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Happy New Year everyone.

So 2017 is starting off with some interesting developments, all of which are to your advantage.  :)

Firstly, Festool are giving away a free 18v battery with most cordless machines, here's the blurb we have just received:

"A new 18V battery campaign for end users will be launching from the 1st January 2017 until the 31st March 2017. The campaign will mean that customers will receive a free 5.2Ah battery when they buy any of the following 18V tool range (excludes basic models):

    Compact (our new 3.1 Ah batteries)
    Plus
    Plus SCA
    Set version

In order to receive the free battery, the customer must:

    Register for SERVICE All-inclusive (dealers can obviously register on behalf of the customer through the usual online system)
    The customer must also register via the promotional page on our website which can be found by searching www.festool.co.uk/18V

The microsite for the 18V battery campaign features a tab at the bottom of the page that says ‘Promotion’, this area can also be found by scrolling down through the www.festool.co.uk/18V microsite.

Once the end customer clicks the promotion tab they are able to complete the required form. Full terms and conditions will be available on the 18V microsite from 1st January 2017."


Festool 18V

This is a great campaign, well done Festool.

Your can order your Festool Cordless machine from us here: http://www.toolfest.co.uk/quick-search?terms=cordless


Secondly, we have a new plan here which we are excited to try out. We are lowering machine prices to epic levels, the lowest I can remember. Now of course, our competitors may read this and follow suit, only time will tell. And I cannot say how long the discounted prices will last as we have a goal to reach and once we acheive it, price pressures may make them go back up, we'll have to see.

In the meantime, please take a look, and if you need help send me a message.

Best regards

Warren



« Last Edit: January 03, 2017, 06:38 AM by toolfest.co.uk »
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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2017, 08:15 AM »
NAINA??  Everybody wants some :).

Offline SouthRider

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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2017, 08:28 AM »
So if I am reading this right in the UK Festool dealers are allowed to set their own prices?

While in the freedom loving US the prices are fixed by Festool?

What am I missing here?

Offline Tilman

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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2017, 08:51 AM »
Thanks for the information! We have the same thing over in Germany (in Q1/2017).
https://www.festool.de/Microsite/Pages/UNPLUGGED.aspx

Buy a certain 18V tool and get a battery for free. I'm really thinking about getting the PDC.

-Tilman

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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2017, 10:16 AM »
But am I right in thinking you have to buy a set with a battery already included?  A second battery would be useful for some of the single-battery tools, but a 3rd battery for a drill might be a bit excessive (for a non-trade person).

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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2017, 01:04 PM »
Hi Warren @toolfest.co.uk - when will the Compact versions be on your site? Specifically...

Cordless hammer drill BHC 18
BHC 18 Li 3,1-Compact GB
Order Number 574925

[NOTE: Tools from other manufacturers are of course available. As this is the Festool Owners Group, I tend to limit my advice to the tools that Festool sell, and assume that you've come to this site to get advice on Festool tools and because the level of skill and experience of the community here outstrips most you'll find elsewhere. If you *are* interested in tools from other manufacturers, please mention it in your post and also take the time to visit their user forums too.]

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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2017, 01:10 PM »
Hi Warren , Happy New year mate.

Any idea when you'll have the new DAB+ sysrock ?

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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2017, 01:33 PM »
NAINA??  Everybody wants some :).


We got the PRO5 promo - before Xmas.   So, I wouldn't complain or expect to see this one our way.


But, Ive been wrong before...................


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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2017, 03:42 AM »
So if I am reading this right in the UK Festool dealers are allowed to set their own prices?

While in the freedom loving US the prices are fixed by Festool?

What am I missing here?

Yep, I think since August 2012 dealers in the EU have been free to set their own pricing.
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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2017, 03:46 AM »
But am I right in thinking you have to buy a set with a battery already included?  A second battery would be useful for some of the single-battery tools, but a 3rd battery for a drill might be a bit excessive (for a non-trade person).

Yes @geoffshep , BASIC versions are not included, but hey you could sell the battery and then effectively discount your machine further.
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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2017, 03:49 AM »
Hi Warren @toolfest.co.uk - when will the Compact versions be on your site? Specifically...

Cordless hammer drill BHC 18
BHC 18 Li 3,1-Compact GB
Order Number 574925

Hi @GarryMartin , as soon as I have had a chat with our Festool Rep and placed the necessary orders I'll list them from Pre-Order, they'll be listed at around 25% off the RRP when I do.

