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Offline Frank Pellow

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both mains and battery powered) - Comparisons
« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2013, 02:04 PM »
Frank or others, what is your experience with the Carvex's dust collection using the guide rail base either on the tracks or for the circle cutter?   There has been some discussion in other threads about the dust collection port not fitting well on that base implying dust collection does not work well or as well as the 90degree base...thx

I haven't got a Festool vac handy right now so can't check.  I will do so in a day or so.

I can tell you that the dust collection part does fit well on base in question.  If anything, the mouth of the attachment is closer to the blade on the track/circle base than it is on the standard base.  Here is a photo:

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Offline hemlock

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both mains and battery powered) - Comparisons
« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2013, 02:16 PM »
Frank or others, what is your experience with the Carvex's dust collection using the guide rail base either on the tracks or for the circle cutter?   There has been some discussion in other threads about the dust collection port not fitting well on that base implying dust collection does not work well or as well as the 90degree base...thx

I haven't got a Festool vac handy right now so can't check.  I will do so in a day or so.

I can tell you that the dust collection part does fit well on base in question.  If anything, the mouth of the attachment is closer to the blade on the track/circle base than it is on the standard base.  Here is a photo:

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Excellent, Frank!   There is thread on Ask Festool that is confusing, as it implied otherwise, that you seem to have clarified.   I guess like the saw, I need to go look and buy to find out for myself  [big grin]

Offline ScotF

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both mains and battery powered) - Comparisons
« Reply #92 on: September 14, 2013, 03:55 PM »
thanks Frank - looking like the Carvex is looking better and better [eek]

Yes it is.   [smile] 

The Bosch is also looking better and better.  I purchased it, just to do these comparison tests and planned to sell it right away.  Now, I think that I will probably keep the Bosch as well as the battery powered Carvex.

I have the same Bosch and I just got the circle cutter/straight-edge for it from Amazon.  To my surprise it also has a groove to allow it to be used on Festool's guide-rail, which is a nice bonus.  I like the Bosch and it works really well with Carvex blades or Trion blades.  I find I have trouble getting perfectly square cuts with thinner Bosch blades.  Could be technique, but my only complaint with the saw so far is getting it to cut 100% perpendicular.  The Festool jigsaws do so right out of the box and with different blades.

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both mains and battery powered) - Comparisons
« Reply #93 on: September 14, 2013, 04:20 PM »
Frank, I only just came across this review/report.  I have not read all of the replies, and probably won't finish for another few days; but you have done an excellent job.  I like the way you include real project type demos in your reports. 

I only tried the Carvex one time along with several other WW'ers and for me, it seemed rather clumsy as i could not get a full grip on the barrel.  I can with my Trion.  Your report, and some of the replies seem to indicate that I am not alone. 

I will continue reading on sometime tomorrow when i get tired of working on my LS equipment.  This time of year, I have to squeeze i WW'ing interests here and there as i can sneak in the time.  From what i read so far, i am thinking i will get tired of the LS equipment sooner than later.
Just a really fine job.
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Offline Frank Pellow

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both mains and battery powered) - Comparisons
« Reply #94 on: September 15, 2013, 07:24 PM »
Frank or others, what is your experience with the Carvex's dust collection using the guide rail base either on the tracks or for the circle cutter?   There has been some discussion in other threads about the dust collection port not fitting well on that base implying dust collection does not work well or as well as the 90degree base...thx

I haven't got a Festool vac handy right now so can't check.  I will do so in a day or so.

I can tell you that the dust collection part does fit well on base in question.  If anything, the mouth of the attachment is closer to the blade on the track/circle base than it is on the standard base.  Here is a photo:

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Now that I have a Festool vac back in my workshed, I was able to test the dust collection of the Carvex on a rail.

I chose to rip a 120 cm long kerf in 35 mm thick spruce.  At least 95 percent of the dust was picked up.  

Here are a couple of photos:

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I also tried some crosscuts and the dust collection was just as good.
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Offline Frank Pellow

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both mains and battery powered) - Comparisons
« Reply #95 on: September 17, 2013, 08:00 AM »
Frank, I only just came across this review/report.  I have not read all of the replies, and probably won't finish for another few days; but you have done an excellent job.  I like the way you include real project type demos in your reports

...

