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« on: May 08, 2012, 09:06 PM » |
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well today I took the time to video myself and my assistant using the syslite in real life applications so you can see for yourselves how useful this light can be for you.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 10:40 PM » |
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Kreg, looks great for electicians and plumbers, most of which use really crappy tools, but what I would liked to have seen was the same technology in a light that attached to the back of the Kapex and wrapped around to iluminate the cutting area. Be great for all those dimly lit garages. Probably fit it in a Mini Sys. Maybe they will give me a free one for thinking up this idea? Eric
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2012, 11:48 PM » |
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Kreg,
Why do think that's too much spray foam under the roof? I don't see anything wrong with that. You have no business being up in the attic. Get down and help Regina! BTW, what was that hand sticking up from the dirt in the crawl space. Probably wouldn't have noticed it if not for the bright light of the Syslite.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 12:34 AM » |
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BTW, what was that hand sticking up from the dirt in the crawl space.
Did Kreg just find Jimmy Hoffa? |
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honeydokreg
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 05:50 AM » |
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Ken, I have been in many of attics and have never seen spray foam sprayed under the roof like that it looked like the moon surface....
the hand was left over from the plumber who did not have the proper lighting and cut it off with the sawzall !!
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 10:32 AM » |
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I'll defer to you contractors -- when I built my house I talked with many pros at that time that strongly advised that there needs to be an air gap between the insulation and the "cold" side (roof). They pointed to a problem many cathedral ceilings have with moisture condensation and ice build up. My house is a conventional hip roof built with trusses and I installed the 12" of insulation in the ceiling joists -- never any problem with ice build up, etc. Kreg, Please LAY OFF the syslite demos -- I've now increased my order to two (2) from at first not thinking that I needed any!!!  Fiberglass insulation installed in rafter bays must have an air gap, typically provided by the chutes. Spray foam is allowed to be applied directly to the underside of the roof with no air gap. I've seen chutes used with the foam as well. It's one of those struggles to get building science, building codes and construction practices to reach definitive conclusions. I recently read a good article on air circulation in and around the roof system/attic. Ridge vents, soffit vents, gable end vents, nothing stored inside of an attic and no living space in the attic. There were a number of theories and scientific ideas posed. We'll probably solve the TS 55 vs. TS 75 and ETS 150/3 vs. ETS 150/5 debate before they do. Now back to the SysLite. |
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 12:07 PM » |
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I'll defer to you contractors -- when I built my house I talked with many pros at that time that strongly advised that there needs to be an air gap between the insulation and the "cold" side (roof). They pointed to a problem many cathedral ceilings have with moisture condensation and ice build up. My house is a conventional hip roof built with trusses and I installed the 12" of insulation in the ceiling joists -- never any problem with ice build up, etc. Kreg, Please LAY OFF the syslite demos -- I've now increased my order to two (2) from at first not thinking that I needed any!!! I can confirm that... my moms house was built like that with cathedral ceilings (i.e., no space between drywall, insulation, and roof sheeting) and she had areas where the roof sheeting had dry rotted away due to moisture buildup. For our house, we used the sheeting with a foil backing, installed in the inside of the roof. Keeps heat from building up in the attic and it's noticeably cooler in the attic space. Just kills me to think of all the wasted space up in those trusses.... As for the syslite, well, seems cool. But I have a backpacking headlamp with a retractable string headband. Led lights, and I just put it on my forehead and I have good light everywhere I look. Cost was $30.... |
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 01:35 PM » |
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I'll defer to you contractors -- when I built my house I talked with many pros at that time that strongly advised that there needs to be an air gap between the insulation and the "cold" side (roof). They pointed to a problem many cathedral ceilings have with moisture condensation and ice build up. My house is a conventional hip roof built with trusses and I installed the 12" of insulation in the ceiling joists -- never any problem with ice build up, etc. Kreg, Please LAY OFF the syslite demos -- I've now increased my order to two (2) from at first not thinking that I needed any!!! I can confirm that... my moms house was built like that with cathedral ceilings (i.e., no space between drywall, insulation, and roof sheeting) and she had areas where the roof sheeting had dry rotted away due to moisture buildup. For our house, we used the sheeting with a foil backing, installed in the inside of the roof. Keeps heat from building up in the attic and it's noticeably cooler in the attic space. Just kills me to think of all the wasted space up in those trusses.... As for the syslite, well, seems cool. But I have a backpacking headlamp with a retractable string headband. Led lights, and I just put it on my forehead and I have good light everywhere I look. Cost was $30.... I got a Petzl head lamp pretty bright but I much prefer my Festool Syslites I just tend to get them out of my van instead of my headlamp. I think you do need two if any one is thinking of buying 1! Either to give you even more light in a room and by having them on opposite sides of the room eliminates shadows.If you working in two rooms cutting room and fitting room. I was fitting a kitchen at night and having the two syslites was lovely to work in! I have fitted a kitchen in the dark with a head lamp before not as much fun. Having the room lit up like its daylight with TWO syslites is much preferred I have had them since they where released in the UK and love them. They are bright for what they are!!! The internal battery isn't great to be honest only usefull for a quick job or a quick look around. If you was to hang it up and wanted to work for a bit in a room or loft the battery is dead before you know it! BUT being able to stick an external festool battery 14.4/18v is brilliant you can have one on charge and just keep swapping round the battery life with an external batterie is much longer and more usefull! but like in honeydokreg video if you have a power supply near by you can plug it in to have it running all day long! Its a brilliant all round light. JMB I did post a video on Fog a while I go I think cant find it though. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 04:16 PM » |
