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FESTOOL DISCUSSIONS => Festool Tool Problems => Topic started by: OXCanada on August 26, 2017, 11:15 PM

Title: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: OXCanada on August 26, 2017, 11:15 PM
Hi I just purchased my of 1010 and after three weeks in the shop I noticed rust on the posts. Looking deeper there are some scratches there. When I got the router I didn't think anything of the small scratches.  Ow I am concerned about the rust. I live in the Midwest but have never had a tool rust like this.

I'm just out of the 30 day period and looking for advice on if this is something to be concerned about. Or if I should oil it and watch it closer.

Here is a pick of the issue.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: Peter_C on August 27, 2017, 04:53 AM
If it were me, I would remove the rust, and put some silicon on it so the dust is repelled. That is not much more than a light surface rust. Also I would watch the garage humidity, and strongly consider a dehumidifier to protect all my tools.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: Distinctive Interiors on August 27, 2017, 05:04 AM
I have had my OF1010 for about 2 years now and have a few similar marks on the posts as yours.
It is probably a sweaty fingerprint that has caused it. I was disappointed when I saw the same thing on my router, especially as I have a couple of really old Dewalt/Elu routers and there are no signs of similar rust on their posts....!

I mentioned it to the Festool Rep that pops in to see me and he suggested using a silicone spray to keep the posts lubricated and prevent the rust forming from the fingerprints.

I also keep little packs of Silica Crystals in the systainer now as well, just to try and keep the moisture content at bay.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: Alex on August 27, 2017, 05:18 AM
Festool metal parts rust like crazy, it's ridiculous. I once bought a 4 year old OF1010 router and the columns were rusted all over. Just like poster above, I have a DeWalt/Elu router for 20 years already, and it has not a spec on it. Festool should really work on their rust protection, other brands do this a lot better.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: antss on August 27, 2017, 10:57 AM
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I mentioned it to the Festool Rep that pops in to see me and he suggested using a silicone spray to keep the posts lubricated and prevent the rust forming from the fingerprints.

This usually a bad idea in a woodworking environment.  If silicone gets on your project it will keep finishes from adhering.   Wax is a better alternative in my opinion.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: Peter Halle on August 27, 2017, 12:24 PM
Rusting of router posts is not new news here.  Trying to protect them with some sort of repellent is a good idea.  If you use silicone or any protectant apply away from your work area and wipe off excess.  Transference to a work surface from router posts would be a slim chance in my mind, but heck, anything is possible.

Peter
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: Birdhunter on August 27, 2017, 12:27 PM
I use Beoshield on my cast iron power tool tops. It seems to work well in protecting them from rust.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: Cheese on August 27, 2017, 12:49 PM
I also use Boeshield on cast iron tops and Dyna Glide for lubricating router posts and the rods on the Domino.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: rst on August 27, 2017, 02:31 PM
nther thumbs up for Boeshield.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: ben_r_ on August 27, 2017, 06:35 PM
This is the first I have heard of this. Gonna have to figure out what I want to use on the posts. Dont want those getting rust on them.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: Rip Van Winkle on August 28, 2017, 06:17 AM
To remove the rust that is already on the plunge posts, I would recommend using very fine uncoated steel wool. You might want to wipe the posts down with a mild solvent like denatured or 90% isopropyl alcohol. I would recommend steel wool instead of non woven abrasives, since the non woven Scotch Brite type abrasives have aluminum oxide embedded in the pads than can come loose and get embedded in the bronze bushings that slide over the plunge posts. The steel wool idn't much harder than the plunge posts and at most will burnish any roughness on the surface making the posts a bit smoother. This might not remove all the staining from the rust but the posts will wind up fully functional.

After using the steel wool it's probably best to wipe the posts down with alcohol again ti remove any dust left from the steel wool.

Then as other members have already recommended, I would use Boeshield T9 on the posts. The Boeshield goes on as a tin liquid than can get into any pores in the steel of the post sealing them.

If you have it, after using the Boeshield, I would recommend wiping and polishing the plunge posts with Renaissance Wax. The Renaissance wax is formulated and used to protect objects like armour at the British Museum, and also leaves a very smooth hard surface coating. The wax finish is harder and smoother than the finish from the Boeshield, and the plunge posts should plunge easier and more smoothly one applied. I know after applying the renaissance wax to the plunge posts on a couple Dewalt routers, I could plunge the routers by a single handle, which didn't really work previously. Regular paste wax might also workbut I don't think it dries as hard.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: Cheese on August 28, 2017, 12:26 PM
I would highly recommend that you use either stainless steel wool or bronze wool for removing the rust.

Using plain steel wool on the 1010 posts is a big no-no. Even though at first it would appear to be removing the rust, using plain steel wool will actually transfer microscopic particles of iron/steel to the posts and you will actually have a worse rusting problem over time.

That's the reason why metal workers/welders keep the tools/abrasives/brushes that they use on steel separate from the ones that they use on stainless steel...it prevents cross contamination.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: Birdhunter on August 28, 2017, 03:18 PM
I didn't know this about Renaissance wax until I was told by a supplier of very high end sporting firearms, but it has a very fine abrasive mixed in with it.

I keep my Domino posts and router posts wiped down with a very fine oil. I do use Beoshield on my cast iron table tops, but not on friction parts.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: Svar on August 28, 2017, 04:20 PM
I didn't know this about Renaissance wax until I was told by a supplier of very high end sporting firearms, but it has a very fine abrasive mixed in with it.
Are you sure he wasn't just trying to sell you a competing brand?
Perhaps the term microcrystalline wax (which Renaissance is) mislead him?
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: RobBob on August 28, 2017, 08:50 PM
I didn't know this about Renaissance wax until I was told by a supplier of very high end sporting firearms, but it has a very fine abrasive mixed in with it.

Was his name Jack L?  If so, don't be so sure that he knew what he was talking about regarding Renaissance wax. 

I'm pretty sure Renaissance Wax does not contain an abrasive.  However, the same company makes a polish that does contain an abrasive.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: antss on August 28, 2017, 10:21 PM
Birdhunter - your smith or dealer is mistaken or uneducated. RW does not contain any abrasive. 

Now, he may have not liked the results when using it on some of his guns, but it's not abrasive.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: OXCanada on August 29, 2017, 09:01 PM
Thanks gents!!  Appreciate the help.

I had never heard of brass wool before. Hopefully this rust will be a thing of the past for me.
Title: Re: Rust on OF 1010
Post by: Cheese on August 29, 2017, 11:10 PM
Thanks gents!!  Appreciate the help.

I had never heard of brass wool before.

Ahem...make that bronze wool...commonly used in the boat arena. The true boat builders still use tapered bronze screws because they are still the best to use in that application.  [big grin]

Some old time things just continue to make sense to employ.