Having trouble with your Festool power tool? Well, we're here to help you. Before posting to the forum, give us a chance to diagnose and resolve your issue. In the U.S. and Canada, call us toll-free at 888-337-8600 on Monday-Friday between 8a-5p EST or contact us via email at service@festoolusa.com. For other countries, please visit http://www.festool.com for contact information for your local Festool service department.

Author Topic: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?  (Read 9586 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline cfullen

  • Posts: 41
Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« on: October 12, 2016, 10:22 PM »
Hey guys,

More of a call for help here.  I have a CT 36 and have recently purchased a CT mini.  I am on my third garage for the 36 and my new CT mini garage has now cracked in two places.  I have friends with the attic broken into much smaller pieces. 

On my CT 36 I have had success "stitching" the broken pieces together with zip ties.  I had done this in the past with ripped fenders in my 4 wheeler.  It works quite well.  I smeared a good amount of epoxy on top of the joint after stitched with the zip ties and it has worked quite well. The first two garages I lost relatively quickly.  It is a short learning curve realizing how fragile these are.  The third one looks a bit like Frankenstein, stitches all over its face. 

The CT mini is my road warrior.  It now goes everywhere with me.  That's not to say that I do not baby it because of my previous experience with the CT36.  It got a small fracture on the front left corner and did not make the trip home.  I gently lifted up the front to engage the brake foot and "snap".  I was now the proud owner of a two piece hose garage.  I am going to make an attempt to repair by stitching it up, but I don't think I will have much success because it is a compound fracture. 

I will likely be forking out the money for a replacement sooner or later.  Do I have any options?  Should I install a fiberglass backing before I release it into the wild?  (serious question)

The short end of the story is that I cannot be without both of these wonderful dust collectors.  But for the long term, I would like to see a longer life out of the hose garages.  Everything else I own by Festool is rock solid. 

Cheers,
CF

Festool USA does not pre-approve the contents of this website nor endorse the application or use of any Festool product in any way other than in the manner described in the Festool Instruction Manual. To reduce the risk of serious injury and/or damage to your Festool product, always read, understand and follow all warnings and instructions in your Festool product's Instruction Manual. Although Festool strives for accuracy in the website material, the website may contain inaccuracies. Festool makes no representations about the accuracy, reliability, completeness or timeliness of the material on this website or about the results to be obtained from using the website. Festool and its affiliates cannot be responsible for improper postings or your reliance on the website's material. Your use of any material contained on this website is entirely at your own risk. The content contained on this site is provided for informational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice.


Offline Bohdan

  • Posts: 719
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2016, 10:54 PM »
You could try filling the back of your existing hose garage with polyurathane foam to reinforce it.

Offline Jim Green

  • Posts: 28
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2016, 12:53 AM »
I had to laugh when I read the title of your post. I have a ct 26 and a midi both with broken garages that I have replaced a few times. They tip over in your truck or you look at them and there you go crack! I also have a ct 22 and 33 which seem to be almost bullet proof. They all are good vacs but my older ones are shall we say a little more robust.

Offline Cunningrj

  • Posts: 1
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2016, 01:08 AM »
I just replaced my hose garage and switch today because of damage while in the van. When I was at the connect event, I mentioned it to the repair guys and they said they are aware of it and apparently Festool is looking for a fix. 252251-0
TS 55 EQ-plus•OF 1400 EQ-plus• MFT/3•RO 150 FEQ•ETS EC 125/3 EQ•CT 26 E•

Offline TSO Products

  • Retailer
  • *
  • Posts: 420
    • TSO Products
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2016, 08:51 AM »
would not ABS cement (solvent) do a better job for repair with a thin sheet of ABS material as a reinforcement heat formed to conform? - or am I missing the point entirely?
Hans
TSOproducts.com
Transport Store Optimize
Home of the GRS-16 and GRS-16 PE Guide Rail Squares - and the MTR-18 Triangle

Offline aloysius

  • Posts: 104
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2016, 09:15 AM »
Have one for my CT22 sitting on top of the shelves.  Used it once only.  Utter waste of time & money.  Whilst it seemed like a good idea at the time, it actually makes the otherwise compact vac uselessly ungainly & (with a box or 2 loaded with sander/s & abrasives) unstably top heavy.

Unfortunately, it seems that later vacs need the stupid "top box" for the Festo toolcase locking lugs etc.

Maybe you could ditch it altogether & screw &/or glue a Systainer "Metadepot" from the Metabo/Starmix vac range to solve the problem once & for all...
FOG-wit since '95:  Some say since birth...

Offline mleny77

  • Posts: 52
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2016, 09:34 AM »
I have the CT26 still intact but I don't move it around a lot. How does the cracking happen? Is it from moving around from job site to job site or when you store and remove the hose? When I first got it unit I thought that it seemed a little tight to remove the hose from the garage.

