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Offline hrrb

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2015, 05:18 PM »
Grasshopper have you thought of making your own featherboards?

Years back I tried to find some reasonable priced here in Denmark...IMPOSSIBLE!

So I started making my own from scrap wood and I've done that ever since. If you have acces to a band saw it's a piece of cake to make some 'customized' featherboards in all sizes and shapes. Among others I've made this one.







Kind regards
Henrik

Oh by the way! Always saw same direction as the wood grain [wink] But I probably don't need to tell you that.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 05:24 PM by hrrb »

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Offline Grasshopper

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2015, 08:34 PM »
Henrik,

That looks pretty slick!  Nice job.

I ended up just buying one that should work.  I'll post pics.

Grasshopper have you thought of making your own featherboards?

Years back I tried to find some reasonable priced here in Denmark...IMPOSSIBLE!

So I started making my own from scrap wood and I've done that ever since. If you have acces to a band saw it's a piece of cake to make some 'customized' featherboards in all sizes and shapes. Among others I've made this one.

(Attachment Link)

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Kind regards
Henrik

Oh by the way! Always saw same direction as the wood grain [wink] But I probably don't need to tell you that.
Aspiring DIY'er (hence the name "grasshopper" as I am looking to learn from all the masters on the FOG)- TS 55, OF 1400, MFT/3, VS600 Dovetail Jig, MFS700+ MFS2000 extension profiles, Kapex, Kapex UG set, T12 Li set(x2), CT22, Domino, Carvex, RO90, RO150, MFK700, CMS-VL, Qwas super pack & Cool Wife.

Offline Grasshopper

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2015, 08:40 PM »
OK,

So I tried to set mine up closer to Peter's. 

I found the Incra t-track locally and a featherboard with a flat back.  I think this seems like a brilliant solution.

This setup is light-years ahead of the OEM festool featherboard.  Thanks Peter!

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in as well.

Aspiring DIY'er (hence the name "grasshopper" as I am looking to learn from all the masters on the FOG)- TS 55, OF 1400, MFT/3, VS600 Dovetail Jig, MFS700+ MFS2000 extension profiles, Kapex, Kapex UG set, T12 Li set(x2), CT22, Domino, Carvex, RO90, RO150, MFK700, CMS-VL, Qwas super pack & Cool Wife.

Offline Grasshopper

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2015, 07:04 PM »
These look pretty slick!

Does the $129 price come with both the infeed and outfeed rollers?

Also, I read reviews complaining that these don't work well with narrow stock.  How narrow a board can you use with these?  (I rabbeted a 1" wide board today, which I assume would be too narrow).

I use JessEm clear stock guides. They work very well. I keep them on my Incra fence but they do work with the CMS fence as well.



Aspiring DIY'er (hence the name "grasshopper" as I am looking to learn from all the masters on the FOG)- TS 55, OF 1400, MFT/3, VS600 Dovetail Jig, MFS700+ MFS2000 extension profiles, Kapex, Kapex UG set, T12 Li set(x2), CT22, Domino, Carvex, RO90, RO150, MFK700, CMS-VL, Qwas super pack & Cool Wife.

Offline bkharman

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2015, 07:15 PM »
If you have narrow stock there is a trick. Have a wider piece to put on top with a rabbet the width of the board.
So if you had a ¾" board and wanted a ¼ x ⅜ rabbet in it, make a jig that has a ¾" wide recess (and matches the thickness of your board).

The tail catch at the back allows you to put constant pressure to move the board through the bit. Now adjust the rollers to meet the new height, which is your board + the jig height. You can also do this with feather boards.

If it is hard to understand, I can sketch it up and post.
People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along?

Offline Grasshopper

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2015, 07:29 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  Without jigs, how narrow can your stock be to use these?

I'm having a tough time picturing the jig (but don't worry about sketching it).  Next time you set it up, just post a picture.

Also does the $129 price provide both infeed and outfeed rollers?


If you have narrow stock there is a trick. Have a wider piece to put on top with a rabbet the width of the board.
So if you had a ¾" board and wanted a ¼ x ⅜ rabbet in it, make a jig that has a ¾" wide recess (and matches the thickness of your board).

The tail catch at the back allows you to put constant pressure to move the board through the bit. Now adjust the rollers to meet the new height, which is your board + the jig height. You can also do this with feather boards.

If it is hard to understand, I can sketch it up and post.
Aspiring DIY'er (hence the name "grasshopper" as I am looking to learn from all the masters on the FOG)- TS 55, OF 1400, MFT/3, VS600 Dovetail Jig, MFS700+ MFS2000 extension profiles, Kapex, Kapex UG set, T12 Li set(x2), CT22, Domino, Carvex, RO90, RO150, MFK700, CMS-VL, Qwas super pack & Cool Wife.

Offline bkharman

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CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2015, 07:42 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  Without jigs, how narrow can your stock be to use these?

I'm having a tough time picturing the jig (but don't worry about sketching it).  Next time you set it up, just post a picture.

Also does the $129 price provide both infeed and outfeed rollers?

It would depend on the cutting bit. A chamfer or round over, I would probably stop at about 6 or 7 cm (around 2")

I took a pic on the Incra and as you can see the wheels are about 3-4cm (1.5") from the fence.

The price is one set. In and out feed.

Cheers. Bryan.

People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along?

Offline Grasshopper

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2015, 09:39 PM »
Thanks Bryan.

Thanks for the reply.  Without jigs, how narrow can your stock be to use these?

I'm having a tough time picturing the jig (but don't worry about sketching it).  Next time you set it up, just post a picture.

