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Offline Jozsef Kozma

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #120 on: November 29, 2015, 04:04 PM »
I have not used it on treated lumber, but on
Douglassfir 2X4 s(37 mm thickness ) it was
flawless + accurate (with fsk)

Jozsef

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Offline PreferrablyWood

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #121 on: November 29, 2015, 04:58 PM »
I have not used it on treated lumber, but on
Douglassfir 2X4 s(37 mm thickness ) it was
flawless + accurate (with fsk)

Jozsef

Treated lumber is pretty hard sometimes. I hate using it myself. I'll be giving my HSK a workout in the next days and report back...
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Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #122 on: November 29, 2015, 08:08 PM »
I find it interesting that the Festool Aust Dealer demo I attended, used 12mm ply rather than solid wood. I have also been left with the impression on viewing some videos that this saw struggles in some solid woods, even at times pine.

I am wondering if the corded version has more 'real use' power?
« Last Edit: November 29, 2015, 10:44 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Offline Nippychippy

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #123 on: November 30, 2015, 02:18 AM »
It's not the precision I am on about that bit is flawless it's the power out put. I will be using it again today on the roof every cut that last day was nearly half way then it would stall and beep then a red light came on  I am not ask a lot of the saw this is what I was designed for

Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #124 on: November 30, 2015, 08:59 AM »
It's not the precision I am on about that bit is flawless it's the power out put. I will be using it again today on the roof every cut that last day was nearly half way then it would stall and beep then a red light came on  I am not ask a lot of the saw this is what I was designed for

I'm not so sure it was designed for cutting thick roofing/framing material, and that is why I went with the corded version of the red brand.  I really like the idea of a small 18V saw, but you have to be realistic about the capabilities.   
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Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #125 on: November 30, 2015, 02:16 PM »
It's not the precision I am on about that bit is flawless it's the power out put. I will be using it again today on the roof every cut that last day was nearly half way then it would stall and beep then a red light came on  I am not ask a lot of the saw this is what I was designed for

I'm not so sure it was designed for cutting thick roofing/framing material, and that is why I went with the corded version of the red brand.  I really like the idea of a small 18V saw, but you have to be realistic about the capabilities.   

Fair comment Brice, however look at the claimed main applications list at -

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564636/SubProducts/564636




Despite recent advances in batt amps/voltage, I agree that a corded saw will still have some advantage regarding power and performance.

@Brice Burrell
« Last Edit: November 30, 2015, 02:25 PM by Untidy Shop »
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Offline Nippychippy

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #126 on: November 30, 2015, 03:03 PM »
It's not the precision I am on about that bit is flawless it's the power out put. I will be using it again today on the roof every cut that last day was nearly half way then it would stall and beep then a red light came on  I am not ask a lot of the saw this is what I was designed for

I'm not so sure it was designed for cutting thick roofing/framing material, and that is why I went with the corded version of the red brand.  I really like the idea of a small 18V saw, but you have to be realistic about the capabilities.   

Fair comment Brice, however look at the claimed main applications list at -

http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564636/SubProducts/564636

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Despite recent advances in batt amps/voltage, I agree that a corded saw will still have some advantage regarding power and performance.

@Brice Burrell

I totally agree I have to be realistic in what I am cutting but it was sold to me as a machine for roof and rough work which is what all the photos are which today I really had to count to ten because it was going to get launched off the roof today it struggled all day it was A pain in the  it has no guts would would think if it was bogging down the electronics would give it a it of a boost to get true the cut and not just beep at me and go that's all I got  [eek]

Offline wrightwoodwork

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #127 on: November 30, 2015, 03:30 PM »
Little question for is the compound cuts the saw struggles on, with the panther blade. I have noticed on my mafell cordless that if I'm doing cross cuts and compounds it actually gets on better with the 32 tooth blade compared to 16 tooth blade. No idea why just the way it seems. I'm wondering if a different blade might help you out. I haven't used the festool so can't comment on if it does or doesn't have enough power. Other than picking it up. My only real thought will have enough power to cut compounds up to 38mm. In fact people with the tsc how does your saws cope with a compound cuts upto 38mm

