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Offline Nippychippy

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Hkc 55
« on: June 02, 2015, 12:02 PM »
Well today was interesting out of the blue my Festool rep rings me to tell me he got his demo hkc55 and would I like a shot  [tongue] so I dropped everything I was doing to get a shot and I wish I didn't because I have just seen the FUTURE and I am going to have to get it now. It's a skil saw and a guide saw. Free hand is amazing it has a lever close to the handle to bring up the blade guard instead of haven  to reach over with your other hand to move it. And on the track it will save so much time it has positive locks for angles with will be great for laminated flooring and roofing. This is going to be Festool best seller everyone needs a try of one   [big grin]

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Offline Nippychippy

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2015, 12:05 PM »
Some photos

Offline ali

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2015, 12:15 PM »
What length guide rails do you think are most useful?

I really like the ability to do short cross cuts on it

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2015, 12:33 PM »
I think 250,400,700 and it fits on the standard track also

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2015, 12:35 PM »
I would probably get the 400 and 700. The 400 for  first fix and 700 for chipboard flooring

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2015, 12:47 PM »
I can see me buying this to do hip roofing.. The HKC55 and Cordless Carvex could see me do a roof in possibly half the time (yes, I genuinely think it will be that much quicker)

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2015, 01:23 PM »
The whole system is the most universal saw system thier is as far as I'm concerned. I've being using the mafell system for over 3 years now and to me it is the one saw I wouldnt give up for anything.  Being able to lift the saw guard sound a nice feature on the festool version. I would strongly recommend people to try the system and people who already invested well in the festool system of rails then the festool hkc is a well worth investment. The 400 rail is ideal for first fix and you will find that if you have the adjustable stop set at 60 degrees then 400 track is needed for the cut length on timbers 200mm wide. I also have the 770 track for the mafell and use for chipboard flooring all the time, so to get the 700 track for the festool especially when doing chipboard flooring. For doing roofs it is a great system.

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2015, 02:07 PM »
What's up with that rail?
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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2015, 02:21 PM »
I can see me buying this to do hip roofing.. The HKC55 and Cordless Carvex could see me do a roof in possibly half the time (yes, I genuinely think it will be that much quicker)

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That's what was think to and no cables getting snagged

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2015, 02:24 PM »
What's up with that rail?

Basically the saw slides into the track and hooks onto it so it attached to it. It's got two stops underneath the one on the right is fixed and acts as a pivot point the left one is the one you adjust for the angles

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2015, 02:28 PM »
And when you are done with a a cut, the saw will use friction to bring it tomorrow the back of the rail. It is very slick. I saw the promo video a month or so back.

Can't wait for this to make its way into the U.S!

Jealous Nippy. Glad you got to test it.

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2015, 02:51 PM »
Cheers man I was chuffed to get a shot I should of made a vid I was to excited hopefully the U.S. And Canada get it soon as well. I don't see how it be an issue

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2015, 03:07 PM »
As Wrightwoodwork states, these types of saws are revolutionary. Mafell has been selling them for years in NA and there are several other FOG members that own and operate them. It looks like the Festool version has some improvements, but is battery only. I think this would be great if they offered a Plug-it version too. Extremely versatile tool, though.

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2015, 03:23 PM »
As Wrightwoodwork states, these types of saws are revolutionary. Mafell has been selling them for years in NA and there are several other FOG members that own and operate them. It looks like the Festool version has some improvements, but is battery only. I think this would be great if they offered a Plug-it version too. Extremely versatile tool, though.

I just bought the Mafell corded (mains) version and I'm pretty excited with the possibilities of this type of tool.  If this catches on I'm sure there will be a corded version (I just didn't want to wait the 5 years it would take to make it N. America [tongue]). 
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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2015, 03:26 PM »
What's up with that rail?

Check out this video neeleman found last week.  It's in German but you'll get the idea.
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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2015, 03:31 PM »
I watched a couple videos of the Mafell KSS300/KSS400, but it was this one in particular: where I said "wow, I want one, that is absolutely amazing".  I would have to assume Festool's version can do everything Mafell's can, given they've had the opportunity to copy and learn on what to improve.