Offline sigmatango

  • Posts: 66
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2016, 09:39 AM »
I just replaced my hose garage and switch today because of damage while in the van. When I was at the connect event, I mentioned it to the repair guys and they said they are aware of it and apparently Festool is looking for a fix. (Attachment Link)
Nice to see someone else whose Festool stuff looks like its been actually used... ;)

Offline SRSemenza

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Posts: 7672
  • Finger Lakes Region, NY State , USA
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2016, 12:49 PM »
Does seem that there are a lot of cracked CT garage housings. But so far my two CT Minis that go to job sites are holding up.  Knock on wood......... or plastic.  [smile]

Seth

Offline leakyroof

  • Posts: 1894
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2016, 01:03 PM »
3 vacs, no broken parts or Garage issues. It will interesting to see what develops from this going forward next year.
Not as many Sanders as PA Floor guy.....

Offline DrD

  • Posts: 395
  • I might not be fast BUT I sure am slow
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2016, 02:08 PM »
My CT 26 is 3 yrs old, was moved in 2 house moves in that period of time & everything is intact.  No issues.
Dr.D

Offline PreferrablyWood

  • Posts: 850
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2016, 02:49 PM »
4 or is it 5 year old CT Midi no cracks, it doesn't get bounced around in the back of a pickup truck or thrown down stairs though..
850 HL E Planer rustic head standard head angle fence, MFS 400x2, MFS extensions MFS VB 700 x 1 MFS VB 1000 x 2 . CMS GE, sliding fence, VB and 2x VL extension tables, OF 2200, Accessory Set ZS OF 2200 M,36mm 5m antistatik hose, CMS OF+ CMS TS 75 insert modules. SYS-MFT Fixing-Set,  3.5m sleeved hose, Syslite duo, Sys 4 sort 3 x3, Sys Roll, Sys 1 Box x2 , classic Sys 3-Sort 4, classic Sys 3 Sort 6 x2, Sys Cart x3 Systainer 4 x2  as toolbox with selfmade inserts Systainer 5 as toolbox with insert.
Festool 18V HKC 55 Li 5.2 EB Plus FSK 420,FSK 250, Extra blade for the HKC 55 W32.TI 15, CXS 2.6 Ah version, RO 90 DX, PDC 18/4 plus DC UNI FF depth stop chuck,AD 3/8 square socket holder FF chuck, Centrotec Bits; -->Bit holder and bit selection BHS 65 CE TL 24x, ,Bradpoint DB WOOD CE SET ,Zobo (Forstner) D 15-35 CE-Zobo SET ,Masonary/stone bits DB STONE CE Set,Extender BV 150 CE, Countersink QLS D2-8 CE Hook turner HD D18, end centrotec<--.  TS 75 EBQ, PSC 420, OF 1010, RS 300 EQ, CTL Midi, MFT 3, Parf dogs x2pair +Bench dogs x2pair, FS 1080, FS 1900 .  will get Domino DF 700 XL,  CMS insert BS 120 Belt sander.

Offline Paul G

  • Posts: 1868
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2016, 02:51 PM »
Both my 36 and mini garages are intact. But I don't drive around with them much. 
+1

Offline sigmatango

  • Posts: 66
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2016, 04:47 PM »
I have noticed that I need to buy a sysRoll. I have a tendency to stack all my Festool stuff on my CT26. That could cause future problems...  [scared] [eek]

Offline antss

  • Posts: 906
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2016, 07:42 PM »
My CT26's is intact. But, that's because it's brand new this summer. The garage , not the vac.

My opinion is that the plastic on this generation of vac is not as robust as the 22/33 series- especially the garages. 

However , I was looking at the new sortainers & sys combis this week and plastic on the drawers feels a bit more supple than to old sortainer drawers. 

My observations only - as I have not conducted any scientific analysis on any of the materials.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2016, 04:43 AM by antss »

Offline McNally Family

  • Posts: 420
  • Festool Atomic Phaser Particle Blaster (APPB Set)
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2016, 07:51 PM »
Does seem that there are a lot of cracked CT garage housings. But so far my two CT Minis that go to job sites are holding up.  Knock on wood......... or plastic[smile]

Seth

Just don't knock too hard........
GREEN: In order of purchase = C18 5.2 Set w/Centrotec Installer's Set | CT26 w/Installer Cleaning Set | RS 2 E | Hose w/ Sleeve 3.5m | 115mm X 226mm Hand Sanding Block | 80mm X 133mm Hand Sanding Block | HSK D21.5 5m hose | CT Boom Arm Bundle Set |  Won the CXS Li 2.6 90 Limited Edition on 06/20/2016 | Metric Parallel Guide Set | 1080 Plate for custom MFT | OF 1400 EQ Router (metric) w/accessories | FS1400/2-LR 32 Guide Rail (x1) | MFT FX Set | Next  Purchase: Something else Metric |

RED: // Mafell P1cc  //  MT55cc  // Next purchase: TBD

Offline Jason Kehl

  • Posts: 114
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2016, 08:45 PM »
I have 2 Midi and 2 CT-26 on site and 1 CT-36 in the shop. I replaced one of the CT-26 house garages, but otherwise no problems. They get used daily, but not abused. The plastic is not very flexible so we make a point of not banging them into things on site and take a moment to secure them for transport in the tool trailer so they don't shift in transit.

j

Offline Kevin C.