Just a really fine job.

Tinker

Thanks Tinker.  When I test tools, the most important customer that I am testing those tools for is me.  So, I need to test them with tasks that I really do.  It's as simple as that.
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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both mains and battery powered) - Comparisons
« Reply #96 on: September 17, 2013, 08:20 AM »
This thread was helpful. Thanks Frank and everyone else. Yesterday, I ordered the Carvex.  I went with the corded model because my work is indoors and the vac hose will be hooked up to saw anyway.

Offline Paul G

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both mains and battery powered) - Comparisons
« Reply #97 on: September 17, 2013, 09:58 AM »
Slightly off topic but this is the first time I've heard a corded tool referred to as a main, is that common language in parts other than here?
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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both mains and battery powered) - Comparisons
« Reply #98 on: September 17, 2013, 10:09 AM »
Slightly off topic but this is the first time I've heard a corded tool referred to as a main, is that common language in parts other than here?

Referring to electricity that comes into a building from the "grid" as being from "the mains" is part of my vocabulary but, now that you question it, I realize that is a term that I picked up when I lived in the United Kingdom.  I guess that it is not in common use in North America.

In that I have lived and worked in the United Kingdom, in the USA, and in different regions of Canada, I find that I frequently use terms that are not familiar to the folks I am speaking to.   [embarassed]

I guess that I should change the title of the thread to refer to "corded "and "battery".
« Last Edit: September 17, 2013, 11:20 AM by Frank Pellow »
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both mains and battery powered) - Comparisons
« Reply #99 on: September 17, 2013, 10:22 AM »
Slightly off topic but this is the first time I've heard a corded tool referred to as a main, is that common language in parts other than here?

Referring to electricity that comes into a building from the "grid" as being from "the mains" is part of my vocabulary but, now that you question it, I realize that is a term that I picked up when I lived in the United Kingdom.  I guess that it is not in common use in North America.

In that I have lived in the United Kingdom, in the USA, and in different regions of Canada, I find that I frequently use terms that are not familiar to the folks I am speaking to.   [embarassed]

I guess that I should change the title of the thread to refer to "corded "and "battery".

If you think about it "corded" is weird too. "Electric powered" and "battery powered", but the battery powered saw is also electric.
The simpler, "jigsaw" and "cordless jigsaw" are are as concise as I can formulate.

Offline Paul G

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both mains and battery powered) - Comparisons
« Reply #100 on: September 17, 2013, 10:41 AM »
Slightly off topic but this is the first time I've heard a corded tool referred to as a main, is that common language in parts other than here?

Referring to electricity that comes into a building from the "grid" as being from "the mains" is part of my vocabulary but, now that you question it, I realize that is a term that I picked up when I lived in the United Kingdom.  I guess that it is not in common use in North America.

In that I have lived in the United Kingdom, in the USA, and in different regions of Canada, I find that I frequently use terms that are not familiar to the folks I am speaking to.   [embarassed]

I guess that I should change the title of the thread to refer to "corded "and "battery".

Thanks for explaining the word origin. I don't mind it one bit, it's an opportunity to learn something new.
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Offline Frank Pellow

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #101 on: September 18, 2013, 07:53 PM »
OK, I have more or less wrapped up testing of these saws.  

In the interest of fill disclosure, Festool generously let me keep the Carvex that I preferred.  I kept the battery power model and returned the mains powered one.

The Trion which has been a dependable and much used tool for almost two years is now for sale has now been sold and I will no longer be using it.

I am keeping the Bosch.

