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Offline mystudio

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OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« on: January 01, 2017, 09:30 AM »
Hi all,

Yesterday I bought the Festool OF 1010 EBQ router. However, what's surprising me, I got scratches on certain surfaces because of the bottom of the router. (especially when using it on HPL with some reliëf). It looks to me that this is caused by the screws on the bottem of the surface, which are not deep enough away. (see attachment) They are all tightened, so, that can't be the problem. Does anyone recognize this issue? Do all 1010 routers have this?
Thx in advance!
« Last Edit: January 01, 2017, 09:41 AM by mystudio »
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Offline ear3

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2017, 09:36 AM »
Photo not attached  btw.

I had a similar problem, but with the edging plate, where one of the screws was not tightened all the way down, and so the first time I used it it left scratches on the wood surface.  But this was quickly remedied with a quick turn of the screwdriver.

Short answer is that you shouldn't be having this problem.  But are the screws in question the ones for the hardfiber base, or for the plastic insert?

You say that you can't tighten the offending screw any further, so try swapping places with the screws -- tighten one of the screws that is flush in the hole where the proud screw was to determine whether the problem is the screw or the screw hole.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2017, 09:39 AM by Edward A Reno III »
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Offline mystudio

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2017, 09:42 AM »
Thx,

They are the one on the hardfiber base indeed. Will try to exchange some.....
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Offline Cheese

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2017, 09:55 AM »
I'd throw a straight edge across the offending screws and see if they're countersunk below the surface of the base. If not, you can either return the router or countersink the screws deeper into the base.  [smile]

Edit...
@mystudio ...looking closer at the base, it appears the screw in the lower right corner may be proud of the base surface. I'd start there.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2017, 09:58 AM by Cheese »

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2017, 10:44 AM »
It would be a shame to let the router go back for a repair (risking loss, damage in transit and lost time). Just establish which screw is proud and deepen the countersink a tiny bit.

Peter

Offline mystudio

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2017, 02:15 PM »
Good idea Peter. Tried that. However, 4 of them are not deep enough. Deepened the hardfiber with the countersink, however, that may not be the problem. Look at the pic below. It looks something like the head of the screws are too fat, or, they didn't tap enough 'draad' (what's the English word for it?), or the hardfiber isn't thick enough. If I tightend the screws without the hardfiber and show the hardfiber next to the screws, it's head is at the same height as the hardfiber....
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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2017, 03:08 PM »
Gosh, it is not as simple as I thought.

If the actual screw holes are long enough then you could tap them a little deeper or you could shorten the screws.

However, the screws will be the right length now and it would be better to have the holes adjusted.

I think it may be time to play your Joker and get Festool to fix this.

Good luck - please let us know how you get on.

Peter

Offline neilc

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2017, 03:12 PM »
Try running a hand-held countersink in the metal where the screw enters without the fiber base in place.  This might let it bottom out a little deeper and properly capture the fiber base.

Offline greg mann

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2017, 07:14 PM »
I think Neil's got it right. The thread may not be deep enough but it looks like it's the head of the screw that is stopping progress. His suggestion to use hand power is also wise. You want to just remove part of the top thread. Mark the screw so you can tell if it will go in further after a little chamfering. Perhaps a half turn will be enough but a full turn won't hurt.
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Offline Gregor

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2017, 05:43 AM »
Yesterday I bought the Festool OF 1010 EBQ router.
(emphasis mine)

I would suggest to take it to your dealer, show the problem and politely state 'please swap this to one that dosn't have this problem'. In case he declines simply use the '30 day no questions asked' to get back your money and pick one up (preferedly) somewhere else. My guess would be that you won't need to execute what I outlined in the second sentence, in case you do you could write a mail to your local festool headquarter with details of what happened (and where) to set wheels in motion that (most likely) will make it unlikely for it to happen again for another customer.

Offline Distinctive Interiors

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2017, 06:14 AM »
I've just had a look at my OF1010 (2014) baseplate & screws and the screwheads certainly look thicker on yours than on mine. Also, your fibre baseplate looks different as well. Mine is brown with a barely discernable fibre pattern on it. Perhaps Festool have swopped over to a different supplier for the fibre baseplate & screws...??

Offline ear3

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2017, 08:05 AM »
I would second the dealer swap out option.  One of the main points of purchasing Festool is that you shouldn't have to monkey around with stuff like this straight out of the box.
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Offline antss

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2017, 02:14 PM »
For laughs and giggles, and for future reference I measured my 1010 base and got 1.95mm in thickness. 

5/64ths for those of you buying into the new imperial offerings.

The torx15 screws measure 8.17 mm on average -or- 21/64ths.

You can see in the second pic that the screw is slightly below the plate when snugged up to the casting.  This is a bit different then what @mystudio shows.  I'm curious about studio's plate thickness and screw length.



« Last Edit: January 02, 2017, 02:27 PM by antss »

Offline TomE

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2017, 11:33 PM »
for future reference I measured my 1010 base and got 1.95mm in thickness. 


Same on my unit, didn't bother to measure the screws but they also sit below flush on the base.

Offline ben_r_

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2017, 01:36 PM »
Hmmm, Ill have to remember to check my OF 1010 with a straight edge when it comes.
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Offline mystudio

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Re: OF 1010 EBQ router problem
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2017, 02:20 PM »
Swapped it; without any problems got myself a new one which doesn't have the problem. Dealer didn't recognize the problem either, so, it's rather unique probably.
Thx for all your input guys!
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