  • Posts: 86
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2016, 11:04 PM »
Nope! My ct36 is just over a year old and today broke in a third place.

Offline Gregor

  • Posts: 251
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2016, 04:05 AM »
CT36AC, ~2.8 years old, garage broke around the fixed systainer connectors when moving it over uneven ground (with XL700+OF1010 ontop). According to label produced 2012.

Problem with plastics is that the plasticizer giving it flexibility tend to fail after a while, making it brittle.

Offline JD2720

  • Posts: 958
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2016, 07:26 AM »
I have owned 8 CTs of all sizes for many years. One stays in the truck full time the others travel as needed. I have yet to even crack a hose garage. I learned early on that the hose garages is not a carrying handles.

Offline Coen

  • Posts: 255
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2016, 05:55 PM »
A CT-22(-SG), bought in a combo deal with my TS-55, I think in 2006. The hose garage is the -SG part, and was just new at that time. And a CT-26

None of them with cracks. But they largely remain in the garage.

Offline antss

  • Posts: 906
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2016, 07:40 PM »
Looks like most of the issues are on vacs that travel frequently ?   JD's notwithstanding.

Offline Coen

  • Posts: 255
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2016, 07:17 AM »
That makes sense, since the hose garage is the thing that sticks out most and bumps into things when transporting it. However, parked under a CS-50... it never contacts with anything.

Offline SS Teach

  • Posts: 228
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2016, 07:33 PM »
The hose garage on my CT36 has a couple of cracks. I think many many days over 100 degrees F for several years has something to do with it. Plastic things don't last a long time where I live.
RTS 400, LS 130, Sandpaper Systainer, Profile Systainer. ETS 125, Sandpaper Systainer, Ro 90, Sandpaper Systainer,  Ro 150, Sandpaper Systainer, OF 1400, TS 55 REQ, CT36, CXS Li 1.5 Set, Centrotec Wood-Drill-Set/8pcs, CT Wings, Surfix Set.

Offline BJM9818

  • Posts: 88
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2016, 12:05 AM »
I have a CT36 with just 4 corner post on top. Both my midi garages are fine and one dates back to 2007.

Offline HarveyWildes

  • Posts: 439
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2016, 09:03 AM »
Mine is fine, but sees mostly shop use.  I have to say that it is a great idea for my house remodel projects - I put my systainer tool caddy on the garage and wheel all the hand and cordless tools around with the vacuum.  I would be disappointed if it broke so that it was no longer usable for that.

Offline duburban

  • Posts: 877
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2016, 02:19 AM »
I have two vacs and two cracks.
helper: i used a festool "circular saw" to do something simple and it made it really hard

me: exactly, it makes simple cuts complicated and complicated cuts simple

Offline Roseland

  • Posts: 503
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2016, 03:52 AM »
My 8 year old CT26 is intact, but it spends almost all its life in the workshop, and I don't stack systainers on it.

Andrew
TS55, MFT/3, OF1400, OF1010, CT26, RS100, ETS125, CXS, MFS400, DF-500, Zobos.

Offline chippy

  • Festool Dealer
  • *
  • Posts: 22
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2017, 03:15 AM »
Mine fell over in van last week and now it has cracks and it will fall apart quickly now.
It will be the third top. I see many that are broken it is a real and cheap weakness.

Offline Ross 71

  • Posts: 48
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2017, 08:35 PM »
My midi has put up with near 2 years of being lumped around and is still intact.

I'm worried now....
If you need a tool and don't buy it, You will ultimately find that you have paid for it but don't have it- Henry Ford

Offline Lettusbee

  • Posts: 26
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2017, 10:26 PM »
I purchased both a CT26 and a midi this last summer.  The CT26 was already broken when I opened the box.  It was of course replaced by the vendor.  But still.  Decades of experience in plastics manufacturing, and we have to put up with this?   It's just a little weird some of the idiosyncrasies we accept in pursuit of superior tools.

Festool USA does not pre-approve the contents of this website nor endorse the application or use of any Festool product in any way other than in the manner described in the Festool Instruction Manual. To reduce the risk of serious injury and/or damage to your Festool product, always read, understand and follow all warnings and instructions in your Festool product's Instruction Manual. Although Festool strives for accuracy in the website material, the website may contain inaccuracies. Festool makes no representations about the accuracy, reliability, completeness or timeliness of the material on this website or about the results to be obtained from using the website. Festool and its affiliates cannot be responsible for improper postings or your reliance on the website's material. Your use of any material contained on this website is entirely at your own risk. The content contained on this site is provided for informational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice.