I can still do so testing if you have other tasks to suggest, but I can no longer do them with all four saws.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2013, 08:47 PM by Frank Pellow »
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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #102 on: September 24, 2013, 10:24 PM »
I gave the Carvex battery powered jigsaw an extensive workout today -as is described in the thread: http://festoolownersgroup.com/member-projects/cactus-coat-rack/msg277664/?topicseen#msg277664

As I reported in that thread, I needed to re-charge the battery 5 times.  It is obvious that at least two batteries will be needed if one plans to use the saw on tasks like this.  In spite of this obvious fact, Festool only supplies one 18 volt battery with the saw.    [huh]    ???  When I decided to keep the saw that I had been allowed to test, the first thing that I did was to purchase a second battery.  The job would have been intolerable if I had not done so.  As it was, the battery being used almost continuously wore out long before the other battery was re-charged.  Perhaps, I need to purchase a third battery.   [unsure]  I used the lack of a charged battery as an excuse to goof off for a while, but I am retired and can afford to do this.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2013, 07:56 AM by Frank Pellow »
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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #103 on: September 27, 2013, 09:30 AM »
This morning, I did a follow-up test to determine just how long a battery under load would last.  I used scraps left over from my Cactus coat rack (see the thread: http://festoolownersgroup.com/member-projects/cactus-coat-rack/msg277664/?topicseen#msg277664):

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With a fully charged 18 volt battery, the saw set at A speed, the light off, and using a fast scrolling blade, I ran two tests.  In the first test, I managed to cut for 14 minutes.  In the second, the saw cut for 16 minutes.

These times were less than I had expected.  [sad]
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Offline fdengel

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #104 on: September 27, 2013, 09:42 AM »
I'm in the states and have heard "mains" being used in the above suggested way numerous times in the past.  Can't speak to how common it is everywhere or remember specifically where I've heard it, but it wouldn't have stood out to me as being completely foreign either.

It always bothers me when people use "electric" to distinguish from battery-powered as they are in fact the same thing... "corded" seems to be the favored term these days, and seems completely reasonable.

I guess both the corded and battery-powered Carvex can be "hosed"...   [laughing]

Offline ScotF

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #105 on: September 27, 2013, 11:06 AM »
This morning, I did a follow-up test to determine just how long a battery under load would last.  I used scraps left over from my Cactus coat rack (see the thread: http://festoolownersgroup.com/member-projects/cactus-coat-rack/msg277664/?topicseen#msg277664):

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With a fully charged 18 volt battery, the saw set at A speed, the light off, and using a fast scrolling blade, I ran two tests.  In the first test, I managed to cut for 14 minutes.  In the second, the saw cut for 16 minutes.

These times were less than I had expected.  [sad]

Frank -- if you measured the length of each cut how many lineal feet of cutting would you estimate you cut on a charge?  I think that Steve Bace mentions it in one of the Carvex videos and I want to say, could be wrong here, but that it was 160 - 170 lineal feet or so.  I could see where the need for multiple batteries would be really important if using it for an extended session.  I guess I am happy that I opted for the corded version -- which for me works since I rarely need to cut anything outside of my shop.  Thanks for posting the update.   

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #106 on: September 27, 2013, 11:27 AM »

Frank -- if you measured the length of each cut how many lineal feet of cutting would you estimate you cut on a charge?  I think that Steve Bace mentions it in one of the Carvex videos and I want to say, could be wrong here, but that it was 160 - 170 lineal feet or so.  I could see where the need for multiple batteries would be really important if using it for an extended session.  I guess I am happy that I opted for the corded version -- which for me works since I rarely need to cut anything outside of my shop.  Thanks for posting the update.    

Scot, I didn't actually measure the distance I cut but my guess would be about 15 metres.  So, that is a lot less than what you recall Steve saying.  

Of course the material being cut would effect the distance.  In my case, the material being I cut was 18 mm thick Baltic birch plywood.

I will eventually test distances in different types of material and report the results in this thread.  I don't know why I didn't think of doing so earlier.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2013, 11:35 AM by Frank Pellow »
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Offline Tinker

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #107 on: September 29, 2013, 09:31 AM »

Frank -- if you measured the length of each cut how many lineal feet of cutting would you estimate you cut on a charge?  I think that Steve Bace mentions it in one of the Carvex videos and I want to say, could be wrong here, but that it was 160 - 170 lineal feet or so.  I could see where the need for multiple batteries would be really important if using it for an extended session.  I guess I am happy that I opted for the corded version -- which for me works since I rarely need to cut anything outside of my shop.  Thanks for posting the update.    

