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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #240 on: January 10, 2017, 12:04 PM »
Clark, Dan,

I would never disparage the usefulness of the MFT's 20 mm dog holes and the numerous clever clamps and gadgets Festool and others, including esteemed members of the FOG have developed.  My point was that the PGS, in providing the ability to replicate an MFT top, among an infinity of other layouts, provides the crucial ability of making the array near perfectly orthogonal, which gives the system its superpowers.  It's this feature that I fear is lost on a small work surface, making the Parf Sticks much of the PGS superfluous and overkill for Dan's instant purpose.

I'm sure this is  merely a case of my wondering too hard.  I'll talk to my barman about it this evening.  [wink]

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #241 on: January 10, 2017, 11:08 PM »
I made another example of a benchtop bench Here

See reply 378 and 379.  I made it by using the MFT as a template and hand-tapped a 20 mm Brad bit to space the holes.  Not perfect, but close enough for a benchtop bench.

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #242 on: January 10, 2017, 11:11 PM »
I made my mft replacement top using the 1400 and the shelf pin system.  TimTool's technique is infinitely clever and is provided in his plans for his Larger workbench.

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #243 on: January 12, 2017, 12:49 AM »
Here's an article in German showing a mini-workbench that uses Festool clamps:  mini-bench. Interesting idea.

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #244 on: January 18, 2017, 12:26 AM »
Just ordered mine today, with the new bit and a set of short and tall parf dogs.  ...

Now I just have to wait for all of the pieces parts to make it across the pond.

They came it today.  FedEx made the delivery.  Everything looked to be in tip top order.

I also ordered a 25mm forstner bit from Lee Valley to compliment the kit.  It will drill holes for the wider diameter of the parf dogs, and it looks like the smaller diameter of the 3mm drill bit bushing.  I was thinking it might help to make that bushing easier to handle if it were inset into a handle.

I may get to try things out this weekend.

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #245 on: January 18, 2017, 11:16 AM »
Just ordered mine today, with the new bit and a set of short and tall parf dogs.  ...

Now I just have to wait for all of the pieces parts to make it across the pond.

They came it today.  FedEx made the delivery.  Everything looked to be in tip top order.

I also ordered a 25mm forstner bit from Lee Valley to compliment the kit.  It will drill holes for the wider diameter of the parf dogs, and it looks like the smaller diameter of the 3mm drill bit bushing.  I was thinking it might help to make that bushing easier to handle if it were inset into a handle.

I may get to try things out this weekend.

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #246 on: January 18, 2017, 11:25 AM »
...and remember to put a spot of oil on the shaft of the 20 mm cutter !

I have a new video coming out in the next 7 days which gives some News and Tips for the PGS and @clark_fork will get a mention too.

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #247 on: January 18, 2017, 04:32 PM »
Peter,

You might want to post in this MPT work table thread: http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-sales-dealer-area/new-mpt-(multi-purpose-top)/ .  The UJK looks like it would be a very useful tool for creating an MPT top.

Regards,

Dan.


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« Reply #248 on: January 19, 2017, 01:16 AM »
Peter,

You might want to post in this MPT work table thread: http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-sales-dealer-area/new-mpt-(multi-purpose-top)/ .  The UJK looks like it would be a very useful tool for creating an MPT top.

Regards,

Dan.

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Hi Dan,

I have had a quick look at that thread and am not sure if I should just wade in there pushing the PGS. I certainly think that Dan Pattison is doing his best to get his design out into the world and it does not look as though he has any method for producing an array of holes as accurate as can be produced with the PGS.

Perhaps if other people bring up the subject of the PGS on that thread then I will join in if there are any questions about it.

As an aside. I made a triangular square out of yellow plastic a while ago using my TS55 on my track saw cutting station produced with the PGS. I asked Axminster to check its squareness as they have a £25k machine that does that sort of thing and I had an email from them earlier this week - it is just 0.018 degrees out.

