the same as the Eastern States stores" excuse. I'm sure it all makes sense to them with cost of shipping etc, but it gets tired really quick. It saddens me that that is the best (last) store Perth has for all things woodwork...

I'm more curious as to why Festool Australia hasn't pushed out a new specials catalogue, they are usually pretty reliable every three months.

Yes, I declined a bag with some accessory purchases last week, at my friendly dealer, because there were  no 'new' Festool brochures enclosed. The sales rep was also puzzled re a delay of 'specials'.

Re Carbatec, I have not heard from them for three months re an inquiry about ParfDogs and when I last checked I could not find them on their website. Do not need them yet fortunately.  Will probably end up internet ordering direct from LV.

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Offline mike68au

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2014, 01:29 AM »
Ha!

Well turns out you guys were right... What a disgrace Carba-tec (Perth) is!!

So I go there this morning to pick up the items I wanted and notice on their whiteboard they have a little * under the "Massive 10% off EVERYTHING".... *Excludes power tools!!!

Hmmm I thought...

Went in and the first thing on my list was the domino assortment systainer. I didn't even consider it a problem because it's obviously not a power tool... So wrong! "Oh no, that's not included in the sale cause it's a power tool accessory"... Exactly I say, it's not a power tool! "No, because it's an accessory of a power tool it's not included"

Incredulous I moved on... "OK, so the next thing I want is a CT-17 extractor, they must be included because they're on sale on your website". Reply was "no, that's a power tool as well" so I show him his own website where it clearly shows the 10% off.
http://www.carbatec.com.au/festool-ct-36-dust-extractor_c20208
"Oh ok, I'll check with the boss" he says

Comes back and says "I've checked with the boss and he says that the sale is only in Brisbane"!!!

Stupidly I continued arguing! Reminded him that the website is Australia-wide, not Brisbane specific blah blah... In the end I just shook my head and walked out...

In conclusion, Carba-Tec Perth = frauds!

That's my third dealing with three different local Fedtool dealers... 2 were horrendous, one was just average.
Why would I bother paying a premium for 'service' which is just bad?!
Might aswell buy from UK... Can't say I didn't try!

What you describe there Richard is essentially the same level of service i have received in the past from them, and all so the real reason i choose not to visit them when i was so close last week. 
I went i there once to get a Sys-lite since they had it in stock, but it was listed at $299. I said to the guy the Festool Catalogue shows it at $219, he then just proceeds to  and complain how Festool tells them nothing.  Sorry mate but thats your duty to know what specials are on and the prices.... in the end he gave it to me for the $219 though, so i was happy.

The thing that got mime thinking about the Domino Assortment he's stating that it is an " Accessory of a power tool" well then that would exclude nearly everything Festool does since most items are accessories to tools. 

Sandpaper is a accessory to a Sander would that be excluded? 
Dominos would be no different to sandpaper they are a consumable not an accessory!

The boys at Beyond Tools have always been fantastic.... so hopefully they can give you the service your deserve.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2014, 01:47 AM »
I've been led to believe that Festool Australia probably won't do a Q2 promo, just a late May/June EOFYS (end of financial year sale) to clear older stocks in readiness for new products and newly packaged products (think Protools and cordless tools pre 4.2Ah batteries clearout). So don't expect a flyer yet.

Back on CarbaTec - thing I hate about them is the fact that their OS suppliers are loyal (brands like Leigh), yet you'd get better pricing and service if you ordered direct (use shipito.com if you do consider this, but keep the lots under $1K)

BTW, if you want big Asian made machinery for any reason, consider Hare and Forbes - deffo not CarbaTec.

Offline Mike B

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2014, 03:27 AM »
I've been led to believe that Festool Australia probably won't do a Q2 promo, just a late May/June EOFYS (end of financial year sale) to clear older stocks in readiness for new products and newly packaged products (think Protools and cordless tools pre 4.2Ah batteries clearout). So don't expect a flyer yet.

4.2Ah batteries? Finally one can hope...
 
Back on CarbaTec - thing I hate about them is the fact that their OS suppliers are loyal (brands like Leigh), yet you'd get better pricing and service if you ordered direct (use shipito.com if you do consider this, but keep the lots under $1K)

So true unfortunately. I'm all for supporting local business but when the mark-ups are so high and the service so poor I can't bring myself to support them any more. Early on I would let Carbatec order LV stuff that was out of stock and the delays were atrocious and communication worse. 2-3 months easily.

These day I just order from LV direct and I'm still 10-20% under with shipping if I do a larger order.

Offline Litch

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2014, 04:00 AM »


Re Carbatec, I have not heard from them for three months re an inquiry about ParfDogs and when I last checked I could not find them on their website. Do not need them yet fortunately.  Will probably end up internet ordering direct from LV.


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I havent been in Carbatec for a couple months. I have not been that impressed when I have. However, on the subject of parf dogs. I did pick up some up from them last time I was in. It took them about a week to arrive and the cost was about $49 for both the large and small ones

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2014, 04:09 AM »


I wonder if LeeValley are reading this.

Reading this thread down the page, you will find most of the regular AUS FOG members collectively unmpressed with your Australian distributor for Veritas and LV tools. Interesting!!
« Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 04:17 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Offline Larso

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2014, 04:59 AM »
Yep unfortunately Carba tec have got lazy because of the monopoly they have with some brands,I used to purchase from them all the time but the out of stock delays, poor response to enquires and generally lack of giving a SH*T has turned me off.

I am lucky in that my job(builder) is also my hobby and i am not generally a price sensitive purchaser, I buy just about everything (tool,jig etc)that takes my fancy so they dont have to work very hard to get my business but even common courtesy is lacking from these guys.

Online from O/S is usually cheaper more reliable and incredibly most often quicker.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2014, 05:09 AM »
Yep unfortunately Carba tec have got lazy because of the monopoly they have with some brands,I used to purchase from them all the time but the out of stock delays, poor response to enquires and generally lack of giving a SH*T has turned me off.

I am lucky in that my job(builder) is also my hobby and i am not generally a price sensitive purchaser, I buy just about everything (tool,jig etc)that takes my fancy so they dont have to work very hard to get my business but even common courtesy is lacking from these guys.

Online from O/S is usually cheaper more reliable and incredibly most often quicker.[/b]

What a fabulous world we'd live in if we could either standardise on mains power, or produce tools that didn't care.

On that, I'm amazed that some company hasn't produced a range of compact power converter modules that would allow manufacturers to "internationalise" their tools easily. I'm visualising high, medium and low current modules that accept variable voltage and frequency in and output a voltage specific to the manufacturers standard. It's gotta be doable if the volume market can be created ...

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2014, 07:54 AM »
Yep unfortunately Carba tec have got lazy because of the monopoly they have with some brands,I used to purchase from them all the time but the out of stock delays, poor response to enquires and generally lack of giving a SH*T has turned me off.

I am lucky in that my job(builder) is also my hobby and i am not generally a price sensitive purchaser, I buy just about everything (tool,jig etc)that takes my fancy so they dont have to work very hard to get my business but even common courtesy is lacking from these guys.

Online from O/S is usually cheaper more reliable and incredibly most often quicker.[/b]

What a fabulous world we'd live in if we could either standardise on mains power, or produce tools that didn't care.

On that, I'm amazed that some company hasn't produced a range of compact power converter modules that would allow manufacturers to "internationalise" their tools easily. I'm visualising high, medium and low current modules that accept variable voltage and frequency in and output a voltage specific to the manufacturers standard. It's gotta be doable if the volume market can be created ...



If you mean smart modules within the tool Kev, that is a great idea. And with Festool you would only have to have the correct plug it lead for your country.

« Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 08:00 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2014, 09:43 AM »
Yep unfortunately Carba tec have got lazy because of the monopoly they have with some brands,I used to purchase from them all the time but the out of stock delays, poor response to enquires and generally lack of giving a SH*T has turned me off.

I am lucky in that my job(builder) is also my hobby and i am not generally a price sensitive purchaser, I buy just about everything (tool,jig etc)that takes my fancy so they dont have to work very hard to get my business but even common courtesy is lacking from these guys.

Online from O/S is usually cheaper more reliable and incredibly most often quicker.[/b]

What a fabulous world we'd live in if we could either standardise on mains power, or produce tools that didn't care.

On that, I'm amazed that some company hasn't produced a range of compact power converter modules that would allow manufacturers to "internationalise" their tools easily. I'm visualising high, medium and low current modules that accept variable voltage and frequency in and output a voltage specific to the manufacturers standard. It's gotta be doable if the volume market can be created ...



If you mean smart modules within the tool Kev, that is a great idea. And with Festool you would only have to have the correct plug it lead for your country.



Exactly!

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2014, 10:07 AM »
Yep unfortunately Carba tec have got lazy because of the monopoly they have with some brands,I used to purchase from them all the time but the out of stock delays, poor response to enquires and generally lack of giving a SH*T has turned me off.

I am lucky in that my job(builder) is also my hobby and i am not generally a price sensitive purchaser, I buy just about everything (tool,jig etc)that takes my fancy so they dont have to work very hard to get my business but even common courtesy is lacking from these guys.

Online from O/S is usually cheaper more reliable and incredibly most often quicker.[/b]

What a fabulous world we'd live in if we could either standardise on mains power, or produce tools that didn't care.

On that, I'm amazed that some company hasn't produced a range of compact power converter modules that would allow manufacturers to "internationalise" their tools easily. I'm visualising high, medium and low current modules that accept variable voltage and frequency in and output a voltage specific to the manufacturers standard. It's gotta be doable if the volume market can be created ...



If you mean smart modules within the tool Kev, that is a great idea. And with Festool you would only have to have the correct plug it lead for your country.



Exactly!



And maybe, just maybe, our Nth American friends would suffer less from NAINA!  [eek] [eek]

 [popcorn] [popcorn]
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Offline Reiska

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2014, 10:12 AM »
Well, every computer has a universal power supply so I'm sure building universal motors should be doable but if you try to stick the transformer coils in a tool with high wattage you are introducing a lot of extra heat from the transformation and weight of the coils.
The sky's the limit in my workshop, literally. [big grin]

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2014, 08:12 AM »
Well, every computer has a universal power supply so I'm sure building universal motors should be doable but if you try to stick the transformer coils in a tool with high wattage you are introducing a lot of extra heat from the transformation and weight of the coils.


Yes, but what if Festool developed an 'intelligent motor' that could run on multiple power supplies due to chip control. This motor could consequently also deal with long extension cords and power fluctuations, particularly in remote areas or from portable generators.

Reiska, my ignorance beyond the basic physics of electrical conductivity gives me the advantage of challenging the preconceptions of those who really know.  [smile]

I still think Kev is on to something here.

Best wishes.

« Last Edit: May 06, 2014, 08:16 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2014, 06:24 PM »


Assuming that this thread can continue its multiple topics.

Rail Saw in Festool livery (not PROTOOL) is now on Festool AUST website.

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/767995/SubProducts/767995

No sign yet of new expected drills.

« Last Edit: June 24, 2014, 06:43 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Offline mike68au

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2014, 07:37 PM »
I did find the PDC/18 on the site, even though its not listed with the other drills, it's on the main page you just have to scroll sideways:

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768928/SubProducts/768928

After some conversations at a tool show last week i was told the BHC18 still looks on track for mid August and were also getting the TSC55....  Possibly even as a Skin

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2014, 07:47 PM »
I did find the PDC/18 on the site, even though its not listed with the other drills, it's on the main page you just have to scroll sideways:

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768928/SubProducts/768928

After some conversations at a tool show last week i was told the BHC18 still looks on track for mid August and were also getting the TSC55....  Possibly even as a Skin

Hi Mike,

Yes the PDC18 has been there a few weeks now. By expected drills I meant the BHC and Festool livery PROTOOL PDP 20 and DRP18, which as we know are in the pipeline for August. A Salesperson recently told me of lost TSC55 sales to UK via internet.    [blink]



« Last Edit: June 24, 2014, 07:49 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2014, 03:38 AM »
I suppose you all got the BHC and TSC coming memo today [wink]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2014, 05:08 AM »
But there was no talk of the venturo, wonder when that is coming

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2014, 05:39 AM »
But there was no talk of the venturo, wonder when that is coming

Not August - I'm guessing back end of the year.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2014, 08:23 AM »


Yes read the email only this evening [Friday AEST]. Confirms August.

Also noted some improvements to AUST website. See http://www.festool.com.au/products

 [smile]
« Last Edit: June 27, 2014, 09:13 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Conturo
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2014, 08:18 AM »


Email arrived late this afternoon AEST from Festool Aust. publicising a wood Show in Brisbane, Aug 6-9 and the fact they will be demonstrating the Conturo.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2014, 08:50 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2014, 06:32 AM »
I posted in the other thread about this, but in case anyone is interested, the Keter Work Tables are on discount from $98 down to $78 at Masters.

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Re: One for the Aussies...Festool Product Launch
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2014, 07:38 PM »


Festool AUST email just arrived with invitation to the Product Launch and demonstration of the Conturo, BHC, and TSC 55 at the ToolHouse in Dandenong Sth. (Melbourne) on Saturday July 19th, 9-12. Demonstration will be by Thomas Griess from Festool Germany.


Unfortunately a +2hr drive for me, and I will be working anyway.



And just when you purchased all that self adhesive edge banding Kev!  [smile]

« Last Edit: July 08, 2014, 07:43 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2014, 08:18 PM »
Just recieved an invite to the Canberra product launch of Conturo, BHC, and TSC 55 at Combined electrical Tuesday 29th July,seems to be invite only but any registered owners should recieve one.

I will definately purchase the TSC 55 on the day and posibbly the BHC hammer drill,I could stretch to a cordless jigsaw as well given the 4.2 ah 18v batteries fit all three.

I really do like my Makita LXT tools (cant find any i dont have inc new LXT by 2 range)but will transition to Festool for some items as they become avaiable now there is a range developing for a standard battery platform.

Would really like the edgebander but dont do enough to justify the cost,pity this launch wasnt in June for an  EOFY sale given the tax advantages etc.

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Re: One for the Aussies...Festool Product Launch
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2014, 07:34 AM »


Festool AUST email just arrived with invitation to the Product Launch and demonstration of the Conturo, BHC, and TSC 55 at the ToolHouse in Dandenong Sth. (Melbourne) on Saturday July 19th, 9-12. Demonstration will be by Thomas Griess from Festool Germany.


Unfortunately a +2hr drive for me, and I will be working anyway.



And just when you purchased all that self adhesive edge banding Kev!  [smile]

I still haven't organised pickup / delivery ... I'm tempted to just pay for it and give to any Melbournite that wants to pick it up. Any takers??



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Just noticed this on Festool Aust site, listed as new product but in reality the first rebadged Protool drill to appear.

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768932/SubProducts/768932


Edit.

And now just noticed this one -
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768939/SubProducts/768938

Of the corded Protool drills only the DRP18 left for badge conversion down here.

« Last Edit: July 22, 2014, 04:01 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2014, 04:35 AM »
I've just put my TSC and BHC "pre order" in ... sadly going to miss my Sydney demo of the Conturo as I'll be in a business workshop in Melbourne for a few days [sad]

I need a new tool made specially for me ... an edge banding glue stripping machine [eek]

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Re: One for the Aussies...Just Tools Product Launch
« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2014, 12:15 AM »
Quote from EMail from Festool, Aust. this morning.

'Together with Just Tools we would like to extend an invitation to you to come along to the Festool NEW Product Launch.

From 1.00pm - 5.00pm Friday 15th August and 8.30am - 1pm Saturday 16th August there will be live NEW Festool product demonstration sessions.

Be one of the first to see the NEW TSC 55 Cordless Plunge Cut Saw, the BHC 18 Hammer Drill and the CONTURO Edge Bander Machine. Register your attendance by the 12th August . . . '
« Last Edit: July 30, 2014, 12:20 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2014, 12:53 AM »
Went to the Canberra demo last night and ordered my TSC,apparently will be here next week.

