JD2720
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« on: December 28, 2007, 01:10 AM » |
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My Wife & Kids got me a TRION PSB 300 EQ jigsaw for Christmas. It is a great saw but I have a problem with it.
I cannot see the cut line with the chip guard in place. I can see the line fine with the chip guard removed, but the dust collection is lacking.
Am I missing something?
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Eli
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2007, 03:01 AM » |
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No, you aren't missing anything. That would be the shortfall. Some people black the cut line with a sharpie, some cut from the underside. Crazy as it might sound, I cut with the saw heading towards me if I can, that helps. Good light is important.
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2007, 10:03 AM » |
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Don't forget the antistatic wipe trick.......
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Daviddubya
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2007, 10:43 AM » |
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Are you using the splinter guard? I have become accustomed to using the arrow on the front of the splinter guard to follow the cut line. It works quite well, and is very easy to see. If you need to make a very accurate cut, remove both the chip guard and the splinter guard to see the blade clearly.
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Lou Miller
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2007, 01:47 PM » |
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Return it and buy a Bosch...   |
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2007, 05:09 PM » |
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I agree with Lou on getting the bosch instead. I think they are equal in their cutting and for $15 you can add the dust collection onto the bosch and still be at about $170 or less if amazon or another retailer is running a promotion. But as you've found out, the dust hood will be a problem on either saw. Thank your wife and kids for the wonderful thought, exchange it for the bosch and take them out to dinner with the difference.
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Eli
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2007, 05:43 PM » |
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You're crazy Hoover! Buy blades with the difference! |
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JD2720
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2007, 06:15 PM » |
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Thanks for the replies. I will not be returning the Festool jigsaw. I already own 2 Bosh jigsaws. The Bosch saws are nice, but the Festool saw in much nicer. As is advertised, the Festool does a much better job of keeping the blade vertical & the dust collection is great. I am going to be ordering some more chip guards & try enlarging the opening to improve the veiw of the cut line & still have good dust collection.
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Eli
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2007, 07:54 PM » |
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Finally, a defender of the jigsaw. |
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Brice Burrell
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2007, 08:16 PM » |
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Thanks for the replies. I will not be returning the Festool jigsaw. I already own 2 Bosh jigsaws.....
I bet your Bosch jigsaws are a few years old, not the newest models?? |
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2007, 08:21 PM » |
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I have one of the newest bosch jigsaws and it is a good saw but cutting material thicker than .75" you rarely get it to cut square.
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Steven in Iowa
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2007, 09:28 PM » |
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I also had a new model Bosch and bought the Festool for the dust control. After using it for cutting the 'Bird's Mouths' on a bunch of home built rafters this Summer, I can certainly can say the Festool cuts much straighter when the material is > 1". JMHO
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2007, 09:35 PM » |
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I hope its worth the extra money over the Bosch for both dust control and squareness of cut. I'm still waiting for Santa to deliver mine!
Fred
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Mike Chrest
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2007, 10:54 PM » |
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Have you guys tried the Bosch saw with Festool blades? I'm curious if that improves the square cutting ability.
Mike
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Eli
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2007, 12:12 AM » |
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The blade guides are supposedly what keep the blade square, not the blade itself.
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Brad Evans
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« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2007, 01:00 AM » |
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I like the Bosch. It doesn't bounce around with too much vacuum...  |
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Bob Marino
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« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2007, 01:09 AM » |
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The blade guides are supposedly what keep the blade square, not the blade itself.
True, but Festool also has a series of thicker blades, which do not deflect nearly as much as the others. Bob |
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Steven in Iowa
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« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2007, 01:21 AM » |
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The blade guides are supposedly what keep the blade square, not the blade itself.
True, but Festool also has a series of thicker blades, which do not deflect nearly as much as the others. Bob That is exactly what I used and they definitely perform as advertised. |
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JD2720
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« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2007, 01:30 AM » |
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The blade guides are supposedly what keep the blade square, not the blade itself.
True, but Festool also has a series of thicker blades, which do not deflect nearly as much as the others. Bob Bob, Are any of the thicker blades included in the blade assortment? |
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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2007, 11:41 AM » |
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Bob,
Are any of the thicker blades included in the blade assortment?
