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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2013, 07:12 PM »
How well do you think these would work for sanding small drywall sections? Do you think the Mirka abranet paper and vacuum would minimize dust and clogging?
I think Granat and Brilliant 2 work well for this application . Abranet may get some clogging, but with the coarse to medium grits, it's not as likely as using their 320 and higher grits.
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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2013, 08:47 PM »
How well do you think these would work for sanding small drywall sections? Do you think the Mirka abranet paper and vacuum would minimize dust and clogging?
I think Granat and Brilliant 2 work well for this application . Abranet may get some clogging, but with the coarse to medium grits, it's not as likely as using their 320 and higher grits.

Interested in this combination, I only deal with plaster when I need to patch a hole from an install or fix a dent but the drywall dust drives my crazy.

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2013, 12:45 AM »
How well do you think these would work for sanding small drywall sections? Do you think the Mirka abranet paper and vacuum would minimize dust and clogging?
I think Granat and Brilliant 2 work well for this application . Abranet may get some clogging, but with the coarse to medium grits, it's not as likely as using their 320 and higher grits.

Interested in this combination, I only deal with plaster when I need to patch a hole from an install or fix a dent but the drywall dust drives my crazy.

It should collect the dust quite well. As far as the abrasives go I have  never used any of them on drywall.


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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2013, 08:12 AM »
How well do you think these would work for sanding small drywall sections? Do you think the Mirka abranet paper and vacuum would minimize dust and clogging?
I think Granat and Brilliant 2 work well for this application . Abranet may get some clogging, but with the coarse to medium grits, it's not as likely as using their 320 and higher grits.

Interested in this combination, I only deal with plaster when I need to patch a hole from an install or fix a dent but the drywall dust drives my crazy.


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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2013, 09:54 AM »
How well do you think these would work for sanding small drywall sections? Do you think the Mirka abranet paper and vacuum would minimize dust and clogging?
I think Granat and Brilliant 2 work well for this application . Abranet may get some clogging, but with the coarse to medium grits, it's not as likely as using their 320 and higher grits.

Interested in this combination, I only deal with plaster when I need to patch a hole from an install or fix a dent but the drywall dust drives my crazy.

It should collect the dust quite well. As far as the abrasives go I have  never used any of them on drywall.


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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2013, 11:01 AM »
How well do you think these would work for sanding small drywall sections? Do you think the Mirka abranet paper and vacuum would minimize dust and clogging?
I think Granat and Brilliant 2 work well for this application . Abranet may get some clogging, but with the coarse to medium grits, it's not as likely as using their 320 and higher grits.

Interested in this combination, I only deal with plaster when I need to patch a hole from an install or fix a dent but the drywall dust drives my crazy.

It should collect the dust quite well. As far as the abrasives go I have  never used any of them on drywall.


Seth
OK, have to ask with THAT reply. Do you get to avoid drywall as a whole, or do something different than sanding? [blink]

Basically no drywall.  The couple of patches I have done for myself were pre- Festool and I just  sponged them smooth. Other than that I did a bunch of drywall in my parents house 25+ years ago.



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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2013, 01:23 PM »
How well do you think these would work for sanding small drywall sections? Do you think the Mirka abranet paper and vacuum would minimize dust and clogging?
I think Granat and Brilliant 2 work well for this application . Abranet may get some clogging, but with the coarse to medium grits, it's not as likely as using their 320 and higher grits.

Interested in this combination, I only deal with plaster when I need to patch a hole from an install or fix a dent but the drywall dust drives my crazy.

It should collect the dust quite well. As far as the abrasives go I have  never used any of them on drywall.


Seth
OK, have to ask with THAT reply. Do you get to avoid drywall as a whole, or do something different than sanding? [blink]

Basically no drywall.  The couple of patches I have done for myself were pre- Festool and I just  sponged them smooth. Other than that I did a bunch of drywall in my parents house 25+ years ago.



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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2013, 11:34 PM »
How well do you think these would work for sanding small drywall sections? Do you think the Mirka abranet paper and vacuum would minimize dust and clogging?
I think Granat and Brilliant 2 work well for this application . Abranet may get some clogging, but with the coarse to medium grits, it's not as likely as using their 320 and higher grits.

Interested in this combination, I only deal with plaster when I need to patch a hole from an install or fix a dent but the drywall dust drives my crazy.

It should collect the dust quite well. As far as the abrasives go I have  never used any of them on drywall.


Seth
OK, have to ask with THAT reply. Do you get to avoid drywall as a whole, or do something different than sanding? [blink]

Basically no drywall.  The couple of patches I have done for myself were pre- Festool and I just  sponged them smooth. Other than that I did a bunch of drywall in my parents house 25+ years ago.