$1099 with two baterries and charger in Systainer.Promo for August gets third 18v 4.2 ah battery for free.

The angle setting is improved from the corded model and the blade change is slightly different.

Drill only available as a skin but promo gets you a free battery i think around $450 from memory.

Big news was the Festool committment to cordless with a roll out of two to three new products each year going forward.Some are apparently not far away from release.

Battery and charger prices have been reduced to encourage people to migrate to the platform as other items become available.

I had another Makita LXT battery die last week so i will progressively swap to all green as it is available.

Edge bander looks the goods but the with all the bells and whistles its 5k +,doubt i can justify it but its now on my list so if i win a few good jobs who knows.
Stationary it fits into a modified MFT table but although functional this looks like a bit of a rush to have something available IMO.

Combined Electrical (Kim and Belinda)provided coffee, cakes and soft drinks etc and allowed their shop to be taken over for the demo. The two Festool Reps (Don and the trainer from Melbourne whose name escapes me)were helpful and well versed on the products so a good way to spend the evening.

Not sure if they read the FOG but a big thanks to all.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2014, 10:42 AM »
I "put the order in" for my TSC and BHC just over a week ago ... hardly necessary as my dealer responded with "I've already ordered yours" [embarassed]

I agree on the lack of sophistication of the Conturo MFT adaption - I'd like to see something better considering the machine's $5K local price of the base unit and accessories, which I think is about $1K over the reasonable mark. Some of the less sophisticated edge banders on the market actually have quite interesting integrated stations that cost less that an MFT/3 + Conturo extras ($1,215 + $220 + $495 = $1,930).

The Conturo glue pucks are also pricey at $189 a box (about $4 each).

Then there's the MFK / OFK consideration ... and what would it all be without a nice VAC-SYS to top it off!

On the flip side though, I can imagine a complete Conturo setup in the back of a modest van being a snazzy little specialist business [wink] [smile] ... maybe it's my calling to get out of corporate IT !!

The Bleeding Edge ... even got the name!

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Re: One for the Aussies...BHC18
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2014, 06:41 PM »
Looking at -

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectID=156376

it confirms that the BHC18 is only being released as skin or as Festool call it, a Flexi. This to me is short sited. Obviously Festool Aust. do not see this as an 'entry drill', but I am sure that many in medium construction might!

For prices and details of new Australian releases for August see -

http://www.festool.com.au

Edit. I retract my criticism slightly as I see they are selling chargers for only $60A, however that still leaves 2 batts to purchase separately.
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2014, 12:57 AM »
If you buy it this month apparently you will get one free battery even if purchased as a skin.

So buy the TSC as well which comes with a third free battery this month as well,so two tools and 4 batteries but one charger.

The bigger problem is no systainer i reckon.

My TSC came in on Friday and used it over the w/end and it is perfect.The systainer set up is excellent with a spot for everything.

I may just be as predictable as Kev as mine was already on its way before i "placed" my order at the demo.

My personal total of Festool tracks saws is now 4!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2014, 03:05 AM »
If you buy it this month apparently you will get one free battery even if purchased

The bigger problem is no systainer i reckon.



Hi,
If you are referring to the BHC18, according to the Festool website it comes with a Sys 2, which makes the lack of charger and batts. even more of a puzzle. Most other companies such as Makita provide skins in a cardboard box.


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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2014, 04:08 AM »
Friday I should be picking up my TSC and BHC + 2 batteries. I'll grab and extra charger.

Story is the 5Ah batteries are coming, otherwise I'd grab a couple more 4.2Ah's.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2014, 04:12 AM »
Friday I should be picking up my TSC and BHC + 2 batteries. I'll grab and extra charger.

Story is the 5Ah batteries are coming, otherwise I'd grab a couple more 4.2Ah's.



So that might explain the lack of full kit?!

Not that I will be buying one soon, but -

 [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2014, 04:36 AM »
My understanding of the Flexi Option is such that you only buy the Parts you need. 

For me i don't need another charger so I want BHC18 + 2 Batteries and thats all i have to pay for with Systainer included  ( + Bonus Battery from Promotion )  So it's a build your own kit system.

I may even for now just buy one Battery since one comes for free. 

If you were to buy a kit then it would likely be sold at the total price of all separates and you may have to pay for something yo don't need.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2014, 07:54 AM »

Thanks Mike, now I get it, Batt systems will become modular.
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2014, 09:43 AM »
My understanding of the Flexi Option is such that you only buy the Parts you need. 

For me i don't need another charger so I want BHC18 + 2 Batteries and thats all i have to pay for with Systainer included  ( + Bonus Battery from Promotion )  So it's a build your own kit system.

I may even for now just buy one Battery since one comes for free. 

If you were to buy a kit then it would likely be sold at the total price of all separates and you may have to pay for something yo don't need.

I believe you're spot on. I think it's also a great way of stopping some of the less honest resellers selling a kit for $100 less minus a battery, then selling the battery for $200 (thinking of a reasonably large multi brand mob, XXXXXX Tools !)

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2014, 10:10 AM »
If my interpretation is correct when referring to XXXXXX Tools Then they are selling the BHC18 for $519 as skin only, which is as we now know the Festool RRP of $469

They seem to jack up the Festool prices indeed.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2014, 10:26 AM »
If my interpretation is correct when referring to XXXXXX Tools Then they are selling the BHC18 for $519 as skin only, which is as we now know the Festool RRP of $469

They seem to jack up the Festool prices indeed.

YEP!!!

But it's down from $788 [wink] ... and only $220 for a $60 RRP charger.

You've gotta love the TSC pricing too "43% off"

They're a bunch of stupid clowns!

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2014, 04:32 PM »


Just looked at the specifications of the BHC18 at my favourite dealers website and surprised at only one speed. I would have expected at least 2.

See -
http://justtools.com.au/festool-18v-cordless-hammer-drill-systainer-564599-skin-only-bhc18-flexi

And

http://justtools.com.au/festool-shop
« Last Edit: August 05, 2014, 04:46 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2014, 05:41 PM »
If my interpretation is correct when referring to XXXXXX Tools Then they are selling the BHC18 for $519 as skin only, which is as we now know the Festool RRP of $469

They seem to jack up the Festool prices indeed.

YEP!!!

But it's down from $788 [wink] ... and only $220 for a $60 RRP charger.

You've gotta love the TSC pricing too "43% off"

They're a bunch of stupid clowns!

Gee they know how to charge, even the Kapex 120 is $200 above the Festool website RRP/price.  [eek]
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2014, 03:13 AM »
OK ... In my boot is a TSC 55, a BHC 18, 4 x 18V 4.2Ah batteries, 2 x chargers, an FS2/800 (with bonus clamps and Festool t-shirt), the drill dust "sucker upper thing" and an SDS chuck adaptor.

Can't wait for more 18V FLEXI tools [smile] ... there must be a recipro in the works!!!!


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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2014, 07:38 AM »
I'm going to join you Kev.... picked up the BHC18 and 2 Batteries today ( free one and bought one ).  Looking forward to putting it to work tomorrow.

Kev did you get the bumpers for the Batteries?  or just belt clip versions?

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2014, 08:13 AM »
Couldnt help myself today once i realised the flexi tools come in a systainer and now i have a 420 carvex and free battery.Should have grabbed another battery and charger so will go back on the w/end to complete the mission.

Hope Kev is right about a recipro coming sometime and i would love a cordless planer!

Will try hard to find something to cut with the carvex on the job tomorrow.

BTW does anyone know of a reliable online retailer of the Collins coping foot for the carvex who ships to Aus?

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2014, 09:00 AM »
I have nothing cordless Festool at the moment, but was thinking of getting a jigsaw as my next purchase.

Hmm... have I got this right? Build it yourself is the most value?

Option 1 - Build it myself ($474 + blades)
At the moment the cordless barrel grip carvex flexi is $429 (in SYS 2) with a free 4.2Ah battery. Then I need to add a charger for $45, bringing the total to $474. (And need to add some blades).

Option 2 - Hybrid Set (total $642)
$597 (Basic Set in SYS3 with 2.6Ah) and need to add the charger for $45 bringing the total to $642

Option 3 - the official starter set ($699)
If I got it as a set, it would be $699 (official set in SYS3 with a 3.2Ah and charger)


And it is cheaper than a plug in Trion at $515

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2014, 09:29 AM »
I'm going to join you Kev.... picked up the BHC18 and 2 Batteries today ( free one and bought one ).  Looking forward to putting it to work tomorrow.

Kev did you get the bumpers for the Batteries?  or just belt clip versions?

Bumpers... though I haven't checked them all.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #62 on: August 06, 2014, 09:32 AM »
Couldnt help myself today once i realised the flexi tools come in a systainer and now i have a 420 carvex and free battery.Should have grabbed another battery and charger so will go back on the w/end to complete the mission.

Hope Kev is right about a recipro coming sometime and i would love a cordless planer!

Will try hard to find something to cut with the carvex on the job tomorrow.

BTW does anyone know of a reliable online retailer of the Collins coping foot for the carvex who ships to Aus?

Post in the general section .. if not I'm certain a US Fogger will come to your aid.

Keep us informed - I'd probably grab one too.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2014, 09:37 AM »
I have nothing cordless Festool at the moment, but was thinking of getting a jigsaw as my next purchase.

Hmm... have I got this right? Build it yourself is the most value?

Option 1 - Build it myself ($474 + blades)
At the moment the cordless barrel grip carvex flexi is $429 (in SYS 2) with a free 4.2Ah battery. Then I need to add a charger for $45, bringing the total to $474. (And need to add some blades).

Option 2 - Hybrid Set (total $642)
$597 (Basic Set in SYS3 with 2.6Ah) and need to add the charger for $45 bringing the total to $642

Option 3 - the official starter set ($699)
If I got it as a set, it would be $699 (official set in SYS3 with a 3.2Ah and charger)


And it is cheaper than a plug in Trion at $515

Skin in Systainer with a free 18V 4.2Ah battery and buy the charger is the ONLY way to go!!


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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #64 on: August 06, 2014, 10:08 AM »


'The Boss is back!'

With all the hoopla regarding Flexi Batt Tools, this one snuck under the radar!


http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768939/SubProducts/768939


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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2014, 10:35 AM »
Yeh .... not too certain what to do about my orange tools [scratch chin] [huh]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2014, 11:43 AM »
I'm going to join you Kev.... picked up the BHC18 and 2 Batteries today ( free one and bought one ).  Looking forward to putting it to work tomorrow.

Kev did you get the bumpers for the Batteries?  or just belt clip versions?

Bumpers... though I haven't checked them all.

Well now I'm annoyed..... will get onto it and find out why i could only get belt clips.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2014, 02:25 AM »


'The Boss is back!'

With all the hoopla regarding Flexi Batt Tools, this one snuck under the radar!


http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768939/SubProducts/768939

It's been for sale through Festool AUST for over a week, but so far through my research, no dealer with internet presence has it advertised.
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2014, 04:33 AM »


'The Boss is back!'

With all the hoopla regarding Flexi Batt Tools, this one snuck under the radar!


http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/768939/SubProducts/768939

It's been for sale through Festool AUST for over a week, but so far through my research, no dealer with internet presence has it advertised.

Amazingly not even on Idealtools [scared]

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Re: One for the Aussies... Festool Competition TSC55
« Reply #69 on: September 01, 2014, 10:07 AM »

Festool Aust have a survey competition with a TSC55 as the prize.

'The winner will receive a TSC 55 Plus (561682) with 2 x 18V 4.1ah Lithium Ion Batteries and a Charger in a Systainer valued at $1,099 RRP!'

Check your email if it is registered with Festool Aust. As yet cannot find link on their web page.


Also look for details of possibility for end user sessions. See Peter's FOG post for details.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221
« Last Edit: September 01, 2014, 10:17 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies... Festool Competition TSC55
« Reply #70 on: September 01, 2014, 10:23 AM »

Festool Aust have a survey competition with a TSC55 as the prize.

'The winner will receive a TSC 55 Plus (561682) with 2 x 18V 4.1ah Lithium Ion Batteries and a Charger in a Systainer valued at $1,099 RRP!'

Check your email if it is registered with Festool Aust. As yet cannot find link on their web page.


Also look for details of possibility for end user sessions. See Peter's FOG post for details.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221

Done and done [wink] [big grin]

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Re: One for the Aussies... Festool Competition TSC55
« Reply #71 on: September 01, 2014, 07:00 PM »

Festool Aust have a survey competition with a TSC55 as the prize.

'The winner will receive a TSC 55 Plus (561682) with 2 x 18V 4.1ah Lithium Ion Batteries and a Charger in a Systainer valued at $1,099 RRP!'

Check your email if it is registered with Festool Aust. As yet cannot find link on their web page.


Also look for details of possibility for end user sessions. See Peter's FOG post for details.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221


Link for TSC competition is -

https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia

Or
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia/app_834101733300988

Also look out for Apprentices competition for a BHC.

http://www.festool.com.au/apprentice/signup
« Last Edit: September 01, 2014, 07:05 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Just a reminder to the Festool owning Australian Tradies and DIYs as you knock off or think about it, that it is September 23rd tomorrow.

That leaves only 7 more days to get an entry in if you have'nt already done so.  [smile]


Festool Aust have a survey competition with a TSC55 as the prize.

'The winner will receive a TSC 55 Plus (561682) with 2 x 18V 4.1ah Lithium Ion Batteries and a Charger in a Systainer valued at $1,099 RRP!'

Check your email if it is registered with Festool Aust. As yet cannot find link on their web page.


Also look for details of possibility for end user sessions. See Peter's FOG post for details.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221


Link for TSC competition is -

https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia

Or
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia/app_834101733300988

Also look out for Apprentices competition for a BHC.

http://www.festool.com.au/apprentice/signup
« Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 03:24 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #73 on: September 22, 2014, 07:49 AM »
Let's hope this time they don't cancel the competition again.  [mad]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #74 on: September 22, 2014, 09:43 PM »
Let's hope this time they don't cancel the competition again.  [mad]

Yes, after the cancelled Rail Comp, would they do that again!?

How many shirts can you wear!?
Still if they gave out Fibre Tops to every entrant.  [big grin]
« Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 09:48 PM by Untidy Shop »
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You have 10 mins left to enter.

Good luck everyone who entered. [smile]





Just a reminder to the Festool owning Australian Tradies and DIYs as you knock off or think about it, that it is September 23rd tomorrow.

That leaves only 7 more days to get an entry in if you have'nt already done so.  [smile]


Festool Aust have a survey competition with a TSC55 as the prize.

'The winner will receive a TSC 55 Plus (561682) with 2 x 18V 4.1ah Lithium Ion Batteries and a Charger in a Systainer valued at $1,099 RRP!'

Check your email if it is registered with Festool Aust. As yet cannot find link on their web page.


Also look for details of possibility for end user sessions. See Peter's FOG post for details.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/festool-user-training-in-australia/msg337221/?topicseen#msg337221


Link for TSC competition is -

https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia

Or
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia/app_834101733300988

Also look out for Apprentices competition for a BHC.

http://www.festool.com.au/apprentice/signup
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Re: One for the Aussies...competition winner, anyone?
« Reply #76 on: October 06, 2014, 02:36 AM »


The Competition was judged last Friday, according to it's Rules & Conditions. Any Australina Foggers heard from Festool AUS yet?

Oh, there is the phone now!!  [smile]
« Last Edit: October 06, 2014, 08:00 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...congratulations Larso
« Reply #77 on: October 14, 2014, 03:47 AM »

Congratulations Larso.

It is great that at a FOG member has won the TSC55 Competition as announced on the Festool AUS Facebook Page this afternoon.

