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Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« on: October 24, 2017, 11:55 AM »
Hello everyone!

Woodpeckers' latest OneTIME Tool is a template system for drilling 20mm or 3/4" dog holes on 96 mm centers, the same pattern as MFTs. Use it with a router and 1/2" plunge router bit to create an accurate grid of holes across your workbench or work surface.



The package includes indexing pins to locate the template on the edge of your work top, or to reference of already-drilled holes and expand the field of dog holes across the surface.

Available by pre-order only until November 13, 2017.

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Offline JimH2

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2017, 12:05 PM »
It's a new take on an idea (and jigs) that do the same. I don't know why they would make this a one-time tool as there will always be a need. I don't remember all of the others that have been made, but this one seems foolproof and quick to use.

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 03:01 PM »
I received their email this morning and it looked interesting so I took a look (I am always looking for a better way to do things).

Being that it is from Woodpecker, I expected the 'plate' to be machined aluminum - but it's not, it's phenolic resin.  I also expected it to be expensive and I was not surprised to find the price to be $170

I will just continue to use my 'tried and trued' method of using a $124 replacement mft top as my template which offers a much greater surface area (28" x 45").  I use a drill bushing to rough drill the holes and then clean it up with a 1/2" flush trim bit in my router.

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 06:51 PM »
Specifically, what are you using as a drill bushing?

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2017, 07:20 PM »
Specifically, what are you using as a drill bushing?

McMaster Carr #8492A327
Press-Fit Drill Bushing with Head, 0.625" ID, 3/4" OD, 1" Long

So I use a regular 5/8" drill bit with that bushing and I made an aluminum piece which helps hold my vac hose in place (not needed)
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The 5/8" bit will remove most of the material, leaving a hole that looks like this:
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I don't plunge the router bit.  I use a foot switch and turn it off, place it in the hole and then turn it back on to make the cut.  This is what the hole likes like when done
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« Last Edit: October 24, 2017, 08:13 PM by J0hn »

Offline Steven Owen

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 11:51 PM »
The dust collect has to be better than UKK Parf dog template.  It doesn’t seem to have much for alignment.  I guess it’s relying on your original MTF top to act as a reference to line up the holes.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=75354&cat=1,41637
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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2017, 01:45 AM »
I guess it’s relying on your original MTF top to act as a reference to line up the holes.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=75354&cat=1,41637

No - you use two rulers that have 3mm holes drilled in them to layout the holes

I like the stainless steel Parf dogs and have about a half dozen each of the long and short version, but I looked at that "Drilling System" and just think using an original MFT top as a template is a better way to go, at least for me

Here is the video on it:


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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2017, 09:53 AM »
I guess it’s relying on your original MTF top to act as a reference to line up the holes.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=75354&cat=1,41637

No - you use two rulers that have 3mm holes drilled in them to layout the holes

I like the stainless steel Parf dogs and have about a half dozen each of the long and short version, but I looked at that "Drilling System" and just think using an original MFT top as a template is a better way to go, at least for me

Here is the video on it:



The UJK looks like a more accurate system.  The Woodpeckers design looks like they worried more about speed and ease of use.
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Offline Eric Clark

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2018, 08:21 PM »
The anticipated ship date was February 18. Has anyone received theirs?

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2018, 12:02 PM »
I talked with Woodpeckers last week and they said they were shipping product starting this last Monday and that it would all be shipped by the end of March.

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2018, 12:12 PM »
I got a email that said mine was shipped and gave me a tracking number

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2018, 09:52 PM »
Specifically, what are you using as a drill bushing?

McMaster Carr #8492A327
Press-Fit Drill Bushing with Head, 0.625" ID, 3/4" OD, 1" Long

So I use a regular 5/8" drill bit with that bushing and I made an aluminum piece which helps hold my vac hose in place (not needed)
(Attachment Link)


The 5/8" bit will remove most of the material, leaving a hole that looks like this:
(Attachment Link)


I don't plunge the router bit.  I use a foot switch and turn it off, place it in the hole and then turn it back on to make the cut.  This is what the hole likes like when done
(Attachment Link)

Great thinking j0hn, and attractive to me - but my simpleton mind worries about any deflection to out of square by using a 3/4" OD fitting in a 20mm hole. Have you seen this and/or did you take any steps to fit the ~19mm (3/4") bushing into the 20mm hole?

BTW : Apologies in advance to anyone if I'm out of order - Just joined and my first post.
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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2018, 10:31 PM »
Specifically, what are you using as a drill bushing?

McMaster Carr #8492A327
Press-Fit Drill Bushing with Head, 0.625" ID, 3/4" OD, 1" Long

So I use a regular 5/8" drill bit with that bushing and I made an aluminum piece which helps hold my vac hose in place (not needed)
(Attachment Link)


The 5/8" bit will remove most of the material, leaving a hole that looks like this:
(Attachment Link)


I don't plunge the router bit.  I use a foot switch and turn it off, place it in the hole and then turn it back on to make the cut.  This is what the hole likes like when done
(Attachment Link)

Great thinking j0hn, and attractive to me - but my simpleton mind worries about any deflection to out of square by using a 3/4" OD fitting in a 20mm hole. Have you seen this and/or did you take any steps to fit the ~19mm (3/4") bushing into the 20mm hole?

BTW : Apologies in advance to anyone if I'm out of order - Just joined and my first post.

My understanding is that the bushing is used so the drill can clear out most of the waste, so the fit doesn't have to be precise.  The finish cut with the router (with flush trim bearing) will follow the original MFT hole exactly.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2018, 10:35 PM by promark747 »

Offline Dust2Dust

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2018, 01:02 PM »
Thank you promark747 - That, of course, makes perfectly good sense and could have been obvious to me if I hadn't overthought this so much.

I appreciate you taking the time to clear it up for me and best wishes
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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2018, 12:08 PM »
I got mine yesterday. Havent used it yet but it looks like a quality product easy to use. Have to supply my own 20mm bit.

Only ones ive found have 1/4" shank. Anyone know where I can get one with a 1/2 shank to use my 2200 for drilling the holes. It seems like the 2200 would be perfect for this.

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2018, 01:13 PM »
I got mine yesterday. Havent used it yet but it looks like a quality product easy to use. Have to supply my own 20mm bit.

Only ones ive found have 1/4" shank. Anyone know where I can get one with a 1/2 shank to use my 2200 for drilling the holes. It seems like the 2200 would be perfect for this.
 

You use a 1/2” diameter router bit with this template. Woodpeckers has recommended using Whiteside bits.

https://www.woodpeck.com/hole-boring-jig.html

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2018, 11:03 PM »
I see says the blind man, I get it now.....

Helps if Id read the info and watch the video huh?

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2018, 11:46 PM »
I see says the blind man, I get it now.....

Probably blinded by too much of that Cali sun 🌞... [big grin]

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Re: Woodpeckers OneTIME Tool: Boring Jig for MFTs
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2018, 11:11 AM »
Not today, we got rain  [scared] But I do like being in the shop working in the rain. Its nice here, not to hot not to cold wife wont come out and get wet to bother me, being in the shop then is sort of theraputic to me