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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2015, 03:32 PM »
Festool TV also published 3 videos today about the new HKC: No 54+55+56.




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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2015, 03:40 PM »
It is nice to incorporate some of the accessories Festool already has available into this saw. And, it adjusts for rail slop on the rail, which is nice. I think that this is a winner and hopefully it will be brought to NA at some point.

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2015, 08:58 PM »
If i cant get this i am buying the mafell.

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2015, 09:08 PM »
If i cant get this i am buying the mafell.

I have a feeling you may get one of these.  Still, I think a corded version would serve you much better.  I can't see a corded version in the near future in Europe, and who know how long it would take to make its way to the States if Festool decided to make it...   
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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2015, 10:02 PM »
If i cant get this i am buying the mafell.

I have a feeling you may get one of these.  Still, I think a corded version would serve you much better.  I can't see a corded version in the near future in Europe, and who know how long it would take to make its way to the States if Festool decided to make it...

If power and run time is good, cordless should be fine, but there is something to be said about an actual corded tool as well.

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Hkc 55
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2015, 10:13 PM »
I was thinking of "importing" this puppy for a good pal who love my festool stuff but can't afford it.

I think the track might be the more difficult part.

Plus I want to use it when I need that type of tool!!

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2015, 10:20 PM »
If power and run time is good, cordless should be fine, but there is something to be said about an actual corded tool as well.

The issue I see is that it is one 18v battery.  Imagine cutting 2xs for framing, how long is that battery going to last?
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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2015, 12:49 AM »
Mafell has a cordless KSS400 and Wrightwoodwork has one - it has good run time, but is 36v. I have Mafell's bigger KSS80 and it is one awesome saw...can almost cut 4x material - just 1/32nd shy.

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2015, 12:58 AM »
The issue I see is that it is one 18v battery.  Imagine cutting 2xs for framing, how long is that battery going to last?

the catalog says it takes 2 batteries at the same time so that you can use it at 18 or 36 v
and those are the same batteries as the new 18v drills

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2015, 01:34 AM »
This only uses  one battery at a time  what they have done with this saw is they have made the kerf on the blade smaller not sure of size but it's all down to battery life

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2015, 02:18 AM »
This only uses  one battery at a time  what they have done with this saw is they have made the kerf on the blade smaller not sure of size but it's all down to battery life

Cordless saws should always have a smaller kerf blade for this reason anyways, not just the Festool.

Have used the Hilti cordless circular saw to cut roofing before, I had 3 batteries on the go and never had to wait for at least one to be fully charged. Cordless saws these days are more than capable of cutting 2x? material.

Bonus of the Festool is that it works on a guide rail, so the accuracy would be just as good as a corded saw in theory.

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2015, 05:18 AM »
Since getting my cordless saw I have hardly touched the corded version of my saw. Depending on what I'm doing I can almost get a full day out of the one battery. The narrow kerf blades make a huge difference. I think does right in making it cordless as I know that in the uk thier can be a lack of power on sites also if up on a roof a trailing cable can be a hazard. My only reservation about it is only being 18v for the likes of rip cuts and compound cuts. Then the extra oomph of a 36v batteries might be desired. For cross cuts I can't see an issue with only being 18v. Last year on site their was a boy who had got a new ts55 and when I bought out the kss400 and was wondering how he could get it to work on cross cut track

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Re: Hkc 55
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2015, 01:49 PM »
I can see me buying this to do hip roofing.. The HKC55 and Cordless Carvex could see me do a roof in possibly half the time (yes, I genuinely think it will be that much quicker)

~WW

I'm not so sure, Its max depth of cut is 55 mm at full depth and 38mm at 50 degrees. Lot of the cuts on a hipped roof are on timbers that are about 45-50mm or thereabouts so it might not manage it that well.

Better for valley boards, fascias and soffits but not that much better than a normal cordless saw used in conjunction with a adjustable quick square to guide the base of the saw.
darn expensive if you drop it.

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