See -
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia


Now for my personal and private reaction -



If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #78 on: October 14, 2014, 05:26 AM »
Thanks mate,very happy with this prize.

I now have 5 Festool track saws!!! [eek]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #79 on: October 14, 2014, 06:07 AM »
I thought i recognized that name when i saw it on the Facebook feed.  Congrats Larso

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #80 on: October 14, 2014, 06:55 AM »
congrats Larso, enjoy the saw

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #81 on: October 15, 2014, 03:41 AM »
Thanks mate,very happy with this prize.

I now have 5 Festool track saws!!! [eek]

... and I felt a little greedy entering when I already had 3 [huh]

You could always give it to a charity - just hang on a second and I'll go and register one [wink]

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Re: One for the Aussies... October 22, Genuine Training or Sales event?
« Reply #82 on: October 16, 2014, 07:14 PM »

Did you receive an invitation from Festool Aust for training sessions on Oct 22?

I am left wondering if these are more a sales promotion than genuine training given the invitation's graphic style and information provided, the 'workshops' are shorter than 1/2 day, in fact 1/2 an hour, and that they are at a dealer rather than Festool Aust HQ. I do not want to travel 2 hrs to attend a sales event dressed up as 'training', but might if it was genuine 1/2 day.

What do other Aussies think?
Is this a dealer piggy backing on the recent Festool AUS training survey?


http://blog.festool.com.au/event/the-tool-house-festool-product-training/?instance_id=210
« Last Edit: October 16, 2014, 07:48 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies... October 22, Genuine Training or Sales event?
« Reply #83 on: October 16, 2014, 08:06 PM »

Did you receive an invitation from Festool Aust for training sessions on Oct 22?

I am left wondering if these are more a sales promotion than genuine training given the invitation's graphic style and information provided, the 'workshops' are shorter than 1/2 day, in fact 1/2 an hour, and that they are at a dealer rather than Festool Aust HQ. I do not want to travel 2 hrs to attend a sales event dressed up as 'training', but might if it was genuine 1/2 day.

What do other Aussies think?
Is this a dealer piggy backing on the recent Festool AUS training survey?


http://blog.festool.com.au/event/the-tool-house-festool-product-training/?instance_id=210

I'd attend something like that if it was convenient and it was in my spare time. You're not going to learn anything new that'll change the way you use your current Festools ... That'd be purely targeted as selling you more.

My local (Northern Abrasives) put on evenings to run through just a couple of tools and give you heaps of time to get hands on and ask questions - those I make an effort to attend.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Is this Kev on Festool Aust Facebook?
« Reply #84 on: November 09, 2014, 07:14 PM »

Recently on a post Kev published his picture wearing a Festool Cap.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/what-festool-promotional-or-rare-items-do-you-have/msg350785/#msg350785

Today looking at Festool Aust Facebook page and the item share with us what you are doing this weekend I see -

https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia?hc_location=timeline



Must be him, look at the number of Festools!  [big grin]
« Last Edit: November 09, 2014, 07:19 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies... Is this Kev on Festool Aust Facebook?
« Reply #85 on: November 09, 2014, 11:03 PM »

Recently on a post Kev published his picture wearing a Festool Cap.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/what-festool-promotional-or-rare-items-do-you-have/msg350785/#msg350785

Today looking at Festool Aust Facebook page and the item share with us what you are doing this weekend I see -

https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia?hc_location=timeline

(Attachment Link)

Must be him, look at the number of Festools!  [big grin]

That's not me! Spooky though - to look at he could almost be a younger brother [eek]

... and nowhere near enough Festools [wink]

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Re: One for the Aussies... Must be Kev!
« Reply #86 on: November 09, 2014, 11:44 PM »
 

Yes must be your 'brother' because the only difference between the two photos I could see was that the person in the Facebook image had had a shave and shower!  [big grin]  [smile]  [eek]
« Last Edit: November 09, 2014, 11:51 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #87 on: November 10, 2014, 05:52 AM »


C'mon ... you can think that's me [eek]

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #88 on: November 10, 2014, 07:09 AM »


Fair enough!




LOL
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #89 on: November 10, 2014, 08:50 AM »
Im blinnndddddddddd.. I canntt seee it feels like my eyes are bleeding

Thought this was Kev

« Last Edit: November 10, 2014, 08:57 AM by jobsworth »
Loving the Calif sun....

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #90 on: November 11, 2014, 12:20 AM »
Im blinnndddddddddd.. I canntt seee it feels like my eyes are bleeding

Thought this was Kev

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I've lost a little hair since then, but at least my teeth have grown back [wink]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #91 on: November 12, 2014, 10:02 PM »
Hey Kev i noticed in the background of one of your pics a hammerlock workbench and thought you (and maybe others) might be interested in the plywood drawer cubes i made a while back for my hammerlock benches.
As my wife seems determined to stay in the Air Force and we are still moving around on a regular basis all my gear has to fit in a double garage as that is the only shed space i can be gauranteed to have in each location.
Over the last few years i have made heaps of different cupboards and benches etc which i can dismantle and re-establish quickly each time we move.The hammerlock started as a quick fix but with the addition of the drawers have become super handy and they do break down and go back together very easily.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #92 on: November 13, 2014, 03:48 AM »
Hey Kev i noticed in the background of one of your pics a hammerlock workbench and thought you (and maybe others) might be interested in the plywood drawer cubes i made a while back for my hammerlock benches.
As my wife seems determined to stay in the Air Force and we are still moving around on a regular basis all my gear has to fit in a double garage as that is the only shed space i can be gauranteed to have in each location.
Over the last few years i have made heaps of different cupboards and benches etc which i can dismantle and re-establish quickly each time we move.The hammerlock started as a quick fix but with the addition of the drawers have become super handy and they do break down and go back together very easily.
Cool idea thanks [wink]

One of the first things I did was replace the tops with 25mm ply. The MDF on them is fine as a shelf, but useless as a bench top.

Something somewhat related, I remember seeing somewhere a guy had mounted those plastic milk crate size cubes on drawer runners in a hammerlock shelf frame ... wish I had a pick of the detail to share!

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies. They are on the way.
« Reply #93 on: November 21, 2014, 03:02 AM »
Those of you on the Festool AUS email list would now know the Wings and Drawers will be down under in January and the Vecturo in March.

Looks like our NA friends are ahead of us this time!  [eek] [big grin]
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies. They are on the way.
« Reply #94 on: November 21, 2014, 05:29 AM »
Those of you on the Festool AUS email list would now know the Wings and Drawers will be down under in January and the Vecturo in March.

Looks like our NA friends are ahead of us this time!  [eek] [big grin]

Yeh - not happy Jane!!

Plus the eoy sale isn't that special .. picked up a cheap CHP45, AGP125, 6 more Protool TB's and a Winkel-angle-thing. They never put the stuff on sale I REALLY want ... so I just buy more "stuff" [embarassed]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #95 on: November 21, 2014, 06:18 AM »
Look at the bright side, you'll just about be done paying off the Xmas gifts then yer back in hock for the festool toys  [big grin]
Loving the Calif sun....

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies. They are on the way.
« Reply #96 on: November 21, 2014, 06:21 AM »
Those of you on the Festool AUS email list would now know the Wings and Drawers will be down under in January and the Vecturo in March.

Looks like our NA friends are ahead of us this time!  [eek] [big grin]

Yeh - not happy Jane!!

Plus the eoy sale isn't that special .. picked up a cheap CHP45, AGP125, 6 more Protool TB's and a Winkel-angle-thing. They never put the stuff on sale I REALLY want ... so I just buy more "stuff" [embarassed]


Kev was the EOY sale just at Northern Abrasives? Could not find any details on Festool Aus website
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“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #97 on: November 21, 2014, 02:13 PM »
All Festool resellers would have got the promo - I first noticed the discounts on the ideal tools.com.au website.

Significant discounts were mainly on Protool lines. Unfortunately some things I already have were well discounted [sad]

Still a few cheap corded drills.

I hear what's left will go up on the Festool site cheap as a direct offer.

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Re: Re: Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #98 on: November 21, 2014, 04:11 PM »
10% off EVERYTHING in May at Carba-Tec

What's that America? 10% off only dominos?!

Aussies do it better  :P

Not really a discount given their already premium prices on festool more than 10% more than other options in Australia. Plus they put their prices up significantly on everything else recently too.

I didn't think dealers were allowed to set their own prices.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #99 on: November 22, 2014, 01:23 AM »
 
10% off EVERYTHING in May at Carba-Tec

What's that America? 10% off only dominos?!

Aussies do it better  :P

Not really a discount given their already premium prices on festool more than 10% more than other options in Australia. Plus they put their prices up significantly on everything else recently too.

I didn't think dealers were allowed to set their own prices.


Only in NA. Everywhere else is recommended retail price or variations.

For example compare these two AUS sites for KAPEX.
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/561288/SubProducts/561288

http://justtools.com.au/festool-sliding-compound-mitre-saw-561288-kapex-ks120eb

« Last Edit: November 22, 2014, 06:14 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...problems with Festool Aust Website!
« Reply #100 on: December 24, 2014, 07:50 PM »

It could be Safari, or latest IPad operating system, or the webmaster at Festool Aust., or all three causing two problems for me with their website during the past few weeks.

1. I find that I can no longer download manuals. I had a similar problem with UK site earlier in the year when they changed to a format no longer supported by IBooks.

2. The search feature is inoperable on some pages within the site. As can be seen in the screen shot there is a frozen 'About Us' in outline print with a vertical line over the key in box.

Obviously I want this fixed by New Years Day!  Ha ha!  [big grin] [popcorn]  [big grin]

Can anyone else confirm this difficulty using an IPad with or without latest OS, or with PC?  With appreciation.

« Last Edit: December 24, 2014, 07:56 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #101 on: December 26, 2014, 08:28 AM »
Yep, I have the same problem searching the festool Aus web site with my ipad, I'm using version 6.1.3.
 If I need to look anything up, I have to reach for the lap top. Widows 7, no problems there so it's only on the ipad where this occurs.
  I find that Festool aren't alone in their web site not working properly on the ipad, there was a few other sites, can't remember which ones though.  I'm sure this is an easy fix for festool to sort out.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #102 on: December 26, 2014, 03:11 PM »
Thanks DB.

I emailed a less embellished version of my post to Festool Aus. yesterday. Will see what transpires.

If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #103 on: December 26, 2014, 06:35 PM »
Thanks for taking the time to contact them.
  I'll be interested in there response and what they have to say as it's a pain when you want to check on something quickly.

 Thanks

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...congratulations Festool Aus Web staff
« Reply #104 on: December 30, 2014, 12:49 AM »


Congratulations and appreciation to Holger and his staff at Festool Australia who have been working the past few days to make the Festool website IPad friendly.

IPad users should now find the Search function now works, and manuals can now be downloaded to IBooks.

So far I have successfully downloaded the following manuals-
BHC 18, PD20 QuaDrill, Boom Arm, TS55, DSG 125 and KA 65 Conturo (Color).
Vac clamp system, PD20 QuaDrill , PF1200, PS420 and Kapex 120
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #105 on: December 30, 2014, 04:13 AM »
  Good work, I'd noticed earlier today that it looked a little different, so I tried a search & it was working fine.

 Thanks,

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #106 on: January 01, 2015, 07:31 AM »
Regarding pricing of Festool products in Australia....
I was advised last week by my main Festool retailer they have been told from the local importer that from next year (now) they must sell Festool at RRP.  No discounting will be permitted.  Has anyone heard similar information?

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #107 on: January 01, 2015, 07:49 AM »
Yes, heard that the 'no discount' was coming. Certainly will make a difference, as our RRP's seem to be high, compared to elsewhere.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #108 on: January 01, 2015, 08:25 AM »
Yes, heard that the 'no discount' was coming. Certainly will make a difference, as our RRP's seem to be high, compared to elsewhere.

[eek]
If true, no sign of it yet at one known discounting dealers Website. Still they would not change prices until at earliest later today Jan 2, AESST.

Also is this not price fixing, which is not permitted by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission?

<<edited - P.Halle - Moderator>>
« Last Edit: January 01, 2015, 09:30 AM by Peter Halle »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #109 on: January 01, 2015, 08:43 AM »
If true, it would likely be a breach of the ACCC.  However, in practice it usually results in no action. 

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #110 on: January 03, 2015, 04:18 AM »
It wouldn't surprise me, anyone else noticed a slight arrogance with Festool Australia?

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #111 on: January 03, 2015, 04:56 AM »
Regarding pricing of Festool products in Australia....
I was advised last week by my main Festool retailer they have been told from the local importer that from next year (now) they must sell Festool at RRP.  No discounting will be permitted.  Has anyone heard similar information?

Nobody can truly stop discounting - it just takes on other forms.

"Forced RRP" is a bit of an oxymoron too ! [wink]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #112 on: January 08, 2015, 07:14 AM »

No evidence that discounting has ended yet.

Look out for these specials and drawer and wing introductory prices at -

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Categories/News/January__March_Specials

And looking through the website, there appears to have been some item by item price rises, particularly for MFT accessories.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2015, 07:45 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #113 on: January 08, 2015, 09:27 AM »
Regarding pricing of Festool products in Australia....
I was advised last week by my main Festool retailer they have been told from the local importer that from next year (now) they must sell Festool at RRP.  No discounting will be permitted.  Has anyone heard similar information?

I was told the same thing.... thought won't take effect till a bit later in the year, around April if i recall correctly.  Service and support are to be the extra benefits.  Like immediate loan tools if yours goes in for service.  + a few other initiatives i can't recall.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #114 on: January 12, 2015, 05:26 AM »
I heard discounting stops april

I was told festool Australia won court case with ACCC to allow this to happen

Regards
Bryan

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #115 on: January 12, 2015, 06:21 AM »
https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-authorises-minimum-retail-prices-on-festool-power-tools

I can see why Festool would want to alleviate the issue of real shops providing information and service, but online retailers making the sales. However, I buy my Festool gear through Just Tools in Sth Melbourne, who provide good service and generally have the cheapest prices.

Anyway, those retailers are going to be in luck now, with an instant bonus once they're "forced" to all sell at the same higher price!

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #116 on: January 12, 2015, 07:08 AM »
Interesting article.  Thanks for posting.

Peter
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #117 on: January 13, 2015, 03:45 AM »
[url=https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-authorises-minimum-retail-prices-on-festool-power-tools]https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-authorises-minimum-retail-prices-on-festool-power-tools [/URL]

I can see why Festool would want to alleviate the issue of real shops providing information and service, but online retailers making the sales. However, I buy my Festool gear through Just Tools in Sth Melbourne, who provide good service and generally have the cheapest prices.

Anyway, those retailers are going to be in luck now, with an instant bonus once they're "forced" to all sell at the same higher price!

Cannot see how the already excellent service provided by Just Tools will improve just because of retail price maintenance!

And there is at least one other dealer in Melbourne that does not discount and whose service is just not in the same league!

Pitty the ACCC did  not canvas some customer views.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2015, 03:55 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #118 on: January 13, 2015, 03:57 AM »

And there is at least one other dealer in Melbourne that does not discount and whose service is just not in the same league!

+1..  If you're referring to a certain place in the south east, I was a little bit disappointed when I visited a couple of weeks ago, and knew more about the Festool range (after owning a few tools for 2 months) than the staff working that day.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #119 on: January 13, 2015, 04:02 AM »

And there is at least one other dealer in Melbourne that does not discount and whose service is just not in the same league!

+1..  If you're referring to a certain place in the south east, I was a little bit disappointed when I visited a couple of weeks ago, and knew more about the Festool range (after owning a few tools for 2 months) than the staff working that day.

