I was not being personal just opening a debate which i thought was a reasonable thing to do.

G.L (also having an early night due to an early start as i am oiling a 4m oak hall table)

I had the #2 phillips head version break on me the very first time I used it.  The screws were not painted over, however they were fairly firmly in place.  I lost grip, and as soon as I could release the trigger, I stopped and looked at the bit.  Sure enough, it was jacked.  I'll grab a pic of it later on.  I was on the fence about buying the centrotec kit, but figured I'd go ahead and grab it since I got a new drill, but after having that happen, I'm not planning on ever buying another festool centrotec bit.

Hi Timtool

I may be wrong but I think that there might be a 3td Torx variant, normal, security plus a new one - I might be thinking of something else.

Peter

I mistakenly bought a spax bitset once thinking it were regular torx, on regular torxscrews the bits don't work too well, because the little round end prevents them to seat at the bottom of the screwhead, thus are more likely to strip the screwhead.

I mostly use hecofix or spax screws, but mainly with pozidrive heads, but not so long ago we got a few boxes of the longer reisser screws from our lumberyard, and we like them a lot, and they were cheaper too.

At least you know now what caused your bit to wear prematurely, the combination of the softer steel and the spax screws that only use the very tip of a regular torx bit.

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hi peter , never mind about winning the lottery you have just found the cure for insomnia, [ just kidding ] the bit issue will carry on no doubt but in my own experience i have found wera to be a very good choice although not without faults though , last year whilst replacing a garage roof i was using an impact drill with the wera bits all new with the appropriate screws, first three bits sheered off and after a quick call to the supplier i was put in contact with a wera rep who was very concerned about the bits breaking , i was then asked to send the offending bits and the holder back to wera u.k. and i was told the offending bits would be sent back to germany for testing, a few days later i received a whole set of wera impact bits and the holders x 2 . very happy with them so far, now wera have just brought out another version of the bits and holders impactor i believe, any how i am just putting the message out there that the good tool companys such as festool etc will always be looking to improve on their products for the good of all of us the end users, love the videos buy the way , if you would care to pm me i shall be more than happy to send you one of the sets i received  the least i can do after all the information you put out there for us.

Those maxxfast screws do look tidy, i want some decent priced screws in the uk that are good other than spax or reisser. The ultimate screws have changed and are rubbish now

Come to think of it the fruldser vbu screws that warren sells are the same

You only need the slot if you need to take it out you daft aussie