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I'll defer to you contractors -- when I built my house I talked with many pros at that time that strongly advised that there needs to be an air gap between the insulation and the "cold" side (roof). They pointed to a problem many cathedral ceilings have with moisture condensation and ice build up. My house is a conventional hip roof built with trusses and I installed the 12" of insulation in the ceiling joists -- never any problem with ice build up, etc. Kreg, Please LAY OFF the syslite demos -- I've now increased my order to two (2) from at first not thinking that I needed any!!! Well I was going to do a third one and take it to the moon and see if I can light up the dark side of the moon........ |
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 06:03 PM » |
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I'll defer to you contractors -- when I built my house I talked with many pros at that time that strongly advised that there needs to be an air gap between the insulation and the "cold" side (roof). They pointed to a problem many cathedral ceilings have with moisture condensation and ice build up. My house is a conventional hip roof built with trusses and I installed the 12" of insulation in the ceiling joists -- never any problem with ice build up, etc. Kreg, Please LAY OFF the syslite demos -- I've now increased my order to two (2) from at first not thinking that I needed any!!! I can confirm that... my moms house was built like that with cathedral ceilings (i.e., no space between drywall, insulation, and roof sheeting) and she had areas where the roof sheeting had dry rotted away due to moisture buildup. For our house, we used the sheeting with a foil backing, installed in the inside of the roof. Keeps heat from building up in the attic and it's noticeably cooler in the attic space. Just kills me to think of all the wasted space up in those trusses.... As for the syslite, well, seems cool. But I have a backpacking headlamp with a retractable string headband. Led lights, and I just put it on my forehead and I have good light everywhere I look. Cost was $30.... I got a Petzl head lamp pretty bright but I much prefer my Festool Syslites I just tend to get them out of my van instead of my headlamp. I think you do need two if any one is thinking of buying 1! Either to give you even more light in a room and by having them on opposite sides of the room eliminates shadows.If you working in two rooms cutting room and fitting room. I was fitting a kitchen at night and having the two syslites was lovely to work in! I have fitted a kitchen in the dark with a head lamp before not as much fun. Having the room lit up like its daylight with TWO syslites is much preferred I have had them since they where released in the UK and love them. They are bright for what they are!!! The internal battery isn't great to be honest only usefull for a quick job or a quick look around. If you was to hang it up and wanted to work for a bit in a room or loft the battery is dead before you know it! BUT being able to stick an external festool battery 14.4/18v is brilliant you can have one on charge and just keep swapping round the battery life with an external batterie is much longer and more usefull! but like in honeydokreg video if you have a power supply near by you can plug it in to have it running all day long! Its a brilliant all round light. JMB I did post a video on Fog a while I go I think cant find it though. In other words Ron, hope you remembered to order some more batteries too!  |
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2012, 06:22 PM » |
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Ron,
Hope you get your Syslites soon as we'll need a tool mount and guide rail mount designed for them. Maybe a quick clamp adapter too?
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2012, 10:08 AM » |
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up date on light... I have been using the light now for more than 30 days and really enjoy using it and have for many applications... one for example I had to cut a small hole in the drywall to see where wire was to feed hdmi cables through wall behind fireplace opening... cut a small hole in wall and hung the light with hook on the drywall and hung it inside the opening... now if I had used a flashlight I would have to cut a bigger opening for my hand, flashlight and my eyes to see in.. this light was the perfect solution for this ..
been under several sinks and it was nice no heat... !!!
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2012, 02:42 PM » |
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up date on light... I have been using the light now for more than 30 days and really enjoy using it and have for many applications... one for example I had to cut a small hole in the drywall to see where wire was to feed hdmi cables through wall behind fireplace opening... cut a small hole in wall and hung the light with hook on the drywall and hung it inside the opening... now if I had used a flashlight I would have to cut a bigger opening for my hand, flashlight and my eyes to see in.. this light was the perfect solution for this ..
been under several sinks and it was nice no heat... !!!
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2012, 09:12 PM » |
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Syslite real life situations so far; Illuminated the confined space under my kitchen sink when my wife informed me of a plumbing problem (nice to see what's going on), shallow lighting to allow accurate drilling for Brusso Shelf Pin sockets, shallow lighting for marking knife marks for Brusso butt hinges, and the adventure begins |
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2012, 09:08 AM » |
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Yep it works great and builder bob. Maybe I will get one for her
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