 [smile] sssshhhh! They may hear us, and shock, horror lift their game!   [eek]
« Last Edit: January 13, 2015, 07:26 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #120 on: January 13, 2015, 04:46 AM »
I have purchased Festool in NSW,QLD and the ACT over many years and the dealers have always registered the tools for me and I then recieved confirmation etc by mail around 3 to 4 weeks later.
I bought several products last year and this was still the same. I have never even thought to try registering myself online as it has never been required.Thought this was normal but maybe i have just been lucky.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #121 on: January 13, 2015, 05:25 AM »
I have purchased Festool in NSW,QLD and the ACT over many years and the dealers have always registered the tools for me and I then recieved confirmation etc by mail around 3 to 4 weeks later.
I bought several products last year and this was still the same. I have never even thought to try registering myself online as it has never been required.Thought this was normal but maybe i have just been lucky.

Hi Larso,

It is normal in my experience.
Did not even know you could register on line in Aus.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2015, 05:28 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #122 on: January 13, 2015, 06:13 AM »
Well thats embarrassing,reading several posts but replying to the wrong one!

Would probably have made more sense to you if i put it in this topic

Registering tools in Aust by mike68au  (Ask Festool)

Oh well hope someone here notices this and moves it to the correct spot.


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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #123 on: January 13, 2015, 06:50 AM »
The ACCC acknowledge the introduction of Resale Price Maintenance (RPM) for Festool products in Australia will lead to some consumers paying more for Festool products.
Price fixing will be good for most retailers but consumers will be 'slugged' with paying more for products that are already expensive.  How much more will we be asked to pay?  I can myself looking at other brands of power tools in the future.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #124 on: January 13, 2015, 07:11 AM »


Can anyone confirm April (1?) as the month this comes in to force.

The full judgement on page 27 says it comes into force from December 27th, 2014. It expires on December 31st, 2018. (Carn't wait?!  [smile]).

Full judgement -
http://registers.accc.gov.au/content/trimFile.phtml?trimFileTitle=D14+166765.pdf&trimFileFromVersionId=1183406&trimFileName=D14+166765.pdf
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #125 on: January 13, 2015, 09:50 AM »
The ACCC acknowledge the introduction of Resale Price Maintenance (RPM) for Festool products in Australia will lead to some consumers paying more for Festool products.
Price fixing will be good for most retailers but consumers will be 'slugged' with paying more for products that are already expensive.  How much more will we be asked to pay?  I can myself looking at other brands of power tools in the future.
Yep It's all about greed, if Just tools can sell at a certain price and still make profit, what justification does Tooltechnic have to charge higher prices, after all Just tools must get their tools through Tooltechnic.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #126 on: January 14, 2015, 02:49 AM »
Regarding timing of price fixing in Australia the ACCC state

 The roll out of its new dealer agreement will take some months and it expects to settle changes to the composition of the Festool dealership and the dealer types in early to mid 2016.
 It will take Tooltechnic 12 months to implement its proposed changes post- authorisation, including increased provision of training, installation of new premium shops and monitoring the performance of dealers.
 In this same 12 month transition period, dealers will need to familiarise themselves with the new agreement and determine the extent to which they will invest in facilities intended to improve retail services (such as setting up demonstration and repair facilities in-store).
 If the period of authorisation ends in December 2017 as proposed in the draft determination, this gives dealers less than two years of certainty in relation to margins from their investments in retail services. Tooltechnic is of the view that the improvements in retail services flowing from the authorisation will not be as significant during a three year authorisation compared to a longer period of time

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Re: One for the Aussies... Wood and Installers Kit.
« Reply #127 on: February 08, 2015, 07:25 PM »





Am I wrong? But does Festool import (or has in the past) either the Installers or the new Wood Kits to Australia? Can not find either on website

If not, this is a NAIA!  [eek] [eek]
« Last Edit: February 08, 2015, 07:30 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #128 on: February 11, 2015, 10:07 AM »
I didn't want to start a new thread for this, so thought i would add it here:

Recently I was asked by my Festool Rep to write a testimonial in regards to my Festool purchases and usage.  I agreed and was e-mailed a small list of questions and also asked to write a bit about myself as well. 

In return i was given some promotional items and was very grateful.  There was also the mention that they may use my testimonial in on the blog/ web page in the future

Well that future has come to be and Festool Australia has done a Customer Focus article on myself and posted it on there Blog page.  Very happy to share my thoughts and feelings on their products.  [big grin]

http://blog.festool.com.au/general-information/customer-focus-mike-bahr/
« Last Edit: February 11, 2015, 10:48 AM by mike68au »

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #129 on: February 11, 2015, 05:27 PM »


Great article Mike.

You certainly do enjoy the Festool work flow.


Edit.
I see from your own blog, that you have updated your vehicle.
Is it decked out with home built Systainer racks yet?
« Last Edit: February 11, 2015, 09:26 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #130 on: February 12, 2015, 01:56 AM »
Yes i have changed indeed Untidy.

Gave up the VW Caddy Van and went with the VW Amarok Dual Cab Ute.  Vast change but it has worked out quite well.  The sysytainers have definitely made the transition easy.

I have wanted a dual cab for a long time plusI also wanted a dual purpose vehicle and something that could carry more than 2 people and the Amarok fitted the bill for me.  And it is so so much better to drive than the Van.

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Re: One for the Aussies..discounting ends April 1.
« Reply #131 on: February 17, 2015, 07:17 PM »
April 1 is confirmed for end of discounting of Festool in Australia.  [eek]

Festool Australia may have really misjudged the Australian market environment in seeking this exemption from the ACCC. Other tool importers/companies generally  allow retail price setting, and Australians expect 'mates rates'.

If your local Festool dealer discounts,
NOW, might be the time for a visit.   [smile]

Not happy!!   [sad] [mad]


and sadly this is not an April Fools Joke!



Can anyone confirm April (1?) as the month this comes in to force.

The full judgement on page 27 says it comes into force from December 27th, 2014. It expires on December 31st, 2018. (Carn't wait?!  [smile]).

Full judgement -
http://registers.accc.gov.au/content/trimFile.phtml?trimFileTitle=D14+166765.pdf&trimFileFromVersionId=1183406&trimFileName=D14+166765.pdf
« Last Edit: February 17, 2015, 07:28 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies... Carroll's Woodcraft Supplies
« Reply #132 on: March 12, 2015, 03:09 AM »
Today I discovered Carroll's Woodcraft Supplies, located in Moolap just 10 mins drive east of Geelong's CBD.

A little gem for those looking for specialist finishing oils, French Polish, waxes and Titebond Glues.

They also stock machine tabletop treatments such as SureGlide

Check their website at -
http://www.cwsonline.com.au/index.html

For those Australians living South West of Melbourne [and in SW Victoria], this small business is a viable alternative for many finishing products that due to postal regulations, require a personal trip to that certain big store in SE Melbourne. And many other products can be purchased on line.

I have no connection, and only discovered them today in my quest for Titebond.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2015, 03:45 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #133 on: March 12, 2015, 04:44 AM »
I know that you have an untidy shop but you seem to have misplaced your antique plumb bobs.

Thanks for the link it sure is closer to me than the far side of Melbourne. [big grin]

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... 30 Day Return in Australia/ Vecturo arives
« Reply #134 on: March 31, 2015, 07:28 AM »

As most Australian Festoolians know, in 1hr and 35 mins [AEST], dealer discounting of Festool items ends in Australia.

Just looked at the Festool Australia a Website and as expected we get in return for no discounting, Service All Inclusive with 30 day returns.

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Categories/Services_Support/service_all_inclusives

Purchased my last discounted Festool yesterday, a Systainer Mini.


On a brighter note for some the Vecturo Multi Tool has just been released down here -

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/sec0b7e15a304/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/563010/SubProducts/563010
« Last Edit: March 31, 2015, 05:35 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #135 on: March 31, 2015, 09:13 AM »
Put my order in yesterday with JT, for my new ETS 150/3... Might get it before Easter with any luck.

 Just checked out the New OS 400 Vecturo on their site and At $850, Think I'll be sticking with my Fein.

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Offline Mike B

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #138 on: March 31, 2015, 10:01 PM »
Is that "photo" of other things you can put in your $653 Assembly Wood Package!?  [blink] I've never been happier that I bought my far more complete Centrotec set last year for so much less...

Definitely looking forward to the ETS-EC150 though. My Fein however is under no threat from that Vecturo.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Oops Festool Australia!
« Reply #139 on: April 11, 2015, 08:51 AM »

Just look at this page re the TXS and you will see the confusion by the webmaster!

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564516/SubProducts/564516

The good news here though is that those Aussies looking for a 'T' alternative to the 'C' of the CXS: it has arrived.


See #137.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2015, 09:48 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #140 on: April 14, 2015, 08:45 AM »
Does anyone know if the new 2.6ah CXS & TXS sets come with two batteries, I know they do in Europe but it's not always the case that a set will be the same in Aus.
 Whilst looking on the Festool Aus web site,  It is not clear on how many batteries are included.
It also took a lot of searching to find the new 10.8v 2.6 batteries on their web site and they do not as yet, have a price against them.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #141 on: April 14, 2015, 08:40 PM »
Picked it up yet DB?  [smile]

@DB10


Put my order in yesterday with JT, for my new ETS 150/3... Might get it before Easter with any luck.

 Just checked out the New OS 400 Vecturo on their site and At $850, Think I'll be sticking with my Fein.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2015, 08:43 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #142 on: April 14, 2015, 09:08 PM »
Has anyone heard anything about the C18 becoming available in Aus?

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #143 on: April 14, 2015, 11:27 PM »
The new ETS 150, did eventually turn up. but I didn't order the $850 model. I ordered the old tried and tested model. Going to try and register it today.

As for the C18, we are usually about three months behind Europe on new releases, so it should be soon I would have thought.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #144 on: April 14, 2015, 11:48 PM »
The new ETS . . .   Going to try and register it today.

Didn't ' JT' register it for you?  They always have for me. Last time was in mid  Feb, and Registration Confirmation Email arrived two weeks later.

Enjoy the sander, it is The Festool that got me hooked.

@DB10
« Last Edit: April 14, 2015, 11:54 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #145 on: April 15, 2015, 12:03 AM »
@Untidy Shop @benwheeler That's a good point, I'll check with them before hand.

 I've just spoken with Festool Aus regarding how many batteries come with the new CXS as their web site is not clear and they don't know they will go out to the warehouse and check the stock for me.
  I hope it does as its $385 for the set. And C&L tool centre up in Queensland are selling it for $ 399, and they state on their website that it has two batteries, I don't want to be paying $15 less but only get one battery.

 On a side note I asked Festool Aus about the C18 release date and they are being sent out to the dealers today and apparently it is now up on the Festool Aus web site.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #146 on: April 15, 2015, 12:06 AM »
Can't see it there yet - maybe soon. My wallet is shuddering as we speak!

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #147 on: April 15, 2015, 12:21 AM »
I can't see it there either, but they assured me it's out there.
My wallet has now gone into hiding.
 Good news is that Festool Aus have just confirmed that the CXS definitely comes with two batteries and they will update their website to state this accordingly.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #148 on: April 15, 2015, 12:29 AM »
I can't see it there either, but they assured me it's out there.
My wallet has now gone into hiding.
 Good news is that Festool Aus have just confirmed that the CXS definitely comes with two batteries and they will update their website to state this accordingly.

The C18 will probably appear on their website overnight. I note they are still calling the TXS a CXS in the text. Apart from my recent comment in this thread, I also emailed them last week.

With the C18, my wallet is quite relaxed as in Feb, I purchased a C15 made in Jan this year; and at a discounted price!  [smile]

Remember when we had discounting!  [eek]

@benwheeler @DB10
« Last Edit: April 15, 2015, 12:32 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #149 on: April 15, 2015, 01:30 AM »
@Untidy Shop Yep, JT had registered it for me, there a good bunch of lads over there. Thanks for the heads up on that.
 You got me started on Discounting now.
My local Festool Dealer is day dreaming when he said to me that price fixing will be good for their business,  as all dealers will now have to play on a level playing field.

 My local dealer has now become quite obsolete to me, there is no point for me to drive 45 mins burning up fuel to put an order in with a sales person who knows very little about festool, as the so called expert on hand is never there.
Only to find that most of what I need they won't hold in stock and will have to order in, resulting in a return trip usually a week later when the stock arrives.
 When I can order on line with Festool Aus at the same prices, my orders usually come post free and arrive in one go a few days later.
 There is only one business who will thrive with this arrangement and I wonder who that will be.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #150 on: April 15, 2015, 02:09 AM »
@Untidy Shop Yep, JT had registered it for me, there a good bunch of lads over there. Thanks for the heads up on that.
 You got me started on Discounting now.
My local Festool Dealer is day dreaming when he said to me that price fixing will be good for their business,  as all dealers will now have to play on a level playing field.

 My local dealer has now become quite obsolete to me, there is no point for me to drive 45 mins burning up fuel to put an order in with a sales person who knows very little about festool, as the so called expert on hand is never there.
Only to find that most of what I need they won't hold in stock and will have to order in, resulting in a return trip usually a week later when the stock arrives.
 When I can order on line with Festool Aus at the same prices, my orders usually come post free and arrive in one go a few days later.
 There is only one business who will thrive with this arrangement and I wonder who that will be.

Couldn't agree more, what was the ACCC thinking when they thought this move would increase competition!!?

I will continue to support JT however, as their staff offer excellent service and knowledge and both shop and Internet services.  And they sell more than just Festool. It is customer service such as theirs that will keep some stores selling Festool due to demand from their own 'fan' base.

Whether some other stores drop Festool as their service is not up to scratch and sales drop, or reduce their display space and range, in the face of Festool HQ Internet sales, remains to be seen.

@DB10

« Last Edit: April 15, 2015, 10:27 AM by Untidy Shop »
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“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #151 on: April 15, 2015, 06:52 AM »
The last Festool I bought was an HL850, about six months ago  from my local, with a nice discount. I honestly can't see when my next Festool purchase will be, with the already high prices, and no chance of getting a better than retail price.
Thing is, I'd like to keep my 1400 router in a table, and buy a 1010 for hand/guide rail use. I could have got the price down enough, that buying a Makita (for example) would cease to be an attractive option. I would pay the bit extra and not even think about it. Now, buying another brand and leaving that in the table, freeing up my 1400, seems like a much better idea.
I recently upgraded my TS55, and in the past would have checked out the 75 - but it make more sense to import a different saw direct from Germany.
Looks like the change has had an effect on me.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #152 on: April 15, 2015, 07:44 AM »
The last Festool I bought was an HL850, about six months ago  from my local, with a nice discount. I honestly can't see when my next Festool purchase will be, with the already high prices, and no chance of getting a better than retail price.
Thing is, I'd like to keep my 1400 router in a table, and buy a 1010 for hand/guide rail use. I could have got the price down enough, that buying a Makita (for example) would cease to be an attractive option. I would pay the bit extra and not even think about it. Now, buying another brand and leaving that in the table, freeing up my 1400, seems like a much better idea.
I recently upgraded my TS55, and in the past would have checked out the 75 - but it make more sense to import a different saw direct from Germany.
Looks like the change has had an effect on me.
I too haven't bought a new Festool in the last six months.  At my last visit (6 months ago)
to my preferred Premium Festool dealer I was told about about the ACCC decision to allow Festool price fixing in Australia.  This is a total turn off to me.
Over the last few years I have bought at least twenty Festool tools.  I expect future purchases will be a mix of different brands. 



Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #153 on: April 15, 2015, 09:03 AM »
 [thumbs up] [thumbs up]  for JT. Just wish I lived within driving distance to them.

 You are right about this price fixing being a turn off, whether you are trade or not if you are spending big bucks with one supplier, and we are talking about enough money here to buy a  car, you expect a bit of discount, it's the way it's always been and it makes you feel valued. And that's what's missing here now, as a customer you don't feel valued anymore.
 Dealers can't help as their hands have now been tied, so it is only natural to start looking at other brands for new purchases, and if you look at the three big M's Makita Milwaukee and Metabo, you can still get some good discounts there.