Offline Jozsef Kozma

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #128 on: November 30, 2015, 08:02 PM »
I would love to try a Maffel
Does anybody in this area southern CT or
Westchester County NY have one
Beer is on me
Jozsef

Offline Nippychippy

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #129 on: December 01, 2015, 02:33 AM »
Little question for is the compound cuts the saw struggles on, with the panther blade. I have noticed on my mafell cordless that if I'm doing cross cuts and compounds it actually gets on better with the 32 tooth blade compared to 16 tooth blade. No idea why just the way it seems. I'm wondering if a different blade might help you out. I haven't used the festool so can't comment on if it does or doesn't have enough power. Other than picking it up. My only real thought will have enough power to cut compounds up to 38mm. In fact people with the tsc how does your saws cope with a compound cuts upto 38mm

Compound cuts useless even with the panter blade it must be a dud I'll speak to festool today

Offline bryan1982

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #130 on: December 01, 2015, 04:33 AM »
Im A cabinetmaker and i install kitchens.

The HKC has made my life so much easier.

i have put a standard TS55 blade 48 tooth in the HKC. I have been cutting melamine and mdf. I had to cut some mdf bulkhead the other day 500mm high i used the 670mm rail cut the mitres it was perpectly square.

i also use the 670mm rail with the stop removed to cut down panels etc. Having the saw conected to the rail is so much easier then my ts55.

The HKC has made my life so much easier
even docking kicks to length is awesome with the 250mm rail. now i dont have to lug the kapex up the stairs every job.

Cheers

Bryan

Offline wrightwoodwork

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #131 on: December 01, 2015, 08:33 AM »
Compound cuts need the extra power. Give festool a call. Doing roofs is what these type saws should shine at. The only other thing is saw sliding along the track as if on ice. I sometimes find when using mine the track gets a sticky residue and if I give the rail a spray with silicone spray it really helps with the cuts as less pressure is put on the saw causing myself to torque my wrist and twist the saw etc leading to pressure on the blade


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Little question for is the compound cuts the saw struggles on, with the panther blade. I have noticed on my mafell cordless that if I'm doing cross cuts and compounds it actually gets on better with the 32 tooth blade compared to 16 tooth blade. No idea why just the way it seems. I'm wondering if a different blade might help you out. I haven't used the festool so can't comment on if it does or doesn't have enough power. Other than picking it up. My only real thought will have enough power to cut compounds up to 38mm. In fact people with the tsc how does your saws cope with a compound cuts upto 38mm

Compound cuts useless even with the panter blade it must be a dud I'll speak to festool today
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Offline DJW

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #132 on: December 01, 2015, 09:18 AM »
When you say the panther do you mean the 12 tooth blade? This is meant for ripping. I use the 18 tooth universal blade and it cuts compounds like butter as long as the blade is sharp and the battery has enough juice. It's also important to use the saw 2 handed on compound cuts otherwise it wants to bog down into the rail.
Hope that helps

Offline VW MICK

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #133 on: December 03, 2015, 03:49 AM »
I'm considering getting one of these saws

Can anybody tell me if the corded hkc saws all work with the same rails as I think a hkc 85 will be handy for the extra depth. Also do they all work on the normal rails too. As it would be handy to break down a couple of sheets with the cordless and a 3m rail

Offline neeleman

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #134 on: December 03, 2015, 03:57 AM »
Yes the HK(C) saws will all work on all the FS/2 and FSK rails.
That's the Festool system, you know!
And BTW the HKC 85 doesn't exist, only the HKC 55.
Have a look at some of the YouTube videos and it will be clear.
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Offline VW MICK

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #135 on: December 03, 2015, 04:15 AM »
Ok thanks @neeleman

I meant the hk85. Obviously the HKC is the cordless

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Offline jmac80

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #136 on: December 08, 2015, 11:18 AM »
Hi @Nippychippy
How did you get on with your HKC?
I got one about a month ago.
Today was my first chance to use in on deeper cuts.
I was notching pressure treated 4x2's that were fairly wet.
I was trenching the 4x2's 48mm deep and had 4 clamped together to save time. So 48mm deep cuts and 8" long in wet pressure treated wood and it did not struggle once..

was knocking up this as a quicky cutting table for sheet goods..