To be honest the 3.1Ah Compact battery is news to me. I had no heads-up on this until the letter arrived.  :)

Thanks

Warren
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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2017, 03:50 AM »
Hi Warren , Happy New year mate.

Any idea when you'll have the new DAB+ sysrock ?

Sent from my ALE-L21 using Tapatalk

@joiner1970

Happy New Year Chris,

Not a clue at the moment, I'll let you know as soon as I have the info.

Best regards

Warren
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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2017, 06:55 AM »
@GarryMartin

I've listed all the New Products at super prices for pre-order. You may have to wait a little while for delivery.

The listings are bare of information, please consult the Festool UK website for specs.

To pre-order, click here: http://www.toolfest.co.uk/new-products

Best regards

Warren

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Offline mrB

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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2017, 10:23 AM »
@toolfest.co.uk

Warren, If I make a purchase/pre order now with my credit card, will I be charged now or when the tool ships?

Cheers.
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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2017, 10:30 AM »
@toolfest.co.uk

Warren, If I make a purchase/pre order now with my credit card, will I be charged now or when the tool ships?

Cheers.

@mrB , we don't like card numbers hanging around, we charge them, then shred the numbers. You can cancel at any time, especially if the machine gets one of the infamous delivery delays and get a refund.

Or email what you'd like and I'll try and remember to message you when they're in. However your order will be behind any that have pre-paid so could take some time. Up to you.

Best regards

Warren

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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2017, 10:45 AM »
Thanks for the info Warren!
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2017, 11:31 AM »
A few more things . . .

- Wow. Warren you've really done a number on your prices @toolfest.co.uk[eek] I feel I need to buy something . .  [big grin]
- There are two versions of the KS-60!? what's the difference? anyone?
- Anyone worked out if you can by multiple tools and get free batteries or is it one per customer?

Cheers.
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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2017, 11:40 AM »
You can look up the model numbers on the festool website, select the basic or set version of the KS60 in the drop-down here: https://www.festool.co.uk/Products/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?pid=561684

As ever, the Festool website is not very informative, but it looks like the set includes at least one clamp, a bevel and a light?

..and just check you are seeing the toolfest prices with VAT if that is appropriate!

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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2017, 11:46 AM »
You can look up the model numbers on the festool website, select the basic or set version of the KS60 in the drop-down here: https://www.festool.co.uk/Products/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?pid=561684

As ever, the Festool website is not very informative, but it looks like the set includes at least one clamp, a bevel and a light?

..and just check you are seeing the toolfest prices with VAT if that is appropriate!

Interesting Geof, Thanks.

And yes I'm aware of toolfest's displayed prices without VAT.
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2017, 12:15 PM »
Apparently Festool GB cannot set prices in GB in the same way they can elsewhere.  Does this lack of control extend to overseas shipments?  Say to the US?  Those are certainly attractive enough prices less 20% VAT to make up for quite a bit of shipping expense.

A dream, I know.  But it is a new year, and it brings new possibilities beyond just price hikes, I hope.

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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2017, 12:45 PM »
All valid products (DE and UK) for the promo here as PDF (festool.net).

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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2017, 12:54 PM »
You can look up the model numbers on the festool website, select the basic or set version of the KS60 in the drop-down here: https://www.festool.co.uk/Products/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?pid=561684

As ever, the Festool website is not very informative, but it looks like the set includes at least one clamp, a bevel and a light?

..and just check you are seeing the toolfest prices with VAT if that is appropriate!

The penny drops.

I didn't notice the prices were ex VAT. Still some very competitive prices, but hardly lowered to "epic" levels. Of the three tools I checked they were only approximately £10 cheaper than Axminster's standard year round pricing! And actually some things still more expensive, such as Systainers, MFT and Centrotec sets to name a few.

Not sure why the prices are ex VAT, toolfest isn't a "trade only" supplier so it would be more appropriate to display inc VAT prices like their competitors, and less misleading to customers.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2017, 01:14 PM by bobfog »

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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2017, 01:33 PM »
Not sure why the prices are ex VAT, toolfest isn't a "trade only" supplier so it would be more appropriate to display inc VAT prices like their competitors, and less misleading to customers.

You can choose how the prices are displayed, just click the link at top right - 'Prices include/exclude VAT'

Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2017, 01:44 PM »
Ah rats to it.

I too have fallen foul of the ex/inc VAT prices. Very unusual, as noted by a previous poster, to see a website display ex VAT prices as the default when it's not primarily a business to business supplier.