 Strange that Festool have chosen this route to price fix here, as there hasn't been any explanation to the customer from what I've seen, only what I've been told from the dealers. They wouldn't get away with this in Europe so why try it over here.
@Untidy Shop



Offline SittingElf

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #154 on: April 15, 2015, 09:24 AM »
We went through the same thing in the USA. Originally, there was the Sherman Anti-Trust Act that prohibited price fixing. Unfortunately, the Act was modified later which opened the gates for companies like Festool to set SELLING prices, not just Minimum Advertised Prices as was the case previously.

From the last post: "...and we are talking about enough money here to buy a  car..."
Ummm, actually about THREE cars! [eek]

I can't justify paying US$175 for a Syslite, though I'd love to have one. It would be nice if Festool "rewarded" me for my intense loyalty and purchases by sending me one as swag!  Festool, are you listening?  The hat was nice, but c'mon! Just saying.... [tongue]

Cheers,

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #155 on: April 15, 2015, 09:32 AM »
@Untidy Shop

 My local dealer has now become quite obsolete to me, there is no point for me to drive 45 mins burning up fuel to put an order in with a sales person who knows very little about festool, as the so called expert on hand is never there.
Only to find that most of what I need they won't hold in stock and will have to order in, resulting in a return trip usually a week later when the stock arrives.
 When I can order on line with Festool Aus at the same prices, my orders usually come post free and arrive in one go a few days later.
 There is only one business who will thrive with this arrangement and I wonder who that will be.

Just about to order a CMS-OF and non of my usual dealers carry it in stock, but will get it in and send it to me in a few days at retail+freight.

And as you say I can order online with Festool Aust at the same price, post free and get it quicker.

This is what the Aust Government considers to be competition - probably why in Aust two supermarket chains have 80% of the business.

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #156 on: April 15, 2015, 09:59 AM »
We went through the same thing in the USA. Originally, there was the Sherman Anti-Trust Act that prohibited price fixing. Unfortunately, the Act was modified later which opened the gates for companies like Festool to set SELLING prices, not just Minimum Advertised Prices as was the case previously.

From the last post: "...and we are talking about enough money here to buy a  car..."
Ummm, actually about THREE cars! [eek]

I can't justify paying US$175 for a Syslite, though I'd love to have one. It would be nice if Festool "rewarded" me for my intense loyalty and purchases by sending me one as swag!  Festool, are you listening?  The hat was nice, but c'mon! Just saying.... [tongue]

Cheers,

Frank
You are forgetting  that cars cost 3 times as much down here & Festools cost 10 times more.

 Hats would be nice,  we just get stubby holders now.

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Re: One for the Aussies... The Checkout.
« Reply #157 on: April 15, 2015, 10:17 AM »

I just emailed 'The Checkout' ABC program re ACCC decision. They probably will not pick it up, but I feel better now!  [smile] [eek]


For information of non-Aussies 'The Checkout' is a satirical consumer rights program.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/thecheckout/

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« Last Edit: April 15, 2015, 10:25 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Re: One for the Aussies...Just Tools Revised Website.
« Reply #158 on: April 20, 2015, 06:09 PM »

JT have just revised their website (and their prices since April 1). For Festools look at -
http://justtools.com.au/festool-shop

You should note they are now offering free Australia wide delivery for most items.

And to see images of their shop front Festool display see -
http://justtools.com.au/festool-shop-(2)

Please note:
I have no direct connection with JT other than being a very satisfied customer.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2015, 06:11 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #159 on: April 20, 2015, 06:56 PM »
Looks like those pictures of their shop were taken a few years ago,
 if you had to take a guess, how many years?

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #160 on: April 20, 2015, 07:16 PM »
Looks like those pictures of their shop were taken a few years ago,
 if you had to take a guess, how many years?

Yeah, no T-locks is a bit of a giveaway. Can't see anything Domino related, either.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #161 on: April 20, 2015, 07:24 PM »
They're going to have to take that sale sign off the window before they get in trouble!

No sign of the C18 still that I can find, either on Festool Australia or elsewhere..

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #162 on: April 20, 2015, 08:18 PM »
Looks like those pictures of their shop were taken a few years ago,
 if you had to take a guess, how many years?


Mmmm, must admit I did not look too closely at the shop photos. Apart from no t locks,  that is not even their current layout!  [eek] [embarassed]
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #163 on: April 20, 2015, 08:25 PM »
Doh,  I bumped into the Festool rep yesterday, and was having a chat, I had a few questions regarding the Kapex, sorry totally forgot to ask about the C18.

 If you get a chance give Festool a call, because it was last week now that they said to me it's going up on their web site.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #164 on: April 20, 2015, 11:16 PM »
Doh,  I bumped into the Festool rep yesterday, and was having a chat, I had a few questions regarding the Kapex, sorry totally forgot to ask about the C18.

 If you get a chance give Festool a call, because it was last week now that they said to me it's going up on their web site.



As of 13.15hrs AEST today.
'. . . using (what) different words'.

--------
DB did you and the Festool Rep discuss the ACCC!?  [big grin]

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« Last Edit: April 20, 2015, 11:25 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #165 on: April 21, 2015, 12:24 AM »
Although to be fair, that search probably wouldn't work anyway - I think it's a "C 18"

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #166 on: April 21, 2015, 01:41 AM »
Although to be fair, that search probably wouldn't work anyway - I think it's a "C 18"

And to be further fair Ben, I should say that both C18 and C 18 give no result on the UK site either. There you have to find it via the product menu.

@benwheeler
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #167 on: April 21, 2015, 02:12 AM »
Untitdy, I didn't mention the ACCC.
 But the rep brought up the subject of "price fixing", not that he used those exact words and mentioned that, when you put an order in on line there is a section that you have to tick that states your premium shop. When the order goes through to Festool, your local Premium shop clocks up the sale!
This might explain why the big boys signed up to this deal because without their approval the ACCC deal would have been a non starter. Just a thought.

@Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #168 on: April 21, 2015, 02:33 AM »


Ah! As they say the plot thickens!  [smile]
And there goes the internet sales theory.

@DB10

Edit.
Just pretended to order a new ETS-EC 150/3 Orbital  Sander. Well why not! Yes all the dealers are listed in the window and one must be selected prior to getting out the credit card details.

That is where I unfortunately called a halt to the proceedings.  [popcorn]  [eek]
« Last Edit: April 21, 2015, 02:48 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #169 on: April 28, 2015, 08:34 AM »
Popped along to the Festool evening at Tool House in Dandenong this evening, which I confess I'd never heard of before. Awesome shop, and lots of good tool info from the presenter, the sales staff and even the attendees. I was very pleasantly surprised to find out that they offer an additional 2 years' warranty on top of Festool's, bringing it to 5 years in total. I reckon that's a pretty good deal! Makes me feel much better about the absence of discounting anyway. I couldn't help but lighten their stocks of ETS 150/3s :-D

Also, according to the boss man Chris, no C18 until August! The C15 was very impressive though..

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #170 on: April 29, 2015, 07:42 AM »
Did Festool notify you of the evening, went to tool house last year to but a load of stuff. I ended up walking out as one sales guy was to interested with his phone the other his cigarette at the door.
Ended up going to JT and got served much better and got a lot of things thrown in.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #171 on: April 30, 2015, 07:19 AM »
Did Festool notify you of the evening, went to tool house last year to but a load of stuff. I ended up walking out as one sales guy was to interested with his phone the other his cigarette at the door.
Ended up going to JT and got served much better and got a lot of things thrown in.
Although I've always opted-in to any Festool-related email I could find, the answer is no - I found out about that evening by following Festool on Facebook. One thing I think Festool Aus could definitely work on is communicating with its customers. They have a fairly captive audience of loyal purchasers, and yet I get almost no emails from them, and the Facebook page often just has inane questions such as "When using a multi tool what is your favourite accessory and blade to use?" Brilliant! That'll get people engaged!

Regarding TH vs JT, I've had great service from both. Chris (who seems to be the head honcho) at Tool House spent ages with me talking about various tools, but it I suppose it wasn't a normal sales situation.

Anyway, the 5 year warranty will certainly have me back there!

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #172 on: April 30, 2015, 07:33 AM »
Ben, an extra 2 years warranty is good, is it only TH that is doing this deal?

 My Local Festool dealer was having a training day today, I would have liked to have gone but it Was held between 10am and 3pm and I was working 40klms away so I missed out.

@benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #173 on: April 30, 2015, 02:55 PM »
Yes, just TH apparently.

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Re: One for the Aussies...is The Tool House in breach of ACC decision?
« Reply #174 on: April 30, 2015, 11:54 PM »

Only one month in from April 1, and we hear that The Tool House is offering a customer benefit not being offered or may be in fact not able to be offered by other dealers: that is; an extended Warrenty of 2 more years.

Surely this is not in the spirit of the level playing field promoted by the ACC decision.

Indeed it may even be in breach of that decision - page 26 Conditions, '  .  details of any changes made to standard dealer contracts'. In other words is Festool Australia providing additional access to its service and warranty sections that are not able to be accessed by other dealers, or is TH totally covering these additional costs?

If TH is covering these additional warranty costs, how is this different to a dealer who before April 1 also cut into their operating costs but by discounting?

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« Last Edit: May 01, 2015, 02:06 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #175 on: May 01, 2015, 12:50 AM »
My understanding is that the warranty is provided by Tool House, and they've been offering it for a couple of years.  Also - SHHHH! I want them to keep offering it :-D

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #176 on: May 01, 2015, 02:30 AM »
My understanding is that the warranty is provided by Tool House, and they've been offering it for a couple of years.  Also - SHHHH! I want them to keep offering it :-D

Shhhh too late - see Festool Australia FaceBook page. Be quick!   [eek]

https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia

@benwheeler
« Last Edit: May 01, 2015, 04:09 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Mike B

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #177 on: May 01, 2015, 04:01 AM »
Pretty disappointing May/June promo catalogue from Festool Aus IMO...

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #178 on: May 01, 2015, 07:47 AM »


Shhhh too late - see Festool Australia FaceBook page. Be quick!   [eek]

https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia

@benwheeler

Shhhh! What are you referring to? I can't see anything bad on their FB page or website..

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #179 on: May 01, 2015, 08:23 AM »


Shhhh too late - see Festool Australia FaceBook page. Be quick!   [eek]

https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia
@benwheeler

Shhhh! What are you referring to? I can't see anything bad on their FB page or website..
@benwheeler

Of course you carn't see anything bad Ben!  [big grin]

However look at the first comment under 'Posts to Page' which is a slight re-work of my post # 175.


« Last Edit: May 01, 2015, 08:27 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #180 on: May 01, 2015, 07:52 PM »
Can you claim copyright and get him to quickly delete the post before they see it?

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #181 on: May 01, 2015, 08:38 PM »
I'm voting with my feet today!
   First big tool purchase in a while and it's not going to be Festool...I've been asking Festool to make one of these for quite a while now but apparently according to the local Fes rep it's not do-able! Even though other manufacturers make them.
I'll give you a clue........It's going to be green,    Can you guess who makes it, and what it might be?

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #182 on: May 02, 2015, 01:16 AM »
??

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #183 on: May 02, 2015, 02:41 AM »
Pretty disappointing May/June promo catalogue from Festool Aus IMO...
Yes agree - I was hoping following the introduction of fixed pricing in Australia there would be some good promotions.  This would have been one way to appease price conscious buyers.

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #184 on: May 02, 2015, 08:46 AM »
Sorry Ben, nope, it's actually a very handy tool and it's cordless!

 Side note: The May June promo catalogue,
 Jeeze can it get any better than this. $45 dollars for an apron "while stocks last" don't all rush at once now.
They were certainly scrapping the bottom of the barrel when they put this together.

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #185 on: May 02, 2015, 06:57 PM »
Maybe it's a signal to those who were holding out for some good promotional pricing from time to time.. Just buy the darn tools, there ain't no discounts no more!

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #186 on: May 02, 2015, 07:00 PM »
Hehe, the forum just changed d-a-m-n to d-a-r-n. Good old American squeamishness - violence is A-O-K, but don't swear in front of the children!

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #187 on: May 02, 2015, 07:30 PM »
Hehe, the forum just changed d-a-m-n to d-a-r-n. Good old American squeamishness - violence is A-O-K, but don't swear in front of the children!

Word filters - love them or hate them.  They are here.  Sorry.    [tongue]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #188 on: May 02, 2015, 07:34 PM »
No problem - just haven't come across that before! I was about to ask if there's a list of unacceptably off-colour words for us potty-mouthed Aussies to study, but I suppose you wouldn't be able to see that in the forum anyway [emoji16]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #189 on: May 02, 2015, 07:49 PM »
Nothing against you Aussies or anyone else.  Just trying to keep it PG-13 or better.  A list is not available, and if it were I would hate to post it and encourage others to try to circumnavigate around it.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #190 on: May 03, 2015, 01:36 AM »
Crickey!

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #191 on: May 05, 2015, 08:30 AM »

Only one month in from April 1, and we hear that The Tool House is offering a customer benefit not being offered or may be in fact not able to be offered by other dealers: that is; an extended Warrenty of 2 more years.

Surely this is not in the spirit of the level playing field promoted by the ACC decision.

Indeed it may even be in breach of that decision - page 26 Conditions, '  .  details of any changes made to standard dealer contracts'. In other words is Festool Australia providing additional access to its service and warranty sections that are not able to be accessed by other dealers, or is TH totally covering these additional costs?

If TH is covering these additional warranty costs, how is this different to a dealer who before April 1 also cut into their operating costs but by discounting?

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Festool Australia have replied to this letter as posted on their FaceBook page. If interested, see - https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia
« Last Edit: May 05, 2015, 08:44 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #192 on: May 05, 2015, 07:42 PM »
Ah, thanks. I'm not sure what the best case scenario was from complaining to Festool. Perhaps he's a rival dealer [emoji16]

Anyway, good result from my point of view!

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #193 on: May 05, 2015, 08:10 PM »
Hi Untidy, I couldn't see the reply on Face book, but then I'm not a member, do you need to be on Facebook to see replies?
 I'm not trying to be the last person alive who is not on Facebook, I just don't need the distraction, hard enough getting a days work in as it is.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #194 on: May 05, 2015, 08:13 PM »
Hi Untidy, I couldn't see the reply on Face book, but then I'm not a member, do you need to be on Facebook to see replies?
 I'm not trying to be the last person alive who is not on Facebook, I just don't need the distraction, hard enough getting a days work in as it is.

Took me a while to find it as I too am not a facebook junkie.


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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #196 on: May 05, 2015, 11:18 PM »
Ah, thanks. I'm not sure what the best case scenario was from complaining to Festool. Perhaps he's a rival dealer [emoji16]

Anyway, good result from my point of view!

Thanks Ben for publishing the direct link.

It might be time for you to realise that 1+ 1 = is not always 'Tidy'.  [big grin]

Anyway time to move on, me thinks! I have taken this issue as far as I care to!

 @benwheeler
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #197 on: May 06, 2015, 09:24 AM »
Thanks Ben.
I always seem to struggle to find anything on Facebook, on the rare occasions I do go on There, I find it very disorganised.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Festool Facebook Survey/Win a Tool.
« Reply #198 on: May 07, 2015, 09:15 AM »
This Evening [AEST], Festool Australia posted a Survey on their Facebook Page. If you complete the survey, you can enter a draw, at your option, with a prize of your choice of a cordless Festool. Survey closes end of May.

Good luck (to me)  [big grin].


Details -
https://www.getfeedback.com/r/e5GX5BaB
Or
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #199 on: May 07, 2015, 02:59 PM »
Ooh! Thanks for lowering your chances [emoji2]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #200 on: May 07, 2015, 08:21 PM »
Wow! That was a long survey.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #201 on: May 07, 2015, 08:47 PM »
Wow! That was a long survey.