Scot, I didn't actually measure the distance I cut but my guess would be about 15 metres.  So, that is a lot less than what you recall Steve saying.  

Of course the material being cut would effect the distance.  In my case, the material being I cut was 18 mm thick Baltic birch plywood.

I will eventually test distances in different types of material and report the results in this thread.  I don't know why I didn't think of doing so earlier.

Frank,
How could you? [poke]
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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #108 on: September 30, 2013, 02:41 AM »
Am I the only one who finds the inability it cut an angle with both the circle cutter and the track guide annoying? I can due it with my old Festool jig saw but not the new one.:( I guess the need to cut an angled radius or a beveled strait cut no longer are needed. I am glad I did not get rid of my old one when I got the new one. Is any one else curious about this?

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #109 on: September 30, 2013, 08:00 AM »
Am I the only one who finds the inability it cut an angle with both the circle cutter and the track guide annoying? I can due it with my old Festool jig saw but not the new one.:( I guess the need to cut an angled radius or a beveled strait cut no longer are needed. I am glad I did not get rid of my old one when I got the new one. Is any one else curious about this?

I do find this annoying but not insermountable.  As I demonstrated in reply #78 in this thread, such tasks can be accomplished in two passes.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2013, 08:14 AM by Frank Pellow »
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Offline Paul G

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #110 on: September 30, 2013, 09:20 AM »
Am I the only one who finds the inability it cut an angle with both the circle cutter and the track guide annoying? I can due it with my old Festool jig saw but not the new one.:( I guess the need to cut an angled radius or a beveled strait cut no longer are needed. I am glad I did not get rid of my old one when I got the new one. Is any one else curious about this?

I do find this annoying but not insermountable.  As I demonstrated in reply #78 in this thread, such tasks can be accomplished in two passes.

That technique only works if the finish edge is convex correct?
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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #111 on: September 30, 2013, 01:42 PM »
Am I the only one who finds the inability it cut an angle with both the circle cutter and the track guide annoying? I can due it with my old Festool jig saw but not the new one.:( I guess the need to cut an angled radius or a beveled strait cut no longer are needed. I am glad I did not get rid of my old one when I got the new one. Is any one else curious about this?

I do find this annoying but not insermountable.  As I demonstrated in reply #78 in this thread, such tasks can be accomplished in two passes.

That technique only works if the finish edge is convex correct?

It can be very slightly concave but, for the most part, you are correct.
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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #112 on: September 30, 2013, 04:12 PM »
I'm a Carvex 420 user, I got the 15v 3mAh model to save money with the intention of getting a drill with the new 18v 4.2mAh batteries. IMO that's the smartest way to upgrade your battery park. Then each additional battery spreads out the cost of having cordless tools in mulitple, with say four batteries for two tools you can always be charging 2 of them in a Jigsaw session then say one in use one on standby, and two in the chargers...

I just love using a jigsaw without a cable for outdoor work, it's the one tool that benefits the most from being freed from it's cable from a egronomics point of view.. Of course this only if you don't us Dust extraction..
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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #113 on: October 01, 2013, 02:04 AM »
I have reread post 78. I do. It think that technique will give the same quality of cut as a single pass guide created cut. While you suggest a plausible solution, I think it is still a design short coming that should not exist for a tool company that produces tools of this quality.

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #114 on: October 01, 2013, 09:13 AM »
I have reread post 78. I do. It think that technique will give the same quality of cut as a single pass guide created cut. While you suggest a plausible solution, I think it is still a design short coming that should not exist for a tool company that produces tools of this quality.

I agree with your statement that I have marked in bold.  [sad]

I wonder if we will see after market bases to solve these problems?  ???  I am thinking of a couple of designs that might work and might experiment with them sometime down the road -not to manuafacture but just to see if I can do it for my own use.
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Offline ScotF

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #115 on: October 02, 2013, 01:50 PM »
I have reread post 78. I do. It think that technique will give the same quality of cut as a single pass guide created cut. While you suggest a plausible solution, I think it is still a design short coming that should not exist for a tool company that produces tools of this quality.