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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2017, 01:48 PM »
Not sure why the prices are ex VAT, toolfest isn't a "trade only" supplier so it would be more appropriate to display inc VAT prices like their competitors, and less misleading to customers.

You can choose how the prices are displayed, just click the link at top right - 'Prices include/exclude VAT'

Yeah I see that now. It's just the song and dance about "epic" prices and the fact that it's highly unusual to see an ecommerce retail website default to ex VAT prices in this day and age meant I thought the prices displayed when following the link were to be taken at face value.

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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2017, 03:23 PM »
The penny drops.

I didn't notice the prices were ex VAT. Still some very competitive prices, but hardly lowered to "epic" levels. Of the three tools I checked they were only approximately £10 cheaper than Axminster's standard year round pricing! And actually some things still more expensive, such as Systainers, MFT and Centrotec sets to name a few.

Not sure why the prices are ex VAT, toolfest isn't a "trade only" supplier so it would be more appropriate to display inc VAT prices like their competitors, and less misleading to customers.

Hi @bobfog

Sorry to have underwhelmed you, but hey they are 'epic' prices for us and cheaper than A is better then more expensive. The new pricing applies only to machines at the moment.

You are correct we are not a 'trade-only' supplier but the majority of our sales are to other businesses and you might have asked us our customer profile before making this assumption  [poke]. Not only Festool but also through our Tanos and Fixings business, the large proportion of our customers are VAT registered, so pricing INC VAT is just including something that is irrelevant.

I am sorry if this confuses things but hey there is a button on the home page for 'Inc Vat' prices for those not able to claim the VAT back, and VAT is always indicated clearly on the Cart page.

Your point is valuable though and I've taken it onboard.

Best regards

Warren
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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2017, 03:27 PM »
Ah rats to it.

I too have fallen foul of the ex/inc VAT prices. Very unusual, as noted by a previous poster, to see a website display ex VAT prices as the default when it's not primarily a business to business supplier.

Hi @massproducedsawdust

Who says we are not primarily a business to business supplier, I love to know [poke]

Do tell?

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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2017, 07:34 PM »
The penny drops.

I didn't notice the prices were ex VAT. Still some very competitive prices, but hardly lowered to "epic" levels. Of the three tools I checked they were only approximately £10 cheaper than Axminster's standard year round pricing! And actually some things still more expensive, such as Systainers, MFT and Centrotec sets to name a few.

Not sure why the prices are ex VAT, toolfest isn't a "trade only" supplier so it would be more appropriate to display inc VAT prices like their competitors, and less misleading to customers.

Hi @bobfog

Sorry to have underwhelmed you, but hey they are 'epic' prices for us and cheaper than A is better then more expensive. The new pricing applies only to machines at the moment.

You are correct we are not a 'trade-only' supplier but the majority of our sales are to other businesses and you might have asked us our customer profile before making this assumption  [poke]. Not only Festool but also through our Tanos and Fixings business, the large proportion of our customers are VAT registered, so pricing INC VAT is just including something that is irrelevant.

I am sorry if this confuses things but hey there is a button on the home page for 'Inc Vat' prices for those not able to claim the VAT back, and VAT is always indicated clearly on the Cart page.

Your point is valuable though and I've taken it onboard.

Best regards

Warren

Warren, which ever way we cut it, a 5% discount over what the products are readily available for elsewhere is hardly "epic". I don't know about your normal buying power, margins, etc; or if it's "epic" for you - that's not really the point, you over-egged the pudding. You also can't deny that based on all your competitors websites, to default to ex VAT is highly unusual.

« Last Edit: January 04, 2017, 07:39 PM by bobfog »

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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2017, 08:19 PM »
What I'm picturing in my head is an episode of Are You Being Served in which word has come down from on high to increase sales and the minions dream up a scheme; and they are more excited about it than the punters are.

5% off a 500 Festool will get you dinner at a decent restaurant (by yourself) , but I'd hardly call it epic either.

Epic is 65% off with coupon for further savings on a future tool.

But, I can tell you this - excited salespeople are better for everyone.  No one wants to shop at a store where the people are crumudgeons.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2017, 08:22 PM by antss »

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Re: UK - FREE battery from Festool and lower prices from Toolfest
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2017, 03:49 AM »
Maybe you two, @bobfog and @antss can indulge me on this occasion. Selling Festool is a very tight market and when a few percentage points can make £100,000's of difference to our sales figures, I'm going to remain excited. I'm sure other dealers read the FOG, and so they may follow suit and it saves all of you money in the end?

Best regards

Warren

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