Yes, pity you wasted so much time for no prize!  [big grin] [big grin] [smile]

Interesting how it was more about the dealer experience than anything else!

@benwheeler

To  others yet to do the survey -
Allow up to ten minutes, it is not as quick as suggested. You are able to leave it and come back latter, well I did through my Facebook link. Also you can opt in or out of the prize draw.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2015, 09:28 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #202 on: May 07, 2015, 09:29 PM »
I think you've made a mistake - it was a very fruitful use of my time, in order to receive my prize [emoji16]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #203 on: May 08, 2015, 07:44 AM »
I've not looked at the survey yet, but it can't be any worse than the AEG survey that I filled in a couple of weeks back, that was an hour of my life I won't get back!

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #204 on: May 12, 2015, 08:39 AM »
I've not looked at the survey yet, but it can't be any worse than the AEG survey that I filled in a couple of weeks back, that was an hour of my life I won't get back!

The survey was~ 5-10 minutes... It seemed long.

My feedback that the repairs were lacking in feedback, was confirmed yesterday when the Mrs said that Festool called to say that they delivered the tool to the shop I got it from rather than directly to my haus.
I am happy it is fixed though and look forward to using it again.

I did not think I would need the warranty, but it just did not work when trying to pick up liquid as it always shut itself off nearly immediately.

Which cordless Festool I get will be a challenge to decide if I win. I might need some help  [wink]

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #205 on: May 12, 2015, 09:04 AM »
I've not looked at the survey yet, but it can't be any worse than the AEG survey that I filled in a couple of weeks back, that was an hour of my life I won't get back!
Filled out the Festool survey, what a breeze compared to the AEG survey a few weeks back.
I'd like to win a C18 but it still hasn't been released yet!

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #206 on: May 16, 2015, 09:42 PM »
I couldn't see anything regarding the 90 Years celebration on the Aus Festool website. Does anyone know if this will be rolled out down here.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #207 on: May 19, 2015, 08:52 AM »
90 years ... only thing I've seen in terms of Oz is the bit on the new pamphlet.

I haven't purchased anything Festool for almost 3 months ... lack of spare time lately has had me bordering on some rash decisions! [eek]

Don't think I'll be rushing out to grab a TXS either.

I do want to try one of the brushless motor ETS sanders ... annoying that they didn't do anything clever with a variable orbit. Had they made it variable I wouldn't have hesitated. Swapping out 150/3 & 150/5 for brushless equivalents isn't cheap.

I stepped away from getting the Vecturo, but I can see myself stepping back shortly.




Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #208 on: May 21, 2015, 06:27 AM »
Just registered for the July training session.  Anyone else?

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #209 on: May 21, 2015, 06:41 AM »
Haven't seen anything about it, Is it being held in Melbourne?

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #210 on: May 21, 2015, 06:45 AM »
Yes, at Festool in Dandy. I got an email about it.. Perhaps due to attending the product demos? Perhaps due to blowing all of my cash on their goodies this year?

Offline Bohdan

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #211 on: May 21, 2015, 07:02 AM »
@benwheeler

See you there.

Offline Mr_Mod

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #212 on: May 21, 2015, 07:26 AM »
We blow all our spare cash on their products and now they wish for us to spend $250 to do the training.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #213 on: May 21, 2015, 08:10 AM »
We blow all our spare cash on their products and now they wish for us to spend $250 to do the training.

Tea and biscuits are very expensive ... [smile]

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #214 on: May 21, 2015, 08:28 AM »


Well I didn't get an invitation.

Do you think it might be due to my recent critical comments both here and on their Facebook page?  [big grin] [big grin] [smile]

Is this workshop at Festoo HQ or The Tool House and what is it offering? There is no obvious link on Facebook or Web page that I could see.

@benwheeler  @Bohdan
« Last Edit: May 21, 2015, 08:43 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #215 on: May 21, 2015, 08:53 AM »
Nah, I didn't get one either and I'm on their mailing list too, probably just down to a lack of co ordination

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #216 on: May 21, 2015, 02:23 PM »
@Bohdan great!

You didn't hear it from me, but you could always try Googling "Festool training Melbourne" and see what pops up  [eek]

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #217 on: May 21, 2015, 07:17 PM »
Well guess what email arrived at 2.44am this morning? Could these emails be coming from Germany?

Looks to be a great two days, but regretfully I can not attend due to work commitments. I note that there is another one in NSW in September.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2015, 07:55 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Michael1960

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #218 on: May 22, 2015, 04:45 AM »
We blow all our spare cash on their products and now they wish for us to spend $250 to do the training.

Tea and biscuits are very expensive ... [smile]
Are you sure tea and biscuits are in the 'scope of delivery'.  [wink]
If the training is high standard and I learnt some new skills I'd go along with the fee.  If not, I'd be a 'ticked' off.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Vecturo competition.
« Reply #219 on: June 01, 2015, 10:12 AM »
Festool Australia have announced a June Competition with a Vecturo as the prize.

Research a few facts about this tool at -
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/563010/SubProducts/F28404

 - then enter the competition using the Facebook Link -
https://www.facebook.com/festoolaustralia


Edit: there appears to be a problem with the entry form. It asks for statement at a maximum of 50 words. When I entered 37 words, a warning appeared inferring I had exceed 50 Characters!  [eek] I have left a comment on their Facebook page.

See if you have this problem fellow Ausies and please report here your experience.

@Kev @Michael1960 @Bohdan @DB10 @benwheeler
@Linbro
« Last Edit: June 01, 2015, 07:26 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #220 on: June 01, 2015, 08:15 PM »

This morning [AEST] I successfully entered the competition following the links from the Festool Australia web page, rather than the Facebook link.  [smile]
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #221 on: June 01, 2015, 08:22 PM »
Thanks for the info & good luck with the comp,

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Survey Comp Result? Anyone?
« Reply #222 on: June 08, 2015, 09:53 PM »


Has any Aussie Fogger received good news regarding the Survey Competition that concluded at the end of May?
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #223 on: June 09, 2015, 04:38 PM »
I don't think they've contacted the winner yet - there's nothing in my inbox. I even checked the spam folder!

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #224 on: June 09, 2015, 06:32 PM »
I feel my lot in life is to be statistical fodder for games of chance [sad]


Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #225 on: June 09, 2015, 06:34 PM »
I suppose that, statistically, that must be true for most of us!

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #226 on: June 09, 2015, 06:56 PM »
Do not give up Kev and Ben.

Through working for a Hardware Franchise Store/TY,  I have been told that competitions generate far more publicity than actual entries.

@Kev  @benwheeler
« Last Edit: June 09, 2015, 07:16 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #227 on: June 09, 2015, 08:56 PM »
Do not give up Kev and Ben.

Through working for a Hardware Franchise Store/TY,  I have been told that competitions generate far more publicity than actual entries.

@Kev  @benwheeler

That can be true ... Depends a lot on the prize and the audience. Something like this would generate <1000 entry magnitude I'd guess a but certainly >100.

Offline Linbro

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #228 on: June 10, 2015, 12:01 AM »
While I'm in the Aussie area, I'd thought I'd ask - does anyone have any classic systainers, in good condition, they'd like to swap for t-locs? I've got mainly sys-2 & 3 to swap, looking for anything classic.
Lincoln.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #229 on: June 10, 2015, 11:40 AM »
While I'm in the Aussie area, I'd thought I'd ask - does anyone have any classic systainers, in good condition, they'd like to swap for t-locs? I've got mainly sys-2 & 3 to swap, looking for anything classic.
Lincoln.

I have some, but I'm in Sydney. That'd be a costly up and down I'd guess!

Offline boost13

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #230 on: June 10, 2015, 11:31 PM »
I have heaps of sys1 & sys2 and a couple of sys 4 classics. Would be happy to send to you


While I'm in the Aussie area, I'd thought I'd ask - does anyone have any classic systainers, in good condition, they'd like to swap for t-locs? I've got mainly sys-2 & 3 to swap, looking for anything classic.
Lincoln.

I have some, but I'm in Sydney. That'd be a costly up and down I'd guess!
Too much festool.......
TS55 OF1010 OF1400 DF500 Domino
RO90 RO150 ETS150/3
T15 TI15 T12 CSX(x2)
Carvex PS400 Kapex120
Syslite Vac-sys ......... sure theres more i have forgotten!
MFT3 (x2) CS50
CT MIDI & CT36 (x2)

Offline Aquila

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #231 on: June 11, 2015, 06:53 AM »
I have a bunch of 1's, some 2's and 3's & a couple of 4's but I'm in Brisbane - same comment as Kev re freight.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...Survey Competition winner
« Reply #232 on: June 15, 2015, 09:26 AM »

Re Survey Comp.
Congratulations to Jack from Geelong.
Do not know if you are a FOG member.

http://blog.festool.com.au

We can now officially give up Kev and Ben.  [big grin]
He chose the obvious great prize, but I was holding out for a PDC 18. However, if the new HKC had been released here, it would have been that. Oh well, Vecturo anyone!?  [smile]

@Kev  @benwheeler
« Last Edit: June 15, 2015, 09:37 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...Survey Competition winner
« Reply #233 on: June 15, 2015, 10:36 AM »

Re Survey Comp.
Congratulations to Jack from Geelong.
Do not know if you are a FOG member.

http://blog.festool.com.au

We can now officially give up Kev and Ben.  [big grin]
He chose the obvious great prize, but I was holding out for a PDC 18. However, if the new HKC had been released here, it would have been that. Oh well, Vecturo anyone!?  [smile]

@Kev  @benwheeler

Hmmm .. does anyone notice a family resemblance ..

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #234 on: June 15, 2015, 02:39 PM »

Re Survey Comp.
Congratulations to Jack from Geelong.
Do not know if you are a FOG member.

http://blog.festool.com.au

We can now officially give up Kev and Ben.  [big grin]
He chose the obvious great prize, but I was holding out for a PDC 18. However, if the new HKC had been released here, it would have been that. Oh well, Vecturo anyone!?  [smile]

@Kev  @benwheeler
Oh well - I can wait for the grand prize of a complete set of drills and sanders :-D

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #235 on: June 15, 2015, 07:28 PM »

Re Survey Comp.
Congratulations to Jack from Geelong.
Do not know if you are a FOG member.

http://blog.festool.com.au

We can now officially give up Kev and Ben.  [big grin]
He chose the obvious great prize, but I was holding out for a PDC 18. However, if the new HKC had been released here, it would have been that. Oh well, Vecturo anyone!?  [smile]

@Kev  @benwheeler
Oh well - I can wait for the grand prize of a complete set of drills and sanders :-D

You'll probably be living your next life as a dolphin by then !

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #236 on: June 17, 2015, 04:19 AM »
I've discovered a cunning plan that Total Tools has come up with for having an EOFYS under the new regime:
1) Announce a grand sale, complete with radio advertisements mentioning Festool
2) Put lots of SALE signs against Festool items on the website, but keep prices the same
2) Profit...?

Offline Jim Carroll

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #237 on: June 17, 2015, 05:50 AM »
I use Ideal Tools in Melbourne for all my festool purchases, always get back to you quickly on any inquirys and delivery is usually 2-3 days.

I ordered an MFT on Sunday night and had in my shop on tuesday morning.

Crabatec are only brand collectors supplying only parts of the range from any brand of tools, if you want something from the brand they have and not listed can take up to 6 months or more to get in so easier to order direct from that supplier.

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #238 on: June 17, 2015, 07:14 AM »
I use Ideal Tools in Melbourne for all my festool purchases, always get back to you quickly on any inquirys and delivery is usually 2-3 days.

I ordered an MFT on Sunday night and had in my shop on tuesday morning.

Crabatec are only brand collectors supplying only parts of the range from any brand of tools, if you want something from the brand they have and not listed can take up to 6 months or more to get in so easier to order direct from that supplier.

My local - Northern Abrasives is great for phone and in store service, but their website is STILL a work in progress. [sad]

Offline Michael1960

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #239 on: June 17, 2015, 09:08 AM »
 I called Northern Abrasives yesterday about sanding discs for my
Metabo sander - (been waiting on spare parts for my Rotex 90 for 2 weeks!).  As soon as I explained it was the 80mm size the response was 'that's for the SXE400'.  And they have stock... Good knowledgeable people at Northern Abrasives.

Offline Linbro

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #240 on: June 17, 2015, 06:24 PM »
I bought a Virutex edge lipping planer from them last year, over the phone, and their service was fantastic. Arrived in Melbourne two days later.

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #241 on: June 17, 2015, 06:28 PM »
Has anyone been tempted to splurge with the $20k instant write-off? Only time you'll get around 1/3 of Festool any time soon..

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #242 on: June 17, 2015, 06:42 PM »
Has anyone been tempted to splurge with the $20k instant write-off? Only time you'll get around 1/3 of Festool any time soon..

It speeds your depreciation ... :)

If I was Festool, Felder, etc I would have hooked up with an interest free (or low) finance company and gone crazy with a promo campaign.

I'd drop $20K right now on Hammer gear if I had physical space [sad]

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies..Festool Aprons Available.
« Reply #243 on: July 07, 2015, 01:27 AM »
Festool  Aprons

Personally I do not like wearing aprons or carpenters belts and bags. However I realise these can be important gear for some.

So whilst doing my weekly check if the Festool Aus website I noted that the Festool Aprons are available in Aus for a limited time.

See-
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/F28375
« Last Edit: July 07, 2015, 01:31 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies..Festool Aprons Available.
« Reply #244 on: July 07, 2015, 10:39 AM »
Festool  Aprons

Personally I do not like wearing aprons or carpenters belts and bags. However I realise these can be important gear for some.

So whilst doing my weekly check if the Festool Aus website I noted that the Festool Aprons are available in Aus for a limited time.

See-
http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/F28375

Kinda seems a shame if you don't have the rest of the ensemble (leather shorts, long socks and feathered hat) [wink] [big grin]

Offline Bohdan

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #245 on: July 07, 2015, 10:48 AM »
Got an email from Festool inviting me to a Sydney based training program:-

"Please note places are limited to 10 people per session to ensure maximum value for participants. Registrations are first in first served.
Further sessions will be scheduled - dates to be confirmed

The Sydney training session will be held at Parramatta District Men's Shed, 1 Fleet Street, North Parramatta on Friday 4th September and Saturday 5th September"

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #246 on: July 07, 2015, 10:50 AM »
Got an email from Festool inviting me to a Sydney based training program:-

"Please note places are limited to 10 people per session to ensure maximum value for participants. Registrations are first in first served.
Further sessions will be scheduled - dates to be confirmed

The Sydney training session will be held at Parramatta District Men's Shed, 1 Fleet Street, North Parramatta on Friday 4th September and Saturday 5th September"

Didn't get an invite [mad] [sad]


Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #247 on: July 07, 2015, 10:59 AM »
Got an email from Festool inviting me to a Sydney based training program:-

"Please note places are limited to 10 people per session to ensure maximum value for participants. Registrations are first in first served.
Further sessions will be scheduled - dates to be confirmed

The Sydney training session will be held at Parramatta District Men's Shed, 1 Fleet Street, North Parramatta on Friday 4th September and Saturday 5th September"

Didn't get an invite [mad] [sad]

Interesting! I did Kev.
Perhaps they have mixed up their Melb and Sydney email lists!  [eek]

@Kev
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #248 on: July 07, 2015, 11:15 AM »
Got an email from Festool inviting me to a Sydney based training program:-

"Please note places are limited to 10 people per session to ensure maximum value for participants. Registrations are first in first served.
Further sessions will be scheduled - dates to be confirmed

The Sydney training session will be held at Parramatta District Men's Shed, 1 Fleet Street, North Parramatta on Friday 4th September and Saturday 5th September"

Didn't get an invite [mad] [sad]

Interesting! I did Kev.
Perhaps they have mixed up their Melb and Sydney email lists!  [eek]

@Kev

Probably lost in the same corner of their warehouse as the 5.2Ah batteries.