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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2013, 07:49 PM »
How well do you think these would work for sanding small drywall sections? Do you think the Mirka abranet paper and vacuum would minimize dust and clogging?
I think Granat and Brilliant 2 work well for this application . Abranet may get some clogging, but with the coarse to medium grits, it's not as likely as using their 320 and higher grits.

Interested in this combination, I only deal with plaster when I need to patch a hole from an install or fix a dent but the drywall dust drives my crazy.

Ooh!  I can answer this one (albeit a bit late).  It works great!  I used 220 Granat.  Turn the vac down all the way, and open up the air port all way and have at it!

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2014, 02:41 PM »
Great review! Would all the LS130 equipment fit, like the one for corners?

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2014, 04:43 PM »
Great review! Would all the LS130 equipment fit, like the one for corners?

Hi, Welcome to the forum!  [smile]

None of the LS130 profiles, or attachments fit. It just uses the same size abrasive sheets and the interface pads also work. That would be nice if they did fit though.

Seth

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2014, 04:57 PM »
Hi Seth

I wish that kit like this was easier to find on the various Festool web sites. It is almost as though you need to know a bit about a product in order to be able to find it. Try going to the sanding section of any Festool web site and see if you can spot these items - they are not there.

I have been using the Mirka/Abranet equivalent and now want to try this.

Many thanks for doing so many test on the hoses - I think that it was a good part of the system to focus on as I have damaged small hoses like this from other manufacturers which then ruins the investment.

Peter

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2014, 08:29 PM »
I bought this for drywall.  I found that if I sand in a circular motion I can get a really nice finish.  I use the 150/5 on the first coat, and this on the subsequent coats.

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2014, 08:41 PM »
Regarding the 21.5mm hose, is there a tool end that will fit on so that it can be used with the Festool powered sanders? I've been thinking for awhile that I would like the increased flexibility this hose offers when I am sanding staircases and handrails with my rotexes/ets's/LS
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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2014, 09:14 PM »
Regarding the 21.5mm hose, is there a tool end that will fit on so that it can be used with the Festool powered sanders? I've been thinking for awhile that I would like the increased flexibility this hose offers when I am sanding staircases and handrails with my rotexes/ets's/LS

No regular tool end for the gray 21.5. But maybe you could cobble one together. However it would not be anti-static.

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2014, 09:18 PM »
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diameter of hose connector?
« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2014, 05:58 PM »
Seth, could you measure the diameter of the connector (the plug that goes into the dust extractor) for the 21.5mm hose?

I have a Protool VC171 dust extractor (discontinued), and I think it has the same size dust port als the Festools, but better to be sure before ordering  ;)
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Re: diameter of hose connector?
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2014, 07:08 PM »
I have a Protool VC171 dust extractor (discontinued), and I think it has the same size dust port als the Festools, but better to be sure before ordering  ;)

They are the same diameter. Protool and Festool hoses are exactly the same.

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2014, 08:18 AM »
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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2014, 07:50 AM »
Good review Seth. My son and I have been using the Mirka version of the sanding pad for 2 years now. The son has done a lot of drywall with the block and found it to remove the dust very effectively. I have 2 with different grits that I use all the time in the shop. You would be surprised how well the hoses hold up over time. The vacuum adjustment valve on the Festool block is a nice touch. Might have to buy another block to get the valve.

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I have had my Mirka block sander for about a year and it has a valve on it near the hose attachment point. Mine may be different model, but you may want to check. Brent

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #50 on: September 20, 2014, 03:31 PM »
Good review Seth. My son and I have been using the Mirka version of the sanding pad for 2 years now. The son has done a lot of drywall with the block and found it to remove the dust very effectively. I have 2 with different grits that I use all the time in the shop. You would be surprised how well the hoses hold up over time. The vacuum adjustment valve on the Festool block is a nice touch. Might have to buy another block to get the valve.

John
I have had my Mirka block sander for about a year and it has a valve on it near the hose attachment point. Mine may be different model, but you may want to check. Brent

My Mirka block has it too, a rotating sleeve on the back of the block opens or closes a port.

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2014, 07:20 AM »
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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #52 on: September 22, 2014, 04:13 PM »
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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #53 on: September 22, 2014, 07:32 PM »
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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #54 on: September 22, 2014, 08:06 PM »
Good review Seth. My son and I have been using the Mirka version of the sanding pad for 2 years now. The son has done a lot of drywall with the block and found it to remove the dust very effectively. I have 2 with different grits that I use all the time in the shop. You would be surprised how well the hoses hold up over time. The vacuum adjustment valve on the Festool block is a nice touch. Might have to buy another block to get the valve.