I agree with your statement that I have marked in bold.  [sad]

I wonder if we will see after market bases to solve these problems?  ???  I am thinking of a couple of designs that might work and might experiment with them sometime down the road -not to manuafacture but just to see if I can do it for my own use.

Yes...this is a short coming for this application.  I think one type of cut is easy to do with a simple plate screwed to the angle base, but for circles it is an issue for sure and it would require a new style base.  Maybe the plate could easily adapt the clips of the circle cutter.  I am going to have to play around with this...

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #116 on: October 13, 2013, 12:21 PM »

Frank -- if you measured the length of each cut how many lineal feet of cutting would you estimate you cut on a charge?  I think that Steve Bace mentions it in one of the Carvex videos and I want to say, could be wrong here, but that it was 160 - 170 lineal feet or so.  I could see where the need for multiple batteries would be really important if using it for an extended session.  I guess I am happy that I opted for the corded version -- which for me works since I rarely need to cut anything outside of my shop.  Thanks for posting the update.    

Scot, I didn't actually measure the distance I cut but my guess would be about 15 metres.  So, that is a lot less than what you recall Steve saying.  

Of course the material being cut would effect the distance.  In my case, the material being I cut was 18 mm thick Baltic birch plywood.

I will eventually test distances in different types of material and report the results in this thread.  I don't know why I didn't think of doing so earlier.

I did do the some tests but decided to report them in a separate thread.  That thread is: http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tool-reviews/battery-(18-volt)-carvex-420-distance-tests-in-many-types-of-wood/#new
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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #117 on: February 07, 2014, 09:14 PM »

Even after 8 months of frequent use, I still don't like the position of the switches nor the fact that one pushes forward on a switch in order to turn it off.

When I first tried the saw, I commented:

  • I am used to operating the trigger with my thumb and this is not easily done now that the switches are so far forward.  I expect that I will get used to operating the switch with a finger, but that is going to take me some time.  The new position of the switch would take some getting used to.  


After using it for about a month, I said:

  • Another difference from my other Festool tools is that one pushes on the switch again to shut off the Carvex saws rather than pull back on the switch.  Today, I had an experience that warned me to get use to it soon.  I needed to shut off the saw quickly but it took me about 5 second to locate the switch.  All that happened as a result of this delay was a somewhat screwed up cut, but it could have been much worse.  

I really did think I would get accustomed to the strange location and operation of the switch but this is not happening.  That's a shame because, otherwise, I love the saw.

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #118 on: February 08, 2014, 05:02 AM »

Even after 8 months of frequent use, I still don't like the position of the switches nor the fact that one pushes forward on a switch in order to turn it off.

When I first tried the saw, I commented:

  • I am used to operating the trigger with my thumb and this is not easily done now that the switches are so far forward.  I expect that I will get used to operating the switch with a finger, but that is going to take me some time.  The new position of the switch would take some getting used to.  


After using it for about a month, I said:

  • Another difference from my other Festool tools is that one pushes on the switch again to shut off the Carvex saws rather than pull back on the switch.  Today, I had an experience that warned me to get use to it soon.  I needed to shut off the saw quickly but it took me about 5 second to locate the switch.  All that happened as a result of this delay was a somewhat screwed up cut, but it could have been much worse.  

I really did think I would get accustomed to the strange location and operation of the switch but this is not happening.  That's a shame because, otherwise, I love the saw.



I totally agree! 

Thing is I am accustomed to the switch but in situations where you suddenly need to switch the Carvex of because you hit something making your carvex bounce no mater how accustomed you are you ain't finding the switch very fast!

What I have starting doing now is just quickly pull the jigsaw away from the work piece as soon as something like this happens.

Jmb
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Offline Jason Kehl

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Re: Festool Carvex 420 (both corded & battery) - Comparisons
« Reply #119 on: February 08, 2014, 07:46 AM »
Perhaps I missed it if someone adresses this already, but for the Carvex 420 users; how effective are the improvments to cut-line visibility over the Trion?  I do a wide variety of carpentry work and one use is to cut holes in 1.5" thick green treated decking where the deck newel posts go. Will I be able to see the cut-line with no vac attached to pull the dust away? Does visibility depend on the use, or lack of use of the splinter guard?

Thanks guys

J