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« on: August 03, 2012, 05:55 PM »

Them Festool Ninja's are pretty stealthy, because I never saw this one coming until I tripped over the box. I don't normally mention any tools that I get from Festool, but since this one was a surprise package, I figure it's OK to say, even though it is still 2 months away from release date.

I had no idea what was in the box, but when I felt how heavy it was, I figured maybe I should stop and look at the label. (yes, I'm an idiot)  Blink Ooooh, it was an MFH 1000. Cool!

I glanced at a picture of one of these on the FOG last week, but I had no idea how tough it was from the picture. I had assumed it was like a large Systainer on wheels, but it is not. It's all steel and as durable, if not more so, than a Sysport, and the casters appear to be even larger.

It took less than 2 minutes to install the casters, and because they are larger, it was even easier than installing the Sysport's casters. I bolted the seat-deck down, and it was ready to go. With the large casters and thick rubber wheels, it sure rolls smoothly over the rough garage floor, and even over debris without skidding.

The pullout drawer uses very high quality full-extension slides that are even better quality than the Sysport slides. I haven't done a cross-reference yet, but at first glance I would guess that they are either 100 or even 150 pound capacity, with very smooth ball-movement.

There is a Styrofoam seat insert that can be removed so you could also use the bench to tote systainers around, or to install a WCR 1000 (which I don't own).

I'm still undecided whether I want to keep it in the garage as a mechanic's seat, or bring it down to the shop as a woodworker's seat. With all the work I do on dirtbikes and cars, the garage seems like the place to keep it. It would be super handy for doing automotive brakes. I like the idea of being able to have all of my tools and parts tucked under the seat or in the drawer while I work. As I would move from wheel to wheel, I wouldn't have to stop and pick up all the tools and move them to the other side of the car.

As a woodworker's seat, it would be stunning for sanding cabinet faceframes. That's a back-breaking task because I was constantly stooped over, and then constantly having to stand up (in pain) to get a tool I left elsewhere. All of my regular tools for prep-work could be permanently kept in the drawer, and extra things, such as hinges and handles, could lay on the shelf for quick access.



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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 06:24 PM »

Wow, awesome rundown Rick.  Really appreciated.  Very practical and comprehensive.  Looking forward to getting ours.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2012, 06:33 PM »

Rick do you have rough dimensions on the drawer please.
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2012, 06:36 PM »

Very nice.  Since I'm physically unable to "stoop" I find myself more & more wanting to sit while working.  

What is the overall height of the stool?  I may have to take one off of ToolNut's inventory...  Smile
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2012, 06:40 PM »

i wonder could you colour in the festool logo to make it stand out better without running from the heat and sweat and leaving a logo imorinted into your white trousers.

iv looked at this several times but cant seam to justify that kind of money for a seat. am i missing something
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2012, 06:47 PM »

i wonder could you colour in the festool logo to make it stand out better without running from the heat and sweat and leaving a logo imorinted into your white trousers.

iv looked at this several times but cant seam to justify that kind of money for a seat. am i missing something

Maybe the flip side of the cushion is blank?  Is it durable enough to stand on? (Casters locked of course.   Scared)
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2012, 06:54 PM »

Rick do you have rough dimensions on the drawer please.

The interior dimensions of the drawer at the bottom of the drawer (i.e. if you were going to cut a drawer liner to fit) are 14-1/2" x 20-1/2" And the drawer can accommodate objects 6-1/2" tall.

The finger grip does protrude into the top of the drawer area, so up there at the very top, the drawer is 13-3/4" deep.

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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2012, 06:56 PM »

Very nice.  Since I'm physically unable to "stoop" I find myself more & more wanting to sit while working.  

What is the overall height of the stool?  I may have to take one off of ToolNut's inventory...  Smile

Ron, the approximate height from floor to top of the seat insert is 20-1/2". I forgot to measure, but from the floor to the top of the seat-deck (no pad) should be about 20".
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2012, 07:00 PM »

A small file cabinet with a plastic shell......$350.00?
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2012, 07:00 PM »


Maybe the flip side of the cushion is blank?  Is it durable enough to stand on?

