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Offline Cheese

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #60 on: September 21, 2018, 10:25 AM »
I visited Woodcraft yesterday and noticed almost all of the demo tools now have the new bayonet style hose connection. All 3 Rotexes, the jig saws, the new sanders, both Dominos even this older style ETS 150.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2018, 10:34 AM by Cheese »

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Offline James Biddle

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #61 on: September 21, 2018, 08:12 PM »
Does anyone here remember an example of when Festool listened to the complaints posted on this site?  Do you remember them even responding, let alone made changes?  Hose ends, Kapex, Imperial/Metric, more holes in sandpaper, this latest promotion where you need to send in a tool to ring the bell, etc. 

We believe that Tyler fed our complaints up to corporate.  Have we ever heard back from corporate on any issue?

When the quality slips, innovation dries up, and the cost remains high, they then have to compete with every other company.  If it's no longer a system, it's a bunch of tools that have to compete with every other company.  Companies that continue to innovate and fill the voids Festool created for itself. 

Offline Cheese

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #62 on: September 22, 2018, 10:26 AM »
Does anyone here remember an example of when Festool listened to the complaints posted on this site? 

I'm still waiting for a response to the Kapex issue that Festool actually solicited.   [dead horse]

I think that was about 2 years ago.  [sad]

Offline jonathan-m

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #63 on: September 22, 2018, 11:17 AM »
I cannot express in words how much I hate the new hose ends and tool connections.
One thing is for sure, I will die before I buy a tool with that connection.

Love the smooth hoses, but absolutely hate the connectors.
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Offline mrB

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2018, 04:57 PM »
I can think of a few examples, off hand, where Festool seemed to listen to the customers.  But I'm hesitant to mention them because I feel they are increasingly NOT listening. But I do believe the below products were released or altered due to customer feedback. . .

CT SYS release
13mm chuck upgrade on CXS
Smooth hoses introduced (and the pervious hose covers)
Vac SYS in USA finally
Compact 18v Batteries
Compact Battery Drill sets
 
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

Offline Kodi Crescent

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #65 on: October 17, 2018, 08:48 PM »

Some nitwit in a cubicle somewhere comes up with a brilliant plan to fix something that isn't broken and makes things way worse as a result.


Probably one of those new "User Experience Designers" that seem to be popping up everywhere.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2018, 04:03 PM »
@Cheese

This may be of interest to some. The old style hose connectors are all gone. .however, if you take a D36 to D27 reducer available from either Festool ($$$) or from Industrial Vacuum for $15 http://www.industrialvacs.com/Tool_Socket_connects_suction_hose_to_power_tool_p/h302000535.htm , which I just got a few minutes ago in the mail, the portion that is essentially the 'old style' vac hose end is reverse threaded and removable from the D36 end. It's a snug fit putting it on a cleantec adapter. Hope this helps.








Offline Svar

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2018, 04:29 PM »
Does anyone here remember an example of when Festool listened to the complaints posted on this site? 
I'm still waiting for a response to the Kapex issue that Festool actually solicited.
I think that was about 2 years ago.
Very unfortunate. What other tool maker has such a vibrant forum dedicated to a single brand?
FOG is a gold mine of ideas and user feedback in a single place.
What is the point for Festool to run and own this forum if they don't utilize it for self improvement?
« Last Edit: October 24, 2018, 04:33 PM by Svar »

Offline ben_r_

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #68 on: October 24, 2018, 04:37 PM »
@Cheese

This may be of interest to some. The old style hose connectors are all gone. .however, if you take a D36 to D27 reducer available from either Festool ($$$) or from Industrial Vacuum for $15 http://www.industrialvacs.com/Tool_Socket_connects_suction_hose_to_power_tool_p/h302000535.htm , which I just got a few minutes ago in the mail, the portion that is essentially the 'old style' vac hose end is reverse threaded and removable from the D36 end. It's a snug fit putting it on a cleantec adapter. Hope this helps.








Thats pretty cool, but other than converting the new hoses to the old style connectors (which I agree is way better) what else might one use this adapter for?
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Offline Cheese

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #69 on: October 24, 2018, 06:51 PM »
This may be of interest to some. The old style hose connectors are all gone. .however, if you take a D36 to D27 reducer available from either Festool ($$$) or from Industrial Vacuum for $15 http://www.industrialvacs.com/Tool_Socket_connects_suction_hose_to_power_tool_p/h302000535.htm , which I just got a few minutes ago in the mail, the portion that is essentially the 'old style' vac hose end is reverse threaded and removable from the D36 end. It's a snug fit putting it on a cleantec adapter.

Thanks for that @DynaGlide   🙏

That’s a pretty clever solution to an aggravating situation.  [big grin]

Just curious if the Festool reducer is also a 2-piece unit?

Offline Svar

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #70 on: October 24, 2018, 07:17 PM »
This may be of interest to some. The old style hose connectors are all gone. .however, if you take a D36 to D27 reducer available from either Festool ($$$) or from Industrial Vacuum for $15 http://www.industrialvacs.com/Tool_Socket_connects_suction_hose_to_power_tool_p/h302000535.htm , which I just got a few minutes ago in the mail, the portion that is essentially the 'old style' vac hose end is reverse threaded and removable from the D36 end. It's a snug fit putting it on a cleantec adapter.
Festool forgot to "improve" those. Better move quick.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #71 on: October 24, 2018, 07:47 PM »
The best part is Festool can't really stop this since they don't make this part. They repackage a Nilfisk adapter and charge a handsome fee.

Offline ben_r_

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Re: New Dust Extractor Ends
« Reply #72 on: October 26, 2018, 05:15 PM »
The best part is Festool can't really stop this since they don't make this part. They repackage a Nilfisk adapter and charge a handsome fee.
They do that with quite a few of their vacuum accessories and parts I found. Nice once you find the equivalents and pick them up for 1/4 the cost!
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