Offline Laminator

  • Posts: 278
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2017, 11:08 PM »
I recently had to repair the top of my oldest 26 where the work center rests on it. I lazily used it to push myself from my knees after changing the bag and it cracked about 8".  I used pl8 adhesive and filled the hollow channel completely.  It now feels solid as a polyurethane rock.

Offline jools

  • Posts: 255
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2017, 02:53 AM »
My 3yo midi is missing bits and has a cracked corner. Treated no different to a cheap vac which is in pristine condition.
It's seems to happen in the cold more.
It started with one little sander

Offline scholar

  • Posts: 80
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2017, 07:56 AM »
My CT26 is getting on a bit now and is all in one piece.  The only problem I have with that is the old style systainer catches and I really wish Festool would redesign the top with a T-Loc catch.

My CT Mini did suffer a small bit breaking off the corner of the hose guide on the "garage", but I replaced the whole top with the new T-Loc style, since when it has survived unscathed.

Cheers

« Last Edit: March 19, 2017, 09:30 AM by scholar »

Offline jools

  • Posts: 255
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2017, 09:50 AM »
That's where my midi broke first and I have the older systainer latches style. Was it hard to change @scholar ?
It started with one little sander


Offline HarveyWildes

  • Posts: 439
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2017, 10:44 AM »
I purchased both a CT26 and a midi this last summer.  The CT26 was already broken when I opened the box.  It was of course replaced by the vendor.  But still.  Decades of experience in plastics manufacturing, and we have to put up with this?   It's just a little weird some of the idiosyncrasies we accept in pursuit of superior tools.

I have a CT36 with an intact hose garage that came that way.  It is in a home shop, so doesn't get tradesman use, but it has survived the granddaughters, who clean my shop once a month or so for spending money.

For all of that, I actually do use the garage quite a bit when I'm in the shop.  I use it to stage whatever tool I'm using at the moment that requires dust collection.  Usually a systainer for the tool I'm using with the CT and another for consumables (dominos or sandpaper).

Offline Stan Tillinghast

  • Posts: 21
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2017, 05:53 PM »
My old CT 33 still has its hose garage intact; the newer (and more used) CT 36 has a broken garage. Everyone wants to sell me a garage for the CT 33, but the design is different. I can't find a part number for the hose garage for the CT 36. I recall the garage was an accessory for the 33 but standard on the 36.
Does anyone have a US source and part number for the hose garage replacement for the CT 36?

Offline SRSemenza

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Posts: 7672
  • Finger Lakes Region, NY State , USA
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2017, 07:33 PM »
My old CT 33 still has its hose garage intact; the newer (and more used) CT 36 has a broken garage. Everyone wants to sell me a garage for the CT 33, but the design is different. I can't find a part number for the hose garage for the CT 36. I recall the garage was an accessory for the 33 but standard on the 36.
Does anyone have a US source and part number for the hose garage replacement for the CT 36?

Looks like 496237 on the EKAT. Contact a dealer to order.

You can find parts diagrams on the Festool Spare Parts selection on the Festool Websites drop down in the top bar.

Seth

Offline Bob D.

  • Posts: 328
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2017, 07:42 PM »
My CT36 is still in great shape after 6+ years but it rarely gets pulled out from under the outfeed table of my tablesaw.
-----
It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?

Offline PA floor guy

  • Posts: 283
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2017, 07:42 PM »
I'm so glad to see this post. I have spoken with Shane and Tyler about it already. Tyler is gonna get this resolved with festool Directly.   THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!
    Each day that goes by gets me more irritated, having 5 festool vacs.  All broken garages.     

Offline Brice Burrell

  • Posts: 7179
  • Remodeling Contractor
    • The Green and Dark Blue blog
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2017, 08:46 PM »
I'm so glad to see this post. I have spoken with Shane and Tyler about it already. Tyler is gonna get this resolved with festool Directly.   THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!
    Each day that goes by gets me more irritated, having 5 festool vacs.  All broken garages.   

I hope you mean Festool is going to fix the issue with the plastic, and not just your broken vacs.
Check out my new blog, The Green and Dark Blue Blog.

Offline Stan Tillinghast

  • Posts: 21
Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2017, 10:33 PM »
SRSemenza, thanks for checking on that part number 496237. Yes, EKAT does show that as the correct part for the CT 36. I was going by the images I see online for that part, which is the picture for the older hose garage as far as I can tell. I will check with the local dealer, thanks. Or maybe I won't and will wait until Festool makes an unbreakable hose garage.  [wink]