The back side of the cushion is webbed, but rests directly on the seat-deck. The seat-deck sits directly on the steel cabinet (flat steel substrate with 6 or 8 threaded inserts). So yes, you could stand on the seat without breaking either the seat, the deck, or the underlying cabinet substrate.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2012, 07:06 PM »

i wonder could you colour in the festool logo to make it stand out better without running from the heat and sweat and leaving a logo imorinted into your white trousers.

iv looked at this several times but cant seam to justify that kind of money for a seat. am i missing something


I have several colors of these Testors Brand paint pens that I use to colorize tool cutaway-models. They handle like a marker but contain standard Testors model paint (enamel paint I believe).

If you wanted to colorize the logo, I would put down a white base-coat, and then after it is dry, put down a green color-coat.

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2012, 07:26 PM »

A small file cabinet with a plastic shell......$350.00?

You must have King Kong playing with your office furniture, because my filing cabinet is only 22-gauge (0.030") sheet metal.  Scared

The MFH-1000 is made from 14-gauge (0.075") powder-coated steel. My MGS-20 guides are also made from 14-gauge steel.

I'm not an autobody mechanic, but I believe that the Unibody floor of your car is only 18-gauge (0.048") steel.  Eek!

You're probably not going to get very good gas-mileage with your MFH-1000 on the highway, but it will probably survive a crash better than your car will.  Tongue Out
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2012, 07:31 PM »

Once I built a prototype of a chair for my wife and got a choice comment that I can't resist using here.

Festool, "Just how big do you think my butt is?"

All kidding aside, it looks great.  I thinking of using it with my mft(s).  That drawer would be a great place to store clamping elements, dogs, stops, etc.  Maybe an assortment of sandpaper, too.

The price is steep for something so simple, but I thought the same about the WCR and now I can't imagine doing without it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2012, 07:44 PM »

Oh by the way, those vertical rubber corners are NOT part of the solid-metal-corner construction. They are simply add-on rubber bumpers to protect your work or the bench from damage. The steel corners underneath are formed with a 45-degree corner-bend where these bumpers get attached.

Edit: Oh! I didn't even notice it in real-life until I was looking at my own photograph, but the entire seat-deck is also rimmed with this rubber bumper material. I just went out to the garage to confirm this.

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2012, 08:10 PM »

A small file cabinet with a plastic shell......$350.00?

Check out Lista cabinets.  Makes this thing look cheap.  

Its probably cheaper* than a similar Snap-on item.  

Is this marketed at the auto industry in Europe?  

Would be nifty if you were installing a lot of door knobs in a hotel hallway.    

*cheaper as in price, not quality
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2012, 10:09 PM »

A small file cabinet with a plastic shell......$350.00?

Check out Lista cabinets.  Makes this thing look cheap.  

Its probably cheaper* than a similar Snap-on item.  

Is this marketed at the auto industry in Europe?  

Would be nifty if you were installing a lot of door knobs in a hotel hallway.    

*cheaper as in price, not quality

Back in the day, I bought dozens of Vidmar and Lista cabinets for tool cribs, machine shops and assembly areas.  I don't recall what gauge metal they were but I remember each drawer in a 15 drawer cabinet held 400lbs. -- perhaps a slight overkill for woodworking shops.   Smile  Even loaded the drawers would glide smooth as silk.
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2012, 10:50 PM »

I was checking out the one of the euro festool sites the UK , I think.

It had a photo of this with the workcenter attached. I thought that was a great idea. It would make my CT more manuverable and yet I would have a moble storage system for my tools.

Rick,

Have you tried to attach your work center to it yet?

 Looks like a pretty slick set up to me.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2012, 11:16 PM »


Rick,

Have you tried to attach your work center to it yet?

 Looks like a pretty slick set up to me.

I do not have the work center, but the MFH comes with the extra long screws for securing the work center to it. A couple of the screws that normally secure the seat-deck are replaced with some longer ones, and the work center secures right to the existing top.
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2012, 12:45 AM »

The drawer seems like the perfect place to store the parallel guides and other accessories.  Very cool!  Having this and the Work Center seems like a great organization solution.  Can you fit any Systainers on the top if you take the seat part off? 

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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2012, 05:13 PM »

It also has pegboard ends which will accept work center wire tool racks.   Big Grin
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