Peter

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #249 on: January 19, 2017, 05:15 AM »
@Peter Parfitt Let's put this into tractable terms...

Sin(0.018)*600-mm = 0.2-mm over a 600-mm length

Or 0.008" over a 2' length
Or 1/128th " over 2'

Certainly good enough for me.

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #250 on: January 19, 2017, 05:34 AM »
@Holmz

Thank you for explaining the accuracy like that.

I showed the square being made (I actually made a pair) in one of my Workshop Notes videos. I do not normally post links to these videos on the FOG but will in this case as there are several Festool related things in it. At about 7 minutes 55 seconds I show the square being made.

Here is the link:



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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Breaking News - Videos
« Reply #251 on: January 23, 2017, 10:32 AM »
Hi Everyone - especially in North America.......

Breaking News - it is in the video:



Peter
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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #252 on: January 23, 2017, 01:27 PM »
Peter, I've logged onto Lee Valley (USA version) several times and cannot locate Parf Guide System; when searching for this only the Parf Dogs come up.  Obviously it may be too early yet.

Don
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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #253 on: January 23, 2017, 01:38 PM »
Peter, I've logged onto Lee Valley (USA version) several times and cannot locate Parf Guide System; when searching for this only the Parf Dogs come up.  Obviously it may be too early yet.

Don

Hi Don,

Yes, I have seen that. I was warned by Lee Valley that they still had a couple of technical tweaks to do. As the UK time and NA time is so very different I did not want to have to press the go button on the video during my Tempur time ! I am sure that it will be fine very soon. The main thing I felt was to share the good news with everyone in the US and Canada.

I am very excited about this as Lee Valley are a super company to work with and they have made a brilliant job of the Parf Dogs - having the Parf Guide System on their books is good news indeed.

Peter
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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #254 on: January 23, 2017, 02:54 PM »
Thanks Peter, and I do understand it takes time to get "things" put in place.  My enthusiasm for the product led to my impetuous desire to order today!  One can only hope, and one can wait.  Thanks, and please keep up the excellent videos!

Don 
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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #255 on: January 23, 2017, 03:15 PM »
Thanks Peter, and I do understand it takes time to get "things" put in place.  My enthusiasm for the product led to my impetuous desire to order today!  One can only hope, and one can wait.  Thanks, and please keep up the excellent videos!

Don

It takes me back to Christmas when I was much younger - the waiting seemed so awful !

I am sure that you will be able to order something very soon. Good luck when you do and please leave a review (not sure if Lee Valley have that) but if all else fails put something here on the FOG. Honest reviews help people make up their minds.

Cheers.

Peter

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #256 on: January 23, 2017, 05:23 PM »
Just noticed them on the Lee Valley Canada site, then came here to look for more info on it.  I will definitely be picking one up shortly.

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« Reply #257 on: January 26, 2017, 06:44 AM »
Brilliant kit Peter!  I somehow missed this 9 page thread, but stumbled on these by way of an email from lee valley.  After watching your videos I like them that much more! I hope you can work with LV to bring the rail clips and centrotec bit over the pond as well.  Certainly not a deal killer, but it rounds things out.  Well done!!
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« Reply #258 on: January 26, 2017, 09:14 AM »
Brilliant kit Peter!  I somehow missed this 9 page thread, but stumbled on these by way of an email from lee valley.  After watching your videos I like them that much more! I hope you can work with LV to bring the rail clips and centrotec bit over the pond as well.  Certainly not a deal killer, but it rounds things out.  Well done!!

Ditto on the rail clips.

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #259 on: January 26, 2017, 09:52 AM »
Hi @RKA and @HarveyWildes

I am sure that Lee Valley are aware of the product and I know that Axminster are aware of the head of steam that is being generated in North America for both the rail clips and the PGS.