James

Offline Nippychippy

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #137 on: December 08, 2015, 12:56 PM »
Thanks James that is my table setup great minds  [big grin] I filled in the form online and the was to wait for an email which I haven't received yet that was last week so I'll give them a call today spoke to the rep today he said that it sounds unusual because he has not heard of any issues on them. I think I have a dud

Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #138 on: December 11, 2015, 08:02 AM »
I was looking at the hkc but am now thinking I'd go with the 110v corded version when I do eventually get one, I did wonder how the hkc would perform on solid timber
« Last Edit: December 11, 2015, 08:04 AM by Mbconstructionjoinery »
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Offline Kylec57

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #139 on: December 11, 2015, 08:12 AM »


Compound cuts useless even with the panter blade it must be a dud I'll speak to festool today
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Mines is the same its terrible on 8x2s 6x2 just and no more. Expected alot more from it tbh. My brothers makita cheapo struggles less. If you've got a dud then so do i

Offline ifit

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #140 on: December 11, 2015, 12:28 PM »
They are very dependant on a sharp blade, as soon as it dulls a bit it wont cut

Offline MT Carpentry And Joinery

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #141 on: January 26, 2016, 05:59 PM »
I can see me buying this to do hip roofing.. The HKC55 and Cordless Carvex could see me do a roof in possibly half the time (yes, I genuinely think it will be that much quicker)

~WW

Won't cut through the timber fully when doing jack rafters and hips and valleys st 45 degrees between 4-6mm short so annoying that's why they need to bring out a 36v hkc85

Offline feuser

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Re: Hkc 55 Ripping Hardwood Capabilities
« Reply #142 on: February 23, 2017, 10:45 AM »
I am curious about the saw for for ripping marine lumber, i.e. 6/4" Mahogany planks (12 - 18 feet).
1. Can the saw cope with that material for cuts this long
2. Will the riving knife and thin kerf blade bind when used for slightly curved cuts (20-60 foot radii)?
3. If 2 is no problem, how do you estimate the capability of making curved cuts along a batten instead nailed onto the stock instead of the straight guide rail?

Offline PreferrablyWood

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #143 on: February 26, 2017, 10:39 AM »
@feuser For long slow curves like you mention, I think the only way you could know is by buying one and trying it out. Maybe you could take it in a couple of passes?
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Offline Getmaverick

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #144 on: March 02, 2017, 08:08 PM »
I found out today that it will cut through Hardie board like butter! Seems one of my employees thought it would be okay. I was literally punching him in the face through my phone!

Offline overanalyze

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #145 on: March 02, 2017, 08:18 PM »
They make Hardie blades for it..whats the big deal?

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Offline JD2720

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #146 on: March 02, 2017, 08:36 PM »
They make Hardie blades for it..whats the big deal?

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Because the abrasive dust is not good for power tools.

Offline Getmaverick

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #147 on: March 02, 2017, 08:41 PM »
I thought it would void the warranty. Also he just used the blade that came with the saw. Pretty dull now I'm sure. Besides I have a dedicated saw with a Hardie blade on it.

Offline overanalyze

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #148 on: March 02, 2017, 09:19 PM »
Gotcha...I thought he used it with the correct blade. The dust in the tool wouldn't bother me. Tools are meant to be used. Seems like, with the correct blade, the HKC would be awesome for cutting Hardie...especially up on scaffold.

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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #149 on: March 02, 2017, 10:40 PM »
They make Hardie blades for it..whats the big deal?

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Because the abrasive dust is not good for power tools.

Fiber cement products are one of the approved materials to use the TS saws on, as listed in the owners manual.

See pages 10 an 12;

https://www.festoolusa.com/media/pdf/703959_002_TS%2055%20REQ_USA.pdf

Between the dust extraction and the arbor seal I have had no issues with dust "in" the TS saws. I do recommend wiping the base plate and track when you're done cutting FC products.

The TS saws make working with FC and plaster a much more pleasant experience.

I cannot find the HK manual online, someone who owns an HK please check if FC and plaster are listed as approved materials to cut with the HK.

Tom
« Last Edit: March 02, 2017, 10:45 PM by tjbnwi »