John
I have had my Mirka block sander for about a year and it has a valve on it near the hose attachment point. Mine may be different model, but you may want to check. Brent

My Mirka block has it too, a rotating sleeve on the back of the block opens or closes a port.

Thanx guys my latest Mirka has the rotating sleeve, I have 3 now, the original sander was given to by a Mirka rep, along with hose and a roll of paper. Totally impressed me. Can't beat the price either. Sorry Festool.

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #55 on: September 22, 2014, 08:24 PM »
I like the Mirka much better than the HSK, mostly because the hose is so small and manageable. I will say that I would prefer the Festool if they had a small hose because I have a lot of that paper on hand.

AAAbrasives.com has Abranet for prices comparable to the Festool abrasives.

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #56 on: September 22, 2014, 10:05 PM »
I like the Mirka much better than the HSK, mostly because the hose is so small and manageable. I will say that I would prefer the Festool if they had a small hose because I have a lot of that paper on hand.

AAAbrasives.com has Abranet for prices comparable to the Festool abrasives.


Which Festool hoses are you using for comparison? There are two that are specifically recommended for the hand sanders...

The most popular by far, in my experience, is a 21.5mm x 5m hose that is pretty flexible and friendly. It is non-antistatic but I don't think that's a big issue for most climates with hand sanding.

The other option offered by Festool is a 22mm x 3.5m antistatic hose. It will be significantly stiffer but depending on your climate, you may like the antistatic properties enough to prefer it. These antistatic hoses are currently limited edition items because they were discontinued in North America...


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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2014, 01:14 AM »
I like the Mirka much better than the HSK, mostly because the hose is so small and manageable. I will say that I would prefer the Festool if they had a small hose because I have a lot of that paper on hand.

AAAbrasives.com has Abranet for prices comparable to the Festool abrasives.


Which Festool hoses are you using for comparison? There are two that are specifically recommended for the hand sanders...

The most popular by far in my experience is a 21.5mm x 5m hose that is pretty flexible and friendly. It is non-antistatic but I don't think that's a big issue for most climates with hand sanding.

The other option offered by Festool is a 22mm x 3.5m antistatic hose. It will be significantly stiffer but depending on your climate, you may like the antistatic properties enough to prefer it. These antistatic hoses are currently limited edition items because they were discontinued in North America...


Kind regards,

Tom


That is the gray one in the review. It is extremely light weight.  And very flexible as can be seen in the pictures.

Seth

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2014, 04:56 PM »
I like the Mirka much better than the HSK, mostly because the hose is so small and manageable. I will say that I would prefer the Festool if they had a small hose because I have a lot of that paper on hand.

AAAbrasives.com has Abranet for prices comparable to the Festool abrasives.


Which Festool hoses are you using for comparison? There are two that are specifically recommended for the hand sanders...

The most popular by far, in my experience, is a 21.5mm x 5m hose that is pretty flexible and friendly. It is non-antistatic but I don't think that's a big issue for most climates with hand sanding.

The other option offered by Festool is a 22mm x 3.5m antistatic hose. It will be significantly stiffer but depending on your climate, you may like the antistatic properties enough to prefer it. These antistatic hoses are currently limited edition items because they were discontinued in North America...


Kind regards,

Tom

Hi Tom,

The Mirka hose is 3/4" vs. 27mm for the Festool.

If Festool offered a comparable hose or a whip I'd buy it.

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2014, 06:43 PM »
I like the Mirka much better than the HSK, mostly because the hose is so small and manageable. I will say that I would prefer the Festool if they had a small hose because I have a lot of that paper on hand.

AAAbrasives.com has Abranet for prices comparable to the Festool abrasives.


Which Festool hoses are you using for comparison? There are two that are specifically recommended for the hand sanders...

The most popular by far, in my experience, is a 21.5mm x 5m hose that is pretty flexible and friendly. It is non-antistatic but I don't think that's a big issue for most climates with hand sanding.

The other option offered by Festool is a 22mm x 3.5m antistatic hose. It will be significantly stiffer but depending on your climate, you may like the antistatic properties enough to prefer it. These antistatic hoses are currently limited edition items because they were discontinued in North America...


Kind regards,

Tom

Hi Tom,

The Mirka hose is 3/4" vs. 27mm for the Festool.

If Festool offered a comparable hose or a whip I'd buy it.

Polarsea- Festool makes a 21.5mm hose for hand sanding.  Here ya go: http://www.festoolproducts.com/Festool-495019-Hose-HSK-D21-5-5m-p/495019.htm
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