Peter

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #260 on: January 30, 2017, 01:22 PM »
Peter, will replacement forstner bits be made available on the Lee Valley website in the future?
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« Reply #261 on: January 30, 2017, 05:08 PM »
Peter, will replacement forstner bits be made available on the Lee Valley website in the future?

I hope so but it is not my call - it is Axminster and Lee Valley doing the business on this.

Peter

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« Reply #262 on: January 31, 2017, 11:58 AM »
Hi Everyone

I have just heard that Lee Valley have sold out of the Parf Guide System. It sounds very much like the early days when Axminster first started selling them - cautious levels of early stock and larger than expected orders.

Fear not, Axminster have their new Parf Guide System manufacturing facility fully operational and production is running smoothly.

I hear that Axminster may be inviting PGS owners to send in pictures of their efforts - I do not know any detail and will leave that to them to let people know.

In the meantime, I would like to thank PGS owners world-wide for supporting all of this.

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« Reply #263 on: January 31, 2017, 10:28 PM »
Hi Everyone

I was asked about putting intermediate holes midway between a pair of existing holes either on an MFT3 or a custom bench or track saw station that one might have. I have shown two methods of doing this, and both are very easy, in the following Workshop Notes video. One method shows how to do it if one is creating a pattern of holes from scratch and the second method is the case (that I was asked about by Martin) doing it on an MFT3 or where the 20 mm holes were already in place.

Both methods are very accurate.



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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #264 on: February 01, 2017, 12:28 PM »
I'm a big fan of Lee Valley.  But since they do not offer the 20mm Centrotec bit or the rail clips, I ordered the whole kit from Axminster last Wed. 25 Jan.  Arrived in good shape this morning, 1 Feb.  Thanks to Axminster for the fine service.  And thanks to Peter for what appears to be a great design.  Looking forward to playing with it this weekend.

Cheers,
Barney

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« Reply #265 on: February 01, 2017, 02:45 PM »
I'm a big fan of Lee Valley.  But since they do not offer the 20mm Centrotec bit or the rail clips, I ordered the whole kit from Axminster last Wed. 25 Jan.  Arrived in good shape this morning, 1 Feb.  Thanks to Axminster for the fine service.  And thanks to Peter for what appears to be a great design.  Looking forward to playing with it this weekend.

Cheers,
Barney
How much did it come to in USD shipped?
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« Reply #266 on: February 01, 2017, 03:45 PM »
Everything including shipping was 193 pounds which at today's exchange rate should be about US$245 I'm guessing. That's for the PGS plus the extra 20mm Centrotec bit and the rail clips.
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« Reply #267 on: February 01, 2017, 06:47 PM »
Sorry, forgot to mention that I also ordered the large and small Parf dogs (included in the above price).

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Re: UJK Parf Guide System - Videos
« Reply #268 on: February 01, 2017, 08:26 PM »
If you've got a set of parf dogs that were manufactured when they were first released, there may be an issue fitting them into the jig for the PGS.  I'm having trouble with both the short and tall dogs, neither will fit inside the jig, they get stuck halfway.  I do have another set of tall dogs I ordered a year or so ago and those fit inside very tightly.  I'm going to call Lee Valley tomorrow.  I suspect they will just send out a new set of dogs.
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« Reply #269 on: February 02, 2017, 12:51 AM »
If you've got a set of parf dogs that were manufactured when they were first released, there may be an issue fitting them into the jig for the PGS.  I'm having trouble with both the short and tall dogs, neither will fit inside the jig, they get stuck halfway.  I do have another set of tall dogs I ordered a year or so ago and those fit inside very tightly.  I'm going to call Lee Valley tomorrow.  I suspect they will just send out a new set of dogs.

Hi Raj

My Parf Dogs are from that very first batch and you will see them in all of my videos. The fit is certainly snug and if you have a dog inclined slightly it will not pass through the hole. I have alerted Axminster  ( @AxminsterTools ) who should do the checking first.

Peter