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Offline iphacou

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festool domino and long seam corian
« on: February 02, 2016, 03:21 PM »
any thoughts as to the possibility of using the festool domino to help with vertical top alignment in long run seams of 1/2 inch corian using domi plate attachment?

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Offline Holmz

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2016, 02:55 AM »
Do you already have the domino?

My Zeta P2 was acquired with the diamond cutter.
One could attached the halves permanently or with a clampX.

The other choices are doweling system and regular biscuits.

Offline jdm5

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2017, 09:16 PM »
Bumping this - a friend was asking for a contemporary shelving unit using Corian shelving - has anyone used the Domino to mortise Corian?  I haven’t worked with it.
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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2017, 09:20 PM »
Don't insert any device into the solid surface materials. Murphy's law says an item falling will strike the spot the device is inserted and break the face off of the solid surface material. [eek]

Explain why you want to mortice the Corian please?

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Offline jdm5

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2017, 09:48 PM »
Friend saw attached - asked if I could build it.

Thought Corian or similiar might be good for the shelves - crazy?
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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2017, 09:52 PM »
I'd notch the uprights and inset the shelves.

I'll think on how to attach them or what product to use.

Tom

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2017, 10:09 PM »
I ask the counter fitters which cutter to use for Corian and they told me carbide.


Offline tjbnwi

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2017, 10:11 PM »
Thinking about how to attach the material to the uprights.

On the bottom, I'd drill straight up and attach the plate with 2 or 3 screws, flip the unit, drill up at a slight angle on the other shelves, counter sink, screws into the uprights from the bottom.

Tom

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2017, 10:13 PM »
I ask the counter fitters which cutter to use for Corian and they told me carbide.

Carbide works well, saw blades should have the proper rake angle and tooth geometry for solid surface material.

Tom

Offline Naildrivingman

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2017, 07:32 AM »
I think more than a mechanical connection (screws).  Dado/rabbet + suitable mechanical fasteners (3M makes some really awesome and versatile adhesives).
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Offline mike_aa

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2017, 11:18 AM »
What about using Dominofix fittings?  Or would they have the same problem Tom mentioned?  @tjbnwi

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2017, 12:54 PM »
I think more than a mechanical connection (screws).  Dado/rabbet + suitable mechanical fasteners (3M makes some really awesome and versatile adhesives).

I was thinking of suggesting VHB or UHB.

There is a member here who’s specialty is plastics. Hopefully they see this thread.

I’m thinking the shelves should be more of a softer polyester. I have polyester plate I use to make cutting boards.

Tom

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2017, 06:46 PM »
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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2017, 06:51 PM »
I think more than a mechanical connection (screws).  Dado/rabbet + suitable mechanical fasteners (3M makes some really awesome and versatile adhesives).

I was thinking of suggesting VHB or UHB.

There is a member here who’s specialty is plastics. Hopefully they see this thread.

I’m thinking the shelves should be more of a softer polyester. I have polyester plate I use to make cutting boards.

Tom
Not familiar with UHB/VHB, but anything that can be fastened with screws and accepts such fasteners like wood, should be considered.  I still feel that ultimate support strength falls into the dado/rabbet primary physical connection category.
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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2017, 07:24 PM »
I think more than a mechanical connection (screws).  Dado/rabbet + suitable mechanical fasteners (3M makes some really awesome and versatile adhesives).

I was thinking of suggesting VHB or UHB.

There is a member here who’s specialty is plastics. Hopefully they see this thread.

I’m thinking the shelves should be more of a softer polyester. I have polyester plate I use to make cutting boards.

Tom
Not familiar with UHB/VHB, but anything that can be fastened with screws and accepts such fasteners like wood, should be considered.  I still feel that ultimate support strength falls into the dado/rabbet primary physical connection category.

UHB is 3M Ultra High Bond Tape, VHB is 3M Very High Bond Tape. They are 2 sided tapes that are very aggressive and strong.

Tom

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2017, 11:57 PM »
If this were my science project...I'd consider small diameter stainless dowel pins epoxied into the Corian and wooden uprights. The problem with the Domino approach (even though the cutters would work) is that you're removing too much material from the Corian.

This piece is designed to be used as an accent piece and is certainly not a bookshelf that will support 100's of pounds of items. This is just conjecture, but I'd assume there'd be less than 15# of stuff on each shelf.

If the Corian used is 1/2" material, which it appears to be, I'd use 1/8" or 3/16" diameter pins. This leaves a lot of material to remain in the Corian so that its strength is not compromised. Shear strength on a 3/16" dowel pin is around 3000#, I'd guess a 1/8" diameter pin would be about half of that.

Dowel pins would be easy to locate in the middle of the Corian thickness...thinking about this a little more, you could probably get by with using 3/32" pins. The best approach is to purchase some scraps and experiment. You may find that the Achilles heal is actually the wooden supports. [big grin]


Offline antss

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2017, 06:53 PM »
I disagree with some of you on the thickness.

Those shelves look to be 3/4" to me.  I wouldn't even attempt that design with 1/2" thick shelves, especially in Corian.  You're asking for them to sag.

Besides , that looks like a European design , and they are not fond of 13mm.  We see that thickness on side and end panels , but not for shelves.


Offline Job and Knock

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2017, 07:13 PM »
I disagree with some of you on the thickness.

Those shelves look to be 3/4" to me.  I wouldn't even attempt that design with 1/2" thick shelves, especially in Corian.  You're asking for them to sag.
They might be fabricated to have a side height of 19 or 20mm, but the maximum thickness of Corian you can buy is 12mm, isn't it?
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Offline antss

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2017, 07:59 PM »
^^^^

No, Corian is available in 19mm thickness.

Offline Distinctive Interiors

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2017, 03:55 AM »
^^^^

No, Corian is available in 19mm thickness.

It is, Yes.......But only in Glacier White in the UK...! don't know about the US.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2017, 04:03 AM by Distinctive Interiors »

Offline jdm5

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2017, 09:35 AM »
Anyone have a source for 3/4 white corian in the Northeast US?  (I’ll also try local cabinet makers)

As the (off topic) poster I appreciate everyone’s input!

Any suggestions for a material not solid surface?  This is intended to be a higher end piece, so loath to consider MDF painted white.  But I guess I could find a nice contrasting wood - maybe something more exotic.
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Offline antss

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Re: festool domino and long seam corian
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2017, 10:55 AM »
Why the MDF loathing ?

Looks like a European design , Italian if I had to guess, and they have zero qualms about lacquering MDF for that look.

Some might say that Corian is lowbrow material, being it's plastic like nature and not having been in vogue since the early 90's.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2017, 10:59 AM by antss »