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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2012, 02:33 PM » |
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I really wat my XL. Got a whole bunch of outdoor projects I want to use it on.  |
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Rembo
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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2012, 04:01 PM » |
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ohh, yeah! is an exceptional machine!
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Guy Ashley
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« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2012, 04:10 PM » |
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Had mine a couple of months now and it is a real game changer, up there with the OF2200 for build quality, precision and speed of operation. You chaps over the pond start saving your pennies, cents??  |
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« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2012, 07:01 PM » |
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Not sure why the focus on UL? In the US OSHA sets the regulations, and they have a list of what they call Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratories, of which UL is one choice. The German Technischer Überwachungsverein is on that list.
It wouldn't surprise me if the underwriter for product liability insurance that Festool USA uses requires UL approval. Specifically UL approval and not some other testing lab. |
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« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2012, 08:42 PM » |
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Not sure why the focus on UL? In the US OSHA sets the regulations, and they have a list of what they call Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratories, of which UL is one choice. The German Technischer Überwachungsverein is on that list.
It wouldn't surprise me if the underwriter for product liability insurance that Festool USA uses requires UL approval. Specifically UL approval and not some other testing lab. It seems Festool USA goes for the CSA most often, not UL. Maybe they require less of that grease Chris was talking about.  |
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« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2012, 09:37 PM » |
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Can someone tell me what the weight difference is between the Domino 500 and the new 700? I've been using my 500 for almost 4 years now but, as I approach 70 years old I want to make sure that I can heft the new machine for a few more years. I have no problem with the Domino 500 now and in the foreseeable future.
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« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2012, 10:21 PM » |
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Jack,
According to the Festool UK site and converting kg, the Xl weighs 11.46 lbs and the 500 weighs just over 7 lbs.
Peter
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The tools in my truck were talking the other day. The Dewalts, PC's, Boschs, Makitas were not happy. They also were in the minority. Their complaint: They felt unused and unappreciated since the Festools moved in. I guess the truth hurts.
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« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2012, 10:23 PM » |
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Jack,
According to the Festool UK site and converting kg, the Xl weighs 11.46 lbs and the 500 weighs just over 7 lbs.
Peter
Thanks Peter, I guess I have to take my weight lifting more serious! |
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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2012, 03:07 AM » |
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The XL does take a certain strength and endurance to operate, the 500 is piece of cake next to it. I'm a 27 year old farm boy and i am happy to have the muscle mass i have, the first couple mortises are easy but when your making like 40 mortises on a door, which isn't unusual then you feel the last ones. Though i wouldn't call it truly exhausting or painful.
just try lifting one a couple of times at the store using one hand only on the rear handle, the 500 is held at the center so it's balanced, the 700 is held at the rear like a watering can, it multiplies the weight considerably.
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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2012, 04:01 AM » |
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The XL does take a certain strength and endurance to operate, the 500 is piece of cake next to it. I'm a 27 year old farm boy and i am happy to have the muscle mass i have, the first couple mortises are easy but when your making like 40 mortises on a door, which isn't unusual then you feel the last ones. Though i wouldn't call it truly exhausting or painful.
just try lifting one a couple of times at the store using one hand only on the rear handle, the 500 is held at the center so it's balanced, the 700 is held at the rear like a watering can, it multiplies the weight considerably.
I was looking forward to picking up my 700 XL tomorrow ... now I'm starting to think I should get 2 ... I don't want my left and right arms to be as different as Roger Federer's  |
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Rembo
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« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2012, 02:11 PM » |
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The XL does take a certain strength and endurance to operate, the 500 is piece of cake next to it. I'm a 27 year old farm boy and i am happy to have the muscle mass i have, the first couple mortises are easy but when your making like 40 mortises on a door, which isn't unusual then you feel the last ones. Though i wouldn't call it truly exhausting or painful.
just try lifting one a couple of times at the store using one hand only on the rear handle, the 500 is held at the center so it's balanced, the 700 is held at the rear like a watering can, it multiplies the weight considerably.
I was looking forward to picking up my 700 XL tomorrow ... now I'm starting to think I should get 2 ... I don't want my left and right arms to be as different as Roger Federer's Yes, a few long the plant affects the immersion .. where XL is not included in the work .. but the button works, no problem! DF DF 500 and 700 are different mill for different tasks. I'm not going to bet on low-power cutter with a diameter of 89 mm, and a powerful 6 mm. everything is relative. I need the same two Domino. |
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Peter Parfitt
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« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2012, 11:14 AM » |
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The XL does take a certain strength and endurance to operate, the 500 is piece of cake next to it. I'm a 27 year old farm boy and i am happy to have the muscle mass i have, the first couple mortises are easy but when your making like 40 mortises on a door, which isn't unusual then you feel the last ones. Though i wouldn't call it truly exhausting or painful.
just try lifting one a couple of times at the store using one hand only on the rear handle, the 500 is held at the center so it's balanced, the 700 is held at the rear like a watering can, it multiplies the weight considerably.
Doing anything over and over again can be tiring but the XL is not that bad at all. I suffer from arthritic wrists yet have no problem handling the XL (or the OF2200). I have not done more than about 36 joints without a break and so might struggle if I had 50 doors to make - I hate production line work! Peter |
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Rembo
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« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2012, 03:04 PM » |
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The XL does take a certain strength and endurance to operate, the 500 is piece of cake next to it. I'm a 27 year old farm boy and i am happy to have the muscle mass i have, the first couple mortises are easy but when your making like 40 mortises on a door, which isn't unusual then you feel the last ones. Though i wouldn't call it truly exhausting or painful.
just try lifting one a couple of times at the store using one hand only on the rear handle, the 500 is held at the center so it's balanced, the 700 is held at the rear like a watering can, it multiplies the weight considerably.
Doing anything over and over again can be tiring but the XL is not that bad at all. I suffer from arthritic wrists yet have no problem handling the XL (or the OF2200). I have not done more than about 36 joints without a break and so might struggle if I had 50 doors to make - I hate production line work! Peter as if it did not sound ridiculous. Domino makes the production line! I made more than 2000 slots Fraser XL and think 10 times more Fraser DF500. I submit further work without Domino? I think not. |
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Rembo
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« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2012, 02:18 PM » |
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The XL does take a certain strength and endurance to operate, the 500 is piece of cake next to it. I'm a 27 year old farm boy and i am happy to have the muscle mass i have, the first couple mortises are easy but when your making like 40 mortises on a door, which isn't unusual then you feel the last ones. Though i wouldn't call it truly exhausting or painful.
just try lifting one a couple of times at the store using one hand only on the rear handle, the 500 is held at the center so it's balanced, the 700 is held at the rear like a watering can, it multiplies the weight considerably.
I was looking forward to picking up my 700 XL tomorrow ... now I'm starting to think I should get 2 ... I don't want my left and right arms to be as different as Roger Federer's Yes, a few long the plant affects the immersion .. where XL is not included in the work .. but the button works, no problem! DF DF 500 and 700 are different mill for different tasks. I'm not going to bet on low-power cutter with a diameter of 89 mm, and a powerful 6 mm. everything is relative. I need the same two Domino. and still had to grease the rails today, mill oil for sewing machines. Now is another matter! until it was tight immersion. |
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