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #249 on: July 07, 2015, 01:15 PM »

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #250 on: July 07, 2015, 01:49 PM »
Festool Sydney Training

Never knew how search worked on the internet thingy [wink] [big grin]

At least they're not charging a crazy amount of money for this .. hopefully some people will get value out of it.

It'll be interesting to see if they develop a positive reputation for actual training. An extended tool feature demonstration to entice buying won't cut it, it'll have to deliver techniques that really improve proficiency.


Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #251 on: July 07, 2015, 02:48 PM »
Yep, Melbourne training's this Fri/Sat - looking forward to finding out why those from the old country rave about it!

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...Festool training
« Reply #252 on: July 10, 2015, 08:19 AM »
Yep, Melbourne training's this Fri/Sat - looking forward to finding out why those from the old country rave about it!

So Ben and Bohdan, who is who!?

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1653882294825390&id=1443009462579342

@Bohdan  @benwheeler
« Last Edit: July 10, 2015, 08:23 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...Festool training
« Reply #253 on: July 10, 2015, 08:38 AM »
Yep, Melbourne training's this Fri/Sat - looking forward to finding out why those from the old country rave about it!

So Ben and Bohdan, who is who!?

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1653882294825390&id=1443009462579342

Oh dear!  [eek]

I'm the young whipper-snapper with no eyeballs; @Bohdan is the extra-tall bearded gentleman.

It's been quite interesting so far - I think the main stuff I want to know about is coming tomorrow.    Don't ask me how many $$$$ I've already mentally spent today though!!

@Bohdan  @benwheeler

Offline Bohdan

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #254 on: July 11, 2015, 07:09 AM »
Festool Sydney Training

Never knew how search worked on the internet thingy [wink] [big grin]

At least they're not charging a crazy amount of money for this .. hopefully some people will get value out of it.

It'll be interesting to see if they develop a positive reputation for actual training. An extended tool feature demonstration to entice buying won't cut it, it'll have to deliver techniques that really improve proficiency.

The Melbourne session was in fact an extended tool demo that was extremely comprehensive and included comparisons between various models, highlighting the intended application differences. We were introduced to some tools and applications that we didn't even know existed and even though we went over time there are still some things that weren't covered.

Some of the participants discovered features on, and application techniques for, tools that they already owned and used.

Most regular readers of the FOG probably already know about most of the tools but it is good to actually see and handle the tools, to have them explained and all of your questions answered. Some of the most interesting information was about all of the accessories that could be used with each tool.

The session was an extremely broad coverage of what's available from Festool, you were able to see and handle or try items that you would rarely find at most dealers.

They are planning more specific sessions which will be more hands on application later but for now I would recommend the Sydney session if you wish to learn what Festool is all about.


Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...anyone win the Vecturo yet?/workshop?
« Reply #255 on: July 13, 2015, 08:25 PM »
Re Vecturo Comp -
Anyone received the good news yet?

Re the workshop in Melb
Did you get anything to take home?

@Bohdan  @benwheeler
« Last Edit: July 13, 2015, 08:32 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #256 on: July 13, 2015, 08:43 PM »

Re Vecturo Comp -
Anyone received the good news yet?

Re the workshop in Melb
Did you get anything to take home?

@Bohdan  @benwheeler
Would you believe.. Cap, coffee cup and ruler? I'll be able to open a shop for those 3 items soon!
Note to self: you've been to too many Festool events recently.
Anyway, my ruler's coming in very handy today :-D

Offline Bohdan

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #257 on: July 13, 2015, 09:06 PM »
@benwheeler you forgot the pencil.

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #258 on: July 13, 2015, 09:10 PM »
Oh yes. And was I supposed to end up with the Festool pen?

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #259 on: July 13, 2015, 09:15 PM »

Re Vecturo Comp -
Anyone received the good news yet?

Re the workshop in Melb
Did you get anything to take home?

@Bohdan  @benwheeler
Would you believe.. Cap, coffee cup and ruler? I'll be able to open a shop for those 3 items soon!
Note to self: you've been to too many Festool events recently.
Anyway, my ruler's coming in very handy today :-D

Yes I would!  [smile]
They could have had a door prize, not a Kapex but say a CXS.

Anyway do not dismiss those rulers, they are great for measuring up sheet goods.

@Bohdan  @benwheeler
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #260 on: July 13, 2015, 09:19 PM »
Any word at the Melbourne workshop on when we are likely to see the 5.2 batteries or the release of the C18 down here anytime soon?

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #261 on: July 13, 2015, 09:22 PM »


Re Vecturo Comp -
Anyone received the good news yet?

Re the workshop in Melb
Did you get anything to take home?

@Bohdan  @benwheeler
Would you believe.. Cap, coffee cup and ruler? I'll be able to open a shop for those 3 items soon!
Note to self: you've been to too many Festool events recently.
Anyway, my ruler's coming in very handy today :-D

Yes I would!  [smile]
They could have had a door prize, not a Kapex but say a CXS.

Anyway do not dismiss those rulers, they are great for measuring up sheet goods.

@Bohdan  @benwheeler

Yep!

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #262 on: July 13, 2015, 09:28 PM »
No need to give away a CXS when they can just show me one and then I have to buy it (as I did yesterday)!

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Non structural ply
« Reply #263 on: July 13, 2015, 10:15 PM »
Ben, re that ply - is it that Brazilian/Australian 12mm or 17mm non structural ply that is being sold by Home and Bunnings?

As I both sell and use it, just be aware that the top layers can vary up to 1mm sheet to sheet. Recently I picked through the top twelve sheets of a 17mm stack to find 4 sheets I was happy with. I suppose I have that luxury as I work there, but if you are using this product regularly and want to sand it, try and have a good look at the sheets you select. [Or find a sales assistant that is as helpfull as me!  [big grin] ]

After patching a cut length of 17mm with Selleys Trim Filler yesterday, just now I sanded it and painted an undercoat with brush and roller. Reasonable result so far; but will see as top coats proceed using my version of Festool Blue/Black.

@benwheeler
« Last Edit: July 14, 2015, 05:19 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #264 on: July 13, 2015, 10:19 PM »
It certainly is, and thanks for your concern! It's just for a rough job at work, as opposed to the nice precision stuff I do at home that requires green tools :-)

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Sales Opportunity!
« Reply #265 on: July 14, 2015, 05:16 AM »

If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #266 on: July 17, 2015, 02:38 AM »
Anyone tried the new Carbatec website yet? Much sexier..  Also, there's a 10% off promo til the end of the month. So if, unlike me, you haven't completely blown your budget on Sawstops and Festools, some discounted Veritas gear could be yours!

Perhaps I could stretch the budget to a few Bessey clamps..

Ps sorry for my dimwittedness - didn't get the Peppa pig reference [emoji22]

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #267 on: July 17, 2015, 04:38 AM »
Anyone tried the new Carbatec website yet? Much sexier..  Also, there's a 10% off promo til the end of the month. So if, unlike me, you haven't completely blown your budget on Sawstops and Festools, some discounted Veritas gear could be yours!

Perhaps I could stretch the budget to a few Bessey clamps..

Ps sorry for my dimwittedness - didn't get the Peppa pig reference [emoji22]

About time ... their site was bad for the 90's !!

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #268 on: July 17, 2015, 06:09 AM »
I think there whole business was stuck in the 90's. Stepping inside there shop was like going back in time apart from the prices.
 If you phone them up then you have to go through a call center when all you want to do is speak to the local store. And trying to search the old website was pure torture.
  This new much improved website must have cost them a dollar or two to set up, as there won't be any specials in store for a few months now.

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One for the Aussies...
« Reply #269 on: July 17, 2015, 06:17 AM »
My main gripe (apart from the shocking quality of their home brand stuff) is that they never seem to have stock of what I want. I wanted to buy a Sawstop before the EOFY, and since they had no stock I went to Gabbet Machinery who managed to deliver one from Sydney for less than it would cost from the locals. Sold!

I must add though, that I appreciate that they have quite a large range of items on the shelf - I suppose that their focus would be hobbyists, which is not necessarily a red-hot market, and they'd have to keep stock levels under control. Still - keep the stuff I want in stock please!
« Last Edit: July 17, 2015, 06:23 AM by benwheeler »

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #270 on: July 17, 2015, 07:39 AM »
Anyone tried the new Carbatec website yet? Much sexier.. 

Ps sorry for my dimwittedness - didn't get the Peppa pig reference [emoji22]

Ben
Jigsaw as in JigSaw Puzzle! ABC Kids television programming. Oh well if you still don't get it, let's move on. [smile]



Ben, Kev and DB10
Re the new 'Sexy' Carbatec website. A change yes but I think the old Menu was far more comprehensive and functional.

Re Festool Vecturo Comp, anyone heard anything?

@benwheeler @Kev  @DB10
« Last Edit: July 17, 2015, 08:16 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Bohdan

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #271 on: July 17, 2015, 07:58 AM »
Tried to use their new website to take advantage of their introductory 10% discount to buy something that I saw on the shelf last time I was there. Not able to find it on their website.

Tried to buy a router trimming cutter listed as 19mm dia. 25mm long but the specification on the cutter's page says 25mm dia. 19mm long and doesn't list the shaft diameter. Rang their helpline, girl didn't know answer said she would have to pass me on to someone else, after being on hold for 7 minutes gave up.

So it looks like the website might be new but business is as before - bloody hopeless.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #272 on: July 17, 2015, 08:00 AM »
Anyone tried the new Carbatec website yet? Much sexier.. 

Ps sorry for my dimwittedness - didn't get the Peppa pig reference [emoji22]

Ben
Jigsaw as in JigSaw Puzzle! ABC Kids television programming. Oh well if you still don't get it, let's move on. [smile]

Ben, Kev and DB10
Re the new 'Sexy' Carbatec website. A change yes but I think the old Menu was far more comprehensive and functional.

Re Festool Vecturo Comp, anyone heard anything?

@benwheeler @Kev  @DB10

Nope ... I'm beginning to thing the actual workings of a "promotional giveaway" is beyond their ability to comprehend !!

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #273 on: July 17, 2015, 08:15 AM »

Ben
Jigsaw as in JigSaw Puzzle! ABC Kids television programming. Oh well if you still don't get it, let's move on. [smile]

Ben, Kev and DB10
Re the new 'Sexy' Carbatec website. A change yes but I think the old Menu was far more comprehensive and functional.

Re Festool Vecturo Comp, anyone heard anything?

@benwheeler @Kev  @DB10

Oh man, I think I've been spending too much time thinking about power tools..  I'm certainly very familiar with Peppa Pig (having a 2-year-old), but when I read "jigsaw" I didn't even think about a jigsaw puzzle!

No, they haven't contacted me about my Vecturo yet.. It's weird, because I was there last weekend!

Offline Aquila

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #274 on: July 18, 2015, 01:27 AM »
As Bohdan said - bloody hopeless!

On the new website, the search function is as useless as  on their old website!

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #275 on: July 18, 2015, 01:40 AM »
Interesting that this thread started in April 2014 discussing the 'limits' of Carbatec's Customer Experience  [eek] and here we are again discussing these limitations over one year later!

Fortunately there has been great and fascinating reading in between!   [smile]
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #276 on: July 18, 2015, 01:42 AM »
It appears that some of the people that work on their telephone help desk rely on their 2010 paper catalogue because it is more up to date than their websites. I wanted a 1/4" shaft trimming cutter and it wasn't available on their website but when they found the part number in the old catalogue it was in stock. Their term "coming soon" means "out of stock" but they can't give you an ETA.

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #277 on: July 18, 2015, 04:56 AM »
Interesting that this thread started in April 2014 discussing the 'limits' of Carbatec's Customer Experience  [eek] and here we are again discussing these limitations over one year later!

Fortunately there has been great and fascinating reading in between!   [smile]

Must have something to do with what comes around goes around! Unfortunately for Carbatec, nothing changes apart from the prices!

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #278 on: July 18, 2015, 05:28 AM »
Obviously from this Festool Blog, he is an excellent woodworker, but it is certainly interesting, given the current discussion here on the FOG, as to who [he claims]  introduced him to Festool.

 http://blog.festool.com.au/general-information/customer-focus-duncan-villet/

@DB10 @Bohdan @Aquila @benwheeler  @Kev

If those in NA are wondering what this is all about, imagine LeeValley got it all wrong - big time!  [eek] [eek]
« Last Edit: July 18, 2015, 05:38 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Vecturo Comp!!
« Reply #279 on: July 21, 2015, 03:05 AM »

Ps sorry for my dimwittedness - . . .

Nope ... I'm beginning to thing the actual workings of a "promotional giveaway" is beyond their ability to comprehend !!

Twenty one days and still no announcement of the Vecturo Comp Winner.

Perhaps, given the out of context quote above, Ben is the winner! Just, he does not realise it, yet!  [eek] [big grin]
@benwheeler  @Kev
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #280 on: July 21, 2015, 03:05 AM »
DERRRR...

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies... Vecturo Comp!!
« Reply #281 on: July 21, 2015, 03:30 AM »

Ps sorry for my dimwittedness - . . .

Nope ... I'm beginning to thing the actual workings of a "promotional giveaway" is beyond their ability to comprehend !!

Twenty one days and still no announcement of the Vecturo Comp Winner.

Perhaps, given the out of context quote above, Ben is the winner! Just, he does not realise it, yet!  [eek] [big grin]
@benwheeler  @Kev

Someone parked a car in his driveway a year ago .. and to add to the insult a strange company called the RTA is asking him to pay for its registration [eek]

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #282 on: July 21, 2015, 03:33 AM »
There's no RTA in Victoria mate! Funny you should say that though - we moved house around a year ago, and my spare car lay dormant for a year until I needed it recently..
Where are you hiding? What's going on here?!



(And where's my Vecturo?)

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #283 on: July 21, 2015, 03:46 AM »
There's no RTA in Victoria mate! Funny you should say that though - we moved house around a year ago, and my spare car lay dormant for a year until I needed it recently..
Where are you hiding? What's going on here?!



(And where's my Vecturo?)

What part of hiding don't you understand? [big grin]

I'm actually planning a stealthy intercept of the free Vecturo.

Offline benwheeler

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #284 on: July 21, 2015, 03:47 AM »
Well, so long as you just take the Vecturo and don't notice anything that's in the garage- I'll probably have to take that as a win!

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Ben, Nick has it!
« Reply #285 on: July 22, 2015, 03:48 AM »
(And where's my Vecturo?)

Apparently Ben, Nick has it!  [eek]

Congratulations Nick. I trust they also shouted you some yogurt.  [smile]
http://blog.festool.com.au/general-information/vecturo-competition-winner/
-----------
Kev
I note he is from NSW.
Probably one of the Northern Beaches Festool Bretherin.  [big grin]

@benwheeler  @Kev
« Last Edit: July 22, 2015, 04:01 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies... Ben, Nick has it!
« Reply #286 on: July 22, 2015, 05:29 AM »
(And where's my Vecturo?)

Apparently Ben, Nick has it!  [eek]

Congratulations Nick. I trust they also shouted you some yogurt.  [smile]
http://blog.festool.com.au/general-information/vecturo-competition-winner/
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Kev
I note he is from NSW.
Probably one of the Northern Beaches Festool Bretherin.  [big grin]

@benwheeler  @Kev

Stuff it! [mad] [sad] [crying]

I've been holding back all this time, waiting to see if by some incredible chance I'd win one. Now I'll just have to go and buy one on the rotten things ...