I'm not Bob, but... Yes, there are 7 of the S 75/4 FSG blades in the assortment. The FSG are the thicker blades. BTW - you can use Festool blades in Bosch saws and vice versa. |
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Bob Marino
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« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2007, 11:48 AM » |
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Bob,
Are any of the thicker blades included in the blade assortment?
I'm not Bob, but... Yes, there are 7 of the S 75/4 FSG blades in the assortment. The FSG are the thicker blades. BTW - you can use Festool blades in Bosch saws and vice versa. Thanks Dave!  Bob |
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JD2720
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2007, 12:32 PM » |
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Bob,
Are any of the thicker blades included in the blade assortment?
I'm not Bob, but... Yes, there are 7 of the S 75/4 FSG blades in the assortment. The FSG are the thicker blades. BTW - you can use Festool blades in Bosch saws and vice versa. Thanks Dave, I have been using the Bosch blades in the Festool jigsaw. That is one of the reasons I am very impressed with the saw. It cuts so much better than the Bosch, using the same blades. I just discovered that one of the FSG blades came with the saw. I had not even looked at them as I wanted to do a comparason with the blades I have been using. Thanks Bob. Chris |
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2007, 01:32 PM » |
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I have one of the newest bosch jigsaws and it is a good saw but cutting material thicker than .75" you rarely get it to cut square.
Then I suggest that you try a few Makita blades in your Bosch. I purchased a Makita jigsaw a couple of years ago because most of the work I was doing seemed to be in low light situations (building a deck in the evenings/nights), and I liked the relatively smaller size and LED light that shines on the cutting edge of the blade, and the cost was about the same as a Bosch unit. Makita included a small assortment of their blades, which have the same bayonet mount as is used by Bosch and Festool. I have found their blades to cut very square, even in 2X stock. In fact for cutting 2X ACQ lumber, I prefer Makita's blades to the Festool products. Dave R. |
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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2007, 02:09 PM » |
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Eli, The blade guides are supposedly what keep the blade square, not the blade itself. The newer model Bosch has very similar lower blade guides  (Somebody copied) and I have the older Bosch so I am curious if more ridgid blades would bring the new Bosch close to the Festool in square cutting ability. So anyone with a new Bosch and a Triton want to compair? Mike |
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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2007, 02:25 PM » |
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Mike,
I should be able to do a comparison once my jigsaw arrives as my Dad as two Bosch jigsaws, both a newer style and an older one.
Fred
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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2007, 02:36 PM » |
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Fred, Woo hoo. A real tool review Thanks, Mike |
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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2007, 08:21 PM » |
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Bob,
Are any of the thicker blades included in the blade assortment?
I'm not Bob, but... Yes, there are 7 of the S 75/4 FSG blades in the assortment. The FSG are the thicker blades. BTW - you can use Festool blades in Bosch saws and vice versa. David, Just to confirm something with the festool blades. The 75 in the number stands for the length of the blade and does the 4 stand for the thickness? I assume this is the case but I just want to make sure I'm interpreting it correctly. Thanks. |
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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2008, 03:58 PM » |
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Mike,
I should be able to do a comparison once my jigsaw arrives as my Dad as two Bosch jigsaws, both a newer style and an older one.
Fred
Did this review ever happen, Fred? Just curious. Brad |
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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2008, 04:05 PM » |
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Not yet, just received the saw yesterday, but somehow accidently ordered the d-handle version instead of the barrel grip version, so I need to exchange it. Still can't figure out how in the world I did that since the website actually has the picture of the saw next to the add to cart button. Fortunately, Bob is a great guy to deal with and there's no problem getting it exchanged.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste..... but, I get better at it every day.
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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2008, 05:16 PM » |
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David,
Just to confirm something with the festool blades. The 75 in the number stands for the length of the blade and does the 4 stand for the thickness? I assume this is the case but I just want to make sure I'm interpreting it correctly. Thanks.
I'm not David, but the 75 is indeed the length (in millimeters) of the cutting part of the blade. The 4 is the size of the teeth in millimeters. Frans |
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