Also does the $129 price provide both infeed and outfeed rollers?

It would depend on the cutting bit. A chamfer or round over, I would probably stop at about 6 or 7 cm (around 2")

I took a pic on the Incra and as you can see the wheels are about 3-4cm (1.5") from the fence.

The price is one set. In and out feed.

Cheers. Bryan.


Aspiring DIY'er (hence the name "grasshopper" as I am looking to learn from all the masters on the FOG)- TS 55, OF 1400, MFT/3, VS600 Dovetail Jig, MFS700+ MFS2000 extension profiles, Kapex, Kapex UG set, T12 Li set(x2), CT22, Domino, Carvex, RO90, RO150, MFK700, CMS-VL, Qwas super pack & Cool Wife.

Offline Grasshopper

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2015, 03:04 PM »
Bryan,

Thanks for your help!

I just ordered these off Amazon.  The price was dropped to $89+shipping!

http://www.amazon.com/JESSEM-Clear-Cut-Precision-Guides-JessEm/dp/B00EZDWLSM

Thanks for the reply.  Without jigs, how narrow can your stock be to use these?

I'm having a tough time picturing the jig (but don't worry about sketching it).  Next time you set it up, just post a picture.

Also does the $129 price provide both infeed and outfeed rollers?

It would depend on the cutting bit. A chamfer or round over, I would probably stop at about 6 or 7 cm (around 2")

I took a pic on the Incra and as you can see the wheels are about 3-4cm (1.5") from the fence.

The price is one set. In and out feed.

Cheers. Bryan.


Aspiring DIY'er (hence the name "grasshopper" as I am looking to learn from all the masters on the FOG)- TS 55, OF 1400, MFT/3, VS600 Dovetail Jig, MFS700+ MFS2000 extension profiles, Kapex, Kapex UG set, T12 Li set(x2), CT22, Domino, Carvex, RO90, RO150, MFK700, CMS-VL, Qwas super pack & Cool Wife.

Offline NL-mikkla

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2015, 04:51 AM »
Works perfectley, the thing I changed to your design I didn't use a piece of wood between the featherboard and angle thing.
I could mount the featherboard directley to the t-track, still hovers a bit above the table.

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Offline Peter Parfitt

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2015, 05:13 AM »
Works perfectley, the thing I changed to your design I didn't use a piece of wood between the featherboard and angle thing.
I could mount the featherboard directley to the t-track, still hovers a bit above the table.

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That certainly looks neater than my effort - well done.

Peter

Offline jmac80

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2015, 12:38 PM »
Thanks for the great idea Peter Parfitt.
@NL-mikkla How did you attach your featherboard to the rail?
I used 2 small bolts with washers and nylon locking nuts.





Slips on and off the angle guide nicely :)



Cheers
James

Offline NL-mikkla

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2015, 03:10 PM »
High James,

Your solution was my plan B.

Not in the shop and no photo right now...
I drilled two small 2mm pilot holes in the fat part of the feather board and simply screwd two woodscrews in, for now it worked prefectly.
If it ever comes loose I will switch to your, more solid, option.

Regards,
Mikkla

Offline jmac80

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2015, 03:19 PM »
High James,

Your solution was my plan B.

Not in the shop and no photo right now...
I drilled two small 2mm pilot holes in the fat part of the feather board and simply screwd two woodscrews in, for now it worked prefectly.
If it ever comes loose I will switch to your, more solid, option.

Regards,
Mikkla

Thanks for that Mikkla
I'm sure yours will last just fine.
Cheers
James

Offline sebcbien

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2016, 08:37 PM »
Hello,
Thanks everyone for the good ideas here.
I've made a prototype and wanted to share.
Main advantages: (from my point of view)
- Cheap feater board and very easy to make
- Easily adjustable with the knob tightening the T-Track

I will do a second one, longer, with a longer T-Track.
This will extend the "working range" by just using the knob thightening the T-track.

It will prevent the need to use the knob of the whole angle who is a lot harder to play with.







Offline Peter Parfitt

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2016, 04:08 AM »
Another excellent idea.

Peter

Offline ChipMonk

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Screw Head Type to Match CMS Fence Slot?
« Reply #46 on: September 12, 2017, 06:17 PM »
I use JessEm clear stock guides. They work very well. I keep them on my Incra fence but they do work with the CMS fence as well.
Thank you for sharing that bkharman.
How did you solve the compatibility issue between the hex-head screw on the Clear-Cut Stock Guides (designed to fit into a T-slot) to work with the non-standard Festool slot on the CMS fence?

Looks like the easiest fix would be to replace the screw, I just don't know what kind, any suggestions?

Offline awil66

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2017, 07:55 PM »
The jessem guides work perfectly on the cms fence without changing a thing.

Offline ChipMonk

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2017, 10:35 PM »
Perhaps my CMS OF Module fence is different than yours?
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Photo of the slot profile in the fence I received (left) next to a standard T-Slot (right)

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Picture of the CMS slot with with the standard T-Slot screw head inserted.
The CMS slot is too loose allowing the screw to turn inside the slot.

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Close up of the same screw head inside a standard T-Slot.
Perfect fit prevents the screw from turning while the clamping knob is being tightened.

Is your CMS OF fence different than what I have?
The jessem guides work perfectly on the cms fence without changing a thing.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2017, 10:45 PM by ChipMonk »

Offline Woodwork Wizard

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Re: CMS-GE feather board?
« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2017, 05:37 AM »
Featherboards for the CMS. Easily fixed to the T-slot on the fence for downward pressure or to the angle gauge for sideways pressure.