Haven't seen Nick at any of the gatherings ... I get the impression his wife wears the Festool apron! [wink]

Offline Untidy Shop

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« Last Edit: August 01, 2015, 03:09 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Ben, Nick has it!
« Reply #288 on: August 01, 2015, 03:15 AM »
(And where's my Vecturo?)

-----------
Kev
I note he is from NSW.
Probably one of the Northern Beaches Festool Bretherin.  [big grin]
@benwheeler  @Kev
... I get the impression his wife wears the Festool apron! [wink]

 Wouldn't that be nice!
[Ie as regards allowing purchases!]
@Kev
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies... Ben, Nick has it!
« Reply #289 on: August 01, 2015, 03:51 AM »
(And where's my Vecturo?)

-----------
Kev
I note he is from NSW.
Probably one of the Northern Beaches Festool Bretherin.  [big grin]
@benwheeler  @Kev
... I get the impression his wife wears the Festool apron! [wink]

 Wouldn't that be nice!
[Ie as regards allowing purchases!]
@Kev

My better half it pushing me to go and buy a bunch of 36V Stihl gardening gear as I type this .. she wants the pole pruner, blower, hedger and is contemplating the mower. I'll probably draw the line at the mower, but if I instead add an electric chain saw and brush cutter (the chain saw on the pole pruner isn't that big) I can refresh a load of gear that's old (not really), in need of service (not really), boring and noisy (yah, got it).

But !!! I suppose I am curious about the mower. It you stay on  top of the garden and keep it "manicured" it's probably a good choice.

To be clear, this is for a suburban lot - I have no delusion about what's needed for a real plot of dirt!! [wink]

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... powering Kev's Garden!
« Reply #290 on: August 01, 2015, 07:36 AM »
(And where's my Vecturo?)

-----------
Kev
I note he is from NSW.
Probably one of the Northern Beaches Festool Bretherin.  [big grin]
@benwheeler  @Kev
... I get the impression his wife wears the Festool apron! [wink]

 Wouldn't that be nice!
[Ie as regards allowing purchases!]
@Kev

My better half it pushing me to go and buy a bunch of 36V Stihl gardening gear as I type this .. she wants the pole pruner, blower, hedger and is contemplating the mower. I'll probably draw the line at the mower, but if I instead add an electric chain saw and brush cutter (the chain saw on the pole pruner isn't that big) I can refresh a load of gear that's old (not really), in need of service (not really), boring and noisy (yah, got it).

But !!! I suppose I am curious about the mower. It you stay on  top of the garden and keep it "manicured" it's probably a good choice.

To be clear, this is for a suburban lot - I have no delusion about what's needed for a real plot of dirt!! [wink]

Do not underestimate that mower as you have only a suburban allotment.

@Kev
« Last Edit: August 01, 2015, 07:56 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies... powering Kev's Garden!
« Reply #291 on: August 01, 2015, 04:40 PM »

Do not underestimate that mower as you have only a suburban allotment.


The Viking robotic would be much more fun though [big grin]

Offline Scottan

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #292 on: August 03, 2015, 10:10 PM »
Hi all, long time lurker here! Since the price fixing business came in I've refused to buy any new gear at full price. Hence its been a dry few months. Just wondering if anyone has heard any whispers of upcoming promos? I thought the last was a little underwhelming so had my fingers crossed for another  starting this month. This is looking more and more unlikely... Thanks :)

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Welcome Scottan
« Reply #293 on: August 03, 2015, 11:26 PM »

Welcome Scottan.
Where are you living in area - Nth, Sth, East, West?
Looking fwd to seeing some of your projects here.
--------


Yes certainly there appears to be no new promotions yet for Aug, Sept, October.  Up until the price fixing we got new product soon after UK, and certainly well before NA.

Just as well they distribute very good tools, because the customer service cracks are now starting to appear. Read recent posts on this thread re - fixed pricing and apparently some tightening of dealer margins through direct internet sales, lack of/delayed promotions (but to be fair there have been more competitions), no true specials (apart from the Kapex going down in price, but not to previous discounting price, at introduction of price fixing), delayed release of new product and repair delays.

@Scottan  @Kev 
« Last Edit: August 04, 2015, 03:14 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #294 on: August 03, 2015, 11:57 PM »
[Welcome] Scottan.

It's amazing how some businesses seem to be failure proof as long as you apply common sense.

... about here we're likely to get examples of how uncommon "common sense" really is !

Offline mike68au

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #295 on: August 04, 2015, 07:40 AM »
There will be a new Catalogue released shortly ( I was given one today from my rep ) which will run till the end of October.

Looking over it there a Bonus batteries with Cordless tools (4.2Ah )
There are also Bonus Limited Edition 90 year systainers in Blue with select tools ( Actually a lot of corded tools )

Pricing seems to retail as expected

There is also the new Cordless Circular Saw. HKC 55 and C18

I have a demo of of the HKC 55  for the next few days, ( helping the local rep at a Tool show this weekend so i get to play early )  and after a quick play with it today I'm very impressed.  It really takes the Circular saw to a new level.   

I believe we it will be available in September along with the C18
« Last Edit: August 04, 2015, 07:42 AM by mike68au »

Offline DB10

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #296 on: August 04, 2015, 07:41 AM »
Greetings Scottan,
  I Was just thinking the other day that since the price fixing has come in I don't think I've made any Festool purchases other than a few consumables.
 This hasn't been a conscious decision of mine as there will always be a wish list but there just isn't any urgency at the moment.
Maybe a good promotion might make me more proactive with the spending.
 I'm guessing since there hasn't been any promotions for a while, that price fixing hasn't really effected Festool sales.

Offline Scottan

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Re: One for the Aussies... Welcome Scottan
« Reply #297 on: August 04, 2015, 07:54 AM »
Thanks for the welcome all :). Also thanks Mike for the info (glad we should be seeing something soon)

Welcome Scottan.
Where are you living in area - Nth, Sth, East, West?

Currently in Hervey Bay QLD, moved up not long ago from the Sunshine Coast.

- Scott

Offline mike68au

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #298 on: August 04, 2015, 07:57 AM »
Yes welcome Scottan....  Kinda skipped saying that. 

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...another Aussie Playing.
« Reply #299 on: August 04, 2015, 08:02 AM »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Offline TheTassieBFG

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #301 on: August 04, 2015, 11:07 AM »
in regards to pipe dream
1. wouldn't want to run out of fuel, ease up on th throttle too much or wipe out (not too mention run over more traditional surfers)
2. would like to see this in the next Bond/Croft/other mindless action film

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #302 on: August 04, 2015, 05:56 PM »
The prospect of something like this from a high performance paddle wheel and hydrofoil engineering perspective would be amazing.

Really curios now!

Offline Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #303 on: August 05, 2015, 08:11 AM »
Well Festool Australia, the new stuff is out ... you've taken your low to an even lower low [mad]

New HKC, but with OLD 4.2Ah batteries.

Has severe brain damage hit certain parts of Victoria or something?? Why would expect anyone half savvy to buy high drain equipment bundled with the old batteries.

In prior years I've spent between $20K and $30+K on Festool and have been happy despite the price premium we pay here. So far this year I've spent ZERO and I'm not seeing much to entice me to do otherwise.

This is both stupid and insulting on the part of Festool Australia.

There's still quite a few big ticket Festools I'd like to acquire, but I DO NOT like to be treated like a sucker and that's the way the Australian Festool customers seem to be treated right now.

I've got plenty of 18V's and I can obviously buy skins, but this behaviour polarises my opinion and I'm extremely stubborn.

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME !!! [mad]

No doubt Festool Australia is also way too aloof and self absorbed to even bother reading the FOG [wink]

...

My wife and I drink a lot of tea. We like quality and we buy a lot of the T2 stuff. On Monday we got a surprise parcel with over $200 worth of thank you for your business stuff inside. THAT IS HOW YOU TREAT LOYAL CUSTOMERS FESTOOL AUSTRALIA !!! It probably cost T2 very little, but why would I shop anywhere else?

Offline Mike B

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #304 on: August 05, 2015, 08:21 AM »
Yep I agree Kev, that is complete garbage. Must be using the Aus market as a dumping ground for all the leftover 4.2Ah packs.
Oh well, yet another new tool I don't even need to bother looking at.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #305 on: August 05, 2015, 08:35 AM »
Where did you get this info Kev? There is no mention that I could find on their Internet site.

If true, a pathetic decision, and as Mike says, probably made by the German HQ to dump old batts.

I was looking fwd to the release of this tool. Even have some Spring projects lined up where I could use it. What to do, buy a skin and one bat and wait for Festool to come to its senses, or just give it a big miss and continue to use the old but trusty corded DeWalt?!

@Kev  @Mike B
« Last Edit: August 05, 2015, 08:41 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #306 on: August 05, 2015, 08:43 AM »
Yep I agree Kev, that is complete garbage. Must be using the Aus market as a dumping ground for all the leftover 4.2Ah packs.
Oh well, yet another new tool I don't even need to bother looking at.

It wouldn't sting so much if all of the other brands were treating us like poo with the available battery capacities ... but we've had 5's available from companies like Metabo for ages now!

There was a point when I thought it would be a great idea to get into a battery adaptor product space .. initially I thought it would be prohibitive as the number of from brand / to brand combos would be crazy. I then realised that the model could simply involve something where you get two adaptor plates .. "from brand specific to common i/f" and then "to common i/f to brand specific". From there you'd also build a range of batteries that could interface with the "to common i/f" style.

Instead of the adaptors being painful, you'd actually enhance them so that they had some cool stuff such sturdy belt hooks, USB chargers (hate it when your phone goes flat?).




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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #307 on: August 05, 2015, 08:45 AM »
Where did you get this info Kev? There is no mention that I could find on their Internet site.

If true, a pathetic decision, and as Mike says, probably made by the German HQ to dump old batts.

I was looking fwd to the release of this tool. Even have some Spring projects lined up where I could use it. What to do, buy a skin and one bat and wait for Festool to come to its senses, or just give it a big miss and continue to use the old but trusty corded DeWalt?!

@Kev  @Mike B

Sorry, I should have posted the link ...

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564636/SubProducts/564627

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #308 on: August 05, 2015, 09:49 AM »
Where did you get this info Kev? There is no mention that I could find on their Internet site.

If true, a pathetic decision, and as Mike says, probably made by the German HQ to dump old batts.

I was looking fwd to the release of this tool. Even have some Spring projects lined up where I could use it. What to do, buy a skin and one bat and wait for Festool to come to its senses, or just give it a big miss and continue to use the old but trusty corded DeWalt?!

@Kev  @Mike B

Sorry, I should have posted the link ...

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564636/SubProducts/564627

Mmmm! Bonus battery pack for limited time only! Says something!
@Kev @Mike B
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #309 on: August 05, 2015, 08:26 PM »
Underwhelmed doesn't even come close.
  I was lead to beleive that we were supposed to see the release of the new 5.2 batteries whith the release of the New tools! That's what I was told when I enquired about the new batteries some time back.

 I was also told by Festool Aus that with the introduction of price fixing We will start to see some new benifets, so far I've seen nothing.
  It took 5 weeks to get my TSC repaired, I still had to call them to find out what exactly had been repaired once the saw we returned, shouldn't have to do that after a five week wait.
 These repaire time frames, would not be tolerated  In NA or Europe, nor the release of new tools with old batteries, as someone said it's an arrogance at head office that the Ausies will suck it up!

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #310 on: August 05, 2015, 09:54 PM »
While we're expressing ... another thing that gets on my tender bits is the fact that the combo kits and deals are all angled at the first time Festool customer to attract them ... but you are severely disadvantaged if you already have a good cross section of Festool products. It's a bit like the disgusting behavior of banks with credit cards ... come here, get a new account and bring your debt with you for 12 months interest free ... while the long term customers just get a "screw you, pay your 22%".

I've go nothing against offers that attract new business, but it should never be done in a way that simply spits in the face of long term loyal customers.

The list of potential buys for me on the new Festool front could easily amount to an other $30K .. a full Conturo setup, BS105, Planex, CT36L HD to name just a few potentials ... then there's all the new EC ETS's and coming cordless stuff.

As a hobbyist I've obviously invested more in Festool that I need, but it's a passion (woodworking, not Festool) and furnishing the nest with the tools I like is part of the pleasure. My Festool re-seller does go to the effort to make me feel special, but they're limited by the antics of Festool Australia.

 [mad]  [sad]


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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #311 on: August 05, 2015, 10:16 PM »
Well I'm here to add my name to the list of disappointed persons. I really like the brand but I've always needed the little deal sweeteners to justify the exspense. Since the price fixing this has meant the deals would have to be that little bit sweeter. Unfortunately in my opinion we've just seen the opposite.

I've been on the lookout to invest in a line of cordless tools. So I've been holding out to see what festool can offer. Unfortunately for me it just doesn't stack up against the competitors. As much as I'd like to continue buying Festool it is just now beyond the realm of justification for myself.

Scott

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Re: One for the Aussies...latest promotions on line.
« Reply #312 on: August 06, 2015, 02:38 AM »
Latest Promotion Brochure on line.
All generally as speculated in last few days of posts.
http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/Store/Shops/tooltechnic/MediaGallery/promotions/2015-08.pdf

Note C18 price as basic.
It's all 4.2 as bonus packs across the 18V range.



« Last Edit: August 06, 2015, 02:44 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #313 on: August 06, 2015, 06:59 AM »
Yah - a 2.6Ah 18V battery with your old "new" Syslite valued at $101 [eek]

Makes you really want to celebrate 90 years of Festool with Festool Australia. NOT

Honestly, I didn't think they would do anything that would make me feel more insulted ... maybe I'm just so cranky I'm looking for it now!

They're even trying to "bundle" out the old ETS's.

At least we've now been insulted in FULL COLOUR.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #314 on: August 06, 2015, 07:37 AM »
Is Aus still getting the older version of the Syslite?

So the Festool Promotional catalogue is now just a selection of items at full RRP with a Systainer thrown in for set buyers? This has to be some sort of bad joke.

Unless I've missed something, this is worse than the last one...

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #315 on: August 06, 2015, 08:22 AM »
Hi all, long time lurker here! Since the price fixing business came in I've refused to buy any new gear at full price. Hence its been a dry few months. Just wondering if anyone has heard any whispers of upcoming promos? I thought the last was a little underwhelming so had my fingers crossed for another  starting this month. This is looking more and more unlikely... Thanks :)
Welcome Scottan
It looks like I'm heading for a dry 2015 - no new Festool tools so far!  The latest 'promo' is underwhelming. 


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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #316 on: August 06, 2015, 10:51 AM »
More out of disbelief than anything else, I've reread the "promo" brochure.

Freebies are limited to 2.6 and 4.2 batteries, stirrers, 90 year systainers, tape measures, abrasive systainers and the absolute best is a Festool advertising polo shirt "valued at $55" if you buy a CT [eek] no pricing discounts at all.

Don't expect a free abrasive systainer if you're buying a new ETS150 EC and a CT either ... seems the freebie is only for someone buying the old ETS's with a CT.

How are those poor Festool resellers going to cope with the massive surge in demand this promotion is going to cause?

In the past I've NEVER hesitated buying a Festool on promotion if I believed I have a future use for it ... their loss.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #317 on: August 06, 2015, 05:28 PM »
With all the good tools, they have a harder job.
I am sensing that you are no adibing the Koolaid @Kev

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #318 on: August 07, 2015, 12:28 AM »
With all the good tools, they have a harder job.
I am sensing that you are no adibing the Koolaid @Kev

It's not tasting so good of late @Holmz [sad]

I do like the products and my local reseller, but the local sales and distribution is giving me the toms.

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #319 on: August 07, 2015, 02:23 AM »
... but the local sales and distribution is giving me the toms.

toms?
I suppose that it "'toms' you to tears"?


I will probably have to wait a couple of weeks before I can get the domino out again. That recharges my Kool-aid.

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