Author Topic: After putting it off for four years I have finally picked up a Kapex  (Read 25792 times)

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Offline Shadytree

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I don't buy off on the whole we are woodworkers not machinist argument. That table is not very big, .010 is just sloppy workmanship.

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Offline neilc

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Shady -

Curious about your work and where you are working to tighter than 1/100 of an inch in wood.

Please share!

Offline Dovetail65

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I don't buy off on the whole we are woodworkers not machinist argument. That table is not very big, .010 is just sloppy workmanship.

Are you talking about the actual saw construction being sloppy or woodworking projects needing to be within .01 ?

I am  thinking you are referring to the actual table, that it needs to be within 1/100 or its sloppy manufacturing,  because we all know the stuff we make  out of wood is looking perfect if we can get to within 1/100 tolerances. Actually for things not glued it's all about even reveals more than trying to eliminate the gaps.

Our biggest battle is making things look good over time because wood movement is far more than .01 through seasonal changes.

I make inlays for a living and have done so for 11 years and I wouldn't claim precision to 1/100 and you can't see gaps in my work.
The one who says it can't be done should avoid interrupting the person doing it.

Offline jdw101

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@itchy, have you taken any feeler gauges and measured how unflat it is...

I just recently bought one, my table was not level. It was off by .012 on the left side. I sent it to festool service. When I got it back, it now has a .010 (I can easily see light under it) dish across the table instead. Festool says its within spec and told me to make test cuts. I did, my 2nd cut was slightly off. If the table was nice and flat, it would not have been off.

So I am left with accepting a sub par saw, or use the 30 day return policy and pay $70 to ship it back.  [mad]

For what that saw costs, I would send it back every time until I had the one I wanted.  I have a large Milwaukee compound miter that is HUGE and it doesn't have that problem and was around 700 all in.  I want the Kapex badly but I would need both to cut the bigger stuff.  But no point in not getting it how you want for that kind of dough!

Offline antss

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Guys - I think the complaint in general is that (we) expect more form a tool maker that has positioned itself as the uber, ne plus ultra of the tool and charges accordingly.

Features are nice, but fit and finish as well as longevity are a key component to the value proposition.  A fancy package and a fan boy site are all well and good. But if the tools have basically the same tolerances and lifespan as your average brand tool - then Festool becomes a case of the emperor's new clothes in which we're all getting hoodwinked. 

I also think that in light if Kapex's motor woes, Festool's lack of response to them, coupled with the high price makes for a high satisfaction bar to meet.  Fair or unfair as that may be.